Fleetwood mac WILL record new album says stevie

[stevienicksfan1]

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Stevie was interviewed this week with mick and has confirmed that they will record a new album and have plenty of songs

Yayyyyyyyy

[Andyleo]

This is the best news I've heard about this new album, so looks like the five fireflies will certainly be on it! WooHoo!!:]:blob2::laugh::D

[MikeVielhaber]

2003 was before this person was born?

[WayOfTheDragon]

"Stevie told me that Fleetwood Mac’s long world tour is finally over. Now they will undertake a new album. Not just the four songs they released for download in 2014. “A whole album, we have plenty of songs,” she advised. This will be most welcome."

[MusicInferno]

GREAT news!!! :)

2003 was before this person was born?

That confused me, too! :D

[FuzzyPlum]

Yesssssss.
The next question would be...when???

This was a really confusing article. At first I thought the writer had mixed Mick up with Sting. Then I thought maybe it was written by Sting. After reading it a couple of times I'm still none the wiser, though I assume Sting was at the premiere with Mick and Stevie. I'm surprised Sting and Mick never seem to have crossed paths before.

Does this suggest the EP songs will be part of the new album?
Screams 'double album'.

[louielouie2000]

I'll be damned; Hell has frozen over! I *REALLY* didn't think Stevie would want anything to do with FM for a minimum of 3-4 years after this tour was over. I thought for sure sometime after the first of the year that Stevie would announce all of the reasons she would be doing something else. Yet 2 weeks after the tour has wrapped, she's saying the album is a go! What a wonderful Christmas present! :shocked:

[KenshiMaster16]

I'll be damned; Hell has frozen over! I *REALLY* didn't think Stevie would want anything to do with FM for a minimum of 3-4 years after this tour was over. I thought for sure sometime after the first of the year that Stevie would announce all of the reasons she would be doing something else. Yet 2 weeks after the tour has wrapped, she's saying the album is a go! What a wonderful Christmas present! :shocked:

Bet it has more to do with Christine than anything. If anyone could get through to Stevie, it's her. Or perhaps, even though tiring, she really did have a blast being with the other 4 on tour.

[jbrownsjr]

Bet it has more to do with Christine than anything. If anyone could get through to Stevie, it's her. Or perhaps, even though tiring, she really did have a blast being with the other 4 on tour.

I share the same thoughts. She is the one person that can talk her into doing it.

[jbrownsjr]

I hope Stevie writes new material!! No more old demos... save that for Dave...

[Nick]

So happy to read this and hope the album is out in 2016.

[olive]

Stevie told me that Fleetwood Mac’s long world tour is finally over. Now they will undertake a new album. Not just the four songs they released for download in 2014. “A whole album, we have plenty of songs,” she advised. This will be most welcome. Their last album came out in 2003, before I was born.


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I saw it has been Posted feel free to delete

[vivfox]

2003 was before this person was born?


That confused me, too! :D



This was a really confusing article.


Their last album came out in 2003, before I was born. (Screams HOAX to me)

[olive]

i posted this in the Stevie forum just remove it

[jbrownsjr]

Their last album came out in 2003, before I was born. (Screams HOAX to me)

Very sketchy, indeed!

[louielouie2000]

Their last album came out in 2003, before I was born. (Screams HOAX to me)

Very sketchy, indeed!

I agree... this was my initial reaction as well. However, the website seems legit enough, and the picture of Stevie backstage with Sting seems to reinforce that the author was indeed backstage talking to her. Getty Images has multiple pictures of the two together from last night. I guess we will just have to see if other, more trusted news outlets pick up the new album story.

[cheappd]

2003 was before this person was born?

He's making a joke, he just meant their last album of new material came out a long time ago. If you read the whole article, it's written very informally, as a gossip columnist would write.

Glad to hear a new album is on the way!

[jbrownsjr]

He's making a joke, he just meant their last album of new material came out a long time ago. If you read the whole article, it's written very informally, as a gossip columnist would write.

Glad to hear a new album is on the way!

Thanks for clearing that up. I did get the hint that it was a joke. It wasn't completely clear. Certainly want this to be true! :p

[vivfox]

I retract my hoax statement. Now that I have seen the pics of Stevie posting with the little kids from the cast of School of Rock, I realized this interview is real.

[vivfox]

I retract my hoax statement. Now that I have seen the pics of Stevie posting with the little kids from the cast of School of Rock, I realized this interview is real.


Oy, I just reread the article and learned the writer is not a kid. But I hope this is all true. I want it to be true.

[Fannymac]

I'd like to see a standard version and a deluxe version, the deluxe including the EP songs redone with Christine.

[MusicInferno]

Oh so this was really written by a kid from the cast, then it makes sense! :nod:

[stevienicksfan1]

Just to clear things up the columnist is being sarcastic and most definently making a joke at his own age and also the fact that its been so long since their last album

This article is certainly not a hoax

[michelej1]

This article is certainly not a hoax


Well, thanks for telling us about it.


http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/12/07/stevie-nicks-fleetwood-mac-will-record-new-album-group-has-plenty-of-songs

Stevie Nicks: Fleetwood Mac Will Record New Album, Group Has “Plenty” of
by Roger Friedman - December 7, 2015 1:19 am, Showbiz 411

So: Stevie Nicks and Mick Fleetwood were at the Broadway premiere of “School of Rock” Sunday night. Why? In the movie, Stevie’s “Edge of Seventeen” is cited and sung. In the musical, too. Big discussion of Stevie and Fleetwood Mac in the show, which got a lot of laughs from people in the audience who knew they were in attendance.

Backstage, Stevie told me the first time she knew “Edge of Seventeen” was in the movie, she was at home by herself with Sulamith, her hairless Chinese Crested, and watching TV. “I couldn’t believe it,” she said, “and I had no one to share it with but her.”

Stevie told me that Fleetwood Mac’s long world tour is finally over. Now they will undertake a new album. Not just the four songs they released for download in 2014. “A whole album, we have plenty of songs,” she advised. This will be most welcome. Their last album came out in 2003, before I was born.

I also met the great Mick Fleetwood for the first time ever. He is very tall and extremely nice, with long gray hair tied into a pony tail and a matching beard. We talked about the pre-Lindsay Buckingham-Stevie Nicks pairing coming to the Mac in 1977 for the self titled album that launched a mega career for the group (and went on Rumours, Tusk, and everything since then). Do you go back as far as [original member] Peter Green, Mick asked? I do, I told him, and we talked about “Bare Trees,” “Heroes are Hard to Find,” and “Hypnotized.” Mick was surprised that I knew Peter Green wrote Santana’s hit “Black Magic Woman.”

Sting, who’d really never met Fleetwood, said he went back to the Mac 1968 hit “Man of the World.” Fleetwood was impressed. I think he was impressed we knew that Fleetwood Mac started out a blues band.

Also PS I did ask Stevie why the original “Buckingham Nicks” album has never been on CD. It remains one of the few oddities of the rock era still only on vinyl somewhere (like my record bin). Mick chimed in “It got them the gig.” That was FORTY years ago. Well? “The real answer is, I don’t know,” said Stevie.

So much for that.

[elle]

Just to clear things up the columnist is being sarcastic and most definently making a joke at his own age and also the fact that its been so long since their last album

This article is certainly not a hoax

it's extremely sloppy article (if it can be even called that, reads like that person was talking, had his phone convert it into words, and never looked back to see whether what's written actually makes any sense :laugh:), but it never struck me as a hoax.

wish we had more of a direct quote than what's in there, but - FINALLY!!!!!!

this only took 5 years so far since the rest of the band first started actually recording it, for her to finally agree to another FM album. hopefully adding Stevie's contributions to the album will take much much less and we will see that album some time in 2016/17 time frame.

and hopefully the whole 2016 will now not be hogged by the rest of the band having to work on just the FM album.

[MikeVielhaber]

Yesssssss.
The next question would be...when???

This was a really confusing article. At first I thought the writer had mixed Mick up with Sting. Then I thought maybe it was written by Sting. After reading it a couple of times I'm still none the wiser, though I assume Sting was at the premiere with Mick and Stevie. I'm surprised Sting and Mick never seem to have crossed paths before.

Does this suggest the EP songs will be part of the new album?
Screams 'double album'.

My thinking is what she meant by referring to the EP was that what they will eventually release will be more than an EP. Not necessarily that those same songs will feature on the album.

[shackin'up]

Tomorrow she tells something else. I hope she'll fit in, but I think they will make a 12 song album based on what's already there, so that she has to come in 10 days to do backingvocals and then that's it.

[olive]

this could also be one more thing on the list The Rhiannon Movie , Gold Fish & Lady Bug cartoon , an album with Tom .... so sit back and wait

[KarmaContestant]

My goodness. I hope it's double album. With a deluxe edition that's a triple album!!

[Macfanforever]

Thats great.If it happens or not.I'm not going to loose any sleep over it.

[PenguinHead]

I hope Stevie writes new material!! No more old demos... save that for Dave...

I'm sure Stevie will have new songs, but there is nothing wrong recording a demo; they don't have an expiration date. Our familiarity with her demos has no particular consequence.

What if a song like Rhiannon never evolved beyond a demo? Would it be too "old" to record in the future? Wouldn't you like it if she promised you heaven?

I'm elated that she's on board. We only have a scant five studio albums by the five fireflies. A sixth final album is very welcome.

[PenguinHead]

I'd like to see a standard version and a deluxe version, the deluxe including the EP songs redone with Christine.

If it's true, I hope they flesh out the EP songs; Sad Angel is the only one that sounds fully formed. I have a feeling it will be a lengthy album, along the lines of Say You Will.

[iamnotafraid]

Wonder if Herbert Worthington is doing the cover photo?


?noos ooT

[secondhandchain]

She must have agree during the last leg of the tour...hence the defrosting between Stevie and Lindsey. That's my guess. Good news! I hope this is true.

[LB Freakazoid]

I always felt that SN would do another album with FM. I must admit,though, it was fun to watch the debate whether she would or not.
How could she not??? Her past actions, quotes, interviews were all about FM carrying on. She always called FM "her band"... She came into the SYW sessions with "songs that were for FM".... Always proud of the "big time band of Fleetwood Mac". She knows where her bread - and clout - is buttered.
Even though she has had more commercial success with her solo career than my beloved Lindsey, the big machine of FM has done the same for her-- given her the avenues to pursue her own creative endeavors.

On a side note - going out on this last world tour, right after a huge world tour, because Christine came back, and putting all her own plans on halt, speaks volumes on just how committed SN really is to FM. I mean, come on!, there was no 3 year gap in between tours! Ha! I see it as she has sucked it up, marched on, and will not let the "whole big rock'n'roll thang of Fleetwood friggin Mac" whimper out.

And I think they all knew it too. Just drama... Just drama.....

[johnnystorms]

I always felt that SN would do another album with FM. I must admit,though, it was fun to watch the debate whether she would or not.
How could she not??? Her past actions, quotes, interviews were all about FM carrying on. She always called FM "her band"... She came into the SYW sessions with "songs that were for FM".... Always proud of the "big time band of Fleetwood Mac". She knows where her bread - and clout - is buttered.
Even though she has had more commercial success with her solo career than my beloved Lindsey, the big machine of FM has done the same for her-- given her the avenues to pursue her own creative endeavors.

On a side note - going out on this last world tour, right after a huge world tour, because Christine came back, and putting all her own plans on halt, speaks volumes on just how committed SN really is to FM. I mean, come on!, there was no 3 year gap in between tours! Ha! I see it as she has sucked it up, marched on, and will not let the "whole big rock'n'roll thang of Fleetwood friggin Mac" whimper out.

And I think they all knew it too. Just drama... Just drama.....

I'e always thought the same. They MILK the "drama" to the press, because it has kept them in the press since 1977! None of them are stupid. Keep the tension simmering, and when they "re-unite, re-convene, re-habilitate", the press EATS it up!

[stevienicksfan1]

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There has been an update on the article citing stevie will do a few solo projects beforehand

[louielouie2000]

http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/12/07/stevie-nicks-fleetwood-mac-will-record-new-album-group-has-plenty-of-songs/comment-page-1

There has been an update on the article citing stevie will do a few solo projects beforehand

...and FM is working on a project without her.

I should have known this was not a trusted news source. :rolleyes:

[MoonSister75]

Oh dear :shrug: It did seem a little strange, like things were moving along too smoothly.

The saga continues....

[Josh2003]

I don't think it's at all a bad sign that Stevie wants to do a few "solo projects" before an FM album. In fact, I figured that was a given and what she was likely holding out for all along.

She can do a small solo tour in the spring, April-May, while the band tinkers with songs she gives them, then hit the studio with them over the summer, putting the new album at a fall 2016/spring 2017 release.

[elle]

I don't think it's at all a bad sign that Stevie wants to do a few "solo projects" before an FM album. In fact, I figured that was a given and what she was likely holding out for all along.

She can do a small solo tour in the spring, April-May, while the band tinkers with songs she gives them, then hit the studio with them over the summer, putting the new album at a fall 2016/spring 2017 release.

no, i think that would be a perfect timeline. as long as they are not in a standstill anymore and they can plan their year, it should be all good.

the problem is that we are now very unsure whether we can trust ANYTHING written in that "article".

[tabruns]

I actually think most of the sturm und drang comes from fans rather than the group itself.

It's not at all surprising that Nicks mentions doing a few solo projects prior to the new Mac album coming out. It's in line with Buckingham's comments that the new album may take awhile to finish, and with Nicks's previous comments about wanting to release an expanded version of 24 Karat Gold.

The major news is that Nicks is now saying there will be a new Mac album, something she wasn't saying before.

[elle]

I actually think most of the sturm und drang comes from fans rather than the group itself.

It's not at all surprising that Nicks mentions doing a few solo projects prior to the new Mac album coming out. It's in line with Buckingham's comments that the new album may take awhile to finish, and with Nicks's previous comments about wanting to release an expanded version of 24 Karat Gold.

