The New Album Thread [Archive] - Page 5

nicole21290

10-20-2014, 12:38 AM

You know that October 1997 Spin Magazine interview is the same one in which she says that she came upon Lindsey and Christine:

I also remember getting very upset with Lindsey one night when I realized that he and Christine had written "World Turning." I had been with Lindsey all those years and we had never written a song together. Plus, I walked into the studio and they were singing it together."

Yeah, that was NOT a good moment for her...

"The worst time really for me was, when we were doing that first album, was that Lindsey had been writing World Turning and I really wanted… I was his girlfriend too, you know, so you’ve got to realize that made me extra sensitive. And I really wanted to help with the song and he turned away completely and asked Chris. And that was the worst night of me being in Fleetwood Mac, because I went out to the parking lot and sat in the car and cried because I couldn’t figure out why he would tell me no and tell her yes. And it wasn’t even Christine, it was Lindsey that I was really bummed with, because I was so hurt. Then I realized as the days and weeks went on after that, that if we were going to do this, I was going to have to share him a little bit. And I was going to have to back off, because Christine certainly, of all people, didn’t want to cause any trouble between Lindsey and me. Just her as a musician and singer and a really nice lady that was becoming a friend of Lindsey’s, probably the kind of friend that I never was, nor will I ever be… he could accept her in a lot of ways that he couldn’t accept me. Because I loved her, it was alright. If I hadn’t had liked Christine, it would have been impossible. I would have had to leave, because I would have been so jealous."

michelej1

10-20-2014, 12:40 AM

bet he doesn't give Bob Dylan advice on lyrics.

Please. You don't even know how many times he's told Bob: "Don't buy that doll!"

Michele

bombaysaffires

10-20-2014, 12:41 AM

Please. You don't even know how many times he's told Bob: "Don't buy that doll!"

Michele

waving around that little pocket knife he pulled from his boot...

HomerMcvie

10-20-2014, 01:28 AM

bet he doesn't give Bob Dylan advice on lyrics.

++++++1,000,000,000,000!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

jbrownsjr

10-20-2014, 08:09 AM

Yeah, that was NOT a good moment for her...

"The worst time really for me was, when we were doing that first album, was that Lindsey had been writing World Turning and I really wanted… I was his girlfriend too, you know, so you’ve got to realize that made me extra sensitive. And I really wanted to help with the song and he turned away completely and asked Chris. And that was the worst night of me being in Fleetwood Mac, because I went out to the parking lot and sat in the car and cried because I couldn’t figure out why he would tell me no and tell her yes. And it wasn’t even Christine, it was Lindsey that I was really bummed with, because I was so hurt. Then I realized as the days and weeks went on after that, that if we were going to do this, I was going to have to share him a little bit. And I was going to have to back off, because Christine certainly, of all people, didn’t want to cause any trouble between Lindsey and me. Just her as a musician and singer and a really nice lady that was becoming a friend of Lindsey’s, probably the kind of friend that I never was, nor will I ever be… he could accept her in a lot of ways that he couldn’t accept me. Because I loved her, it was alright. If I hadn’t had liked Christine, it would have been impossible. I would have had to leave, because I would have been so jealous."

I give her a lot of credit for overcoming that. I might have really raised hell in that situation.

PenguinHead

10-20-2014, 03:55 PM

bet he doesn't give Bob Dylan advice on lyrics.

Bob Dylan isn't seeking song writing advice from Tom Petty.

MikeVielhaber

10-20-2014, 04:04 PM

Bob Dylan isn't seeking song writing advice from Tom Petty.

They were in a band together. You never know what they talked about.

Macfanforever

10-20-2014, 05:14 PM

Bob and Tom were part of the Travaling Wilburys.
along with Jeff Lynne,Roy Orbison and George Harrison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_Wilburys

Great music from great classic artists.

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Also Dave Stewart was involve with them.

If they could add a gal to the band at that time .They could of got Emmylou Harris .Dolly Parton,Linda Ronstadt or even Stevie.

Lindsey could sit in and add some picking too.

PenguinHead

10-26-2014, 01:39 PM

It Takes Time? Really, Lindsey?

We all know if any songs from that EP get placed onto this album it'll be Without You and Sad Angel :lol: Won't exactly be a shocker either, though I happily look forward to a day with Christine's vocals added to Sad Angel.

I didn't know that we all know that. I believe the new album will be all new songs, no re-do's of previous work. If there is ever an updated box set, those EP songs should be featured on it.

elle

12-03-2014, 07:29 PM

this is old, but i don't remember reading that last part about him and Christine and how they work together. (if it was posted somewhere already, feel free to consolidate.)

http://www.k-hits.com/news/music-news/lindsey-buckingham-sheds-light-fleetwood-mac-album-sessions

Lindsey Buckingham sheds light on Fleetwood Mac album sessions
Oct. 17, 2014

Prior to Fleetwood Mac hitting the road, Lindsey Buckingham spent time turning Christine McVie's recent piano and vocal demos into new Fleetwood Mac tracks, which will form the basis of the band's first new album with McVie in 27 years. Although Mac has released both a 2012 EP and 2003 album Say You Will in McVie absence, the fact remains that the group's last album with McVie -- 1987's Tango In The Night -- remains their biggest seller behind 1977's blockbuster, Rumours.

Buckingham spoke about the new work to The Wall Street Journal and explained how this project is different than the rest: "Christine and I were able to concentrate on each other. We were exploring some new turf. That became enlightening to me. . . We never envisioned finishing the album in the short term. We set it aside. Stevie (Nicks) will come in and participate. I have material I had been working on. There’s no danger that it will slip between the tracks. It’s too profound to."

As the two main instrumentalists for Fleetwood Mac, Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie shared a particularly unique bond -- one that was only strengthened over the years when Buckingham contributed so fiercely to the productions of her classic tracks for the band: "Christine and I, who are two musicians, who are every well grounded in their craft, have a kind of symmetry of respect and love for each other on a creative and a musical level. And I think that was a big part of that whole being greater than the sum of the parts was at that time. I could do for her -- I did for Stevie, too -- but the fact that she could fuse her sensibilities into my stuff and I could tap into what I do as a producer, say, and give back so much to her.”

Fleetwood Mac tour dates (subject to change):

October 18 - Toronto, ON - Air Canada Centre
October 19 - Columbus, OH - Nationwide Arena
October 21 - Indianapolis, IN - Bankers Life Fieldhouse
October 22 - Auburn Hills, MI - The Palace Of Auburn Hills
October 25 - Boston, MA - TD Garden
October 26 - Ottawa, ON - Canadian Tire Centre
October 29 - Philadelphia, PA - Wells Fargo Center
October 31 - Washington, D.C. - Verizon Center
November 1 - Hartford, CT - XL Center
November 4 - Calgary, AB - Scotiabank Saddledome
November 10 - Winnipeg, MB - MTS Centre
November 12 - Saskatoon, SK - Credit Union Centre
November 15 - Edmonton, AL - Rexall Place
November 18 - Vancouver, BC - Rogers Arena
November 20 - Tacoma, WA - Tacoma Dome
November 22 - Portland, OR - Moda Center
November 24 - Sacramento, CA - Sleep Train Arena
November 25 - San Jose, CA - SAP Center At San Jose
November 28, 29 - Inglewood, CA - The Forum
December 2 - San Diego, CA - Viejas Arena
December 3 - Oakland, CA - Oracle Arena
December 6 - Inglewood, CA - The Forum
December 10 - Phoenix, AZ - US Airways Center
December 12 - Denver, CO - Pepsi Center
December 14 - Dallas, TX - American Airlines Center
December 15 - Houston, TX - Toyota Center
December 17 - Atlanta, GA - Philips Arena
December 19 - Sunrise, FL - BB&T Center
December 20 - Tampa, FL - Tampa Bay Times Forum
January 16 - Saint Paul, MN - Xcel Energy Center
January 17 - Lincoln, NE - Pinnacle Bank Arena
January 20 - Grand Rapids, MI - Van Andel Arena
January 22 - New York, NY - Madison Square Garden Arena
January 24 - Atlantic City, NJ - Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall
January 25 - Uniondale, NY - Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
January 28 - Providence, RI - Dunkin' Donuts Center
January 31 - Buffalo, NY - First Niagara Center
February 3 - Toronto, ON - Air Canada Centre
February 5 - Montreal, QC - Bell Centre
February 7 - Uncasville, CT - Mohegan Sun Arena
February 8 - Newark, NJ - Prudential Center
February 11 - Des Moines, IA - Wells Fargo Arena
February 12 - Milwaukee, WI - BMO Harris Bradley Center
February 14 - Rosemont, IL - Allstate Arena
February 17 - Louisville, KY - KFC Yum! Center
February 18 - Cleveland, OH - Quicken Loans Arena
March 1 - Austin, TX - Frank Erwin Center
March 7 - Charlotte, NC - Time Warner Cable Arena
March 8 - Knoxville, TN - Thompson-Boling Arena
March 11 - North Little Rock, AR - Verizon Arena
March 12 - Oklahoma City, OK - Chesapeake Energy Arena
March 15 - Charlottesville, VA - John Paul Jones Arena (JPJ Arena)
March 17 - Greensboro, NC - Greensboro Coliseum
March 18 - Nashville, TN - Bridgestone Arena
March 27 - St. Louis, MO - Scottrade Center
March 28 - Kansas City, MO - Sprint Center
March 31 - Wichita, KS - Intrust Bank Arena

Side Notes:

In May 2013 Fleetwood Mac released the Extended Play EP, featuring the first new music from the band in a decade. Three of the four tracks -- the Lindsey Buckingham-written, "Sad Angel," "It Takes Time" and "Miss Fantasy," were co produced by Buckingham and studio veteran Mitchell Froom.

The fourth track is a vintage Stevie Nicks song -- "Without You" -- which was produced by Buckingham and Nicks and is a remake of an early Buckingham Nicks track that was slotted for the duo's planned second album. The track was long forgotten by the pair until Nicks rediscovered the song via YouTube.

Fleetwood Mac's last full-length studio album, Say You Will, was released on April 15th, 2003 and peaked at Number Three on the Billboard 200 album charts.

Photo by PRPhotos.com

aleuzzi

12-03-2014, 08:07 PM

Thanks for this. If, as of October 2014, LB was saying Stevie will come in and participate, then that's a good sign...I hope.

elle

12-03-2014, 08:53 PM

Thanks for this. If, as of October 2014, LB was saying Stevie will come in and participate, then that's a good sign...I hope.
yeah that was the interpretation many had for this particular quote around here at time when it first came out; others thought it sounds more like hope than certainty.

many have talked to Mick and several have talked to LB since; last i've heard was november. they both said she was not on board but they were really hoping she will change her mind and join them, but if not, they may have to consider some other options. and then SN interview came out where she said she doesn't know whether she will be on board for new FM album / how she will feel about it eventually.

and then there are tons of speculations and fairy tales being spun around. :lol:

aleuzzi

12-03-2014, 11:24 PM

Yep. As I feared. Complications.

jbrownsjr

12-04-2014, 12:05 AM

Thanks for posting. I think I read somewhere that she took one of his instrumentals and put a melody and lyrics on it.

michelej1

12-04-2014, 12:11 AM

Thanks for posting. I think I read somewhere that she took one of his instrumentals and put a melody and lyrics on it.

Yes, Lindsey said that. Michele

secondhandchain

12-04-2014, 08:49 PM

They could have fit in some recording but instead of chosen to wear them selves out playing every bum f town in the USA!!!!:mad:

BlueDenimLamp

12-04-2014, 09:14 PM

They could have fit in some recording but instead of chosen to wear them selves out playing every bum f town in the USA!!!!:mad:

Exactly! Shows = $$$ = No New Album. Almost 90 dates and counting with more to be added and the Australia /Nz leg still to be announced.

jwd

12-04-2014, 09:43 PM

Show Me The Money!

BlueDenimLamp

12-04-2014, 09:53 PM

Show Me The Money!

Ha...a second US leg ( if added ) will be called "On With The Show Me The Money" tour.

jwd

12-04-2014, 09:55 PM

Ha...a second US leg ( if added ) will be called "On With The Show Me The Money" tour.

:lol: THAT'S GOOD!

Macfanforever

12-04-2014, 10:03 PM

They could have fit in some recording but instead of chosen to wear them selves out playing every bum f town in the USA!!!!:mad:

If they want to hit every town in the USA .They are more then welcome to come to Wallyworld CT .Home of the Oakdale theater.Its walking distance from my house.

Also maybe they can drop some tracks at Trod Nossel studio while they are here which is not far from the theater.

elle

12-04-2014, 10:03 PM

Exactly! Shows = $$$ = No New Album. Almost 90 dates and counting with more to be added and the Australia /Nz leg still to be announced.

and your favorite lady is still to blame, no matter how much you are trying to shift the blame to the rest of the band. :lol:

i'm sure if she said yes, mar-apr i'll go in the studio with you, the other 4 would jump on it in a flash. :nod:

tabruns

12-04-2014, 10:12 PM

and your favorite lady is still to blame, no matter how much you are trying to shift the blame to the rest of the band. :lol:

i'm sure if she said yes, mar-apr i'll go in the studio with you, the other 4 would jump on it in a flash. :nod:

Nicks is the entire driving force behind adding more shows? Yeah right.

louielouie2000

12-04-2014, 10:14 PM

secret love

12-04-2014, 10:17 PM

They could have fit in some recording but instead of chosen to wear them selves out playing every bum f town in the USA!!!!:mad:

I share your frustration.

Lindsey and Christine didn't have to tell the press that they were working on new music. They got our hopes up for nothing!

Tango

12-04-2014, 10:17 PM

elle

12-04-2014, 10:20 PM

I never, ever thought they'd take any intermediate down time during this tour to record. That's just not how this band rolls this day and age. They will only hit the studio once this tour is wrapped up. Any smalls breaks during the tour will be used for just that- a break from each other.

i really really hope you are wrong. plus i don't think this band even knows how they roll this day and age, so we know even less.

but if you are right, then i suspect there will be no album... or if there is one it will not be with Nicks (which is more than fine with me).

Nicks and Linds both said on several occasions recently that in 2016 they will be back solo. i hope that pans out, especially for him.

SteveMacD

12-04-2014, 10:21 PM

The man's got it wrong.

louielouie2000

12-04-2014, 10:23 PM

Nicks is the entire driving force behind adding more shows? Yeah right.

Indeed. Stevie is more financially well off than any other member in this band. If anyone is going to be pushing to fill in any gaps in the tour, it'd probably be the English contingency. John likely has big medical bills from his cancer treatment, Christine hasn't worked in the better part of two decades, and Mick is paying for yet another divorce.

SteveMacD

12-04-2014, 10:25 PM

If they want to hit every town in the USA .They are more then welcome to come to Wallyworld CT .Home of the Oakdale theater.Its walking distance from my house.
Holiday Road.

elle

12-04-2014, 10:27 PM

Nicks is the entire driving force behind adding more shows? Yeah right.
again, not a rocket science:

she's the whole force behind no new album for the 5. no ifs or buts however much people may want to spin it.

jwd

12-04-2014, 10:30 PM

Indeed. Stevie is more financially well off than any other member in this band. If anyone is going to be pushing to fill in any gaps in the tour, it'd probably be the English contingency. John likely has big medical bills from his cancer treatment, Christine hasn't worked in the better part of two decades, and Mick is paying for yet another divorce.

I think Medicare, for the most part has that covered.

secret love

12-04-2014, 10:30 PM

I disagree with "all the new dates add is money" premise. I think it also brings happiness to those people who have been waiting to see the FIVE in person since 1997. Sure, I want to have a new album too, but I don't begrudge anyone the opportunity of seeing them together in person. I had my chance and now I'm thrilled for Europe, Austrailia, Canada, California and anywhere else they make their stops before they press on and create a new album.

I hope this time on the road is giving them new ideas, sparking conversation, exposing them to new visions, and even allowing them to catch up. I don't see it as wasted time. I think there has been YEARS of wasted time, but I don't consider these few months a waste at all. They are rebuilding their fan base by making contact. We have people on the Ledge that have never seen them LIVE. I hope they get their opportunity.

I have never seen the band live. The last time they came to Sydney was in 2009. I was 16 at the time and not a fan of the band (I didn't even know who they were).

I was very excited about going to see Fleetwood Mac at the Sydney Entertainment Centre (now called Qantas Credit Union Arena) last year. My dad bought me tickets for my birthday. I was very disappointed when I found out by visiting this site that the concert I had tickets to was cancelled. Though I can understand that the band really had no choice but to cancel those dates due to John McVie's illness.

I am excited by the prospect of seeing the band for the first time with all five in my home country. I won't allow myself to get too excited until the Australia dates are officially announced.

Still, I can't help wondering why the band didn't come to Australia first. It was nice and warm in Sydney on the 30th of September. There is no need to do a cajillion American shows. One leg of US dates would have been enough. Do Australia and New Zealand in January/February and Europe in March/April.

Then the band could have been in the studio in June 2015 and get the album finished and released before 2016.

Anyone who really believes that this massive tour has nothing to do with money is in denial. Every band member knows that Fleetwood Mac is their cash cow - but only on tour, not in the studio.

nicole21290

12-04-2014, 10:33 PM

I never, ever thought they'd take any intermediate down time during this tour to record. That's just not how this band rolls this day and age. They will only hit the studio once this tour is wrapped up. Any smalls breaks during the tour will be used for just that- a break from each other.

This. A thousand times this. These added dates do not make a difference either way to timing of recording of the album. At the moment, anyway. A few weeks in the middle of the tour wasn't going to be for the album - it would be extra vacation time or something. Stevie saying 'not sure if I'll do an album yet' didn't cause them to add more dates, and them adding more dates didn't cause a lack of recording the album.

They're going to squeeze every last drop out of this tour, lol.

elle

12-04-2014, 10:37 PM

Stevie saying 'not sure if I'll do an album yet'
there was no "yet" there, in any quotes we saw from her.

secret love

12-04-2014, 10:42 PM

again, not a rocket science:

she's the whole force behind no new album for the 5. no ifs or buts however much people may want to spin it.

I agree. I just wish that the other four band members had the balls to give Stevie an ultimatum:

"You're in or you're out. And if you're out, we will release an album under the name Fleetwood Mac without you."

BlueDenimLamp

12-04-2014, 10:48 PM

again, not a rocket science:

she's the whole force behind no new album for the 5. no ifs or buts however much people may want to spin it.

If Stevie is standing up for something she believes in then good for her...

BlueDenimLamp

12-04-2014, 10:49 PM

I agree. I just wish that the other four band members had the balls to give Stevie an ultimatum:

"You're in or you're out. And if you're out, we will release an album under the name Fleetwood Mac without you."

Until the band chooses integrity over income that may never happen.

nicole21290

12-04-2014, 10:50 PM

there was no "yet" there, in any quotes we saw from her.

'Not sure I'll do an album yet', meaning she hasn't made her mind up thus far, not 'I'll definitely do an album but I'm not sure at what point in time', sorry. Wrote too hastily, probably, and obscured meaning.

"I don't know, because nothing can be done on that until we're done, and we have another seventy shows until this American tour is done, then we have Australia, then we have Europe. This isn't going to be done until this time next year," Stevie tells ABC News Radio. "So, I don't know how I'm gonna feel in a year. I don't know whether I'm gonna wanna go back to my own thing or whether I'm gonna wanna sign up for another year of making a record," she adds. "I don't really know what I'm gonna wanna do then."

elle

12-04-2014, 10:51 PM

If Stevie is standing up for something she believes in then good for her...

what is she standing up for?

secret love

12-04-2014, 10:56 PM

what is she standing up for?

That's a good question.

The only answer I can think of is that she's standing up for her right not to be involved in making a new Fleetwood Mac album. By extension, she's standing up for her right to purposefully disappoint thousands of loyal, devoted fans.

BlueDenimLamp

12-04-2014, 11:08 PM

what is she standing up for?

Herself...It's not likely that they will put out an album and miss out on the chance to cash in on it with another tour...So maybe she is not on board with an album because it means another tour and she does not want to do a third world tour in a row and simply wants time off...

gssmith

12-04-2014, 11:21 PM

Thanks for this. If, as of October 2014, LB was saying Stevie will come in and participate, then that's a good sign...I hope.

Of course she will. People going cray cray for nothing. Amusing though. Just laugh at others pulling their hair out.

michelej1

12-04-2014, 11:54 PM

I think Medicare, for the most part has that covered.

Even if he weren't old enough to qualify for Medicare, he could always afford private health insurance.

Michele

michelej1

12-04-2014, 11:58 PM

Indeed. Stevie is more financially well off than any other member in this band. If anyone is going to be pushing to fill in any gaps in the tour, it'd probably be the English contingency.

I don't think Stevie is pushing to tour, but if she agreed to do an album, the others would stop touring to work on that album -- and then, no doubt, want to tour again on the album.

I think she'd rather tour than be stuck in the studio doing an album with FM.

Michele

michelej1

12-05-2014, 12:06 AM

Of course she will. People going cray cray for nothing. Amusing though. Just laugh at others pulling their hair out.

Not having the album already (or a release date for it) is enough to pull my hair out about now. I don't care what they do in 2016. As long as I'm upset in the present, going crazy about it in the present feels apropros. Saying, "well I won't think about it now, everything will turn out all right in the end ..." That's not helpful. I don't care about the end.

Michele

WayOfTheDragon

12-05-2014, 01:46 AM

I really want to hear those new Christine/Lindsey collaborations. Their collaborations tend to be my favorites.

HomerMcvie

12-05-2014, 02:17 AM

I really want to hear those new Christine/Lindsey collaborations. Their collaborations tend to be my favorites.

AMEN. Give us Tango II. Let the idiot "contribute" a couple crappy demos(or covers) at the end. History tends to repeat itself...

jbrownsjr

12-05-2014, 04:39 AM

I really want to hear those new Christine/Lindsey collaborations. Their collaborations tend to be my favorites.

Amen. Those two have a hard work ethic when it comes to FMac.

secret love

12-05-2014, 07:48 AM

Even if he weren't old enough to qualify for Medicare, he could always afford private health insurance.

Michele

Old enough to qualify? Huh? :shocked:

In Australia, Medicare covers everyone. We pay for universal health care through our taxes. There is a 2% Medicare levy for people earning more than $24167 p.a.

Why are you Americans so scared of socialised health care? It has worked really well in the UK (NHS) and in Australia (Medicare).

I can go to any public hospital and receive free treatment. I can go to a bulk-billing GP and receive free treatment.

secret love

12-05-2014, 07:53 AM

I don't think Stevie is pushing to tour, but if she agreed to do an album, the others would stop touring to work on that album -- and then, no doubt, want to tour again on the album.

I think she'd rather tour than be stuck in the studio doing an album with FM.

Michele

It occurred to me that maybe Stevie has writer's block. Perhaps she doesn't want to say she's on board for a new album until she has some new songs (not more songs from the vault) prepared.

lulu28

12-05-2014, 08:52 AM

If Stevie is standing up for something she believes in then good for her...

Agree!!! :angel:

Macfan4life

12-05-2014, 08:55 AM

The Mac is having so much fun on this tour. Let them enjoy this moment. They may or may not tour again but if they do it would never be as extensive as this one. There is a HUGE demand for them and let them feed the demand while having fun.
This is a magical moment for them. I hope it never ends. I NEVER thought I would hear Chris's magical voice fill an arena again. I want that magic all over the world!

lulu28

12-05-2014, 09:17 AM

what is she standing up for?

Her right to live her life as SHE pleases.......the same right that we all have. You and I might not always like her choices, but again, we don't walk in her boots. Also, I agree with whoever it was here on the Ledge that said that "we" the ledgies probably make up the majority of people who are having fits about this new album drama.
Most people probably don't care about new music from FM and that sucks. It only makes sense that they are going to milk this tour for all of the money that they can EARN. They are staring retirement in the face, and they all have loved ones that they want to take care of financially, I'm sure. I wish we could have a new FM album and a tour and Stevie solo and Lindsey solo and a Buckingham/Nicks tour too, but that's probably not in the cards. Time isn't on our(their) side. :sorry:

michelej1

12-05-2014, 02:17 PM

Old enough to qualify? Huh? :shocked:

For Medicare, you have to be 65 and have to have paid into the system. We also have Medi-Cal in California, but since John moved to Hawaii, I don't know if that is available to him.

At any rate, John probably didn't have to pay most of his medical costs out of his own pocket.

Michele

bombaysaffires

12-05-2014, 02:21 PM

michelej1

12-05-2014, 02:28 PM

the energy of the songs changes after they sit around on a shelf for a while….

I think so and so do the writers feelings about a song, the enthusiasm wanes. Because that excitement to be a little contagious, I want to feel it while it's hot. I never wanted the rest of Lindsey's EP songs anyway. They were already old to me last year.

Michele

nicepace

12-05-2014, 10:48 PM

Count me in with those who are saying they want to hear the Christine/Lindsey collaborations. When those two work together, magic happens.

BLY

12-05-2014, 11:04 PM

This is also the first time the fab " 5 " are recording a new studio album since the age of the internet. We get a lot of noise that is nothing but just that.

elle

12-05-2014, 11:10 PM

This is also the first time the fab " 5 " are recording a new studio album since the age of the internet. We get a lot of noise that is nothing but just that.

:confused: what is noise? that they recorded 15-20 new songs and that many of them are practically complete? seem like facts, why would they make that up?

also, fans are talking to band members (Mick has constant m&gs and is asked about this a lot, for one), and transmitting info they are getting. is that also "just noise"? :shrug:

aleuzzi

12-06-2014, 11:42 AM

the energy of the songs changes after they sit around on a shelf for a while…. I want to hear whatever they've recorded now while they are still genuinely excited about them and not later when they are just 'selling' them.

Yes! I totally agree. There is something to be said for spontaneity. The band missed this opportunity by not putting something out this fall. Or even the spring. But by 2016? Christine's "fresh as a daisy" comment regarding the songs will no longer be relevant, and that's kind of sad.

aleuzzi

12-06-2014, 11:45 AM

Not having the album already (or a release date for it) is enough to pull my hair out about now. I don't care what they do in 2016. As long as I'm upset in the present, going crazy about it in the present feels apropros. Saying, "well I won't think about it now, everything will turn out all right in the end ..." That's not helpful. I don't care about the end.

Michele

Yes. I feel this way, too. I make no bones about griping and "going crazy" when I've waited decades for this to happen and now, when the possibility seems so damn close, there are the usual Mac complications and delays. Not to mention the possibility of it all falling apart. No assurances. That annoys me more than anything.

David

12-07-2014, 01:05 PM

Fleetwood Mac tour dates (subject to change) It's a minor and unrelated point, but I was reading the tour itinerary in elle's post and I thought, "Jesus Christ, what a joke all those corporate names are for most of those arenas!"

Nationwide Arena, Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Canadian Tire Centre, Rexall Place, Sleep Train Arena, Toyota Center, Dunkin' Donuts Center, KFC Yum! Center, Quicken Loans Arena, Scottrade Center, etc.

It's all about the branding, after all.

michelej1

12-07-2014, 02:48 PM

It's a minor and unrelated point, but I was reading the tour itinerary in elle's post and I thought, "Jesus Christ, what a joke all those corporate names are for most of those arenas!"

Nationwide Arena, Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Canadian Tire Centre, Rexall Place, Sleep Train Arena, Toyota Center, Dunkin' Donuts Center, KFC Yum! Center, Quicken Loans Arena, Scottrade Center, etc.

It's all about the branding, after all.

I never understood what "Sleep Train" was about. I didn't know it was a brand.

Michele

secret love

12-07-2014, 04:34 PM

I never understood what "Sleep Train" was about. I didn't know it was a brand.

Michele
I don't know why but reading "Sleep Train" just made this song pop into my head. Maybe because of the "big wheels keep on turning" lyric.

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FuzzyPlum

12-30-2014, 07:20 AM

Originally on RTT News;
http://www.rttnews.com/2435876/fleetwood-mac-to-record-new-album-in-2015.aspx

Then regurgitated on XFM website;
http://www.xfm.co.uk/news/fleetwood-mac-promise-last-album-isle-of-wight/

Lindsey says an album would be a 'beautiful way to wrap up this act'.

Buckingham said that he will put his own solo material on the backburner while he puts together a new Fleetwood album with Christine McVie (straight after the tour).

Macfan4life

12-30-2014, 08:10 AM

Yes its going to be wonderful. I was just listening to an interview with Mick Fleetwood on the FM site and he also was talking about the new album and how it needs to be made.
I think it will be wonderful. The Mac has had odd pressure making albums for decades after Tusk. For Mirage they felt the need to be more commercial, for Tango they really embraced the 80's sound and commercial to make sure it was successful, etc. I would love to see these 5 people make an album with no pressure and let them do what they want. Say you Will is a great album but removing 5 songs and adding 5 Chris songs would have made that album sensational.
I don't agree with the drama that want to write and blog about Stevie has not committed to a new album. There is no record deal yet and she was not invited to the get togethers because she was busy with her new album 24 K Gold. So just because she does not talk about the new album does not mean she would not do this album. There is NO WAY she would not do this new album after being in the Mac for all these years without Chris and even staying to make an album when Lindsey left. Lindsey is right. One more studio album would be the best way to go full circle and wrap it up.