The major news is that Nicks is now saying there will be a new Mac album, something she wasn't saying before.

actually, most fans are just transmitting what Christine, Mick and Lindsey have been saying either in interviews, in Mick's meet and greets and in Lindsey's encounters with fans.

all three of them were very clear since the beginning of 2014 that everyone in FM except Stevie wants that new FM album, that they've been already working on bunch of new songs with at least 7 finished, that they are really hoping that Stevie will get on board, but that they will find other options to get their new material out if she's not on board, and that they are frustrated with not knowing what is next for FM and not being able to make any other plans because they keep waiting for Stevie to make up her mind one way or another.

so if this piece of news is true, and if Stevie has finally come to a decision to join the FM album, that must be a huge relief for the rest of the band, so they can finally make some plans.

and yes, probably since the early 80s this has been how FM operates, we just didn't know all this since there was no social media, and maybe Mick and Lindsey were not as open to talking to fans as they are these days. that doesn't mean these people don't get fed up with the same ole inefficient way of operating, as they are getting older and the time is running out.

[FuzzyPlum]

What an absolutely crap piece of journalism this is. Regarding the update- I assume this is extra information the writer happens to 'remember' from the original meeting as opposed to 'new' information that subsequently came through to him. My next query is- Mick will be working on a 'Fleetwood Mac project of some kind' or has he got that wrong too? Will it in fact turn out to be a 'Mick Fleetwood project'?

[elle]

What an absolutely crap piece of journalism this is. Regarding the update- I assume this is extra information the writer happens to 'remember' from the original meeting as opposed to 'new' information that subsequently came through to him. My next query is- Mick will be working on a 'Fleetwood Mac project of some kind' or has he got that wrong too? Will it in fact turn out to be a 'Mick Fleetwood project'?

:laugh: i know, i just wrote this exact same thing somewhere else.

i really hope you are right and this will be some Mick Fleetwood project, not that FM will be slaving away in the studio the whole year waiting for SN to join, kinda like they did according to Destiny Rules doc for SYW.

i want Lindsey to have the first part of the year for his solo projects. i want him to put some of that treasure trove of new music he has been recording since 2012 out as another solo album, and i want a solo tour in 2016. last time we saw him solo on tour was 2012 - way too long for my taste! i'm sure he conveniently forgot by now that he promised a "request" solo tour. :p :angel:

[FuzzyPlum]

i really hope you are right and this will be some Mick Fleetwood project, not that FM will be slaving away in the studio the whole year waiting for SN to join, kinda like they did according to Destiny Rules doc for SYW.


My bet is it will be a Mick Fleetwood thing. Perhaps another Blues Band album or something (perhaps with Christine on board- that would be great). Otherwise I can imagine him working on yet another retrospective FM album... Fleetwood Mac: The Platinum Collection. Yawn.

[shackin'up]

Tomorrow she tells something else.

Call me Nostradamus. I knew it before the update! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Fannymac]

I don't think it's at all a bad sign that Stevie wants to do a few "solo projects" before an FM album. In fact, I figured that was a given and what she was likely holding out for all along.

She can do a small solo tour in the spring, April-May, while the band tinkers with songs she gives them, then hit the studio with them over the summer, putting the new album at a fall 2016/spring 2017 release.

TOTALLY agree.....I don't think we'll see the FM album until late 2016 or early 2017.....remember, 2017 is the band's 50th anniversary, so it only makes sense that they would release the album and do another tour. That gives Stevie a good portion of 2016 to do her solo thing and get it out of her system! There WILL be another FM album with all 5 members....maybe not as soon as some would like, but it WILL happen!

[PenguinHead]

I'e always thought the same. They MILK the "drama" to the press, because it has kept them in the press since 1977! None of them are stupid. Keep the tension simmering, and when they "re-unite, re-convene, re-habilitate", the press EATS it up!

I don't think the drama is contrived. They are all disparate personalities with different agendas. Stevie's and Lindsey's contentious relationship has ebbed and waned ever since they joined the band. No doubt they have exploited that aspect of the band. It went into hype-drive with Rumours.

But the tension is real, and exists to this day. It's why they only made five studio albums. Live albums, compilations, solo albums, with band members coming and going and coming back filled the large spaces in between.

The drama is inherent in their DNA, beginning when Peter Green dramatically left the band. With this massive world tour, they are back on the radar on a large scale. There is no need for deliberate tactics to garner the attention of the press.

[elle]

TOTALLY agree.....I don't think we'll see the FM album until late 2016 or early 2017.....remember, 2017 is the band's 50th anniversary, so it only makes sense that they would release the album and do another tour. That gives Stevie a good portion of 2016 to do her solo thing and get it out of her system! There WILL be another FM album with all 5 members....maybe not as soon as some would like, but it WILL happen!

well yeah, some of us (and some of the band members!) wanted a FM album in 2010, then 2012, and in 2014/15.... we could have had 2-3 FM albums instead of just a measly one, some with and some without missing or non-cooperative band members, with all the material they recorded so far. but it is what it is.

right now, things are good. at least we know we will get to hear some of the material they recorded 2012-2014. and 2017 sounds the most realistic for the new album to come out right now. which is better than nothing, and better than band members sitting around waiting.

[FuzzyPlum]

TOTALLY agree.....I don't think we'll see the FM album until late 2016 or early 2017.....remember, 2017 is the band's 50th anniversary, so it only makes sense that they would release the album and do another tour. That gives Stevie a good portion of 2016 to do her solo thing and get it out of her system! There WILL be another FM album with all 5 members....maybe not as soon as some would like, but it WILL happen!

For me, seeing an album in 2017 was always going to be a worst case scenario. I mean, its great there's some certainty from the horses mouth, but as has been said, there's been so much waiting, this recent Stevie announcement was a real source of excitement for a while. I feel a bit deflated now. Stevie can shove her solo project up her Vault as far as I'm concerned.

[Nick]

For me, seeing an album in 2017 was always going to be a worst case scenario. I mean, its great there's some certainty from the horses mouth, but as has been said, there's been so much waiting, this recent Stevie announcement was a real source of excitement for a while. I feel a bit deflated now. Stevie can shove her solo project up her Vault as far as I'm concerned.

I know how you feel. We've waited for this never ending tour to conclude and yet the new album still seems so far off. As a Stevie fan, I'm hoping this solo thing next year is a very quick recording of Vault 2, nobody wants a repackaged version of Vault 1. I also hope she's not touring behind this.
I'd rather she get her ass in the studio with Fleetwood Mac to record that album ASAP.

[Phil]

I wouldn't mind a repackaging of Vault 1 as long as some tracks were re-recorded/remixed and of course, Vault 2 was included.

[James89]

Stevie had a lacklustre response for 24KG, even though it hit #7, so surely she realises that whatever she follows it up with won't be greeted with huge success.

A new Mac album, the first since 2003 and the first with all five since 1987 WILL do incredibly well and I just can't bloody wait for that day to come.

Surely if it does come it will be one of the most anticipated albums of all time?

[elle]

Stevie had a lacklustre response for 24KG, even though it hit #7, so surely she realises that whatever she follows it up with won't be greeted with huge success.

A new Mac album, the first since 2003 and the first with all five since 1987 WILL do incredibly well and I just can't bloody wait for that day to come.

Surely if it does come it will be one of the most anticipated albums of all time?

:lol: why? old legendary bands are putting out new albums all the time, and some after a long abstinence from recording together. how anticipated and successful they are in most cases heavily depends on their pr campaign, which in this day and age includes highly and smartly developed social media strategy, peppered with the right tv appearances (like the Today Show where they announced Christine is rejoining), etc. if history can teach us anything, FM has not had a good marketing strategy in a long long time, and i don't really expect the things to change for this album either. but it would be really nice to be proven wrong!

i don't think Mick and Lindsey, at least, expect the new album to be any kind of commercial success.

[olive]

:lol: why? old legendary bands are putting out new albums all the time, and some after a long abstinence from recording together.
.

and no radio station ever plays them

[Nick]

:lol: why? old legendary bands are putting out new albums all the time, and some after a long abstinence from recording together. how anticipated and successful they are in most cases heavily depends on their pr campaign, which in this day and age includes highly and smartly developed social media strategy, peppered with the right tv appearances (like the Today Show where they announced Christine is rejoining), etc. if history can teach us anything, FM has not had a good marketing strategy in a long long time, and i don't really expect the things to change for this album either. but it would be really nice to be proven wrong!

i don't think Mick and Lindsey, at least, expect the new album to be any kind of commercial success.

I remember a new Eagles album being a big deal several years back, went on to be a big seller. As for Fleetwood Mac, I think if the right first single was chosen for AC and or Adult Top 40 stations, it could do well worldwide. Would be a good idea to release around the holidays. Sure, it won't sell Adele type numbers, but better than a Stevie solo album would sell. Out of all these fans around the world who paid to see these 5 in concert, I couldn't see the new album bombing.

[KarmaContestant]

My bet is it will be a Mick Fleetwood thing. Perhaps another Blues Band album or something (perhaps with Christine on board- that would be great). Otherwise I can imagine him working on yet another retrospective FM album... Fleetwood Mac: The Platinum Collection. Yawn.

Rumours 40th anniversary edition. :p

[BigAl84]

I wouldn't mind a repackaging of 24K with a new, proper remastering! There are weird things going on with the final mix of that album. She could pair it with a second disc of live recordings from the Fillmore or Wiltern Shows!

[louielouie2000]

I wouldn't mind a repackaging of 24K with a new, proper remastering! There are weird things going on with the final mix of that album. She could pair it with a second disc of live recordings from the Fillmore or Wiltern Shows!

I doubt she's going to sink any more money into that losing venture. However, I could easily see her doing a second Songs From The Vault album, and a small theater tour this summer to promote the songs from both albums. Then returning to FM by Autumn.

[bombaysaffires]

I wouldn't mind a repackaging of Vault 1 as long as some tracks were re-recorded/remixed and of course, Vault 2 was included.

I wouldn't mind a repackaging of 24K with a new, proper remastering! There are weird things going on with the final mix of that album. She could pair it with a second disc of live recordings from the Fillmore or Wiltern Shows!

nooo.... way too soon for any sort of remix/remaster/rerelease of that album. no one who hasn't already bought it is going to buy it in a new format. And it would be a waste of the opportunity to get new music out.

It's bad enough we're not getting new Mac music any time soon, for her to delay a FM album for a retread would be an even greater sin.

:distress:

[lilyfee]

I always felt that SN would do another album with FM. I must admit,though, it was fun to watch the debate whether she would or not.
How could she not???

Like waiting for Hillary Clinton to announce she was running for president!:laugh:

The idea of a FM album/"project" without Stevie sounds incredibly ominous but I am glad to hear she has officially committed to another album!

I would welcome SFTV 2 and a small Stevie tour in the interim before the next FM album!!

I love that people are always asking about Buckingham Nicks. Maybe all this pestering will get them to actually release it!

Stevie and FM both should hire Dave Stewart to promote their album, IMHO. From what I hear, a lot of the successful 24KG promotion (i.e. Stevie's photo exhibit) were his ideas.

Slight tangent, but I wish the band/Stevie would stop using exclusively morning TV to try to get the word out. They say the same thing on every show and I of course speak for myself here, but I don't know anyone who watches morning shows. The only time I watch is if the show has posted a clip of someone I like on Youtube. I think they'd be better off with late night appearances or high-profile cameos in other mediums if they want new fans.

I'm in my twenties and I discovered the band a few years ago through Stevie's American Horror Story appearance. My dad was a fan and had some of their old albums but buying new music is the last thing on his mind. Stevie seems to be the only one willing to advertise to younger generations, but truly, people my age will buy good music. They just have to find out about it somehow and decide it's worth buying. :shrug:

[secondhandchain]

She disappoints yet again. She's done enough solo projects lately.

[michelej1]

What an absolutely crap piece of journalism this is. Regarding the update- I assume this is extra information the writer happens to 'remember' from the original meeting as opposed to 'new' information that subsequently came through to him.

Good question. Did someone call and tell him to clarify his story or did he just decide to update it when he saw social media response to the news.

Michele

[iamnotafraid]

Did someone call and tell him to clarify his story or did he just decide to update it when he saw social media response to the news.

Michele


Maybe he's just a raconteur.

[RavenOfRhiannon]

Good question. Did someone call and tell him to clarify his story or did he just decide to update it when he saw social media response to the news.

Michele

My guess is that Stevie's management made the clarification. Only way they would have run an update that quickly

[WildHearted]

Good question. Did someone call and tell him to clarify his story or did he just decide to update it when he saw social media response to the news.

Michele

Based on his little "oh the drama" type comment at the end of the update, I'm willing to bet he was contacted by someone in Stevie / FM's management to clarify after they got wind that the story was making the rounds.

[jbrownsjr]

What an absolutely crap piece of journalism this is. Regarding the update- I assume this is extra information the writer happens to 'remember' from the original meeting as opposed to 'new' information that subsequently came through to him. My next query is- Mick will be working on a 'Fleetwood Mac project of some kind' or has he got that wrong too? Will it in fact turn out to be a 'Mick Fleetwood project'?

It was so poorly written.

[secondhandchain]

2 solo albums since 2011. 1 FM studio album since 2004. It's hard for me to even like her anymore.

[KarmaContestant]

2 solo albums since 2011. 1 FM studio album since 2004. It's hard for me to even like her anymore.

:shrug:

That's harsh.

People have to follow their own path in life. We each have our own route to happiness, and sometimes those paths cross, and sometimes they don't.

Think of the albums that might have been between 1987 and 1997, had Lindsey not walked out completely.

But again, we have to follow our own paths. No one else is going to put you first, but you.

[BombaySapphire3]

:shrug:

That's harsh.

People have to follow their own path in life. We each have our own route to happiness, and sometimes those paths cross, and sometimes they don't.

Think of the albums that might have been between 1987 and 1997, had Lindsey not walked out completely.

But again, we have to follow our own paths. No one else is going to put you first, but you.

Not to mention Christine leaving for 16 years.Sure I would have loved it if FM had made a new album right away instead of the long and lucrative oldies tour.If Stevie had not been in the mood to do it however her work on it would suffer and after her having dropped the ball so badly on Tango I for one would hate to see that.

[MikeVielhaber]

The difference between Stevie now and Lindsey and Christine before is timing and age. They had time to leave and come back then. Christine couldn't take 16 years off now. She'd be, what, 89? Lindsey, too, would be quite old in 10 years. Late 70s. The band doesn't have all that time to waste anymore. Stevie also took a break from the band in the 90s too. Stevie can keep going as long as she wants to, she's in control of his solo career, after all. The band will not go on indefinitely and probably has only a short time remaining as there are 5 people that need to come together for it to work and they're all getting up there in age. So, as far as the band is concerned, Stevie just isn't afforded the opportunity to take an extended break anymore and expect everything to just pick back up later.

[michelej1]

And this is why I'm here.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/michelej1/FullSizeRender_zpsesgdet0p.jpg (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/michelej1/media/FullSizeRender_zpsesgdet0p.jpg.html)

The deluxe edition is as annoying as the original double album package. It's impossible to handle it without 5 things falling onto the floor.

Michele

[KarmaContestant]

.If Stevie had not been in the mood to do it however her work on it would suffer and after her having dropped the ball so badly on Tango I for one would hate to see that.

Completely. I was listening to Say You Will a couple days ago, and it's been a while I was caught of guard by how detached Stevie sounds on a couple tracks. There in her head but not her heart.


So, as far as the band is concerned, Stevie just isn't afforded the opportunity to take an extended break anymore and expect everything to just pick back up later.

You make a great point. There is a sense of urgency about all of this because of their age, and Stevie should give that consideration.

[lilyfee]

And this is why I'm here.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/michelej1/FullSizeRender_zpsesgdet0p.jpg (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/michelej1/media/FullSizeRender_zpsesgdet0p.jpg.html)

The deluxe edition is as annoying as the original double album package. It's impossible to handle it without 5 things falling onto the floor.

Michele

Stevie's hand placement...:laugh:

[vivfox]

Stevie's hand placement...:laugh

It's nearing the 2 O'clock hour.:lol::woohoo:

[jbrownsjr]

Stevie's hand placement...:laugh:

And Christine has the backside. lol

[bsavi4]

TOTALLY agree.....I don't think we'll see the FM album until late 2016 or early 2017.....remember, 2017 is the band's 50th anniversary, so it only makes sense that they would release the album and do another tour. That gives Stevie a good portion of 2016 to do her solo thing and get it out of her system! There WILL be another FM album with all 5 members....maybe not as soon as some would like, but it WILL happen!

That's what I've come to expect. 2017 album and tour (band's 50th, Rumours's 40th, Tango's 30th, Dance's 20th anniversaries). I just hope all of this pressure for new material from fans doesn't cause the band to release another Say You Will type double album that sounds very disjoint and includes way too many poor songs that should have been scrapped. I'd prefer an 11 track album that flows nicely to an 18-20 track bloated double album that's crammed with filler for the sole purpose of getting as much new material out as possible. Even with Stevie just contributing a few vault songs, there should be enough quality material from the 3 to create a relatively even single album without any weak fillers.

[vivfox]

I just hope all of this pressure for new material from fans doesn't cause the band to release another Say You Will type double album that sounds very disjoint and includes way too many poor songs that should have been scrapped. I'd prefer an 11 track album that flows nicely to an 18-20 track bloated double album that's crammed with filler for the sole purpose of getting as much new material out as possible. Even with Stevie just contributing a few vault songs, there should be enough quality material from the 3 to create a relatively even single album without any weak fillers.

I respect your opinion but just wanted to say that to me SYW is a very good album and I am glad to have all those songs. I would always welcome another double album from FM.That's a whole slew new songs for us to enjoy the rest of our lives. Music that we deserve.

[Fannymac]

That's what I've come to expect. 2017 album and tour (band's 50th, Rumours's 40th, Tango's 30th, Dance's 20th anniversaries). I just hope all of this pressure for new material from fans doesn't cause the band to release another Say You Will type double album that sounds very disjoint and includes way too many poor songs that should have been scrapped. I'd prefer an 11 track album that flows nicely to an 18-20 track bloated double album that's crammed with filler for the sole purpose of getting as much new material out as possible. Even with Stevie just contributing a few vault songs, there should be enough quality material from the 3 to create a relatively even single album without any weak fillers.

I don't think you have to worry about that....I think this album is VERY important to the members of the group, and I'm betting that they'll ALL bring their A game!!

[Fannymac]

:shrug:

That's harsh.

People have to follow their own path in life. We each have our own route to happiness, and sometimes those paths cross, and sometimes they don't.

Think of the albums that might have been between 1987 and 1997, had Lindsey not walked out completely.

But again, we have to follow our own paths. No one else is going to put you first, but you.

Agreed....she's dedicated the last 40 years of her life to FM, pretty much running back to them whenever they called. I see nothing wrong with taking some time for herself...she's EARNED it!

[Fannymac]

I remember a new Eagles album being a big deal several years back, went on to be a big seller. As for Fleetwood Mac, I think if the right first single was chosen for AC and or Adult Top 40 stations, it could do well worldwide. Would be a good idea to release around the holidays. Sure, it won't sell Adele type numbers, but better than a Stevie solo album would sell. Out of all these fans around the world who paid to see these 5 in concert, I couldn't see the new album bombing.

I agree.....as hot as Fleetwood Mac is right now, if they stay in the public eye for the next year and build up anticipation for the album, I think it could be a MAJOR hit! (Finding a great label to back them will also be vital!).

[jbrownsjr]

That's what I've come to expect. 2017 album and tour (band's 50th, Rumours's 40th, Tango's 30th, Dance's 20th anniversaries). I just hope all of this pressure for new material from fans doesn't cause the band to release another Say You Will type double album that sounds very disjoint and includes way too many poor songs that should have been scrapped. I'd prefer an 11 track album that flows nicely to an 18-20 track bloated double album that's crammed with filler for the sole purpose of getting as much new material out as possible. Even with Stevie just contributing a few vault songs, there should be enough quality material from the 3 to create a relatively even single album without any weak fillers.

Makes sense... agree about SYW..

[elle]

Makes sense... agree about SYW..

syw is full of filler?!?!?!? i'm not talking to you ever again!! :p

just wondering, which songs people think are filler on syw?

i dislike and can't listen to most of Stevie's song on that album, but that's just my taste, i would never call those songs filler! something you don't like is not the same as filler.

well, maybe wtwict would be a filler for me on syw :p

[vivfox]

well, maybe wtwct would be a filler for me on syw :p

I love that song.

[PenguinHead]

I respect your opinion but just wanted to say that to me SYW is a very good album and I am glad to have all those songs. I would always welcome another double album from FM.That's a whole slew new songs for us to enjoy the rest of our lives. Music that we deserve.

I'm with you. Say You Will is a good album. Taking consideration to the dearth of the band's output in contrast to their longevity, I'm appreciative of anything they put out. Sure, Say You Will could be a tighter album if it was pared down. Some could say that about Tusk too. But they are what they are, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm hoping they record more songs than required (10 to 12) for a traditional album. There seems to to be a trend now of longer albums and/or bonus tracks.

[MikeVielhaber]

Agreed....she's dedicated the last 40 years of her life to FM, pretty much running back to them whenever they called. I see nothing wrong with taking some time for herself...she's EARNED it!

Except when they want to enter the studio. Then she doesn't come running.

[MikeVielhaber]

I'm with you. Say You Will is a good album. Taking consideration to the dearth of the band's output in contrast to their longevity, I'm appreciative of anything they put out. Sure, Say You Will could be a tighter album if it was pared down. Some could say that about Tusk too. But they are what they are, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm hoping they record more songs than required (10 to 12) for a traditional album. There seems to to be a trend now of longer albums and/or bonus tracks.

I think albums are shorter than they once were. At one time people tried to pack the CD to the brim and I think they've come away from that.

[FuzzyPlum]

What's The World Coming To? is a terrific song. It was a good upbeat opener. When I first played it I thought 'hey this is pretty good, I'm quite relieved' (I was worried the album might have been a complete bummer). It's not the best song on the album but it certainly isn't the worst. I can't think how anyone would feel it to be 'filler'. Certainly the band didn't think so otherwise they wouldn't have opened with it. I'm not sure there are any songs that you could 100% describe as filler songs though you could probably strip out Red Rover, Come, Silver Girl and Goodbye Baby- that would have left a more concise, playable album. I'm sure there are plenty of people though, that will be in uproar that one or more of those songs are amongst their favourites.

[FuzzyPlum]

I'd prefer an 11 track album that flows nicely to an 18-20 track bloated double album that's crammed with filler for the sole purpose of getting as much new material out as possible.


If they have so much material and are likely to be recording more in the Spring I really hope they'd give us a 12 song album at the end of next year followed by a second one a short time later in 2017. That way they can shift some of the stuff thats been sitting on the shelf and still have 'new product' out in the big quinquagenary year.

[Macfanforever]

That's what I've come to expect. 2017 album and tour (band's 50th, Rumours's 40th, Tango's 30th, Dance's 20th anniversaries). I just hope all of this pressure for new material from fans doesn't cause the band to release another Say You Will type double album that sounds very disjoint and includes way too many poor songs that should have been scrapped. I'd prefer an 11 track album that flows nicely to an 18-20 track bloated double album that's crammed with filler for the sole purpose of getting as much new material out as possible. Even with Stevie just contributing a few vault songs, there should be enough quality material from the 3 to create a relatively even single album without any weak fillers.

I love SYW.Mac always puts out great tunes but some they should keep off the tour set lists.

And this is why I'm here.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/michelej1/FullSizeRender_zpsesgdet0p.jpg (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/michelej1/media/FullSizeRender_zpsesgdet0p.jpg.html)

The deluxe edition is as annoying as the original double album package. It's impossible to handle it without 5 things falling onto the floor.

Michele

I love that photo .Thanks Michele.


syw is full of filler?!?!?!? i'm not talking to you ever again!! :p

just wondering, which songs people think are filler on syw?

i dislike and can't listen to most of Stevie's song on that album, but that's just my taste, i would never call those songs filler! something you don't like is not the same as filler.

well, maybe wtwict would be a filler for me on syw :p

Hahaha .Thats the problem with food these days. Too much filler in it.I noticed that an issue with the current artists.

I'm with you. Say You Will is a good album. Taking consideration to the dearth of the band's output in contrast to their longevity, I'm appreciative of anything they put out. Sure, Say You Will could be a tighter album if it was pared down. Some could say that about Tusk too. But they are what they are, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm hoping they record more songs than required (10 to 12) for a traditional album. There seems to to be a trend now of longer albums and/or bonus tracks.

I hope so to.I forget the count of the song they've done already.

I think albums are shorter than they once were. At one time people tried to pack the CD to the brim and I think they've come away from that.

I agree .Less music and cost more to buy.


I respect your opinion but just wanted to say that to me SYW is a very good album and I am glad to have all those songs. I would always welcome another double album from FM.That's a whole slew new songs for us to enjoy the rest of our lives. Music that we deserve.

I thought SYW was a great album.It had great radio airplay.I really enjoyed SYW.

[Dreamz19]

I respect your opinion but just wanted to say that to me SYW is a very good album and I am glad to have all those songs. I would always welcome another double album from FM.That's a whole slew new songs for us to enjoy the rest of our lives. Music that we deserve.

I completely agree. I love Say You Will just as it is. Some of my favorite all-time Stevie and Lindsey songs are on that album.

[nicole21290]

I adore Say You Will and, after Tusk, it's probably the album of theirs I listen to most. I could happily scrap Silver Girl and I'm not a huge fan of WTWCT (though a few of the lyrics interest me), but the rest, even including the bonus tracks? So thankful for each and every one of them. Even if I wish Say Goodbye had been recorded at the pace they played it live...

[johnnystorms]

I love that song.
ditto! I think it's one of the closest on the record to the classic "full band sound"

[jbrownsjr]

syw is full of filler?!?!?!? i'm not talking to you ever again!! :p

just wondering, which songs people think are filler on syw?

i dislike and can't listen to most of Stevie's song on that album, but that's just my taste, i would never call those songs filler! something you don't like is not the same as filler.

well, maybe wtwict would be a filler for me on syw :p

Let's just start with the opening song which is an utter piece of crap..
so is Peacekeeper, Destiny Rules, so is Silver Girl, so is Goodbye Baby. Really can't stand the title track, either.

I love Illume, Miranda, Come, Running Through The Garden, Everybody Finds Out... Would have been a great EP... lol

[elle]

Let's just start with the opening song which is an utter piece of crap..
so is Peacekeeper, Destiny Rules, so is Silver Girl, so is Goodbye Baby. Really can't stand the title track, either.

I love Illume, Miranda, Come, Running Through The Garden, Everybody Finds Out... Would have been a great EP... lol

a great EP? :lol:

while you and i agree on the opening song, apparently we are the only ones if you look at the comments above in this thread.

the rest on your list? i know you are not serious now :D. you are clear that you are talking about the songs you don't like, but mot necessarily about the filler songs. but you called them filler originally, and everyone likes and dislikes different songs on SYW so i feel a string need to defend this album, since some of my all time favorite songs are on it (and yeah sure solo LB GOS would have been much better but that ship has sailed). :shrug:

here's the track list - with my opinion on what is a filler vs what i don't like -

1. "What's the World Coming To?" - filler, don't like, hurts my ears.
2. "Murrow Turning Over in His Grave" - stunning song (but it's rocking, and not for poppy or adult contemporary taste so if that's your musical taste - sure you will not like this song. not a filler)
3. "Illume (9–11)" - if i didn't read all the opinions here, i would consider this song a filler. it hurts my ears.
4. "Thrown Down" - definitely not a filler, it's going for a pop hit, old time rumours-era FM vibe (but eh to me)
5. "Miranda" - not a filler (but eh to me)
6. "Red Rover" - unbelievable, stunning, intricate song. not for everyone's taste, but definitely not a filler. some consider it one of Lindsey's best.
7. "Say You Will" - see Thrown Down
8. "Peacekeeper" - great lyrics, for music see Thrown Down, but less formulaic
9. "Come" - hard rocking song. not for the light of heart, pop / adult-contemporary-music-liking FM fans. definitely not a filler. trying to show Mac can rock. apparently many FM fans don't want them to. :laugh:
10. "Smile at You" - eh, too bad this was not the original version, which did rock unlike this one. but not a filler.
11. "Running Through the Garden" - this one hurts my ears too, but it's definitely not a filler.
12. "Silver Girl" - eh, this one really does seem to be a filler, however you turn it or look at it. boring, droning.
13. "Steal Your Heart Away" - not a filler, no need to even discuss
14. "Bleed to Love Her" - one of Lindsey's prettiest songs. not a filler, no need to even discuss
15. "Everybody Finds Out" - rocking, although boring to me. but not a filler.
16. "Destiny Rules" - gorgeous guitar parts save this one from the droning voice. definitely not a filler.
17. "Say Goodbye" - Lindsey channeling some old crooners. although intricate guitar parts that should have been used in a better song. can't stand this song. but people don''t consider it a filler, and love it. FM members definitely don't consider it a filler.
18. "Goodbye Baby" - i think this song is pretty. could have been better, more melodic, etc, but still. pretty. not a filler.