FuzzyPlum

12-30-2014, 08:15 AM

...while he puts together a new Fleetwood album with Christine McVie.

No mention of Stevie Nicks.

The Catdancer

12-30-2014, 09:05 AM

Maybe that's why Stevie is reluctant to record with them, she doesn't want it to be over.

nicole21290

12-30-2014, 09:16 AM

Yep, just rehashed (without full context or quotes) from the interview with Tavis. The relevant part of the transcript:

TS: Which leaves me to offer this as the last question. So since Fleetwood Mac’s on the big tour now - everybody knows that so get your tickets if you can get in; they’re out there now - Um, what happens after the big tour? You gonna go back to more solo stuff?

LB: Uh, eventually. But, you know, one of the really exciting things that happened before we started rehearsing the show with Christine is she came over, because she said ‘Lindsey, I’ve got some rough ideas for new songs’, and we, she came over and we went in the studio - the two of us with John and Mick - and again, you ask ‘Well, is that still going to work?’ and that was my thought. Oh my god, you know, is this, am I still going to be able to do what I used to do for her or is what she’s going to bring me - She gave me a bunch of stuff to take home after we saw her in England when we played there, and I worked on it at home, took lots of liberties, came back, she loved it. We went in the studio for two months and came up with probably the best group of songs which were co-written that I think we’ve done in years, so we are going to continue working on a new album. And, uh, the solo stuff will probably take a backseat for another year or so.

TS: You know what, nobody’s complaining about that.

LB: No. Least of all me.

TS: People would love to hear another Fleetwood Mac album.

LB: Oh, I’m telling ya, beautiful way to kind of wrap up this last act, you know.

TS: Well, I suspect, uh, when that happens, you and maybe somebody else will come back and see us.

LB: I certainly hope so.

FuzzyPlum

12-30-2014, 09:31 AM

Oh yes, I see. That's kind of lazy journalism really (if you can call it journalism) - dragging out snippets of old news.

Anyway, 'the best group of songs that were co-written that we've done in years' (at least since ...Tango In The Night, one presumes).

DauphineMarie

12-30-2014, 12:26 PM

...while he puts together a new Fleetwood album with Christine McVie.

No mention of Stevie Nicks.

Stevie Nicks has never "put together" any FM albums. She presents her songs, records them, and lets the instrumentalists do the work with her input. When FM calls, she comes (most times), but she does not call them and say "hey we need to work on this album."

elle

12-30-2014, 01:36 PM

Originally on RTT News;
http://www.rttnews.com/2435876/fleetwood-mac-to-record-new-album-in-2015.aspx

Then regurgitated on XFM website;
http://www.xfm.co.uk/news/fleetwood-mac-promise-last-album-isle-of-wight/

another site where quotes from Lindsey's Tavis interview were regurgitated although i've never seen the additional stuff that i bolded (about LB saying he's physically young but mentally in arrested development) and have no clue where that originally came from:

http://www.k-hits.com/news/music-news/lindsey-buckingham-hints-fleetwood-mac-album-will-be-studio-swan-song

Lindsey Buckingham hints Fleetwood Mac album will be studio swan song
Dec. 30, 2014

Lindsey Buckingham hinted that Fleetwood Mac's next album might be the band's studio swan song. During a chat with PBS' Tavis Smiley, Buckingham spoke about the new material he's been cooking up with returning keyboardist Christine McVie, revealing, "Before we started rehearsing the show with Christine, she came over and said, ‘Lindsey, I’ve got some rough ideas for new songs. She gave me a bunch of stuff to take home after we saw her in England when we played there. And I worked on it at home, took lots of liberties, came back. She loved it. We went in the studio for two months and came up with probably the best group of songs that were co-written that we’ve done in years. So we are going to continue working on a new album and (my) solo stuff will probably take a back seat for another year or so.”

He went on to say the still unfinished album "would be a beautiful way to kind of wrap up this last act."

Although Lindsey Buckingham is marking his 40th anniversary of joining Fleetwood Mac, at 65, he still feels like he's at the top of his game: “A lot of the idea of (laughs) being in a rock n’ roll band and getting to be one of, sort of the people who’s been around for a while, y’know, you can manage that equation any number of ways. Y’know, it’s hard for me to sort of. . . I feel the same physically as I did 25 years ago. I think I’m mentally, somewhat in arrested (laughs) development - y’know, in a good way, I hope!”

Fleetwood Mac North American tour dates (subject to change):

January 16 - Saint Paul, MN - Xcel Energy Center
January 17 - Lincoln, NE - Pinnacle Bank Arena
January 20 - Grand Rapids, MI - Van Andel Arena
January 22 - New York, NY - Madison Square Garden Arena
January 24 - Atlantic City, NJ - Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall
January 25 - Uniondale, NY - Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
January 28 - Providence, RI - Dunkin' Donuts Center
January 30 - Washington, DC - Verizon Center
January 31 - Buffalo, NY - First Niagara Center
February 3 - Toronto, ON - Air Canada Centre
February 5 - Montreal, QC - Bell Centre
February 7 - Uncasville, CT - Mohegan Sun Arena
February 8 - Newark, NJ - Prudential Center
February 11 - Des Moines, IA - Wells Fargo Arena
February 12 - Milwaukee, WI - BMO Harris Bradley Center
February 14 - Rosemont, IL - Allstate Arena
February 17 - Louisville, KY - KFC Yum! Center
February 18 - Cleveland, OH - Quicken Loans Arena
March 1 - Austin, TX - Frank Erwin Center
March 3 - Houston, TX - Toyota Center
March 4 - Dallas, TX - American Airlines Center
March 7 - Charlotte, NC - Time Warner Cable Arena
March 8 - Knoxville, TN - Thompson-Boling Arena
March 11 - North Little Rock, AR - Verizon Arena
March 12 - Oklahoma City, OK - Chesapeake Energy Arena
March 15 - Charlottesville, VA - John Paul Jones Arena (JPJ Arena)
March 17 - Greensboro, NC - Greensboro Coliseum
March 18 - Nashville, TN - Bridgestone Arena
March 21 - Miami, FL - Time Warner Cable Arena
March 23 - Orlando, FL - Amway Center
March 25 - Atlanta, GA - Philips Arena
March 27 - St. Louis, MO - Scottrade Center
March 28 - Kansas City, MO - Sprint Center
March 31 - Wichita, KS - Intrust Bank Arena
April 1 - Denver, CO - Pepsi Center
April 4 - Vancouver, BC - Rogers Arena
April 6 - Bakersfield, CA - Rabobank Arena
April 7 - Oakland, CA - Oracle Arena
April 10 - Inglewood, CA - Forum
April 11 - Las Vegas, NV - MGM Grand Garden Arena

Side Notes:

Out now is Lindsey Buckingham's first ever solo live album -- Lindsey Buckingham: One Man Show. The set was recorded on September 1st, 2012 in Des Moines, Iowa at Hoyt Sherman Place, and chronicled the set Buckingham has playing on his last solo tour.

The album features Buckingham tapping into his solo work with tracks like "Go Insane" and "Trouble," Fleetwood Mac with "I'm So Afraid," and "Go Your Own Way" -- and even a rare dip into the Buckingham Nicks catalogue with "Stephanie."

The tracklisting for Lindsey Buckingham: One Man Show is: "Cast Away Dreams," "Bleed To Love Her," "Not Too Late," "Stephanie," "Come," "Shut Us Down," "Go Insane," "Never Going Back Again," "Big Love," "I'm So Afraid," "Go Your Own Way," "Trouble," and "Seeds We Sow."

Photo by PRPhotos.com

elle

12-30-2014, 01:52 PM

... and another version here, but with the audio of the new quote if you click on the link "AUDIO: LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM ON FEELING IN SHAPE":

http://oldies1017.com/The_Music_World.php

Music World
LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM HINTS FLEETWOOD MAC ALBUM WILL BE STUDIO SWAN SONG

Lindsey Buckingham hinted that Fleetwood Mac's next album might be the band's studio swan song. During a chat with PBS' Tavis Smiley, Buckingham spoke about the new material he's been cooking up with returning keyboardist Christine McVie, revealing, "Before we started rehearsing the show with Christine, she came over and said, ‘Lindsey, I’ve got some rough ideas for new songs. She gave me a bunch of stuff to take home after we saw her in England when we played there. And I worked on it at home, took lots of liberties, came back. She loved it. We went in the studio for two months and came up with probably the best group of songs that were co-written that we’ve done in years. So we are going to continue working on a new album and (my) solo stuff will probably take a back seat for another year or so."

He went on to say the still unfinished album "would be a beautiful way to kind of wrap up this last act."

Although Lindsey Buckingham is marking his 40th anniversary of joining Fleetwood Mac, at 65, he still feels like he's at the top of his game: "A lot of the idea of (laughs) being in a rock n’ roll band and getting to be one of, sort of the people who’s been around for a while, y’know, you can manage that equation any number of ways. Y’know, it’s hard for me to sort of. . . I feel the same physically as I did 25 years ago. I think I’m mentally, somewhat in arrested (laughs) development - y’know, in a good way, I hope!"
March 17 - Greensboro, NC - Greensboro Coliseum
March 18 - Nashville, TN - Bridgestone Arena
March 21 - Miami, FL - Time Warner Cable Arena
March 23 - Orlando, FL - Amway Center
March 25 - Atlanta, GA - Philips Arena
March 27 - St. Louis, MO - Scottrade Center
March 28 - Kansas City, MO - Sprint Center
March 31 - Wichita, KS - Intrust Bank Arena
April 1 - Denver, CO - Pepsi Center
April 4 - Vancouver, BC - Rogers Arena
April 6 - Bakersfield, CA - Rabobank Arena
April 7 - Oakland, CA - Oracle Arena
April 10 - Inglewood, CA - Forum
April 11 - Las Vegas, NV - MGM Grand Garden Arena

AUDIO: LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM ON FEELING IN SHAPE

jbrownsjr

12-30-2014, 02:42 PM

Yep, definitely some new quotes.

secret love

12-30-2014, 05:01 PM

I'm telling you, once Stevie Nicks realises how little work is actually required of her for this album which is at least 50% done already, she is going to be in that studio with them quick smart!

All she needs to give them is three or four new songs. She could even just give them two new songs and drag up Joan of Arc and Space Needle or What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done for You? If she wanted to do that.

She adds backing vocals to the eight already finished songs Lindsey and Christine made in March/April and voila, hey presto ...a new studio album by Fleetwood Mac is complete.

Stevie only has 3 months full-time work, maximum that she needs to do to get this album finished. I'm sure that if they can't finish an album, we will get the music in the form of Extended Play CDs instead, anyway. Worst case, the material will get rolled into a solo Lindsey Buckingham album, featuring Christine McVie as a special guest.

I'm still jealous of the music journalists who were allowed to hear the danceable new tune Too Far Gone and the boppy How I Feel when they interviewed Lindsey and Christine in the studio in, I think it was April 2014.

pberry

12-31-2014, 12:24 AM

This story was posted today on ultimate class rock, includes video of Stevie talking about the future:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/lindsey-buckingham-fleetwood-mac-last-act/#photogallery-1=147

Lindsey Buckingham Says Fleetwood Mac Could Be Beginning Its ‘Last Act’
by Dave Lifton December 30, 2014 3:56 PM

Before embarking on their current tour, Fleetwood Mac began work on their next album. In a recent interview, Lindsey Buckingham suggested that it could become a part of a final hurrah for the group.

“If you want to think of this [tour] as the beginning of the last act,” he told PBS’ Tavis Smiley. “That’s how it feels.”

Buckingham appears to be taking that approach with their upcoming release, which has only had some work done by Buckingham to flesh out some demos by keyboardist Christine McVie, who is back in the group after 15 years on the sidelines.

“She gave me a bunch of stuff to take home after we saw her in England when we played there,” he said towards the end of the interview. “And I worked on it at home, took lots of liberties, came back. She loved it. We went in the studio for two months and came up with probably the best group of songs that were co-written that we’ve done in years. So we are going to continue working on a new album and the solo stuff will probably take a back seat for another year or so.”

He then noted that it would be a “beautiful way to kind of wrap up this last act.”
Of course, Fleetwood Mac’s entire history has been filled with stops and starts, so who knows if this really is the beginning of the end?

PenguinHead

12-31-2014, 01:26 AM

I'm telling you, once Stevie Nicks realises how little work is actually required of her for this album which is at least 50% done already, she is going to be in that studio with them quick smart!

All she needs to give them is three or four new songs. She could even just give them two new songs and drag up Joan of Arc and Space Needle or What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done for You? If she wanted to do that.

Stevie only has 3 months full-time work, maximum that she needs to do to get this album finished.
I'm still jealous of the music journalists who were allowed to hear the danceable new tune Too Far Gone and the boppy How I Feel when they interviewed Lindsey and Christine in the studio in, I think it was April 2014.

When it comes to recording, Stevie has always had the least demanding role in the band. It's hard to imagine that she would even consider passing on being a part in the very last chapter of this historic and epic band.

I wonder if Christine will stay in California after it's all over. I suppose we can look forward to few more solo albums from Lindsey, Stevie, and hopefully Christine.

secret love

12-31-2014, 02:35 AM

When it comes to recording, Stevie has always had the least demanding role in the band. It's hard to imagine that she would even consider passing on being a part in the very last chapter of this historic and epic band.

I wonder if Christine will stay in California after it's all over. I suppose we can look forward to few more solo albums from Lindsey, Stevie, and hopefully Christine.

Somehow I doubt we will ever see another solo Christine McVie album before she shuffles off her mortal coil/kicks the bucket/passes into the next life.

I think she did In the Meantime because she had a stack of songs leftover from what she wrote during 1997 in the lead up to The Dance Reunion Tour and also because her nephew Dan Perfect wanted to help her. So it was an opportunity for her to really get to know the young feller who she hadn't paid much attention to for so long. Also, Fleetwood Mac had flat out refused Christine's participation in Say You Will if she was not prepared to tour the world with them.

An 18 month tour for someone who was petrified of flying at the time just wasn't going to happen, so that meant she had to go out on her own with her nephew Dan, at least temporarily.

I think that anything Christine writes and records from here on in will be released under the Fleetwood Mac banner, until one of them drops dead, at which point solo work for the living band members would come into play. I really think that Stevie's solo work with 24 Karat Gold Album was lovely but at the same time, it just goes to show she isn't as concerned about the one last hurrah as Lindsey and Christine, Mick and John are...those four really worked hard in the studio and they all really want to realise one last swan song for this seventies super band...to make them relevant to young people with new music, just one last time and also for the long-term diehard fans.

Stevie's 24 Karat Gold Album was a real treat for fans but she appears to see less value in a brand new studio album for Fleetwood Mac, which would have a broader appeal than her solo work at this particular juncture!

She will be there eventually, if the new studio album is given an official forthcoming release date - that's when we know that Stevie will be there helping to make it happen. Christine tentatively mentioned May 2015 as a potential release date, but qualified her statements in that interview with, "I'm going to be in big trouble if I stuff this up/get this wrong"

teedeerocks

12-31-2014, 03:17 AM

If they tour after the new album it is going to be total frenzy and an emotional mess for the band and fans alike (especially Stevie).They'll be giving out tissues and Xanax at the door! If you think Stevie got emotional during "Say Goodbye" in 2013,wait until the LAST NIGHT of the final tour...I'll probably be effed up for a month!:(

secret love

12-31-2014, 08:10 AM

mitzo

12-31-2014, 09:59 AM

I bet if there is that one more album, Stevie will be all over it, and will get the first single. Look at the Dance .... she came back then, and was front and centre, and had 2 singles from it. She knows how to wring facetime and money from FM, isn't it the case that she has had a deal to get 40% of the touring revenues?

wheart

12-31-2014, 10:50 AM

FuzzyPlum

12-31-2014, 11:36 AM

Sorry but I find this whole notion of one last album very depressing, although it's most likely the way it will go down, if we get an album at all. It just makes me wonder what would have happened if Chris had decided to come back after just a few years, instead of 16. Fleetwood Mac's legacy may have looked (and sounded) very differently. Of course the past cannot be changed but I feel sometimes like she came back too late. How many more productive years does this band realistically have? Not too many.

Yes it is a bit depressing- but still very exciting too. We know for sure there'll at least be another album. That would no doubt at least be followed by another box-set retrospective at some point.
I wonder whether the idea of it being 'kind of a beautiful way to wrap up this last act' isn't just another ruse to lure Stevie's participation. Lindsey himself certainly seems happy to be working in the confines of the band now. I think he would like things to continue indefinitely.

wheart

12-31-2014, 12:22 PM

Yes it is a bit depressing- but still very exciting too. We know for sure there'll at least be another album. That would no doubt at least be followed by another box-set retrospective at some point.
I wonder whether the idea of it being 'kind of a beautiful way to wrap up this last act' isn't just another ruse to lure Stevie's participation. Lindsey himself certainly seems happy to be working in the confines of the band now. I think he would like things to continue indefinitely.

I know what you mean about Lindsey...does seem odd, especially in light of what he was saying on stage earlier in the tour...about this new chapter "bearing much fruit". I hadn't really given it much thought but I think his comments are out of character for him.

SteveMacD

12-31-2014, 12:47 PM

He could just be tired of/frustrated with trying to get somebody in particular to participate on the album. I think he just wants to make music, and is tired of the politics and the fake drama.

elle

12-31-2014, 01:28 PM

Sorry but I find this whole notion of one last album very depressing, although it's most likely the way it will go down, if we get an album at all. It just makes me wonder what would have happened if Chris had decided to come back after just a few years, instead of 16. Fleetwood Mac's legacy may have looked (and sounded) very differently. Of course the past cannot be changed but I feel sometimes like she came back too late. How many more productive years does this band realistically have? Not too many.
they could have probably have a few more albums, instead of endlessly waiting for something or other. maybe Nicks would be out of the band by now if she was as reluctant to record new music as she seems to be lately.

He could just be tired of/frustrated with trying to get somebody in particular to participate on the album. I think he just wants to make music, and is tired of the politics and the fake drama.
yes! i think you hit the nail on the head, with everything you wrote.

he seemed to have had high hopes for maybe a few more albums and chapters when Christine came back and they clicked so well again. as the time goes on and they can't get Nicks on board he's probably getting tired of spinning his wheels waiting and wasting his prolific phase and he'd settle for at least putting a bow on the whole act with one last album from the 5. or maybe it will have to be 4.

teedeerocks

12-31-2014, 04:08 PM

bombaysaffires

12-31-2014, 04:43 PM

I know what you mean about Lindsey...does seem odd, especially in light of what he was saying on stage earlier in the tour...about this new chapter "bearing much fruit". I hadn't really given it much thought but I think his comments are out of character for him.

I think he's clearly got a lot more creativity left in him and will do more music. I wouldn't be surprised if he and Chris continue working together…but doing so now, on an LB solo album, would take some of the novelty and big press value out of a full-5 FM album with Chris. So they'll eventually get the FM album out after the tour, and then, they've made their "final stand" if that's what it turns out to be…and Stevie can buzz off doing whatever she wants, and LB and Christine can go on to do more work together if they wish and not be held hostage to Stevie's whims.

SteveMacD

12-31-2014, 04:45 PM

If nothing else,this band will go down in history as the zaniest,dramaqueenest band to ever exist on the face of the earth,no matter what era is focused on:rolleyes:.No wonder we're so addicted to them!
Even the naming of the band as a way to lure a reluctant John McVie away from Mayall was a bit dramatic.

nicepace

12-31-2014, 06:20 PM

It wouldn't have to be this melodramatic one last album if they would just make albums the way normal musicians do. Book some studio space for a month, hire a producer and a sound engineer and whatever other technical staff they need, and maybe bring in a couple of backing musicians, and go at it, accepting that what they come up with is going to be good enough.

That was the way they did this process in the Bob Welch years, and look at the five albums they made during that span of time (which was what? four years?). Fan (and critical) opinions vary on those five albums, but there is no denying they were five albums that accurately reflected the band at the time they were made, and they were all good, solid efforts. (At least one was a masterpiece.) Why has superstardom made it so difficult to just bang out some songs and make an album?

pattyfan

12-31-2014, 06:32 PM

Hmm, I for one think...

Awesome, a new CD :) I'm sure there will be at least a few songs that I like. And maybe it will be great

Lindsey is saying it's a last CD now, but things might change. Goodness knows they have just in last year.

Stevie will definitely be on it.

Cool. More Mac stuff in the upcoming year :) :)

Kevin

Macfan4life

12-31-2014, 10:17 PM

Enjoy this while it lasts
http://www.noise11.com/news/lindsay-buckingham-calls-2015-last-year-for-fleetwood-mac-20150101

SteveMacD

12-31-2014, 11:11 PM

"He did admit, though, that there’s still a year or two left and that he would be putting off his solo activities until things wrap up."

He made that comment this month, which tells me it will be more like 2016-17. I can't see them not doing a 2017 50th Anniversary tour, or at least a series of shows. To be so close to that milestone and not celebrate it would be stupid.

michelej1

12-31-2014, 11:15 PM

I can't see them not doing a 2017 50th Anniversary tour, or at least a series of shows. To be so close to that milestone and not celebrate it would be stupid.

But they're pretty stupid. They have let many marketing opportunities slip through their fingers.

Michele

Macfanforever

12-31-2014, 11:48 PM

I think they will go on forever.God welling. Remember when the Eagles quit a couple times.

michelej1

01-01-2015, 01:09 AM

Anti Music 12/31/2014

http://www.teamrock.com/news/2014-12-31/fleetwood-mac-album-will-wrap-up-last-act

(TeamRock Radio) Fleetwood Mac guitarist Lindsay Buckingham says that the band's reunion tour and upcoming album with Christine McVie will be a "beautiful way to wrap up this last act."
She officially rejoined this year after retiring in 1998, and they're currently touring the world under the banner On With The Show. But Buckingham, who admits to initial doubts over her return, has given his strongest hint yet that Mac are considering winding down - and he's putting solo plans on hold until the completion of their first record since 2003.

He tells PBS: "If you want to think of this as the beginning of the last act, that's how it feels. Christine really fills the gap of the polarity that might exist otherwise, and helps things breathe.

"We got this call from Christine saying she wanted to come back. We were in the middle of touring, the four of us. My initial reaction was, 'Okay - we have to take this with baby steps.' The want to return doesn't mean you can repeat history; it doesn't mean all the tools, all the reference points are still there for it all to work."

But after McVie made a guest appearance in London in 2012, his concerns evaporated. “She gave me a bunch of stuff to take home. I worked on it, came back and she loved it. We went into the studio and came out with the best songs we’ve co-written in years.

“Christine was always a working musician – she always had a great discipline and was very grounded in her craft. The confidence was high that it would come back. But it was daunting in the early days.”

Buckingham has only recently been able to evaluate the impact Mac have left on the music world. “When you’re commercially successful it doesn’t mean it’s going to hold up,” he says. “One of the things we’re finding now is you’ve got the people who were listening to Rumours and Tusk in the day, and you’ve also got young artists who seem to have picked up the mantle of what we were doing, and it makes sense to them.

“It’s just in the last few years we’ve realised that we did make a difference. It’s a nice place to be.”

He adds: “We’re going to continue working on the new album, and the solo stuff will take a back seat for a year or two. A beautiful way to wrap up this last act.”

secret love

01-01-2015, 07:27 AM

I think they will go on forever.God welling. Remember when the Eagles quit a couple times.

The Eagles were finished by 1980, weren't they? Then back again in 1994 for Hell Freezes Over, presumably so called because of how unlikely they all thought a reunion tour was!

Their last studio album was Long Road Out of Eden in 2007, a double album. Then History of the Eagles Tour more recently.

They are a great band, much more capable of getting down to business without all the in fighting Fleetwood Mac has enjoyed, or tolerated.

Macfan4life

01-01-2015, 11:14 AM

I don't think you can compare Fleetwood Mac with the Eagles or other bands when it comes to reunions. The Hell Freezes over tour was in 1994 and Eagle menbers were in their late 40's and early 50's.
Christine is already 71. After this tour and Lindsey's solo stuff is at least 3 years away. Will we see them again? I think there is a good chance. Lindsey, Stevie and Mick and John have really been going strong this past decade. After this tour and album it was going to happen anyway with or without Chris.......a long break.

It will take them a good 3 years to count all the money from this tour anyway :eek:

One thing is certain. I doubt we will ever see such an extensive tour again. So go see them now. If they ever do tour again someday, I bet it would be years from now and a very scaled back version.

Oh if Lindsey is gone for good, they can always ask Billy and Rick to come back. Is anyone up for Stand on the Rock live again? :eek:

FuzzyPlum

01-01-2015, 11:56 AM

michelej1

01-01-2015, 02:44 PM

I wonder where 'the end' would leave Christine- I presume she will return to her quiet life in rural England- or will she settle in the States? Indeed, I wonder where she spent Christmas???

Well, her dogs are over. Assuming she didn't bring them to the US, I imagine she spent Christmas in England.

Michele

Macfanforever

01-02-2015, 12:21 AM

The Eagles were finished by 1980, weren't they? Then back again in 1994 for Hell Freezes Over, presumably so called because of how unlikely they all thought a reunion tour was!

Their last studio album was Long Road Out of Eden in 2007, a double album. Then History of the Eagles Tour more recently.

They are a great band, much more capable of getting down to business without all the in fighting Fleetwood Mac has enjoyed, or tolerated.

Yes without the bickering .I can see them going on too.

I don't think you can compare Fleetwood Mac with the Eagles or other bands when it comes to reunions. The Hell Freezes over tour was in 1994 and Eagle menbers were in their late 40's and early 50's.
Christine is already 71. After this tour and Lindsey's solo stuff is at least 3 years away. Will we see them again? I think there is a good chance. Lindsey, Stevie and Mick and John have really been going strong this past decade. After this tour and album it was going to happen anyway with or without Chris.......a long break.

It will take them a good 3 years to count all the money from this tour anyway :eek:

One thing is certain. I doubt we will ever see such an extensive tour again. So go see them now. If they ever do tour again someday, I bet it would be years from now and a very scaled back version.

Oh if Lindsey is gone for good, they can always ask Billy and Rick to come back. Is anyone up for Stand on the Rock live again? :eek:

Yea The Mac could pop out and do those quicky tours that last about a month.They probably do a casino tour like Stevie does since they already collected the bucks from this tour.

FuzzyPlum

01-02-2015, 07:40 AM

Sydney Morning Herald
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/fleetwood-mac-to-sparkle-again-in-2015-20150102-12gyxf.html

Optimistic observers are preparing for the first (album) in 28 years by Fleetwood Mac's classic '70s line-up, although Lindsay Buckingham says he and Christine McVie are yet to hear any of Stevie Nicks' songs

I haven't heard this before. I wonder if this genuinely is quoted from Lindsey- if it is that then might it suggest there actually are some potential Stevie Nicks songs? (even though LB/CM haven't heard them?).

BlueDenimLamp

01-02-2015, 10:22 AM

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/fm1_zpsd43a5105.png

The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/02/lindsey-buckingham-says-fleetwood-mac-to-enter-last-act)

MikeVielhaber

01-02-2015, 01:02 PM

Macfanforever

01-02-2015, 01:36 PM

I have to say "All good things come to the end".

How sad............................

elle

01-02-2015, 02:09 PM

seems like everyone came back to work after a long holiday week and picked up on those swan song quotes, so interwebs exploded with the follow up articles and interpretations... like this (in addition to Guardian).

[and yes hooky Sad Angel is absolutely essential listening, except for grumpy ledgies :lol: ]

http://www.rocksquare.com/community/musicnews/4728

Lindsey Buckingham Says Fleetwood Mac Are In The “Last Act” Of Their Career
52 minute(s) ago | Music News | By Rock Square

Having finally reunited with Christine McVie in 2014, Fleetwood Mac have booked themselves in seemingly every arena in the U.S. and UK, with concerts scheduled through July of this brand new year. It seems like this revitalized Mac could go on forever, but alas, McVie’s return might just give them a perfect reason to wind down and call it quits for good. Not because things aren’t going well. In fact, it’s just the opposite: they now have a chance to go out on a high note.

“If you want to think of this as the beginning of the last act, that’s how it feels,” Lindsey Buckingham said in a recent interview. “Christine really fills the gap of the polarity that might exist otherwise, and helps things breathe.”

But they’re not putting down payments on retirement cottages quite yet. They’ve still got a lot of touring ahead of them, and then after that, they will get back to work on a new album. According to Buckingham, he and McVie have been batting new song ideas around since 2012, when McVie joined the band on stage in London.

“She gave me a bunch of stuff to take home [after the London concert],” Buckingham explained. “I worked on it, came back and she loved it. We went into the studio and came out with the best songs we’ve co-written in years.”

“We’re going to continue working on the new album,” Buckingham added, “and the solo stuff will take a back seat for a year or two. A beautiful way to wrap up this last act.”