[jbrownsjr]

a great EP? :lol:

while you and i agree on the opening song, apparently we are the only ones if you look at the comments above in this thread.

the rest on your list? i know you are not serious now :D. you are clear that you are talking about the songs you don't like, but mot necessarily about the filler songs. but you called them filler originally, and everyone likes and dislikes different songs on SYW so i feel a string need to defend this album, since some of my all time favorite songs are on it (and yeah sure solo LB GOS would have been much better but that ship has sailed). :shrug:

here's the track list - with my opinion on what is a filler vs what i don't like -

1. "What's the World Coming To?" - filler, don't like, hurts my ears.
2. "Murrow Turning Over in His Grave" - stunning song (but it's rocking, and not for poppy or adult contemporary taste so if that's your musical taste - sure you will not like this song. not a filler)
3. "Illume (9–11)" - if i didn't read all the opinions here, i would consider this song a filler. it hurts my ears.
4. "Thrown Down" - definitely not a filler, it's going for a pop hit, old time rumours-era FM vibe (but eh to me)
5. "Miranda" - not a filler (but eh to me)
6. "Red Rover" - unbelievable, stunning, intricate song. not for everyone's taste, but definitely not a filler. some consider it one of Lindsey's best.
7. "Say You Will" - see Thrown Down
8. "Peacekeeper" - great lyrics, for music see Thrown Down, but less formulaic
9. "Come" - hard rocking song. not for the light of heart, pop / adult-contemporary-music-liking FM fans. definitely not a filler. trying to show Mac can rock. apparently many FM fans don't want them to. :laugh:
10. "Smile at You" - eh, too bad this was not the original version, which did rock unlike this one. but not a filler.
11. "Running Through the Garden" - this one hurts my ears too, but it's definitely not a filler.
12. "Silver Girl" - eh, this one really does seem to be a filler, however you turn it or look at it. boring, droning.
13. "Steal Your Heart Away" - not a filler, no need to even discuss
14. "Bleed to Love Her" - one of Lindsey's prettiest songs. not a filler, no need to even discuss
15. "Everybody Finds Out" - rocking, although boring to me. but not a filler.
16. "Destiny Rules" - gorgeous guitar parts save this one from the droning voice. definitely not a filler.
17. "Say Goodbye" - Lindsey channeling some old crooners. although intricate guitar parts that should have been used in a better song. can't stand this song. but people don''t consider it a filler, and love it. FM members definitely don't consider it a filler.
18. "Goodbye Baby" - i think this song is pretty. could have been better, more melodic, etc, but still. pretty. not a filler.

Wow, we do agree.. except 18 is awful... 14 just plain don't like it.. but not filler.. I agree... I like 11, but yeah Stevie was not in great voice on most of this album.. drone is a good word for it...

[jbrownsjr]

Wow, we do agree.. except 18 is awful... 14 just plain don't like it.. but not filler.. I agree... I like 11, but yeah Stevie was not in great voice on most of this album.. drone is a good word for it...

oh and I love #2 and 6

[KenB]

Another opinion on Say You Will:

The only Stevie songs I like on it are Thrown Down, Goodbye Baby, and to a lesser extent Destiny Rules.

The only Lindsey songs I DON'T like on it are Peacekeeper, Miranda, and Come.

[jbrownsjr]

Another opinion on Say You Will:

The only Stevie songs I like on it are Thrown Down, Goodbye Baby, and to a lesser extent Destiny Rules.

The only Lindsey songs I DON'T like on it are Peacekeeper, Miranda, and Come.

You like What's the World Coming To more than Come or Miranda?

[nicole21290]

You like What's the World Coming To more than Come or Miranda?

WTWCT is the weak link of Lindsey's songs to me, though there's a neat lyric or two. Musically, I find it fairly uninspiring. Silver Girl is definitely the weak link of the album, though. Other than those (and some production choices and vocals I would have re-done), I think it's a pretty solid album, especially considering its length.

[HomerMcvie]

You like What's the World Coming To more than Come or Miranda?

WTWCT is my favorite song on SYW. :(

[KarmaContestant]

I like (not love) all of Say You Will...except Red Rover and Come.

Red Rover has some complicated stuff going on, but it just annoys me to no end. About half-way through I say "No." and press the button to skip it. It's the chorus, I think, if I had to pinpoint my annoyances.

Come I don't like because of the slow-MANIC-slow-MANIC verse and chord structure.

The rest of the album is technically great but Stevie's *soul* is completely lacking from all of her songs.

[mitzo]

I see SYW as Stevie's best solo effort, the 9 tunes of hers produced by Linds certainly consistently exceed any of her solo albums. Excellent production and Linds managed to tease some great vocals out of her when she was vocally not at the top of her game, and he is a genius in the studio. I especially love Illume, Running through the Garden, and Smile at You.
Linds doing his own stuff gives me a migraine on this one.... with the exception of Steal Your Heart Away. The man should stick to producing and stop pretending to be a songwriter. Or a singer. Ick.

[KarmaContestant]

I see SYW as Stevie's best solo effort, the 9 tunes of hers produced by Linds certainly consistently exceed any of her solo albums. Excellent production and Linds managed to tease some great vocals out of her when she was vocally not at the top of her game, and he is a genius in the studio.

I agree with the bolded text, but not the first part of your statement. All of the ingredients were there, but for me, they just didn't pull it off.

To me, Stevie's vocals come off as sterile. When she emotes, it's too careful and measured. She's trying too hard. Girl can't let her hair down. Honestly, it's probably to shut Lindsey up because I get the impression that he so very much enjoys nit picking at her over little details.

Then again, as the Producer, that's sort of his job.

I do believe neither one of them is capable of taking a technical approach to the other's songs without letting emotions get in the way. In the machine of Fleetwood Mac, Lindsey is granted too much influence over the end result of Stevie's songs; both the band and the album would benefit greatly from an outside producer taking the helm completely. Someone up-and-coming but known by none of them personally. If I were the band counselor, that would be my prescription for them.

Lindsey is a pro - I can't deny that - but the magic that he gave to Stevie tracks of yore just isn't there anymore to my ears, and I don't know that it even exists in him to do that anymore. There was an emotional investment going into those songs back then that can't exist now.

Or maybe it can. I don't know, but I don't hear it on any of the tracks recorded for Say You Will.

[elle]

I agree with the bolded text, but not the first part of your statement. All of the ingredients were there, but for me, they just didn't pull it off.

To me, Stevie's vocals come off as sterile. When she emotes, it's too careful and measured. She's trying too hard. Girl can't let her hair down. Honestly, it's probably to shut Lindsey up because I get the impression that he so very much enjoys nit picking at her over little details.

Then again, as the Producer, that's sort of his job.

I do believe neither one of them is capable of taking a technical approach to the other's songs without letting emotions get in the way. In the machine of Fleetwood Mac, Lindsey is granted too much influence over the end result of Stevie's songs; both the band and the album would benefit greatly from an outside producer taking the helm completely. Someone up-and-coming but known by none of them personally. If I were the band counselor, that would be my prescription for them.

Lindsey is a pro - I can't deny that - but the magic that he gave to Stevie tracks of yore just isn't there anymore to my ears, and I don't know that it even exists in him to do that anymore. There was an emotional investment going into those songs back then that can't exist now.

Or maybe it can. I don't know, but I don't hear it on any of the tracks recorded for Say You Will.

while i agree that Stevie's sound / droning voice / possible lack of emotion is evident on SYW, i'm not quite sure whether that's a result of too much or too little Lindsey's influence.

just on the bases of watching that Destiny Rules document - he seemed to have been more interested in mending the fences / repairing a relationship and letting her feel his support, unlike during their younger heyday. during Rumours / Tusk / Mirage / Tango years he was not afraid - and probably really enjoyed - telling her what exactly is wrong with her songs and how they should sound. during SYW and more recent times, as you said, he doesn't have all that love/hate emotional investment in her anymore, he's more interested in repairing the relationship, so he is more interested in letting her run with whatever she wants to do with the songs. which results in less of his influence and less of his vision for her songs.

remember in Tusk doc when they are working on Angel and he says "IF we even use your melody" or something like that? i can never imagine him saying something like that these days. and she would never let him, either. so SYW Stevie songs may be a result of too little Lindsey influence and his holding back to tell her exactly what he thinks of her songs. :shrug:

all speculation, same as yours. but that's my impression from that Destiny Rules doc.

also quite possibly, she is not nearly as open to let her emotions and guards down anymore, like she was when she was young, drunk, and high - especially around someone like Lindsey whose shadow and influence on her success she seemed to have been trying to get out of most of her musical career.

which all leads me to agree with you - while Lindsey and the rest of the band should work with Stevie on her songs (if she has any) and make sure there is a cohesive sound to the album, there should be also another producer brought in, who will not have the same baggage Lindsey has with Stevie, and can say whatever he/she thinks.

[BLY]

I have been buying these records since the beginning. It's age. I was playing some early stuff this past weekend from the 70's. It's just the reality of her voice as as a 60 plus year old. Lindsey or anyone else could only so do much " magic" in the studio. I will still take what is delivered.

[KarmaContestant]

just on the bases of watching that Destiny Rules document - he seemed to have been more interested in mending the fences / repairing a relationship and letting her feel his support, unlike during their younger heyday. during Rumours / Tusk / Mirage / Tango years he was not afraid - and probably really enjoyed - telling her what exactly is wrong with her songs and how they should sound. during SYW and more recent times, as you said, he doesn't have all that love/hate emotional investment in her anymore, he's more interested in repairing the relationship, so he is more interested in letting her run with whatever she wants to do with the songs. which results in less of his influence and less of his vision for her songs.

also quite possibly, she is not nearly as open to let her emotions and guards down anymore, like she was when she was young, drunk, and high - especially around someone like Lindsey whose shadow and influence on her success she seemed to have been trying to get out of most of her musical career.



:nod: Yes and yes - I too felt that Lindsey took a conciliatory tone with Stevie in the Destiny Rules doc, but Stevie - as much as I love her - did not seem particularly interested in being reconciled. She didn't impress me - and I only saw the documentary last year - but it forever changed the way I hear that album.

She stood in stark contrast to the Stevie presented in In Your Dreams. That Stevie was affable and gregarious.

An outside producer would take the pressure off both of them, but honestly, I think they'll let Lindsey do it so they don't have to pay someone.

Maybe they've worked it out by now. Say you Will Was 12 years ago (!!) and they've had a few tours to develop a better working relationship and Christine is back (!!).

[KarmaContestant]

I have been buying these records since the beginning. It's age. I was playing some early stuff this past weekend from the 70's. It's just the reality of her voice as as a 60 plus year old. Lindsey or anyone else could only so do much " magic" in the studio. I will still take what is delivered.

:laugh:

I don't mean magic in the sense of making Stevie's songs better than they are, but rather the magic that happens when two people who get along and like each other create something, and they put their best into it, and you can hear it.

[jbrownsjr]

WTWCT is my favorite song on SYW. :(

Nobody asked you, now go fix your swimming pool or something.... :p:xoxo:

[jbrownsjr]

WTWCT is the weak link of Lindsey's songs to me, though there's a neat lyric or too. Musically, I find it fairly uninspiring. Silver Girl is definitely the weak link of the album, though. Other than those (and some production choices and vocals I would have re-done), I think it's a pretty solid album, especially considering its length.

Wow! We agree on a few things!! Hell frozeth over.. :) It's something to build on...

[HomerMcvie]

Nobody asked you, now go fix your swimming pool or something.... :p:xoxo:

It's Indiana. My pool is closed. I can fix lots of things, but not aging voices in my favorite band. I now think Stevie is stronger than Lindsey. On this last tour, the backup singers sang most of his chorus parts, while he just did the responses.

I need one more album, and one more tour. Then they need to go their own way. I mean, I'd go see them forever, but they should bow out gracefully, before they all look like Keef.

[nicole21290]

while i agree that Stevie's sound / droning voice / possible lack of emotion is evident on SYW, i'm not quite sure whether that's a result of too much or too little Lindsey's influence.

just on the bases of watching that Destiny Rules document - he seemed to have been more interested in mending the fences / repairing a relationship and letting her feel his support, unlike during their younger heyday. during Rumours / Tusk / Mirage / Tango years he was not afraid - and probably really enjoyed - telling her what exactly is wrong with her songs and how they should sound. during SYW and more recent times, as you said, he doesn't have all that love/hate emotional investment in her anymore, he's more interested in repairing the relationship, so he is more interested in letting her run with whatever she wants to do with the songs. which results in less of his influence and less of his vision for her songs.

remember in Tusk doc when they are working on Angel and he says "IF we even use your melody" or something like that? i can never imagine him saying something like that these days. and she would never let him, either. so SYW Stevie songs may be a result of too little Lindsey influence and his holding back to tell her exactly what he thinks of her songs. :shrug:

all speculation, same as yours. but that's my impression from that Destiny Rules doc.

also quite possibly, she is not nearly as open to let her emotions and guards down anymore, like she was when she was young, drunk, and high - especially around someone like Lindsey whose shadow and influence on her success she seemed to have been trying to get out of most of her musical career.

which all leads me to agree with you - while Lindsey and the rest of the band should work with Stevie on her songs (if she has any) and make sure there is a cohesive sound to the album, there should be also another producer brought in, who will not have the same baggage Lindsey has with Stevie, and can say whatever he/she thinks.

I thought Mick's comments about SYW in his recent autobiography were quite interesting, actually.

"His self-sufficiency proved to be a bigger problem for Stevie than he could have imagined. It made her feel apart and a bit of an outsider when it came to writing. As the only other songwriter in the band, Stevie had thought she and Lindsey were going to have a new and closer creative partnership. But instead, she felt separated from the proceedings, and that was not good. In retrospect, Lindsey has said that he brought in too much of a preconceived vision and if given the chance, he’d not do that again, because it alienated her."

He then went on to speak about what changed after that:

"Lindsey began writing differently than he had in the past; he would bring us and Stevie demos that were spare ideas, recorded simply, allowing plenty of space for all of us to contribute. It also left room for a new story to be created between the two of them, or an old one to be picked up again."

And:

"Lindsey’s vision for Fleetwood Mac without Christine became fully realised in the decade after Say You Will. He and Stevie had been able to resume where Buckingham Nicks left off, and in some ways revive what was subsumed by Fleetwood Mac. Without Chris in the band, their performance style changed, and their vocal harmonies grew closer to how they were in their early days together. I think the Extended Play EP and our 2013 tour showcased just how much the band has grown into that groove, which has been a wonderful connective bridge for Stevie and Lindsey to explore."

[elle]

I thought Mick's comments about SYW in his recent autobiography were quite interesting, actually.

"His self-sufficiency proved to be a bigger problem for Stevie than he could have imagined. It made her feel apart and a bit of an outsider when it came to writing. As the only other songwriter in the band, Stevie had thought she and Lindsey were going to have a new and closer creative partnership. But instead, she felt separated from the proceedings, and that was not good. In retrospect, Lindsey has said that he brought in too much of a preconceived vision and if given the chance, he’d not do that again, because it alienated her."

He then went on to speak about what changed after that:

"Lindsey began writing differently than he had in the past; he would bring us and Stevie demos that were spare ideas, recorded simply, allowing plenty of space for all of us to contribute. It also left room for a new story to be created between the two of them, or an old one to be picked up again."

thanks, interesting comments speaking again of his searching for some kind of reconciliation with her in different ways - and none of them working as far as she is concerned.

she expected him to work close with her on (his?) songwriting during SYW (even though they all knew he was bringing basically already fully flashed out songs that were supposed to be on his solo album!?), yet she came to the studio months after he and the rest of them were working on the new album and after she gave them her songs to work on them in her absence. when that didn't work out as a songwriting approach, and since SYW, he tried several different ways, even with his own songs and not just hers ("he would bring us and Stevie demos that were spare ideas, recorded simply, allowing plenty of space for all of us to contribute", and she was still reluctant to even say yes to recording every one of those times (and finally, about a year after they started the process, spent 2 days adding her vocals to 2 of his songs and recording an old BN song for EP).

so there is definitely a disconnect there, which have not been mended since SYW, no matter what strategy Lindsey and the band tried, and even with Christine back. maybe now with Stevie finally agreeing to the new album some of that has been resolved?

[elle]

Maybe they've worked it out by now. Say you Will Was 12 years ago (!!) and they've had a few tours to develop a better working relationship and Christine is back (!!).

i hope you are right. :nod:

there was definitely still a disconnect before the tour in 2014 and during US legs of the OWTS tour, even with Christine back. but maybe all was finally resolved some time during the last few shows in Australia or NZ and that's why we now finally have a statement from Stevie (interestingly not strongly publicized or amplified?) that there will be a new FM album.

if Stevie contributes some songs, i'm still hoping for an extra producer who can help mediate.

[KenB]

You like What's the World Coming To more than Come or Miranda?

I do, yes. For me, WTWCT is a great, fun song to sing along with -- a catchy, melodic, albeit rather lightweight way to start the album. I enjoy it much more than Miranda or Come.

I don't actually hate Miranda or Come; I just don't find that I return to them often. Come is a very ambitious song -- its complicated arrangement and intense emotion are impressive, but for me it doesn't fit with the rest of Say You Will AT ALL. It would have made more sense on one of Lindsey's solo albums. It's so clearly a song that Stevie would hate, and that lacks a place for her to take part in musically, that there's just nothing Fleetwood Mac-ish about it.

Miranda isn't awful; I like Lindsey's guitar in it, but the melody feels monotone and a bit boring.

[jbrownsjr]

I do, yes. For me, WTWCT is a great, fun song to sing along with -- a catchy, melodic, albeit rather lightweight way to start the album. I enjoy it much more than Miranda or Come.

I don't actually hate Miranda or Come; I just don't find that I return to them often. Come is a very ambitious song -- its complicated arrangement and intense emotion are impressive, but for me it doesn't fit with the rest of Say You Will AT ALL. It would have made more sense on one of Lindsey's solo albums. It's so clearly a song that Stevie would hate, and that lacks a place for her to take part in musically, that there's just nothing Fleetwood Mac-ish about it.

Miranda isn't awful; I like Lindsey's guitar in it, but the melody feels monotone and a bit boring.

Fair enough.... we have different ideas about FMac.. but that's the norm..

[jbrownsjr]

i hope you are right. :nod:

there was definitely still a disconnect before the tour in 2014 and during US legs of the OWTS tour, even with Christine back. but maybe all was finally resolved some time during the last few shows in Australia or NZ and that's why we now finally have a statement from Stevie (interestingly not strongly publicized or amplified?) that there will be a new FM album.

if Stevie contributes some songs, i'm still hoping for an extra producer who can help mediate.

It's ironic, you would think that having Christine out of the picture in 2003 it would some how give them room to be themselves again. They just don't see eye to eye musically or in life. And the EP was so telling of the disconnect. Especially without a Stevie track. I know they did Without You, but it really seemed thrown together and the vocal isn't pleasant to my ears.

Christine's return has really been, in my mind, the bridge between B/N and lighting a fire under them for new tour, new music and having the firefly magic happen. They seem to be alive, again!

[lilyfee]

:laugh:

I don't mean magic in the sense of making Stevie's songs better than they are, but rather the magic that happens when two people who get along and like each other create something, and they put their best into it, and you can hear it.

From what I saw in the Destiny Rules doc, Lindsey's big mistake was suggesting Stevie edit her lyrics. He was kind of bossy from there on out, from the situation with the producer, to the record label, etc.

I love the songs on Say You Will but I don't like the poppy, too-slick 2000s sound of it.

I think Lindsey works the best on Stevie's songs, but only in his amazing guitar work and their chemistry as musical partners -- he has the ability to elevate her songs to a whole new level. I don't always feel the same about his producing skills, especially when he adds too much. I really appreciate the FM sound up to maybe Mirage, after which it begins to really sound stuck in a certain decade. :distress:

[bombaysaffires]

An outside producer would take the pressure off both of them, but honestly, I think they'll let Lindsey do it so they don't have to pay someone.

.


They pay Lindsey.

He does not produce their stuff for free.

He gets the producer's fee and he gets the producer's cut of the royalties.

He's not dumb, and even if he were, he has his own manager, lawyers, etc. who would not agree to him doing all that for free.

Stevie has been quoted in the past as saying because of his producer royalties he's gotten more money than the others.

Bands may start out as doing it for love but it's business and that stuff ends fast.

[Say You Will]

I respect your opinion but just wanted to say that to me SYW is a very good album and I am glad to have all those songs. I would always welcome another double album from FM.That's a whole slew new songs for us to enjoy the rest of our lives. Music that we deserve.

Thank You.

[KarmaContestant]

They pay Lindsey.

He does not produce their stuff for free.

He gets the producer's fee and he gets the producer's cut of the royalties.

He's not dumb, and even if he were, he has his own manager, lawyers, etc. who would not agree to him doing all that for free.

Stevie has been quoted in the past as saying because of his producer royalties he's gotten more money than the others.

Bands may start out as doing it for love but it's business and that stuff ends fast.

Let me rephrase that so you understand the intent of what I was saying:

An outside producer would take the pressure off both of them, but honestly, I think they'll let Lindsey do it so they don't have to pay someone else, who might cost more.

[aleuzzi]

Let me rephrase that so you understand the intent of what I was saying:

An outside producer would take the pressure off both of them, but honestly, I think they'll let Lindsey do it so they don't have to pay someone else, who might cost more.

I don't think cost has much to do with it. Lindsey has produced so much of the band's work because they have been largely successful under his guardianship. An outside producer might, in theory, make Stevie feel more comfortable, but the reality is that the best FM projects are homegrown. This is partially because these five people together are idiosyncratic and difficult to tamp down.

For all its flaws, SYW turned out to be a really rewarding project, perhaps the band's most substantial offering since Tusk.

I doubt an outside producer will be brought in, as Christine and Lindsey have already worked on nine songs as a team. At most, someone buffer might be brought in to negotiate drama between Stevie and Lindsey, but this album--if it ever sees the friggin light of day--will most likely be a Lindsey/FM production...

[KarmaContestant]

I doubt an outside producer will be brought in, as Christine and Lindsey have already worked on nine songs as a team. At most, someone buffer might be brought in to negotiate drama between Stevie and Lindsey, but this album--if it ever sees the friggin light of day--will most likely be a Lindsey/FM production...

This is my expectation, too, but it's fun to speculate! :nod:

[bombaysaffires]

It's ironic, you would think that having Christine out of the picture in 2003 it would some how give them room to be themselves again. They just don't see eye to eye musically or in life. And the EP was so telling of the disconnect.


I felt this way about SYW.

[jbrownsjr]

I felt this way about SYW.

When Twisted was about to come out... I thought.. "Wow!! B/N together." I ran and bought the whole album so I could listen to the song. I remember being disappointed they listed it as Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham vs. B/N.

And of course I was wanting that amazing chemistry they had on B/N, White Album, and Rumours... And I remember being so disappointed.. There's a disconnect that I hear, just like there is on SYW and the EP.
There's a 2011 Wiltern version of Soldier's Angel that I can barely get through. Mostly because of the droning.

I wish they would sit down and write together in the studio like Christine and Lindsey do. Or even the three of them would write something together.
Make some magic and quit marketing yourselves on the past. It doesn't work musically. It does work dollar wise because their relationship sells.

[Macfanforever]

I'll be glad to see this released in LP only.Hahahahaha.Just to bust stones with the digital fans.Just to show them what quality sound is and not that horrible tinny digital sound with artifacts swishing around in the music to make it sound like crap.Sorry .I could not resist.LOL................It must be the apple cider.LOL................................

[jbrownsjr]

I'll be glad to see this released in LP only.Hahahahaha.Just to bust stones with the digital fans.Just to show them what quality sound is and not that horrible tinny digital sound with artifacts swishing around in the music to make it sound like crap.Sorry .I could not resist.LOL................It must be the apple cider.LOL................................

I remember how good LP's sounded on the speakers... especially with good woofers...

[Macfanforever]

I remember how good LP's sounded on the speakers... especially with good woofers...

I agree 100 percent.

[iamnotafraid]

I agree 100 percent.

I've bought more vinyl in the past two years
than the previous twenty combined.

[Macfanforever]

I've bought more vinyl in the past two years
than the previous twenty combined.

Yes. The same here excluding the bulk freebies I've received in the last few years.I'm so happy vinyl is coming back.People are waking up and noticing they are better then digital.

[MikeVielhaber]

I'll be glad to see this released in LP only.Hahahahaha.Just to bust stones with the digital fans.Just to show them what quality sound is and not that horrible tinny digital sound with artifacts swishing around in the music to make it sound like crap.Sorry .I could not resist.LOL................It must be the apple cider.LOL................................

What about CD? Plus I'm sure most people don't own a turn table. I've never in my life had one or used one.

[KarmaContestant]

Plus I'm sure most people don't own a turn table. I've never in my life had one or used one.

You are missing out!!

I always likened the sound of a record / turntable to real-life voices and instruments. When I play a CD, it sounds to my ears like a perfect, cold, crisp recording. But when I play a well mastered record, if I close my eyes it almost sounds warm, like the band is playing live, there, with me.

Records just sound more real. It's difficult to explain any other way.

[Macfanforever]

What about CD? Plus I'm sure most people don't own a turn table. I've never in my life had one or used one.

They were crap when they first came out.They've gotten better over the years.For current digital releases with no vinyl .I rather have the CD then any downloaded music off the internet.Its like throwing money out in thin air without getting a physical copy of it.And most digital downloads sound like crap through a good system.They are great for portable use like an Ipod.


You are missing out!!

I always likened the sound of a record / turntable to real-life voices and instruments. When I play a CD, it sounds to my ears like a perfect, cold, crisp recording. But when I play a well mastered record, if I close my eyes it almost sounds warm, like the band is playing live, there, with me.

Records just sound more real. It's difficult to explain any other way.

I agree.You get the warm sound from vinyl.I also love looking at the artwork without using a magnifying glass .


If FM ever releases this Loooooong awaited album.I hope they make a LP version.

[AncientQueen]

I don't like remastered records that much. I love hearing the natural habitat in and for which the songs were recorded - vinyl. After5 yearswithout a turntable, I now do not listen to CDs anymore. It's vinyl or mp3.

[Macfanforever]

I forgot to add.If anybody needs a new turntable .The best thing to do is finding a 1950's to 1980's old vintage good working one with a good cartridge and needle .Technics ,Pioneer ,Garrard ,BSR is just a few great name brands. I would not trust any of these cheaply made new ones on good vinyl.

Fred Flintstone record player.

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You can find them at Fleamarkets,Tag sales ,Ebay,Craigslist ,Your relatives and friends and neighbors maybe for free.

Sorry.Right back on topic.


We got to remember .We are dealing with the Mac.Like wine when it ages .In time they will shine with a killer album with all 5 on it with great music to enjoy for rest of out lives.

[KarmaContestant]

I forgot to add.If anybody needs a new turntable .The best thing to do is finding a 1950's to 1980's old vintage good working one with a good cartridge and needle .Technics ,Pioneer ,Garrard ,BSR is just a few great name brands. I would not trust any of these cheaply made new ones on good vinyl.



I'm using a cheapy from Best Buy. Sony, but only 99 bucks. I've had it for a few years and it works well, but I'm planning an upgrade in 2016.

The options range from $400 up to $10K, but I can't fathom spending more than a few hundred for a turntable. MusicDirect has one that is THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND dollars!


http://www.musicdirect.com/c-529-turntables.aspx

[WayOfTheDragon]

You can find them at Fleamarkets,Tag sales ,Ebay,Craigslist ,Your relatives and friends and neighbors maybe for free.


About a year and a half ago, my friend was moving to a new apartment and was going to get rid of his stereo, and he said I could have it. It's an all-in-one stereo with a turntable, two cassette decks, a radio and a receiver. It must be from the 1980s, since it doesn't have a CD player (but I connected an AUX cable so that I can play digital files or CDs through it if I really want to). Since he gave it to me, I've been listening to records (and cassettes!) a lot, and it really is my favorite way to listen to music. Analog sound is more satisfying to my ears. There are a few used record stores in my area that let me trade in old stuff (CDs, DVDs, etc.) in exchange for store credit, so now I can spend hours browsing at the music store just like I used to do when I was a kid. It's pretty much my main hobby these days! :laugh: I've been able to get many near-mint condition Mac-related albums and tapes (not to mention lots of other artists) for free or very cheaply, including Tusk (on vinyl and cassette), and Mick Fleetwood's The Visitor album, which I'd never even heard until now.