Here’s hoping Fleetwood Mac is still tapping into the creative vein that yielded 2013’s perfect “Sad Angel,” which is absolutely essential listening.

MikeInNV

01-02-2015, 11:46 PM

Fleetwood Mac is named in this list of most anticipated albums of 2015:

https://www.yahoo.com/music/the-10-most-anticipated-albums-of-2015-106032412806.html

There’s unfinished business in the Fleetwood Mac camp. The band’s last studio album, 2003’s Say You Will, received mixed reviews. And while the classic rockers have launched three successful tours since then, and have already announced the On With the Show tour for 2014 and 2015, they have yet to prove they can still make magic in the studio. Now that keyboardist and vocalist Christine McVie — who last played with them in 1998 — has returned, the band members might just have the juice they need to make an album that rivals their ’70s output. In May, multi-instrumentalist Lindsey Buckingham said eight songs were mostly done and that seven of them were co-written by McVie. Yes, it looks like the Mac is back.

Macfanforever

01-03-2015, 12:16 AM

Its all over Google news.

jbrownsjr

01-03-2015, 12:22 AM

The media is so ridiculous... :lol:

HomerMcvie

01-03-2015, 02:16 AM

Buckingham said eight songs were mostly done and that SEVEN of them were co-written by McVie.

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!:blob2::blob2::blob2:

secret love

01-03-2015, 02:59 AM

MikeVielhaber

01-03-2015, 09:02 AM

Lindsey, Mick and John recorded 8 songs together in late 2012, all in Stevie's key. Two of those were Sad Angel and Miss Fantasy ... so does that mean with seven Christine songs that there are 12-13 new Fleetwood Mac songs floating about, somewhere out there in the ether? Wow!

It would seem so, but I don't think this is new information. They had been saying there was about that many songs ready to go for the new album since earlier in the year before the tour even started.

elle

01-03-2015, 01:18 PM

It would seem so, but I don't think this is new information. They had been saying there was about that many songs ready to go for the new album since earlier in the year before the tour even started.
agree. this is nothing new.

now NME regurgitated LB's PBS interview, taking it from the Guardian apparently, but they have the title which fits better with what LB actually said (although they helpfully explain that he meant the tour as the last act... which he didn't, of course :rolleyes:) -

http://www.nme.com/news/fleetwood-mac/82013?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fleetwoodmac

Lindsey Buckingham says Fleetwood Mac are entering their 'last act'

Fleetwood Mac Tickets
Band will tour Britain and headline Isle of Wight festival later this year

Lindsey Buckingham says Fleetwood Mac are entering their 'last act' Photo: GettyFleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham has hinted that the band may be heading into their final years as a band, describing their forthcoming world tour as the "last act" for the group.

Buckingham, who appears in the band alongside Stevie Nicks and Mick Fleetwood, cast doubt on the long-term future of Fleetwood Mac in a new interview with the US TV channel PBS (via The Guardian).

Discussing the possibility of hearing new music from the band, as well as their live plans, Buckingham said: "We're going to continue working on the new album, and the solo stuff will take a back seat for a year or two. A beautiful way to wrap up this last act."

The hopes of new music have been boosted by Christine McVie's return to the band for the first time since 1997.

"She gave me a bunch of stuff to take home," Buckingham told PBS. "I worked on it, came back, and she loved it. We went into the studio and came out with the best songs we’ve co-written in years. Christine really fills the gap of the polarity that might exist otherwise, and helps things breathe."

Fleetwood Mac tour Britain later this year and will also headline The Isle Of Wight Festival in June. That date will be their only UK festival appearance of 2015. Drummer Mick Fleetwood recently denied that Fleetwood Mac will be appearing at Glastonbury in 2015.

Fleetwood Mac will play:

London O2 Arena (May 27, 28, June 22, 24, 26, 27)
Birmingham Genting Arena (June 8, 9, July 4)
Manchester Arena (June 12, July 1)
Glasgow SSE Hydro (June 16, 17, July 8)
Dublin 3Arena (June 20)
Leeds First Direct Arena (June 30, July 5)

To check the availability of Fleetwood Mac tickets and get all the latest listings, go to NME.COM/TICKETS now, or call 0844 858 6765.
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/fleetwood-mac/82013?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fleetwoodmac#VEO1U8JbcbBc44mw.99

FuzzyPlum

01-03-2015, 02:26 PM

now NME regurgitated LB's PBS interview, taking it from the Guardian apparently, but they have the title which fits better with what LB actually said (although they helpfully explain that he meant the tour as the last act... which he didn't, of course :rolleyes:) -

It's both irritating and comical how so many news articles have been derived from one original source and they all present the story slightly differently. Its almost evolving like 'Chinese whispers'.

secret love

01-03-2015, 07:27 PM

Lindsey Buckingham is right, one last album would be a beautiful way to wrap up this last act of Fleetwood Mac, instead of two or three more half-arsed Extended Plays, definitely!

Hurry up Stevie ...I don't care if she just gives them Space Needle, Joan of Arc, Julia and What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done for You?

If it means that I get to hear Lindsey's new songs and especially his collaborations with Christine, then I'm happy with that.

Macfanforever

01-04-2015, 10:32 AM

With Lindsey chatting with PBS.I wonder if they crack a deal on pro filming this tour to air on PBS like the Boston show.

If this will be the end.It better get on film.

BLY

01-04-2015, 10:37 AM

With Lindsey chatting with PBS.I wonder if they crack a deal on pro filming this tour to air on PBS like the Boston show.

If this will be the end.It better get on film.

........and a quality recording of the full show.

Macfanforever

01-04-2015, 11:28 AM

........and a quality recording of the full show.

I agree but it would get edited for those boring pledge drives on PBS unless one of the Mac host the pledge drive..

Hope for a complete show on DVD.

Also it would be better without the special over produced effects.

HomerMcvie

01-04-2015, 01:54 PM

I agree but it would get edited for those boring pledge drives on PBS unless one of the Mac host the pledge drive..

Hope for a complete show on DVD.

Also it would be better without the special over produced effects.

I have two friends that work for PBS. One's an anchor, and the other one is over all the scheduling of programming. Both very good friends, but the latter has access to EVERYTHING. I'll bet I can get anything available from him. We do dinner/drinks every Wednesday...I'll plant the seed this Wed!!!:angel:

secondhandchain

01-17-2015, 04:25 AM

Stevie is not going to participate in a new album. The writing is on the wall with all her quotes lately.

KenshiMaster16

01-17-2015, 06:51 AM

Or she's simply just trying to play hardball to get her way about something, probably over who would produce her stuff or when the sessions for her would actually take place.

Stevie wouldn't dare be left out of the album because if the sessions were to be released as an LP, all public media eyes would be on her for her glaring omission and seeming 'unsportsmanlike' behavior due to Christine's return, especially once the band begins touting that she wanted no part of it, and especially then if she shows up for another 'Hits' tour after the albums release. No matter how much anyone here likes Stevie, if an album goes down without her after she just toured with them, we know exactly who is going to be pegged as the bad guy no matter the facts.

She will cave because it'll be the same reason she caved when Mick went public about not being sure whether Stevie would tour with them again. This is purely band politics. If an album is put out and the band wants an album 100% but Stevie wants no part, she needs to quit the band or else the media backlash will strike at her. Everybody and their mother, their brother, their sister and their neighbors want a final Rumours lineup album. And if it doesn't happen, she's going to get blamed. I highly doubt her ego could take the blow.

It will happen come Hell or high water.

teedeerocks

01-17-2015, 07:50 AM

Maybe that's why Stevie is reluctant to record with them, she doesn't want it to be over.

Great point.I never thought about that.Maybe she doesn't want to deal with the tremendous emotional pain of the last curtain call.To tell you the truth,either do I:(

nicepace

01-17-2015, 10:16 AM

Everybody and their mother, their brother, their sister and their neighbors want a final Rumours lineup album.

I for one would be entirely happy with an album by Mick, John, Lindsey, and Christine.

elle

01-17-2015, 03:51 PM

This is purely band politics. If an album is put out and the band wants an album 100% but Stevie wants no part, she needs to quit the band or else the media backlash will strike at her. Everybody and their mother, their brother, their sister and their neighbors want a final Rumours lineup album. And if it doesn't happen, she's going to get blamed. I highly doubt her ego could take the blow.

It will happen come Hell or high water.

i agree this is all band politics: the band is trying to get Stevie to work with them and she doesn't want to yet wants to stay in the band (and not get blamed for no album). i see her RS cover story fitting nicely into her agenda and against the band's.

if you read some of the fan comments, the backlash to RS story is against the band not wanting to do a new album, cause it was presented as SN speaking for the band. story is nicely crafted so that it perpetuates the picture of them still having childish or inconsequential fights of ex-lovers, not that they are actually disagreeing about something substantial and artistic, like a direction the band should take (didn't they really disagree about that since Tusk????? guess that story is not nearly as sexy as ex-lovers fighting!).

michelej1

01-17-2015, 10:03 PM

if you read some of the fan comments, the backlash to RS story is against the band not wanting to do a new album, cause it was presented as SN speaking for the band. story is nicely crafted so that it perpetuates the picture of them still having childish or inconsequential fights of ex-lovers, not that they are actually disagreeing about something substantial and artistic, like a direction the band should take (didn't they really disagree about that since Tusk????? guess that story is not nearly as sexy as ex-lovers fighting!).

This makes my stomach turn, Elle. No wonder I never read the comments.

Michele

PenguinHead

01-18-2015, 12:26 AM

Lindsey has been very inspired with his collaborations with Christine, and seems determined/resolved to wrap up Fleetwood Mac with one more album- a final gesture to themselves and their legions of fans.

Stevie is a very sentimental lady. Despite any contentions she may hold, Fleetwood Mac made her rich and famous, giving her the opportunity to pursue her own muse. Knowing that the band has a pending expiration date, it's hard to believe she would take this particular time to opt out.

Though she has expressed some ambivalence - unsure of what she wants to do-I feel, once the tour is over, she will be on board with contributing and finishing the album, since there will be no turning back; this will be her absolute final commitment to them. She'll be free from all the oppression and obstruction she apparently perceives. But she will express lament and never stop continuing to tell redundant stories about Lindsey and the band.

teedeerocks

01-18-2015, 01:08 AM

Stevie is not going to participate in a new album. The writing is on the wall with all her quotes lately.

And the writing has been on the wall for years that her ability to draw attention is impeccable.She's got it mastered.

HomerMcvie

01-18-2015, 04:04 AM

Stevie is a very sentimental lady. Despite any contentions she may hold, Fleetwood Mac made her rich and famous, giving her the opportunity to pursue her own muse. Knowing that the band has a pending expiration date, it's hard to believe she would take this particular time to opt out.

Though she has expressed some ambivalence - unsure of what she wants to do-I feel, once the tour is over, she will be on board with contributing and finishing the album, since there will be no turning back; this will be her absolute final commitment to them. She'll be free from all the oppression and obstruction she apparently perceives. But she will express lament and never stop continuing to tell redundant stories about Lindsey and the band.
god I loathe her, and her problems. She has become the epitome of being a spoiled princess. And yet lacks the class to stand upright, and honor the band that afforded her her life!!!

elle

03-19-2015, 07:38 AM

just a speculation. discuss!

BigBigLove

03-19-2015, 07:54 AM

My vote: Yes.

Will he receive cowriting credit for them? That I'm not so sure about, haha...

WildHearted

03-19-2015, 10:11 AM

Never in a million years.

But I hope I'm wrong.

sue

03-19-2015, 11:55 AM

jbrownsjr

03-19-2015, 12:09 PM

Of course! I Know I'm Now Wrong!

MikeVielhaber

03-19-2015, 01:01 PM

I think there's very little chance of that happening.

pauls90

03-19-2015, 01:15 PM

Nope.

Not a chance.

pauls90

03-19-2015, 01:17 PM

So the Europe tour ends in Dublin on July 10th.........
Next concert November 9th in Geelong .(so Far)
Can they make The Album in 3 months or less, we'll give them 2weeks off for a short vacation.
Then into the studio........
Methinks not......

Hmm. Probably not. But..they could probably get a lot more done on it! By then hopefully Stevie will have turned up with some material (if she's doing it), so production on it can start. We'll see though.

FuzzyPlum

03-19-2015, 01:45 PM

No. Stevie will do a bit of solo work. Whether that be a mini-tour or solo recording I don't know but there's nothing to indicate she has any intentions of recording for/with FM.
Hope I'm wrong, of course.

Macfanforever

03-19-2015, 02:01 PM

Most of the songs are done I guess.

If it was done like Stevie's 24K with no holdups and bickering aside I say yes.

If not I would be happy to see Stevie do a small tour to promote 24K before it gets anymore staler.

BlueDenimLamp

03-19-2015, 02:37 PM

Will Stevie and Lindsey write together the way Stevie and Dave Stewart write together? or the way Lindsey and Christine write together? I think the chances of SN & LB working together that way are slim & none...If Stevie participates and if she brings Dave in he will have a profound impact on the sound of her FM songs...Other than his addition of guitar & vocals LB's influence on her FM songs ( for maybe the first time ever ) will be minimal...

gssmith

03-19-2015, 02:50 PM

They will sing together for sure. Whether it's backing vocals or a full on duet, but writing a song together? My vote is no.
I love when they all sing together: love in store, early live stuff, little lies. Behind the mask songs, much of say you will. Just a few examples.
Stevie has always done beautiful backing vocals for her self, which is nice too.
Just no out side vocals!! No Sharon or Lori. I love them but they don't belong in FWM's studio. Dave Stewart though? I appreciate his production. They've had outside producers before. It's good to have different opinions. Did I go off topic?

FuzzyPlum

03-19-2015, 02:59 PM

I'm trying to imagine what is more likely... a Stevie/Lindsey collaboration or a Stevie/Christine collaboration. More likely a Stevie/John collaboration!

michelej1

03-19-2015, 03:47 PM

No, I don't think that Stevie and Lindsey will be co-writers on a song, especially not any new songs and I don't see any reasons why they should be. They have never done so in the past and I don't think starting now would help band relations. Frozen Love doesn't exactly count. Co-writing is not their forte as a duo.

Now, if there are older songs, then maybe one of them might give it to the other. If Stevie has old lyrics, she might give them to Lindsey and he could do some music. We have speculated as to whether Deep Dense was a Stevie song, based on what Javier said. So, I could see that happening, Lindsey working and adding to a song she has already written years ago, but not them having to collaborate in real time together.