[Macfanforever]

I'm using a cheapy from Best Buy. Sony, but only 99 bucks. I've had it for a few years and it works well, but I'm planning an upgrade in 2016.

The options range from $400 up to $10K, but I can't fathom spending more than a few hundred for a turntable. MusicDirect has one that is THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND dollars!


http://www.musicdirect.com/c-529-turntables.aspx

They can keep the one for $38 thousand dollars unless its gold plated with Stevie's or Mac's name on it and they once owned it.

About a year and a half ago, my friend was moving to a new apartment and was going to get rid of his stereo, and he said I could have it. It's an all-in-one stereo with a turntable, two cassette decks, a radio and a receiver. It must be from the 1980s, since it doesn't have a CD player (but I connected an AUX cable so that I can play digital files or CDs through it if I really want to). Since he gave it to me, I've been listening to records (and cassettes!) a lot, and it really is my favorite way to listen to music. Analog sound is more satisfying to my ears. There are a few used record stores in my area that let me trade in old stuff (CDs, DVDs, etc.) in exchange for store credit, so now I can spend hours browsing at the music store just like I used to do when I was a kid. It's pretty much my main hobby these days! :laugh: I've been able to get many near-mint condition Mac-related albums and tapes (not to mention lots of other artists) for free or very cheaply, including Tusk (on vinyl and cassette), and Mick Fleetwood's The Visitor album, which I'd never even heard until now.

Some of those all in one compact stereos from the 1970's and 80's work great .I have a 1970's Realistic from Radio shack which sounds great and it has a BSR turntable in it.I rather use one of those then a USB record player.Just hook the line out from the stereo to a RCA to a 1/8 inch stereo plug wire and plug that into you sound line input on your computer or laptop,dont plug it into the computer mike jack or take the audio out of the speaker output.It might burn something out or it will overload and sound distorted.

Easy to adjust sound level using your recording software prog.

[secret love]

I am glad to hear that Stevie is on board for the new album. I wonder if she will write new material or take some songs from the vault. Space Needle would be a good choice.

What I am waiting for now is a public announcement by the band or their management about when the album will be released and what it will be called. That's when I will start to get really excited.

[Nick]

Mick Fleetwood ‏@MickFleetwood 1h1 hour ago

Happy New Year everyone! Much to come in 2016.... #TheMacIsBack

[welcomechris]

Mick Fleetwood ‏@MickFleetwood 1h1 hour ago

Happy New Year everyone! Much to come in 2016.... #TheMacIsBack

aka new album

[Macfanforever]

Mick Fleetwood ‏@MickFleetwood 1h1 hour ago

Happy New Year everyone! Much to come in 2016.... #TheMacIsBack

We will see about that.

I know I had some unspiked eggnog in my bowl of bran flakes/rice krispees combo cereal tonight.After reading this from Mick ,Maybe the nog was spiked from the store.LOL......................

[michelej1]

Much to come? We thought this would be a quiet year. I'm excited. What they are planning may never come to pass, but I'd be happy just to hear whispers about what they intend for 2016.

Michele

[secret love]

Mick Fleetwood ‏@MickFleetwood 1h1 hour ago

Happy New Year everyone! Much to come in 2016.... #TheMacIsBack

That's great but I hope Mick tweets something a bit more specific!

I still think they might announce some more tour dates for 2016...maybe another leg of US/Canada shows.

If they do tour in 2016 I really hope that it is in support of a new album. Only time will tell.

[Wdm6789]

I'm interested to see what Fleetwood Mac could come up with these days. I just would rather not ever see any of their new songs live. If I pay $400-$500 a ticket for floor seats, I want all 20+ songs on the set list to be songs that I love and can sing along to.

[FuzzyPlum]

I'm interested to see what Fleetwood Mac could come up with these days. I just would rather not ever see any of their new songs live. If I pay $400-$500 a ticket for floor seats, I want all 20+ songs on the set list to be songs that I love and can sing along to.

Complete opposite for me. I'd pay good money to see/hear new material. In fact, I'm not sure I'd pay again to go and see them without new songs (at least, not for high price tickets). Sadly they probably won't play more than 5 new songs.

[sue]

Complete opposite for me. I'd pay good money to see/hear new material. In fact, I'm not sure I'd pay again to go and see them without new songs (at least, not for high price tickets). Sadly they probably won't play more than 5 new songs.

Agreed, I wouldn't go to see them again without N-E-W music, unless it was a last tour...

[BLY]

That's why I didn't see them on their last tour ( No new music) It was the first tour I missed since 1978.

[Wdm6789]

Complete opposite for me. I'd pay good money to see/hear new material. In fact, I'm not sure I'd pay again to go and see them without new songs (at least, not for high price tickets). Sadly they probably won't play more than 5 new songs.


Five new songs? That's way too many. I was thinking if they have to play new songs live, there should be no more than three.

[Montclare]

For a future tour for me, I'd want a couple of brand new songs mixed in with the greatest hits, but would especially like to see more deep cuts. I'd really love to see Angel, The Ledge, Brown Eyes, IDWTK, etc.

[dawn_amanda]

I would wait to hear these new songs before deciding how many or few we want to see live! They could be amazing! :thumbsup:

[elle]

I would wait to hear these new songs before deciding how many or few we want to see live! They could be amazing! :thumbsup:

yup - Sad Angel was a highlight of 2013 tour and made it so much less stale! and many reviews commented how surprisingly everyone upfront knew all the words and sang the whole completely new - and at first even unreleased - song with the band.

that said, when did the thread about the possibility of the new album become yet another discussion about who wants to hear what songs on tour?? :rolleyes:

if they are supporting new album, FM usually play about 6 new songs.
if you don't want to hear new songs just same ole hits, don't go - you had last 20-40 years of tours and countless DVDs with all those same songs instead.

[Macfan4life]

Of course I would love to hear new material. But I rather hear the songs they rarely do live or never did live before on older albums. I know that wont happen. Most of us on this board are true fans that appreciate those songs. But sadly most people in the concert hall run to the bathroom during the best songs live. I would love to hear old Christine songs (pre-Stevie and Lindsey) live but I know that is not going to happen :(

[MikeVielhaber]

yup - Sad Angel was a highlight of 2013 tour and made it so much less stale! and many reviews commented how surprisingly everyone upfront knew all the words and sang the whole completely new - and at first even unreleased - song with the band.

that said, when did the thread about the possibility of the new album become yet another discussion about who wants to hear what songs on tour?? :rolleyes:

if they are supporting new album, FM usually play about 6 new songs.
if you don't want to hear new songs just same ole hits, don't go - you had last 20-40 years of tours and countless DVDs with all those same songs instead.

Yes, I've skipped concerts from bands I enjoy for lack of change in the set list from previous tours. I like hearing new stuff, provided the new stuff is good, but I don't have concern that these guys will have enough good enough material to play live.

[BLY]

yup - Sad Angel was a highlight of 2013 tour and made it so much less stale! and many reviews commented how surprisingly everyone upfront knew all the words and sang the whole completely new - and at first even unreleased - song with the band.

that said, when did the thread about the possibility of the new album become yet another discussion about who wants to hear what songs on tour?? :rolleyes:

if they are supporting new album, FM usually play about 6 new songs.
if you don't want to hear new songs just same ole hits, don't go - you had last 20-40 years of tours and countless DVDs with all those same songs instead.


That's what was so great about the Say You Will Tour. All those new songs that were played.I'm glad that the " Greatest hits Tour" is out of the way......... it's time for a tour to promote a new album.

[michelej1]

I'm interested to see what Fleetwood Mac could come up with these days. I just would rather not ever see any of their new songs live. If I pay $400-$500 a ticket for floor seats, I want all 20+ songs on the set list to be songs that I love and can sing along to.

Unless the album comes out after the tour has started (which absurdly happened with Lindsey's tour), you'll have ample time to learn the new songs, love them and sing along to them.

Michele

[BLY]

I was thinking about all the songs that Lindsey and Christine have already recorded and whatever Stevie will be contributing I'm really expecting a 21 track release. I hope its sequenced like Tusk. I love the way it was done. You have a nice balance to start the album of all three singers. Then it's Heavy with Lindsey and Stevie tunes and then after nine tracks Christine returns and then the album closes with the same kind of balance it opened with.

[aleuzzi]

If they go out on tour again without an album of new songs (or at least an EP) I will swear off them for good.

[shackin'up]

If they go out on tour again without an album of new songs (or at least an EP) I will swear off them for good.
No you won't. Too late. Same for me. We are going to suffer with them until it is over.

[jbrownsjr]

No you won't. Too late. Same for me. We are going to suffer with them until it is over.

And they will open with When I See You Again. And you'll have to sit throught it. :shocked:

[Macfanforever]

I say it again.I could care less if they record or not.I'm not going to condemn the band for their doings. Who said it was mandatory to put out a album.I look at it as a bonus. I would love another fresh new album like all of us want but get over it if they dont.

[HomerMcvie]

No you won't. Too late. Same for me. We are going to suffer with them until it is over.

The soundtrack of our lives...


Even if it's stuck on repeat!

[lilyfee]

I would hope that the set list would at least change, with or without a new album!

[secret love]

I would hope that the set list would at least change, with or without a new album!

It says on the band's website in the Events section "There is nothing to display yet, check back soon" which makes me think there is a looming announcement of more tour dates.

I hope to hear a lot more from the band about their plans for 2016. Sadly there hasn't been any notable Fleetwood Mac news since the interview with Stevie which was at least a fortnight ago.

I guess all five of them are relaxing and recuperating after their world tour. I wonder if Stevie has been writing new songs on her piano, maybe in that house she bought and spent just two days in last year.

[MikeVielhaber]

I would hope that the set list would at least change, with or without a new album!

I think the majority of the set list is taken up by songs which they consider "must plays". The portion of the set list that would change is likely very small. IMO, if those songs are simply other old songs I'd rather not go.

[jcalzaretta]

They don't do much with the set list at all. Adding Sisters of the Moon was probably "out there" for a Mac tour. And that is so interesting considering the release of the Tusk box set where they were experimental. You would think they would mix up the set list every once in a while. But when it comes to touring, it is mainly the hits and very fine tuned performances of them. Don't get me wrong. Loved the tour. But it is nice to mix things up a bit.

[KarmaContestant]

I was thinking about all the songs that Lindsey and Christine have already recorded and whatever Stevie will be contributing I'm really expecting a 21 track release. I hope its sequenced like Tusk. I love the way it was done. You have a nice balance to start the album of all three singers. Then it's Heavy with Lindsey and Stevie tunes and then after nine tracks Christine returns and then the album closes with the same kind of balance it opened with.

It's funny you mention this. I do not like the way Tusk was sequenced. :laugh: For exactly the reasons you state. I can't believe there is literally an entire Buckingham-Nicks album between two Christine tracks!

[aleuzzi]

No you won't. Too late. Same for me. We are going to suffer with them until it is over.

I'm afraid you're probably right.

[jbrownsjr]

Carnival Begin
Second Hand News
The Chain
You Make Lovin Fun
Dreams
Say You Love Me
New Christine/Lindsey Duet
Gold Dust Woman
Blue Letter
Rhiannon
Big Love
Landslide
Love In Store
New Stevie Song
I'm So Afraid
New Christine Song
Sara
New Lindsey Song
Gypsy
Tusk
Don't Stop
World Turning

Go Your Own Way
Songbird

[FuzzyPlum]

Carnival Begin
Second Hand News
The Chain
You Make Lovin Fun
Dreams
Say You Love Me
New Christine/Lindsey Duet
Gold Dust Woman
Blue Letter
Rhiannon
Big Love
Landslide
Love In Store
New Stevie Song
I'm So Afraid
New Christine Song
Sara
New Lindsey Song
Gypsy
Tusk
Don't Stop
World Turning

Go Your Own Way
Songbird

If we are going to have the hits then there needs to be a place for Everywhere. I was sceptical about it based on past performances but it turned out to be one of the highlights for me. An absloute must do. Swap that for Say You Love Me and Why for Love In Store.
Also, don't we have an idea of a few more of the 'in-the-can' song titles in addition to Carnival Begin? Anyone?

[WayOfTheDragon]

Assuming that they release a new album before they tour again, I expect that the next tour set list will be the same as the OWTS set list, with only a few modifications:

I Know I'm Not Wrong/ Bleed to Love Her will be replaced by a new Lindsey song.

Over My Head/ Think About Me will be replaced by a new Christine song.

They'll do a new Stevie song in the spot where Seven Wonders was (for some reason, I think they'll keep Sara in the set).

What else would they change? The Rumours era songs aren't going anywhere. Tusk, I'm So Afraid, Rhiannon, Say You Love Me, acoustic Big Love, and Landslide aren't going anywhere. Maybe they'll replace Gypsy or Everywhere. :shrug: I don't want them to get rid of Little Lies, which was my favorite part of the last tour.

My personal "wish list" songs would be: Hold Me, Isn't It Midnight, Angel, Blue Letter, Eyes of the World, That's Enough for Me, and any of Christine's Tusk songs.

[jbrownsjr]

If we are going to have the hits then there needs to be a place for Everywhere. I was sceptical about it based on past performances but it turned out to be one of the highlights for me. An absloute must do. Swap that for Say You Love Me and Why for Love In Store.
Also, don't we have an idea of a few more of the 'in-the-can' song titles in addition to Carnival Begin? Anyone?

We do.. But I don't know which singer sings them. It's either Lindsey or Christine. I just did Carnival Begin because it had begin in the title.

I loved Everywhere, too. I hope they don't do Over My Head. I'd rather hear Sugar Daddy.. lol

[jbrownsjr]

Assuming that they release a new album before they tour again, I expect that the next tour set list will be the same as the OWTS set list, with only a few modifications:

I Know I'm Not Wrong/ Bleed to Love Her will be replaced by a new Lindsey song.

Over My Head/ Think About Me will be replaced by a new Christine song.

They'll do a new Stevie song in the spot where Seven Wonders was (for some reason, I think they'll keep Sara in the set).