Michele

elle

03-19-2015, 06:04 PM

So the Europe tour ends in Dublin on July 10th.........
Next concert November 9th in Geelong .(so Far)
Can they make The Album in 3 months or less, we'll give them 2weeks off for a short vacation.
Then into the studio........
Methinks not......

perhaps. they already have Lindsey's and Christine's songs mostly done. so if they are working on Stevie's songs now, on the road... :nod:

elle

03-19-2015, 06:11 PM

If Stevie has old lyrics, she might give them to Lindsey and he could do some music. We have speculated as to whether Deep Dense was a Stevie song, based on what Javier said. So, I could see that happening, Lindsey working and adding to a song she has already written years ago, but not them having to collaborate in real time together.

no don't think they are / will be collaborating in real time, in the same room.

but i see a possibility of her giving him maybe either her newer poems, or skeletal songs (her description of his contribution to Landslide at Nashville show would fit that kind of scenario) to work on them. to be her catalyst. ;)

michelej1

03-19-2015, 06:17 PM

no don't think they are / will be collaborating in real time, in the same room.

but i see a possibility of her giving him maybe either her newer poems, or skeletal songs (her description of his contribution to Landslide at Nashville show would fit that kind of scenario) to work on them. to be her catalyst. ;)

I think he's a catalyst through production efforts (i.e. the Landslide remarks she made the other night), not through writing things with her.

Michele

elle

03-19-2015, 06:26 PM

I think he's a catalyst through production efforts (i.e. the Landslide remarks she made the other night), not through writing things with her.

Michele

could be. i don't know. and as you probably know, personally i don't really care. plus i think if he was someone else without their sordid history, he would have had co-writing credits on more than FL. whatever shape his catalytic activities take, if that means new songs he and Christine worked on will actually come out in this lifetime, i'm onboard with that.

and i also couldn't care less whether or not SN will bi*ch and complain about him ruining her songs two years later. i just want to hear all those songs we've been hearing about since 2012.

DauphineMarie

03-19-2015, 06:41 PM

Once in a million years a lady like her...

Would write a song with equal ownership, with her archnemisis/greatestloveofalltime

So no.

michelej1

03-19-2015, 07:03 PM

and i also couldn't care less whether or not SN will bi*ch and complain about him ruining her songs two years later. i just want to hear all those songs we've been hearing about since 2012.

I care. I'd rather he not produce her songs and maybe not even play guitar on them, but just sing on them.

I don't want to hear it, because the complaints will last for a good 10 years. If there is a documentary in 2025, the complaints will be revived in that documentary. I don't want to go out like that. I loved Thrown Down and she doesn't. I'd like to get more of the magic they make together, but it's not magic to her any more and that makes a difference.

Michele

Macfanforever

03-19-2015, 08:08 PM

A big fat NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.What do I know.............LOL.......

But we never know with FM..

As far I know Lindsey worked out fine with his help on Stevie's Soldiers Angel.

SteveMacD

03-19-2015, 08:09 PM

No, not in three months.

My experience has been that it's no less than six months if everything goes as planned. I work for one of the most prolific artists ever, and I can't think of when it's been less.

nicole21290

03-19-2015, 08:14 PM

They can work together - on the road or wherever. Writing songs together? No, I don't think that will happen for a FM project at this point in time. Not in the 'traditional' way.

"She’s not a witch, but she has an attraction to those mystical creatures because they’re fun to write about. So she gave me the rights to her music and she and Lindsay [sic] Buckingham are working on a special sort of redo of a song they did about a witch."
- Ryan Murphy, 2013

bombaysaffires

03-19-2015, 11:15 PM

perhaps. they already have Lindsey's and Christine's songs mostly done. so if they are working on Stevie's songs now, on the road... :nod:

Where's that "not gonna happen" gif when we need it??

nicole21290

03-20-2015, 12:09 AM

Where's that "not gonna happen" gif when we need it??

You called? I have a whole set of them, lol.

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PenguinHead

03-20-2015, 03:54 AM

Never once in a million years will Stevie and Lindsey ever collaborate in that manner. They have never had a Simon and Garfunkel or Hall and Oates type of collaboration and chemistry, Why would anybody expect that now?

I don't believe in the perpetuated notion that Stevie doesn't want Lindsey producing her songs. He is responsible for taking her raw talent and crafting the songs that launched her into stardom. She is well aware of that.

I think the experience of recording Say You Will really soured her creative relationship with Lindsey because of various circumstances. Without Christine there, the balance of power shifted. It's not so much of how she didn't like how he produced her songs, its more about how she didn't feel connected to the process. It was a dark time in her life, and the enduring isolation suffered during the recording that album made it even darker.

Dave Stewart was like a beacon of light that opened her eyes to a world where recording can be a fun experience that's expedient and full of levity. Let's face it: Lindsey is a pretty serious and controlling guy who likes working alone. His process is fastidious and solitary. Dave is the polar opposite personality. His process is spontaneous and collaborative. So I can understand her hesitance in committing to work with Lindsey.

With Christine back in the fray, I assume Stevie would love to create new music with her. But she doesn't want to Lindsey to rein over everything. Lindsey has spoken in the past, entertaining the possibility of bringing in a co-producer -- be it Dave or someone else. I think that would be the ideal situation which Stevie would be more amenable with, as Lindsey's influence would be countered and balanced.

shackin'up

03-20-2015, 08:38 AM

vivfox

03-20-2015, 09:46 AM

BigAl84

03-20-2015, 11:00 AM

this band couldn't fart in a mason jar in three months...

bombaysaffires

03-20-2015, 11:27 AM

You called? I have a whole set of them, lol.

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it never gets old :laugh::woohoo:

louielouie2000

03-20-2015, 12:22 PM

Macfanforever

03-20-2015, 12:32 PM

Well, in a weird way you can say that they usually do co-write. That dressingroom Wild Heart shows a LB track under a SN melody/ lyric. If that version did appear on mirage, I'm sure it would have been credited as a Nicks-song. And now we know it as a Nicks song AND a LB song Can't Go Back. Lindsey always have lent his musical windowdressideas to songs. It's just a matter of choice if you count something as a cowrite or see it as an arrangement. Either way, he put his stamp on almost everything she ever did under the Macflag.

Yea. I wish they would mash up two songs and release it someday.I love the arrangement on the dressingroom video.To bad she could not use Lindsey's mix for her studio version.It was heading to the Mirage album. I would die if FM starts playing Can't Go Back live and Stevie walks up to the mike and start singing "WildHeart". The casual would say "What the heck is that" Us FM fans would say."Oh my god".....

By wishful thinking. Maybe the "Wildheart ,Cant Go Back" combo mix could show up her next 24K album.I would love to see her recreate it like it was in the video.

Macfanforever

03-20-2015, 12:36 PM

this band couldn't fart in a mason jar in three months...

Hahahahahaha..........LOL..

They are all gassed out and exhausted now.........LOL.......

They need to recharge their batteries.

They remind me of the Energizer bunny .The keep on going and going.I'm proud of them at that age but I'm starting to worry about their health.

Macfanforever

03-20-2015, 12:49 PM

I honestly see the band taking a much needed break from each other during those 3 months. Perhaps after that November show they will reorganize and try to figure out the album gameplan. Either way, I don't see these kids doing anything substantial until next year. I hope dearly I'm proven wrong.

I agree .They need the time off.They can relax and go over some of the new tunes for the new album.

Probably would be a fat chance if Stevie would do any solo touring and solo works .Shes already been around on the road with FM almost twice already in the last 5 plus months but I would love to see her sneak in a few solo dates if she can.She probably do some TV/Radio interviews though.

shackin'up

03-20-2015, 03:03 PM

Gerald, I'm surprised you don't know this. It could never be credited as a Nicks song. During that particular photo shoot, Stevie was playing all the musical tracks that had just been laid down by Fleetwood Mac. When the future Can't Go Back came on, Stevie and the girls had already been singing The Wild Heart to it and were simply singing it for Annie Leibovitz at that moment.

Ha Ha, I usually don't know anything compared to people over here. Thanks for pointing it out.
Still, the basic idea of my story stands. I bet a lot of Lindsey's rough songideas or improvised tracks without a real destination became parts of arrangements. And that it was not always clear what was a cowrite or an arrangement.

michelej1

03-20-2015, 05:42 PM

I honestly see the band taking a much needed break from each other during those 3 months. Perhaps after that November show they will reorganize and try to figure out the album gameplan. Either way, I don't see these kids doing anything substantial until next year. I hope dearly I'm proven wrong.

I can see them needing a break after the tour and I think it can only benefit them. No one wants them in the studio burnt out and cranky. Let them separate and when they reconvene maybe they'll be glad to reunite and reignite the creative spark. I think taking the rest of this year off is great. Now that we're so close to it, 2016 doesn't sound bad, but 2017 did.

Michele

tabruns

03-20-2015, 10:11 PM

just a speculation. discuss!

No, Buckingham has said that he can interpret her music (arrange it) but they have a hard time writing together because they start out as such polar opposites. But even Christine has said that she's tried writing with Stevie and wasn't able to either. Dave Stewart apparently just has the knack.

PenguinHead

03-21-2015, 03:20 AM

PenguinHead

03-21-2015, 03:59 AM

Yea. I wish they would mash up two songs and release it someday.I love the arrangement on the dressingroom video.To bad she could not use Lindsey's mix for her studio version.It was heading to the Mirage album. I would die if FM starts playing Can't Go Back live and Stevie walks up to the mike and start singing "WildHeart". The casual would say "What the heck is that" Us FM fans would say."Oh my god".....

By wishful thinking. Maybe the "Wildheart ,Cant Go Back" combo mix could show up her next 24K album.I would love to see her recreate it like it was in the video.

They are two individual songs with no association to each other. That video clip that has been severely misinterpreted. Too bad.

elle

03-21-2015, 11:20 AM

Ha Ha, I usually don't know anything compared to people over here. Thanks for pointing it out.
Still, the basic idea of my story stands. I bet a lot of Lindsey's rough songideas or improvised tracks without a real destination became parts of arrangements. And that it was not always clear what was a cowrite or an arrangement.

agree. in different circumstances, i bet many of those songs, possibly including Landslide even from what she said about it just recently and from his video about how to play the guitar parts, would be credited as co-writes.

he does seem to have enormous respect for her as a songwriter, whether or not those songs were co-writes, arrangements or whatever.

Macfanforever

03-21-2015, 11:53 AM

They are two individual songs with no association to each other. That video clip that has been severely misinterpreted. Too bad.

Yes .Thats what made it different.

ChickenStu

03-26-2015, 10:58 AM

I very much doubt this album will be out this year at all. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see it.

Macfanforever

03-26-2015, 12:45 PM

I very much doubt this album will be out this year at all. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see it.

Yea .I'm not loosing sleep over it.With the Mac .We never know.

michelej1

03-27-2015, 12:20 AM

By Kevin Johnson St. Louis Post Dispatch, March 26, 2015

http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/kevin-johnson/fleetwood-mac-is-on-with-the-show-christine-mcvie-in/article_bc381dd6-479d-592c-8070-15705b399eea.html

Fleetwood Mac is 'On With the Show,' Christine McVie in tow

Fleetwood Mac is feeling more whole these days on its “On With the Show” tour.

“On with the show” has seemingly been the band’s motto. Even without keyboardist-vocalist Christine McVie, it had embarked on tour after tour. But after a 16-year absence, McVie — who wrote “Say You Love Me,” “Little Lies,” “Don’t Stop” and “Everywhere” — is back in the fold.

With McVie’s return, guitarist-vocalist Lindsey Buckingham says the group has come full circle. “It’s a little bit more complete.”

In Fleetwood Mac’s McVie-less years, Buckingham says he and Mick Fleetwood, Stevie Nicks and John McVie were “for the most part fine.”

“I certainly have no regret about those tours,” he says. “They were quite successful for what they were. You have to look at Fleetwood Mac as this band of people who maybe on paper don’t belong in the same band together, but the symmetry we create makes it work well.”

With McVie away, Buckingham says the band’s energy was different, though for him it was also a period of growth.

Nicks represented one end of the band, and he represented another.

“Now, with Christine, there’s a middle ground — a certain level of coherence,” Buckingham says.

“Christine is very grounded as a musician and the way she approaches her songs and her writing,” he says. “It’s all based around a different center from what’s mine or Stevie’s. And Christine being one of two females in the band, she provides some coherence on a social level for Stevie.”

Having McVie back in the mix means a new level of rehearsals is necessary.

“We needed to dust off Christine’s material, get that back up to speed in the context of the way we approach shows now,” Buckingham says. “It’s different from when she was last with the band. It’s not just about the individual songs. I’m sure we could do ‘Go Your Own Way’ with no rehearsal and do it fine. But it’s more to it than that. Each song is like a movie.”

At this point in the game, preparing for a tour is something that’s natural for Buckingham. “Obviously, the experience counts for a lot, and over time you kind of take it as your own kind of normal.”

He says Fleetwood Mac knows its fans are coming to hear the classics, such as “Gypsy,” “Second Hand News,” “The Chain” and “Landslide,” but the band is still working on new music. An album is about halfway finished, and Buckingham says it’s one of the best things the group has ever done. “It’s so brilliant, so meaningful to me.”

“You do come to that point of realization that maybe the audience isn’t that interested in new stuff. They’re coming to hear a body of work,” he says. “If the audience went away not having heard a lot of the hits, they would feel cheated.”

But Buckingham describes the band’s new album as a little bit of everything — in tune with the times while also being familiar.

“I don’t want to market anything that isn’t authentic,” he says. “I don’t think we can try to imitate anything. That’s the wrong approach. You go for what you like and put your own spin on it.”

The band members have been submitting music, including McVie.

“She said she was writing again, and she gave me a bunch of raw stuff to listen to,” Buckingham says. “I took liberties with it and did for her what I’ve always done. And I sent her a bunch of stuff of mine — song ideas I didn’t put melodies on. She came back with brilliant things.”

Whatever Fleetwood Mac comes up with, Buckingham expects it will be as timeless as the music in the band’s deep repertoire. He knows the band’s music is timeless; he hears its influences elsewhere.

“I hear our sound surfacing with different groups,” he says. “You don’t know if these kids are children of people who had these albums or what. I can hear a little bit of it in Haim. They’re great gals — really talented.”

Another album would naturally suggest yet another Fleetwood Mac tour is in the works.

“I don’t know — it’s hard for me to get a sense of it in any collective way because I know I don’t feel any differently than I did 30 years ago, physically and mentally,” he says. “I’m playing better, and creatively I’m at the top of my game. If it was just me, it’s an irrelevant thing to talk about now. But that’s not necessarily true of everyone. I can’t speak to Stevie or John or Christine.

“Mick is an animal. He’ll probably drop dead onstage one day.”

With McVie contributing to the album, she apparently will remain a part of the band for the foreseeable future.