What else would they change? The Rumours era songs aren't going anywhere. Tusk, I'm So Afraid, Rhiannon, Say You Love Me, acoustic Big Love, and Landslide aren't going anywhere. Maybe they'll replace Gypsy or Everywhere. :shrug: I don't want them to get rid of Little Lies, which was my favorite part of the last tour.

My personal "wish list" songs would be: Hold Me, Isn't It Midnight, Angel, Blue Letter, Eyes of the World, That's Enough for Me, and any of Christine's Tusk songs.

Wow, yes!! Dream set list...

[Wdm6789]

My god, we're already doing set list speculations?

The one song that really deserves a comeback is Hold Me.

[BLY]

I see these 5 songs to be dropped. If they release a double cd which I think they will do, they will do at least 5 new songs. I think this is the only ones that can be dropped from the most recent set;




The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Dreams
Second Hand News - could replace
Rhiannon
Everywhere
Bleed to Love Her - replace
Tusk
Sara- could replace
Say You Love Me
Big Love
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
Think About Me- replace
Gypsy
Little Lies
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Go Your Own Way

Encore:
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs -could replace
Songbird

[jbrownsjr]

The way the Stevie sang Silver Springs during the Dance show was incredible. I'll never need to hear it again.

For me, it captured everything I loved about B/N. And then with Christine's piano and harmony. It had so much passion and every lyric was kept in the moment by Stevie. Further, Lindsey and Christine worked so well off of Stevie with vocals and piano/guitar.

Every other performance that I've seen is always second.

[BLY]

The way the Stevie sang Silver Springs during the Dance show was incredible. I'll never need to hear it again.

For me, it captured everything I loved about B/N. And then with Christine's piano and harmony. It had so much passion and every lyric was kept in the moment by Stevie. Further, Lindsey and Christine worked so well off of Stevie with vocals and piano/guitar.

Every other performance that I've seen is always second.


Silver Springs was fantastic on the Dance tour. I think it should have been dropped after that tour. It's one of my all time favorite MAC songs but it's definetly not an easy song for Stevie to do these days.

[aleuzzi]

The way the Stevie sang Silver Springs during the Dance show was incredible. I'll never need to hear it again.

For me, it captured everything I loved about B/N. And then with Christine's piano and harmony. It had so much passion and every lyric was kept in the moment by Stevie. Further, Lindsey and Christine worked so well off of Stevie with vocals and piano/guitar.

Every other performance that I've seen is always second.

That was a revelation. She nailed it and the band nailed it. Everything worked. I've rarely seen her embody passion and vocal control so well before or since.

I remember when I first saw the taped show. When that song was through, I leapt out of my chair and cheered. It was so spontaneous. I felt sheer joy that something great had been accomplished.

I also remember being wowed by You Make Loving Fun, and really digging the new arrangement of Say You Love Me. I also loved Temporary One and Bleed to Love Her. But it was Silver Springs that stole the show.

[Wdm6789]

The way the Stevie sang Silver Springs during the Dance show was incredible. I'll never need to hear it again.

For me, it captured everything I loved about B/N. And then with Christine's piano and harmony. It had so much passion and every lyric was kept in the moment by Stevie. Further, Lindsey and Christine worked so well off of Stevie with vocals and piano/guitar.

Every other performance that I've seen is always second.

Silver Springs was fantastic on the Dance tour. I think it should have been dropped after that tour. It's one of my all time favorite MAC songs but it's definetly not an easy song for Stevie to do these days.


Except the back up singers kinda ruined the chorus. You can't even hear Christine and Lindsey.

[nicole21290]

Silver Springs was fantastic on the Dance tour. I think it should have been dropped after that tour. It's one of my all time favorite MAC songs but it's definetly not an easy song for Stevie to do these days.

Well, seven-year-old Australian me didn't see it on that tour. Or in 2004. Or 2009. Or 2013. So I'm VERY happy it stuck around, personally. Sounded good to me.

[jbrownsjr]

Well, seven-year-old Australian me didn't see it on that tour. Or in 2004. Or 2009. Or 2013. So I'm VERY happy it stuck around, personally. Sounded good to me.

It's good. Just not explosive with the same passion. And that's what happens when you have to sing or act something a zillion times. They are only human.
But yes, I'm so glad you got to see it. You share so many things on here and elsewhere. You deserve it.

[Kubrick2788]

As good as the version from The Dance is, I think the SYW version packs in the anger almost as well. If choosing between the two then it's The Dance but I think it still was pretty damn good in SYW shows. It was fiery. I always wonder what Sara would have been like on The Dance tour...

[jbrownsjr]

As good as the version from The Dance is, I think the SYW version packs in the anger almost as well. If choosing between the two then it's The Dance but I think it still was pretty damn good in SYW shows. It was fiery. I always wonder what Sara would have been like on The Dance tour...

Me too. I miss the upright piano for Sara.

[aleuzzi]

The band was rocking during the SYW tour. Fleetwood Mac often steams ahead with real purpose when they have a new album to promote. Even though they didn't do a hell of a lot of SYW songs on that tour, the new material seemed to give them an urgency almost entirely absent in the two subsequent tours--and even in this On with the Show celebration. This is precisely why I want to see a new album from them before I ever see them on the road again. The new music will undoubtedly light a fire under them. That's always exciting to see....

[aleuzzi]

By the way, did I mention how badly I want to see them release an album of new music? I don't know if I communicated that or not. :cool:

[jbrownsjr]

By the way, did I mention how badly I want to see them release an album of new music? I don't know if I communicated that or not. :cool:

It's pretty standard for musicians to make music. :shrug:

[Macfanforever]

My god, we're already doing set list speculations?

The one song that really deserves a comeback is Hold Me.

I agree 100 percent...........................................

[secondhandchain]

Keep coming to this thread expecting to see news on the new album but then I see posts about what songs they should do in concert. :shrug:

[Kubrick2788]

to tie this back to newer music and Hold Me, I hope that the Christine songs have the feeling of the Hold Me demo from the Mirage sessions. She does funky piano so well and maybe Lindsey will keep her songs a little more rough this time around. One can dream anyway. Maybe he'll fill them up with awkward whispers instead?

[michelej1]

Maybe he'll fill them up with awkward whispers instead?

Now, "Awkward Whispers" would be a good album title.

Michele

[HomerMcvie]

Now, "Awkward Whispers" would be a good album title.

Michele

It's a shame, I really think he has little voice left. When I saw them last, he was ONLY singing what he had to. The backup girls were singing pretty much all the choruses.

Chris seems to be the only one who still has "most" of her voice still intact.

[jbrownsjr]

It's a shame, I really think he has little voice left. When I saw them last, he was ONLY singing what he had to. The backup girls were singing pretty much all the choruses.

Chris seems to be the only one who still has "most" of her voice still intact.

Agreed... she was pitchy to me the first night.. but she improved so much by the third show that I had seen. Stevie was not pitchy at all. But, she only sings 4 notes.

[Montclare]

It's a shame, I really think he has little voice left. When I saw them last, he was ONLY singing what he had to. The backup girls were singing pretty much all the choruses.

Chris seems to be the only one who still has "most" of her voice still intact.

Yeah, live Christine did sound the best, but Lindsey still sounds (mostly) fine on albums. It seems to be only live, night after night, where he has an issue.

[lovethemac1]

When talking to Mick at a meet and greet, he commented that the person who has weathered the best, talent wise, was Lindsey. He said that it always amazes him how Lindsey can be on stage 100% of the time during the concerts, never take a break for long, and keep on "screaming at the top of his lungs, and keep his voice intact." I think those were his exact words. Maybe this last tour was just too much for the guy though?

[jbrownsjr]

When talking to Mick at a meet and greet, he commented that the person who has weathered the best, talent wise, was Lindsey. He said that it always amazes him how Lindsey can be on stage 100% of the time during the concerts, never take a break for long, and keep on "screaming at the top of his lungs, and keep his voice intact." I think those were his exact words. Maybe this last tour was just too much for the guy though?

I have to agree. I brought a friend to one of the shows and the highlight of the show for him was watching LB. Amazing energy.

[FuzzyPlum]

Lindsey's no spring chicken but I think this tour caught up with him. To be fair, a lot of his vocal work is 'shouty' so I can understand why he struggled. Christine started dodgy and then got better and better until the end of the Eurpean tour. Dont forget, they cancelled a couple of UK shows due to her voice problems and her singing at the Isle of Wight festival sounded quite poor. She was back on song for the London show I caught and it seems her voice for the Aus/NZ tour was great too.

Album:
I had to go back and look at the confirmed song titles; Carnival Begin, Red Sun and Too Far Gone.

If anyone is aware of any others I'd love to know.

[HomerMcvie]

Stevie was not pitchy at all. But, she only sings 4 notes.

I owe you a drink. Or 50! :xoxo:

[jbrownsjr]

I owe you a drink. Or 50! :xoxo:

Well, it's true. :shrug:

[tilthefirefades]

This will either be the best thing we've been dreaming for for years, or the saddest money grab since the last time an ancient band ran out of fuel. I hope for a Say You Will with some Christine added.

(I haven't posted in ages but a certain Chris alerted me to a new album)

[Macfan4life]

This will either be the best thing we've been dreaming for for years, or the saddest money grab since the last time an ancient band ran out of fuel. I hope for a Say You Will with some Christine added.

(I haven't posted in ages but a certain Chris alerted me to a new album)
Oh come on now. With the record industry today there is no money grab with a studio album. But I'm with you....I still have to pinch myself we are going to hear Christine McVie new songs! Say You Will is a pretty high standard. I just cant wait to hear Christine on every song or at least her influence on every song.

[louielouie2000]

This will either be the best thing we've been dreaming for for years, or the saddest money grab since the last time an ancient band ran out of fuel. I hope for a Say You Will with some Christine added.

(I haven't posted in ages but a certain Chris alerted me to a new album)

First of all, it's fantastic to see you posting again!

But yeah, I pretty much agree. However, I don't hold any hope of a new album being artistically palatable the way Say You Will was. Lindsey is steering the ship, and the songs he has released since Seeds We Sow have been middle of the road garbage. If you haven't heard Fleetwood Mac's Extended Play or his songs from the This is 40 soundtrack, do look them up. I think Lindsey is trying so hard to be mainstream in order to appeal to Stevie that he's totally lost his muse. With Christine being the poster child for inoffensive pop music, and Lindsey and Stevie racing to the middle of that road as well over the past decade, I just don't see how anything Fleetwood Mac might come up with could have any teeth. It'll all be one giant inoffensive compromise so they can pull off working together one last time.

[olive]

you'd think they'd make this list (maybe bump gwen stefani or mr kardashian)

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/45-most-anticipated-albums-of-2016-20160106

[jbrownsjr]

^^^ Radiohead.. I like them..

[KarmaContestant]

But yeah, I pretty much agree. However, I don't hold any hope of a new album being artistically palatable the way Say You Will was. Lindsey is steering the ship, and the songs he has released since Seeds We Sow have been middle of the road garbage. If you haven't heard Fleetwood Mac's Extended Play or his songs from the This is 40 soundtrack, do look them up. I think Lindsey is trying so hard to be mainstream in order to appeal to Stevie that he's totally lost his muse. With Christine being the poster child for inoffensive pop music, and Lindsey and Stevie racing to the middle of that road as well over the past decade, I just don't see how anything Fleetwood Mac might come up with could have any teeth. It'll all be one giant inoffensive compromise so they can pull off working together one last time.

Word.

I do wish it weren't going to be this way, though. It might sound redundant, but I want Tusk 2.0, but recorded with the foresight that *this is it*. I would hope that recording a final album would be cause for adventure, for unconventional material, for abandoning the formula.

[louielouie2000]

Word.

I do wish it weren't going to be this way, though. It might sounds redundant, but I want Tusk 2.0, but recorded with the foresight that *this is it*. I would hope that recording a final album would be cause for adventure, for unconventional material, for abandoning the formula.

My sentiments exactly. I loved Tusk so much for those exact reasons: it truly showcased just how divergent the 3 songwriters were. It showcased all of their strengths, and juxtaposed how different those were from each other. Yet because of the amount of material from each songwriter, it all somehow hung together. The musical waves would swell, break, recede, and repeat; it wasn't a consistently flowing stream of similar songs. Much more like a movie than a painting, even. :p

That's what I'd love to hear in a new album, too. Lindsey's sonic quirkiness contrasted with Christine's pop goodness, injected with Stevie's airy fairyness. :laugh: I think Say You Will was born of that same motive, but because of Christine's absence, suddenly Lindsey and Stevie found themselves trying to fill the accessible-pop role. Lindsey recorded What's the World Coming To; and Stevie submitted Say You Will. They both need to vacate that patch of real estate for a new album, and hand those keys back to it's queen, Christine. :D

[elle]

you'd think they'd make this list (maybe bump gwen stefani or mr kardashian)

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/45-most-anticipated-albums-of-2016-20160106

lol. they were among 5 or 10 most anticipated albums several times in the last few years. guess people finally gave up on them. :shrug: :p

[nicole21290]

From one of my anons on Tumblr. Thought I'd pass it on:

Hey I was the person in Maui asking about how to meet Mick! Well he had a meet and greet and I went and he's honestly such a nice guy. We talked for about 10 minutes and he told me that I should expect them to be on the road in about 18 months. He said that they were working on new music but as we know Stevie might not take part in it... Anyways not really a scoop but I wanted to share my experience!

[michelej1]

From one of my anons on Tumblr. Thought I'd pass it on:

Hey I was the person in Maui asking about how to meet Mick! Well he had a meet and greet and I went and he's honestly such a nice guy. We talked for about 10 minutes and he told me that I should expect them to be on the road in about 18 months. He said that they were working on new music but as we know Stevie might not take part in it... Anyways not really a scoop but I wanted to share my experience!

So, I take from this they plan to take their new music on the road, but knowing them... Michele

[FuzzyPlum]

From one of my anons on Tumblr. Thought I'd pass it on:

Hey I was the person in Maui asking about how to meet Mick! Well he had a meet and greet and I went and he's honestly such a nice guy. We talked for about 10 minutes and he told me that I should expect them to be on the road in about 18 months. He said that they were working on new music but as we know Stevie might not take part in it... Anyways not really a scoop but I wanted to share my experience!

Feeling a bit deflated. 18 months is a long time. Not that I am desperate for another tour but I can't see them releasing music without a tour on the horizon. It's looking like the album being released in the first part of 2017. 'Much to come in 2016' ...I can't really see what band-related stuff could happen this year apart from more 4-piece recording of an album that's already largely done.
Everytime there#s reason to be a bit excited about a snippet of information something else comes along and puts a damper on it.

[elle]

Feeling a bit deflated. 18 months is a long time. Not that I am desperate for another tour but I can't see them releasing music without a tour on the horizon. It's looking like the album being released in the first part of 2017. 'Much to come in 2016' ...I can't really see what band-related stuff could happen this year apart from more 4-piece recording of an album that's already largely done.
Everytime there#s reason to be a bit excited about a snippet of information something else comes along and puts a damper on it.

i don''t know. 18 months seems almost too fast to me. yes, we expected they will tour in 2017 because of the Rumours anniversary. and it will probably be more fall/end of 2017 (just like LB said they will start OWTS tour in summer 2014, but they started it at the very end of September).

so before OWTS they had almost 9 months to work on the new album. everyone here kept saying that was not enough time for SN to join etc. so now they have double that time, and album mostly done. i wonder how long before everyone says that's not enough time for Stevie since she will want some solo projects etc etc.... and we -- again -- don't actually see that album?

so frankly, tour in 18 months if we actually get that album before that, and that tour is to support it, seems almost overly optimistic to me - considering Stevie's timelines with FM [non] commitments we've seen in the last few years.

[michelej1]

i don''t know. 18 months seems almost too fast to me. yes, we expected they will tour in 2017 because of the Rumours anniversary. and it will probably be more fall/end of 2017 (just like LB said they will start OWTS tour in summer 2014, but they started it at the very end of September).


18 months is too soon and it makes me feel a bit deflated like they are still more interested in the touring money than in making music. Because if they plan to tour in 18 months, I have to think that it's going to be a shortcut album. At this point, "EP" sounds like an expletive to me. I want a full album, fully fleshed out album.

Michele

[iamnotafraid]

If Say You Will is the bar that the new album
will be judged by...

[MikeVielhaber]

18 months is too soon and it makes me feel a bit deflated like they are still more interested in the touring money than in making music. Because if they plan to tour in 18 months, I have to think that it's going to be a shortcut album. At this point, "EP" sounds like an expletive to me. I want a full album, fully fleshed out album.

Michele

But you have to remember that they've already put in a lot of work on the album. Touring in 18 months should be plenty of time for them to finish a full album.

[dawn_amanda]

Stevie was hardly on every song on the FM albums anyway. I would rather she was on it as much as possible but as this seems to have been her choice not to contribute up till now this time I can't complain! I am just excited to hopefully hear new music and see another tour...

[shackin'up]

If Say You Will is the bar that the new album
will be judged by...

In ten years SYW will stand out as a topheavy but basicly the only album that went for the artistic innovative stretch in their legacy since 75. Behind Tusk, that is.

[Macfanforever]

18 months is too soon and it makes me feel a bit deflated like they are still more interested in the touring money than in making music. Because if they plan to tour in 18 months, I have to think that it's going to be a shortcut album. At this point, "EP" sounds like an expletive to me. I want a full album, fully fleshed out album.

Michele

I agree.Alot of cash for touring and a handful of cash from album sales.I think the scale is weighing in on the touring side.They could atlease try some new tunes to feel out the crowd to see if they like the new tunes.Thats what they should of done on this last tour.

[elle]

In ten years SYW will stand out as a topheavy but basicly the only album that went for the artistic innovative stretch in their legacy since 75. Behind Tusk, that is.

yes.

because this last one, if it ever comes out, won't be it. we've heard Lindsey saying numerous times he was going for fleetwood mac-y, middle-of-the-road tunes and gave up on pushing the boundaries with the mac. his EP songs, however great or interesting, are along those lines too.

just to think that "fleetwood mac-y" album could have been out by 2013 the latest, and they could have had another one in the works and almost done with Christine now......... what a waste of time and talent, all that waiting around for one or the other member to come to the table.


plus, most FM fans don't like SYW, and only just recently warmed up to Tusk. they are doing their current album for the majority.

[BLY]

My guess is the album will drop in the summer and a fall tour will follow.

[jbrownsjr]

My guess is the album will drop in the summer and a fall tour will follow.

that's my guess, too

[michelej1]

plus, most FM fans don't like SYW, and only just recently warmed up to Tusk. they are doing their current album for the majority.

Well, I wouldn't say that people "just recently warmed up to Tusk." I mean, it didn't happen in 1979, true, but it has been embraced for a good 20-30 years now.

Michele

[iamnotafraid]

In ten years SYW will stand out as a topheavy but basicly the only album that went for the artistic innovative stretch in their legacy since 75. Behind Tusk, that is.

I'm not saying I don't like Say You Will at all.
I like much of Lindsey's work on there except
his vocals seem a little tired on some of the songs.

Stevie's the culprit here. Except for Goodbye Baby,
I wouldn't miss hearing any of her songs on the album.

I rarely listen to the album anymore.

[nicole21290]

I'm not saying I don't like Say You Will at all.
I like much of Lindsey's work on there except
his vocals seem a little tired on some of the songs.

Stevie's the culprit here. Except for Goodbye Baby,
I wouldn't miss hearing any of her songs on the album.

I rarely listen to the album anymore.

I listen to SYW more than any other Fleetwood Mac album, with Tusk a close second. While objectively I would never say it's their *best* album, it's easily in my top three favourites for listening to. I usually skip Silver Girl and occasionally skip What's The World Coming To? but I pretty much like it as a whole.

[Artemis]

I was thinking about this as I was driving today, I really hope if there is a new album Stevie is happy and actually sings the songs. If she uses her voice properly - like on Moonlight, Twisted and (especially) 24 Karat Gold, it's still a stunning instrument. If she just shows up and doesn't really try, her voice just sounds awful and bored.

[KarmaContestant]

Well hey. Maybe Fleetwood Mac won't release a boundary pushing, innovative album like Tusk.

That leaves them room for contrived, high gloss material like Rumours.

I'm ok with that. :nod:

[aleuzzi]

I'm looking for new music from these five people. It doesn't matter what slant they take; there's a natural chemistry between them, so even a potential middle-of-the road effort will be exciting. However, I honestly think the Buckingham-McVie material will be exciting. We'll see. Maybe....

[jbrownsjr]

I'm looking for new music from these five people. It doesn't matter what slant they take; there's a natural chemistry between them, so even a potential middle-of-the road effort will be exciting. However, I honestly think the Buckingham-McVie material will be exciting. We'll see. Maybe....

I love almost everything Buckhingham/McVie. Lindsey kept saying how the chemistry was better than ever. That is what makes me so anxious to hear it.

[Macfan4life]

I love almost everything Buckhingham/McVie. Lindsey kept saying how the chemistry was better than ever. That is what makes me so anxious to hear it.
They do have amazing chemistry. I love it when they get really creative and play around each other. I love how much they respect each other too. I once heard Lindsey say they play so well together because they come from opposite spheres. She is trained, he was not. She was heavy in the blues, he was more from folk and rock. But most important is how their voices blend together. Hold me, Don't Stop, Think About me.....they blend so well together that you sometimes forget there are 2 people singing.
I heard Stevie say once that she actually got jealous of Lindsey working with Christine when they sung World Turning on the White Album.

[vivfox]

They(Christine & Lindsey) do have amazing chemistry. But most important is how their voices blend together. Hold me, Don't Stop, Think About me.....they blend so well together that you sometimes forget there are 2 people singing.

Very true. For a long time back in the good ole 1970's, I could never tell which one of the two was singing the first verse in Don't Stop.

[Macfanforever]

I've been reading the comments on SYW.I personally enjoyed that album.It did great on the radio and they played the living crap out of it.

Also I agree with the Buckingham/McVie combo.They sound great.

[Say You Will]

Very true. For a long time back in the good ole 1970's, I could never tell which one of the two was singing the first verse in Don't Stop.

I miss the good ole 1970's with Lindsey's fro and the great harmonies.

[Say You Will]

I've been reading the comments on SYW.I personally enjoyed that album.It did great on the radio and they played the living crap out of it.

Also I agree with the Buckingham/McVie combo.They sound great.

I would have to agree!!:thumbsup:

[jbrownsjr]

I keep checking back here because I'm so excited about new music. :angel:

[FuzzyPlum]

Perhaps the recent passing of some of their contemporaries (if you can call them that) such Lemmy (70) and David Bowie (69) will serve as a catalyst for them to put their foot down a bit more.
(a metaphorical foot down on the accelerator as opposed to putting a foot down with SN- though that could work too).

[jbrownsjr]

Perhaps the recent passing of some of their contemporaries (if you can call them that) such Lemmy (70) and David Bowie (69) will serve as a catalyst for them to put their foot down a bit more.
(a metaphorical foot down on the accelerator as opposed to putting a foot down with SN- though that could work too).

They have nothing to lose but time. I think they should make a fantastic album of risk with a few hits scattered in the mix that make sense. I would love if LB did songs like Come or Red Rover.. while Christine did tunes like Isn't It Midnight and Brown Eyes and Stevie did songs like.. Bella Donna.. lol

[michelej1]

So, now Glenn dies in their sister band; he was only 67.

Yeah, we should have had that album last year. Time waits for no one. Michele

[michelej1]

I can't believe the Eagles can't tour with their founding member ever again. Needless to say, I am thankful we got to see the 5 Macsters onstage when we did. And they all looked good, even John.
Michele

[HomerMcvie]

I can't believe the Eagles can't tour with their founding member ever again. Needless to say, I am thankful we got to see the 5 Macsters onstage when we did. And they all looked good, even John.
Michele

I'm sure this is the end of The Eagles. Even though Don garnered a lot of the attention, it was Glenn's band. He was the band leader. The "lone arranger". I seriously can't imagine them going on without him.

[estranged4life]

I'm sure this is the end of The Eagles. Even though Don garnered a lot of the attention, it was Glenn's band. He was the band leader.

just like there will be no Motörhead without Lemmy...anything otherwise would be a travesty.

[elle]

I'm sure this is the end of The Eagles. Even though Don garnered a lot of the attention, it was Glenn's band. He was the band leader. The "lone arranger". I seriously can't imagine them going on without him.

i don't know too much about the eagles except hits on the radio, but i did see their recent documentary. what all were Don Felder's roles?

[bombaysaffires]

i don't know too much about the eagles except hits on the radio, but i did see their recent documentary. what all were Don Felder's roles?

Henley and Frey's whipping boy.

[SteveMacD]

I can't believe the Eagles can't tour with their founding member ever again. Needless to say, I am thankful we got to see the 5 Macsters onstage when we did. And they all looked good, even John.
Michele
I could see them getting Jackson Browne.

[michelej1]

I could see them getting Jackson Browne.

I see them going out on the road again at least time and doing a tribute setlist.

Michele

[HomerMcvie]

i don't know too much about the eagles except hits on the radio, but i did see their recent documentary. what all were Don Felder's roles?

Yeah, Don Felder was just the first "rock" guitar player they added(trying to get away from the early 70's country rock sound they had). He is a great player, and took them there. They finally fired him all over him owning shares of the Eagles "brand", which Joe or Tim never owned. He kept asking questions about not receiving his 1/3 of the profits(since only Don, Glenn, and Don Felder owned the BRAND - Bernie and Randy had left the band, and gave up their shares - Joe and Tim came on after it was too big, and weren't offered "ownership"). Don and Glenn(RIP) were tired of him getting that share(completely understandable, IMO, even though I'm a BIG DF fan -yet Don and Glenn were the stars, not Felder), and yet he kept nosing around with attorneys, and they found a way to fire him.

[Macfanforever]

I always love the Eagles music since they are the father or grandfather of country rock also their solo work too I enjoyed.I dont know if they will continue but the Don probably go back to solo work.The other probably keep busy too on projects.If Stevie tours with somebody else .I would like Don to tour with her.Not Rod or anybody else.I dont know if this latest event will set any fire under FM's a$$es to do anymore recording but we will see what will happen hopefully soon.

[Macfanforever]

I can't believe the Eagles can't tour with their founding member ever again. Needless to say, I am thankful we got to see the 5 Macsters onstage when we did. And they all looked good, even John.
Michele

Yes .I never got a chance to see the Eagles live like my sister did about probably 5 times over the years .And yes we are lucky to see the 5 Macsters on stage.We got just pray to God for John to stay healthy and the same for the rest of the band too.Plus we are so lucky that Christine came back too.

[michelej1]

Plus we are so lucky that Christine came back too.

I'm so glad she's back. I'm sorry, I had feelings for Bowie, but really none for Glenn Frey, so when I heard the news about him, all I thought of was Fleetwood Mac and how grateful I was that we got another tour with Christine (and how I wish we had an album). I enjoyed the quartet we had from SYW on. I loved those four. But this is where the band needs to be right now.

Five and out.

Michele

[HomerMcvie]

I'm so glad she's back. I'm sorry, I had feelings for Bowie, but really none for Glenn Frey

Michele

It's so funny how we all differ. Even though FM has always been the soundtrack to my life, Glenn's death REALLY threw me for a turn today.

To be honest, I always thought he was kind of a jerk, but he was the mastermind of The Eagles. He WAS the Lindsey Buckingham of The Eagles.

I've spent the past hour listening to the Hell Freezes Over DVD. Not watching it, just staring in an opposite corner, at the wall.

Bowie's death didn't affect me much, nor any of the others, personally. I mean, I felt for them, and their family and fans, but it didn't hit home.

Glenn's passing today, made me realize what's coming. For all of them. And eventually, for all of us. I felt like a part of my childhood died today.

Sorry to sound so sad.

[jbrownsjr]

Yes .I never got a chance to see the Eagles live like my sister did about probably 5 times over the years .And yes we are lucky to see the 5 Macsters on stage.We got just pray to God for John to stay healthy and the same for the rest of the band too.Plus we are so lucky that Christine came back too.

I still can't believe Christine came back. I feel that she gave this band a well needed breath of fresh air. They were so stale IMO and that EP was so uninspired. Hopefully Christine's influence will translate to the 3 writers putting together another quality album.

we will see... Time is of the essence.

[michelej1]

Bowie's death didn't affect me much, nor any of the others, personally. I mean, I felt for them, and their family and fans, but it didn't hit home.


Whereas I went off and started listening to Bowie songs and watching his youtube videos. I wasn't a fan of his per se, but I couldn't escape him growing up.

Michele