After the current tour, Buckingham is sure the band will take a couple of years off to finish the album.

“I would be surprised if we didn’t go out with a brand-new piece of product,” he says. “I would be disappointed if we didn’t tour that. We have at least one last act out there.”

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nicole21290

03-27-2015, 01:16 AM

Haim again!?

:laugh:

FuzzyPlum

03-27-2015, 02:44 AM

Great to read and then I hit the penultimate line.
That left me feeling rather deflated.

Jondalar

03-27-2015, 02:53 AM

They will be too old to tour again.

PenguinHead

03-27-2015, 03:40 AM

I'm glad to hear to hear him still talking about the new album. It sounds like he and Christine made some great songs together. He seems very proud of their work and excited to release it. I think the album will be worth the wait. If it's going to take another year or two, I'm sure Stevie will eventually come around.

My only frustration is that this has turned into the never-ending tour. They must be running on autopilot, hence same set list night after night. I can't imagine how they avoid getting burned out and sick of each other. I'll feel better when the tour ends...lol.

In the aftermath, while we wait for them to finish their album, maybe they will release a DVD/CD of their current tour. Or maybe re-releases of Mirage and Tango in the Night with bonus tracks.

I certainly want their new album in physical form - vinyl and CD. Digital-only released music leaves a lot to be desired. I want hold and see it as much as hearing it, for it makes a stronger connection and identity.

pauls90

03-27-2015, 01:07 PM

They will be too old to tour again.

The Stones are getting ready to tour......

BlueDenimLamp

03-27-2015, 01:22 PM

LB want's to tour "New Product"??? Guess he'll have to wait for 2017 since Stevie will most certainly take at least a year off at the minimum...They will save "New Product" for the next tour because they need a selling point to justify the high ticket prices...

WildHearted

03-27-2015, 01:29 PM

I'd be down for a Lindsey/Haim collab.

Richard B

03-27-2015, 02:42 PM

My only frustration is that this has turned into the never-ending tour. They must be running on autopilot, hence same set list night after night. I can't imagine how they avoid getting burned out and sick of each other. I'll feel better when the tour ends...lol.

You think so? The tour started in September. I don't think it's been that long at all. Seems fairly normal for a successful world tour and ending towards the end of this year. :shrug:

aleuzzi

03-27-2015, 02:49 PM

You think so? The tour started in September. I don't think it's been that long at all. Seems fairly normal for a successful world tour and ending towards the end of this year. :shrug:

Given their ages, and the amount of shows they've played in nearly eight months, not to mention the as-of-yet unconquered world legs, I'd say this tour is ridiculously long and beyond what any of them should be doing at this point. Twenty year olds would find it grueling and taxing. I can't imagine how these five do it, and I can't imagine any of them wanting to jump into the studio immediately when it's done. The new timeline suggests a 2017 release date. I would not be surprised if it comes in 2018. This band exhausts me.

Richard B

03-27-2015, 02:58 PM

Given their ages, and the amount of shows they've played in nearly eight months, not to mention the as-of-yet unconquered world legs, I'd say this tour is ridiculously long and beyond what any of them should be doing at this point. Twenty year olds would find it grueling and taxing. I can't imagine how these five do it, and I can't imagine any of them wanting to jump into the studio immediately when it's done. The new timeline suggests a 2017 release date. I would not be surprised if it comes in 2018. This band exhausts me.

They got trainers now! ;)
No, but looking at Unleashed and the tour in 2013, they are long. Remember, 2013 would have been longer had John not gotten ill. This tour is not quite 8 months yet. They had time off in December and some time earlier this year.

I just don't see this as some weird, never-ending tour. This band has been touring a lot these past years. That's all they seem to do.

Jondalar

03-27-2015, 04:34 PM

No more tours. They can't waste the time! Newsflash!

vivfox

03-27-2015, 05:39 PM

Given their ages, and the amount of shows they've played in nearly eight months, not to mention the as-of-yet unconquered world legs, I'd say this tour is ridiculously long and beyond what any of them should be doing at this point. Twenty year olds would find it grueling and taxing..
I disagree with all of this. You and me and the average musician would be exhausted but that's because we have to carry our own luggage and make all our own travel arrangements. If I was greeted by thousands of screaming fans and then chauffeured from the arena to the hotel in a limo and then driven to a private jumbo jet with a staff waiting to cater to my every need, you can be damn sure I would never be complaining about any of the traveling I had to do. I would love to be able to lay down in a comfortable bed while flying through the air from city to city instead of crammed into a seat that my hips are too wide for, praying and hoping the person in the window seat doesn't have to get up to use the restroom because it is a nightmare for me to get out of my seat and back into it again.

chiliD

03-27-2015, 05:58 PM

I'm glad to hear to hear him still talking about the new album. It sounds like he and Christine made some great songs together. He seems very proud of their work and excited to release it.

OF COURSE! He's not going to sit there and say "oh, our new stuff is crap". Every time there's a new album on the horizon, whether it's Fleetwood Mac or his own, he always says something to the effect of "it's the best stuff we've ever done". It's a marketing ploy.

aleuzzi

03-27-2015, 06:36 PM

They got trainers now! ;)
No, but looking at Unleashed and the tour in 2013, they are long. Remember, 2013 would have been longer had John not gotten ill. This tour is not quite 8 months yet. They had time off in December and some time earlier this year.

I just don't see this as some weird, never-ending tour. This band has been touring a lot these past years. That's all they seem to do.

Your last two sentences are exactly what I feel. My frustration is that yet another LONG tour that won't end until late November (don't forget Australia) is keeping them from making new music. I want new music. I think this is what was frustrating Jondlar in his/her first post--and I agreed.

aleuzzi

03-27-2015, 06:39 PM

I disagree with all of this. You and me and the average musician would be exhausted but that's because we have to carry our own luggage and make all our own travel arrangements. If I was greeted by thousands of screaming fans and then chauffeured from the arena to the hotel in a limo and then driven to a private jumbo jet with a staff waiting to cater to my every need, you can be damn sure I would never be complaining about any of the traveling I had to do. I would love to be able to lay down in a comfortable bed while flying through the air from city to city instead of crammed into a seat that my hips are too wide for, praying and hoping the person in the window seat doesn't have to get up to use the restroom because it is a nightmare for me to get out of my seat and back into it again.

Even with all of the luxury and the personal trainers, each concert and the preparation for each concert takes a huge physical toll that would exhaust most people half their ages. It's easy to disagree with this sentiment because we aren't doing it. No matter how much is taken care of for them, they still have to get up there and do 2.5 hour shows every couple of days. They still have to travel. They still have to rehearse. They still have press interviews.

vivfox

03-27-2015, 10:08 PM

Even with all of the luxury and the personal trainers, each concert and the preparation for each concert takes a huge physical toll that would exhaust most people half their ages. It's easy to disagree with this sentiment because we aren't doing it. No matter how much is taken care of for them, they still have to get up there and do 2.5 hour shows every couple of days. They still have to travel. They still have to rehearse. They still have press interviews.

Tears on my pillow.:woohoo:

aleuzzi

03-28-2015, 12:27 AM

Tears on my pillow.:woohoo:

Oh, good, so you do understand....:)

michelej1

03-28-2015, 03:46 AM

Vancouver Sun Return of the Mac By Francois Marchand,

Mick Fleetwood talks new album, Christine McVie, and the end of Fleetwood Mac

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Return/10926148/story.html#ixzz3VfUSraUr

Never say die once wrote Black Sabbath.

For pop-rockers Fleetwood Mac, the saying couldn’t be any more true.

The band recently reunited with long gone singer and keyboardist Christine McVie, who rejoined Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood after 16 years away.

If you ask Fleetwood, the founding drummer of the group, reuniting with McVie has reinvigorated the Mac, whose members have had well-documented complex and drug-fuelled relationships, especially around the time of their 1977 classic album Rumours, which remains one of the best-selling albums of all time.

In a recent conversation with The Vancouver Sun, Fleetwood, 67, opened up about returning to the studio with McVie in tow, the band’s most recent string of tour dates, and what the future holds for Fleetwood Mac.

Q: We just saw Fleetwood Mac in Vancouver in November. How does it feel to come back to our neck of the woods so fast?

A: It feels good. You can’t go anywhere unless you’re wanted. (Laughs.) So that’s a good feeling for us old “gigsters.” And we happen to adore that neck of the woods anyhow. We always love coming back (to Vancouver). It’s a beautiful place. It’s one of the towns where you go, “Oof, if only we had two days off there.” As a musician, this tour has unfolded beyond anything anyone might have thought, including ourselves. So it’s gratifying — it’s nice to be loved. Off we go again: It’s the never-ending tour.

Q: So you don’t see an end in the foreseeable future for Fleetwood Mac in its current incarnation?

A: Not in terms of “the end of the band” or saying goodbye. No. Unless I don’t know something. (Laughs.) I feel thoroughly employed. We’re working all the way through next Christmas. That’s almost far enough. We’re talking and feeling really excited about creating new music. It looks like a viable future ahead of us, as far as I can see.

If you want a more philosophical answer as to, “Do you ever see this coming to an end?” Yeah, I think we’d all be fairly crazy at this point (not to think about it). But then you start thinking about the Rolling Stones or Elton John and you go, “Hmm.” And you start looking around — you don’t want to be Tony Bennett touring at 85 years old (Bennett is in fact 88).

Having said that, we’re a working band and we’re working harder than we did when we were in our 30s. So go figure. The enthusiasm to do it is very much alive. But time itself speaks to you and you go, “Do I actually think in all sensibility think that any of us — and I can only speak for myself — that we’ll still be doing this 10 years from now?” No. “Do I visualize I’ll still be a musician enjoying playing in some shape or form?” Yes. It’s what we do.

Q: How is the chemistry in the band right now, with Christine coming back into the fold? Having done one round of touring, do you feel things are better than you expected?

A: Oh yeah. Any which way you look at where we are as a band, the fact is that Stevie is hugely enjoying having her old girlfriend back. They’re friends, you know? They’re like the funniest odd couple. She has a partner and she’s not just surrounded by ex-boyfriends. So it’s all good.

Musically, it’s astoundingly complete. We were happy doing what we were doing for many, many years without Chris. But if I had to put a line in the sand, I would say this is something that is really almost exclusively unique: That someone comes back to a band that’s doing what we’re doing at the level we’re doing it. The Rolling Stones don’t have Bill Wyman up there. They have a great band and Ronnie (Wood) is a Rolling Stone, but it’s not Brian Jones.

We are complete and we’re lucky and we’re enjoying it. It’s a great way for me as herder, someone who’s been trying to keep this band going. I couldn’t think of a better ending, when this does end, that we’re all on the same page and writing the same last chapter, which is no time soon, as far as I know.

Q: You’re working on a new album and some of the tracks are already completed. The only thing missing are Stevie’s vocals. What’s holding that back?

A: Touring until next Christmas. (Laughs.) That would do it, you know? We all have lives and stuff, so the little breaks that we get really aren’t that big. So we’re working and we’re trying to find ways for all of that to make sense. At some point, probably after this coming Christmas, we’ll be ready to address all of that.

We have full intention of not leaving for a five-year gap. It would be lunacy at this point. We want to keep going. Two years after we come off the road is what most sensible bands do, otherwise you overstay your welcome anyhow. It goes very, very quickly when you’re putting albums together and thinking of fun things to project and work on. Our whole chemistry is about being busy for pretty large and undetermined amount of times.

Q: What are some of the new songs about? What inspiration did you draw from on the new material?

A: I wish I could answer you but I’m not the songwriter. As they say, I’m “just the drummer.”

(The material is) really powerful. Lindsey’s a given because I’ve been working on and off with Lindsey anyhow. But Chris disappeared for nigh on 16 years. All I can say is that the chemistry between her and Lindsey as songwriters used to be fairly detached, and Lindsey would come in very strong producing and interpreting the material. This time, to my knowledge, they have worked on songs together, taking Lindsey’s ideas and then Chris coming in and finishing with melodies and words. That’s something, to my knowledge, that’s entirely new. It’s great. I think Lindsey is finding it very gratifying that it’s gone to the next step with Chris and vice versa.

So all of those juices seem to be very intact and it’s not totally necessary for a band like us to reinvent the wheel — and we don’t. But I have to say it’s a nice extra texture to know that that spirit is still alive and well in all the songwriters in this band.

Q: You recently revisited all of Fleetwood Mac’s history, both glorious and inglorious, in your new book Play On. If anything, out of all the turbulence and the madness and the fun and the excitement of being in Fleetwood Mac over the years, what do you want people to remember?

A: I hope the overview for the band I’ve been in since 1967 is that, no matter what, we really genuinely cared about our craft. Not only were we lucky — especially myself — to survive the lifestyle choices that we made, but I truly pay homage to the fact that Fleetwood Mac, as an institution, demanded that you had some semblance of responsibility. And I think it saved a lot of us, certainly myself.

I think Stevie has been really outspoken about our lifestyle, so I can share that her dedication — even with the huge distractions — has always been about the art, and that goes without saying for anyone that’s ever been in this band. This incarnation of Fleetwood Mac speaks to that. That’s what I would hope people have felt.

I think we’re able to be a little reflective, just as the passing of time itself has allowed us not to wallow in what it was. It is quite gratifying to realize that you have cared about what you do.

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Return/10926148/story.html#ixzz3VfUJS0i6

michelej1

03-28-2015, 03:48 AM

There's definitely been a switch in tone reflected by both Mick and Lindsey's recent interviews.

Everyone's being friendly now.

Michele

michelej1

03-28-2015, 03:53 AM

OF COURSE! He's not going to sit there and say "oh, our new stuff is crap". Every time there's a new album on the horizon, whether it's Fleetwood Mac or his own, he always says something to the effect of "it's the best stuff we've ever done". It's a marketing ploy.

He didn't say that Mirage, or even Tango, were the best thing they'd ever done. He just said he thought Tango was an improvement on Mirage -- Mirage being a note he didn't think anyone wanted to end on.

Michele

Macfan4life

03-28-2015, 07:37 AM

I am happy they are enjoying this probably last monster tour. Something like 75 North American dates. The Dance only had 40 dates period. Christine turned down touring Europe. I say let them enjoy this enthusiasm because this is the last tour before the last album and possible goodbye tour.
As long as they do an album and give Christine at least 5 songs, I will be happy. It makes me happy seeing them so happy.

Nick

03-28-2015, 09:42 AM

I'm just mad that they can't take a 6 month break or so from touring to complete this album. Those international dates should be for 2016 after the new album is released.

jkmaletic

03-28-2015, 10:50 AM

Help guys - my wife and I don't agree on what he means by "touring until next Christmas" - does he mean Christmas 2016, or this year??

Jamie

FuzzyPlum

03-28-2015, 11:29 AM

Help guys - my wife and I don't agree on what he means by "touring until next Christmas" - does he mean Christmas 2016, or this year??

Jamie

99.99% sure its Christmas 2015.

jkmaletic

03-28-2015, 11:40 AM

99.99% sure its Christmas 2015.

LOL - it's the .01% that's confusing. In the same paragraph he specifically says "this coming Christmas" and "next Christmas". :shrug: Hence, the confusion.

bombaysaffires

03-28-2015, 11:46 AM

FuzzyPlum

03-28-2015, 11:54 AM

LOL - it's the .01% that's confusing. In the same paragraph he specifically says "this coming Christmas" and "next Christmas". :shrug: Hence, the confusion.

I see what you mean...

Having read it again though- he talks about formulating plans for completing the album 'after this coming Christmas' after he mentions 'touring until next Christmas'.

...therefore I'm now 100% sure its touring until Christmas 2015!

elle

03-28-2015, 12:38 PM

In his interview with Larry King Lindsey says touring isn't physically hard. The video is in the LB forum. :shrug:

yes, SN has repeatedly said in interviews, when talking about telling Christine to get a trainer etc, how physically demanding the tour is for all of them. while LB has been very clear, especially in that last Larry King interview, that touring is not physically demanding for him at all.

when asked how long he thinks he will be doing this, LB said that as of right now he sees no end to it - releasing new music, playing and touring. that he plays better than ever, is inspired and writing new music, and is physically in great shape. and as far as FM goes, that physically, he thinks Mick and he can do it easily for many many years, but he's not sure about the other 3.

so it's different for different band members, it's just that Stevie tends to generalize whatever she thinks or feels to the rest of the band, whether or not what may be true for her also applies to others.

michelej1

03-28-2015, 03:47 PM

As long as they do an album and give Christine at least 5 songs, I will be happy. It makes me happy seeing them so happy.

Five songs for Christine? Don't get ahead of yourself. Maybe 4 and a bonus track.:laugh:

Michele

michelej1

03-28-2015, 03:53 PM

Physically, Christine looks to be in better shape than Mick to me. But she may not have the resolve he has to do it forever.

Mick's interview had me laughing. Oh, stop slagging Tony Bennett, man.

Michele

sanders8323

03-28-2015, 04:22 PM

sue

03-28-2015, 04:38 PM

The real reason they're stalling to put out the new album besides the touring?...Keep in mind that the 50th anniversary of the band is approaching, in 2017. That's when they'll put out the album, most likely along with some type of new compilation package. That would be smart marketing.

Yeah, that would make sound business sense...if a little hard-nosed.
Lets hope its worth the l-o-n-g wait.
I'm sure it will be.....

FuzzyPlum

03-28-2015, 05:00 PM

The real reason they're stalling to put out the new album besides the touring?...Keep in mind that the 50th anniversary of the band is approaching, in 2017. That's when they'll put out the album, most likely along with some type of new compilation package. That would be smart marketing.

Surely it would make more sense to put out a new album in 2016 (with a tour to promote it) and then a 'Fleetwood Mac: Gold' album in 2017 (with a tour).

aleuzzi

03-28-2015, 05:07 PM

Five songs for Christine? Don't get ahead of yourself. Maybe 4 and a bonus track.:laugh:

Michele

Well, several times in interviews, Lindsey has said there were eight songs she and he worked on together. In addition to his songs, so I'm imagining she may have even more than five. But yes, I'd be happy with four!

michelej1

03-28-2015, 05:13 PM

Well, several times in interviews, Lindsey has said there were eight songs she and he worked on together. In addition to his songs, so I'm imagining she may have even more than five. But yes, I'd be happy with four!

But we know not everything they worked on is going to make the cut. Like for SYW, didn't Stevie say she gave him 16 songs to work on? And for the EP he did a bunch of songs and they only used a fraction.

Michele

MikeVielhaber

03-28-2015, 05:29 PM

Surely it would make more sense to put out a new album in 2016 (with a tour to promote it) and then a 'Fleetwood Mac: Gold' album in 2017 (with a tour).

And thus touring for 5 years straight? I'm not sure how much sense that makes.

FuzzyPlum

03-28-2015, 06:28 PM

And thus touring for 5 years straight? I'm not sure how much sense that makes.

(apart from Stevie, perhaps) Fleetwood Mac want to be active. If they wait until 2017 to put out an album it would mean 1016 would be fallow. Better to get 'the product' out in 2016. They'd need to promote it- not necessarily a huge tour like the present one. Then they could milk the 50 year anniversary/ 40 year Rumours anniversary with a compilation package (including some more new material) in 2017.

Why not tour 5 years straight- whats the problem?

soul_drifter333

03-28-2015, 06:46 PM

Hey Mick, one way to keep your audiences engaged with endless touring is to DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE SETLIST! You have now done the endless greatest hits touring so it's now time for a change.

WildHearted

03-28-2015, 06:51 PM

Why not tour 5 years straight- whats the problem?

Completely over-saturating the market, among other things...

FuzzyPlum

03-28-2015, 07:28 PM

Completely over-saturating the market, among other things...

I despair. Its what musicians do... they record music for release and then play music live. Unless they need to take a whole year off to record they can play live. They've recorded more than an albums worth of music (almost 2 albums worth of music) so they should get it released soon and then go and play it live. Whats the point in sitting around for a year for the sake of it?

It's saturating the market if they play greatest hits every time but there's a clamour for them to play new material.

vivfox

03-28-2015, 08:21 PM

Mick's interview had me laughing. Oh, stop slagging Tony Bennett, man.

I bet Mick will be drumming onstage in his 80's and still hoping and praying to be doing it with FM, despite what he says.

michelej1

03-28-2015, 09:13 PM

It's saturating the market if they play greatest hits every time but there's a clamour for them to play new material.

A clamor among a very loyal, but relatively small group of fans. We are not the ones who sell out those arenas.

But yes, just to maintain a semblance of their own sanity, they should change the setlist.

Michele

RockawayBlind

03-28-2015, 11:02 PM

I'm glad to hear to hear him still talking about the new album. It sounds like he and Christine made some great songs together. He seems very proud of their work and excited to release it. I think the album will be worth the wait.

Unfortunately, that's pretty meaningless. He's been saying that about everything he's done since SYW. He now looks back at SYW and says it's uneven. I'm waiting for him to come clean about the released version of GOS, which also suffers from some of that.

I'll believe it when I hear it but anything Lindsey says about this phantom album that now will take another two years to complete after they wrap up the tour this Christmas, I take with a handful of salt. It's just not credible.

And besides, if Christine is writing a lot of the lyrics, I can't get too excited, considering the "In the Meantime" stuff: You love me, you left me, I loved you, you're a creep." Is that kind of stuff going to resonate from a bunch of geezers? Lindsey had taken a very interesting turn lyrically with the original GOS themes (Peacekeeper, Red Rover, Murrow, Miranda, etc.), and the brutal honesty of the Under the Skin lyrics was refreshing, but then he started singing about "sad angels" and some other insipid stuff, so I have my doubts that this material will be as a good as he would have us believe.

RockawayBlind

03-28-2015, 11:04 PM

sue

03-29-2015, 04:51 AM

And thus touring for 5 years straight? I'm not sure how much sense that makes.

Not much sense artistically.
But $$$$$$$$$££££££££.

MikeVielhaber

03-29-2015, 09:42 AM

OF COURSE! He's not going to sit there and say "oh, our new stuff is crap". Every time there's a new album on the horizon, whether it's Fleetwood Mac or his own, he always says something to the effect of "it's the best stuff we've ever done". It's a marketing ploy.

You're right. Completely calculated and disingenuous. He obviously doesn't think that highly of his new songs. :rolleyes:

shackin'up

03-29-2015, 12:34 PM

OF COURSE! He's not going to sit there and say "oh, our new stuff is crap". Every time there's a new album on the horizon, whether it's Fleetwood Mac or his own, he always says something to the effect of "it's the best stuff we've ever done". It's a marketing ploy.

So, what SHOULD he say about it? It's not only marketing, basicly, the last work of a musician tends to feel like his or her best work, if the artist surprised him or herself with it. You should know that.

michelej1

03-29-2015, 01:05 PM

Not much sense artistically.
But $$$$$$$$$££££££££.

But at some point, I don't think it would make much sense financially either. I can see the revenues during that third year becoming pretty bleak.

Michele

FuzzyPlum

03-29-2015, 01:31 PM

But at some point, I don't think it would make much sense financially either. I can see the revenues during that third year becoming pretty bleak.

Michele

For the next two years they wouldn't need to do the extensive number of dates they have been doing. They could do half the number of venues in 2016 and the other half in 2017. By 2017 it will have been (at least) 2 years since they'd visited those places. An anniversary tour is automatically going to generate interest. Keeping in the public eye while they are hot property would be a good thing.

Macfanforever

03-29-2015, 02:33 PM

As us TRUE fans see a dozens of shows of the same tour and get bored of the same setlists.

The setlist will never change.It will be the same except for some new tunes or adds and subtracts.

The FM 50/40 anniversary package would be great.

At this point they are making alot more money with these hits tours then selling an new album.Its sad to say that but thats the way it is these days with older artists and bands that are underrated.

SteveMacD

03-29-2015, 02:38 PM

So, what SHOULD he say about it? It's not only marketing, basicly, the last work of a musician tends to feel like his or her best work, if the artist surprised him or herself with it. You should know that.
Maybe something a little more toned down, like "I think this work will hold up with the rest of our catalogue." But calling it "THE best thing we've ever done" is a very unrealistic standard for the album to live up to. They haven't even gotten anything from Stevie, yet.

FuzzyPlum

03-29-2015, 02:56 PM

Maybe something a little more toned down, like "I think this work will hold up with the rest of our catalogue." But calling it "THE best thing we've ever done" is a very unrealistic standard for the album to live up to. They haven't even gotten anything from Stevie, yet.

I don't think he's ever said 'Its the best thing we've ever done'.
In this interview he said 'its one of the best things we've ever done'...
...which could well be true- I do hope so.

Andy Man

03-29-2015, 03:33 PM

At this point they are making alot more money with these hits tours then selling an new album.Its sad to say that but thats the way it is these days with older artists and bands that are underrated.

Very true. However, I believe that the hit tour style is really down to the Mac's own decisions. It's a matter of a artists setting their own expectations.

For instance, Springsteen has had a number of tours as of late and, with the exception of the Working On A Dream tour, his sets have always highlighted new material - this is going back to his very early days of touring. Additionally, he has a record of playing number of deep cuts during shows (another expectation that fans and many newcomers have when attending his shows).

Fleetwood Mac has always relied on the "hits" to carry their shows. Look back at the Tusk tour. Sure, they played Tusk material. However, the bulk of the list came from FM/Rumours. Same with Mirage (although I would argue they did more deep cuts than normal here). Same with the Tango tour. Same with The Dance. Same with Say You Will. It's a precedent the band set and continues to maintain.

Personally, having been able to witness the On With The Show tour, I can say that I do not mind. Would I like to have heard Brown Eyes? Walk A Thin Line? Angel? Tango In The Night? Of course I would have. However, as a show, the hits that FM plays are iconic and make for an awesome rock show experience.

I want a new album from them as much as anybody. And I do hope that, if in fact the album comes to be, that their tour will consist of new material However, a show without a great deal of their hits just does not seem likely. They have never been a 'risky' band in terms of set selection before, I do not see how that will start now.

FuzzyPlum

03-29-2015, 04:19 PM

Whenever they've put out a new album they've always played a small selection from that album. I'd expect to hear 5 or 6 new songs in a short tour next year. Of course their set list is always largely going to consist of hits. Both Lindsey and Mick are suggesting a focus on an album in early 2016. Lindsey has no intention of returning to solo work in any hurry after the current tour and seems fully committed to work with Fleetwood Mac. If they wrap up an album in early 2016 they will need to promote it. That will in part involve live concerts.

PenguinHead

03-29-2015, 07:35 PM

OF COURSE! He's not going to sit there and say "oh, our new stuff is crap". Every time there's a new album on the horizon, whether it's Fleetwood Mac or his own, he always says something to the effect of "it's the best stuff we've ever done". It's a marketing ploy.

:laugh: So cynical! A marketing ploy? There is nothing being marketed. Why question the sincerity that he and Christine enjoyed an inspired and prosperous songwriting collaboration? I'ts such a benign expression. Why is that something to bitch about?

PenguinHead

03-29-2015, 08:12 PM

The real reason they're stalling to put out the new album besides the touring?...Keep in mind that the 50th anniversary of the band is approaching, in 2017. That's when they'll put out the album, most likely along with some type of new compilation package. That would be smart marketing.

They are not that smart. The members may have their opinions about the way they are marketed. But they are artists, not marketers. Ultimately their record company makes most of the decisions.

elle

03-29-2015, 08:24 PM

They are not that smart. The members may have their opinions about the way they are marketed. But they are artists, not marketers. Ultimately their record company makes most of the decisions.

they don't have a record company.

but i agree with you, if their recent history can teach us anything, it's that they are not that smart. ;)

BlueDenimLamp

03-29-2015, 08:50 PM

they don't have a record company.

but i agree with you, if their recent history can teach us anything, it's that they are not that smart. ;)

Good point...Could it be that WB has no interest in new material from FM at this time...With 2017 being the big 50/40 year for the band it would probably be easier (and more profitable) for WB to put out another "Special Edition" whatever in 2017 than sign the band to a new contract...

bombaysaffires

03-29-2015, 09:57 PM

I just don't get why they are so hung up on Warner's. I get that that is where their catalog is, but WB hasn't worked terribly hard on their behalf in recent years.

BlueDenimLamp

03-29-2015, 10:04 PM

I just don't get why they are so hung up on Warner's. I get that that is where their catalog is, but WB hasn't worked terribly hard on their behalf in recent years.

It's a status symbol /ego thing kind of like the old Hollywood star wanting to work for the big movie company one last time...

chiliD

03-30-2015, 02:29 AM

:laugh: So cynical! A marketing ploy? There is nothing being marketed. Why question the sincerity that he and Christine enjoyed an inspired and prosperous songwriting collaboration? I'ts such a benign expression. Why is that something to bitch about?

What do you mean "nothing being marketed"? Just the MENTION of new material being worked on IS "marketing"...it's stirring the pot of interest at the first budding of the seed. Because once the album is released, how many songs will make it to the concert stage? 1? 2? 3? if we're lucky, maybe 3. If the material is THAT good, then play the whole F-ing album. The LATEST album, not 3/4 of the album you released nearly 40 years ago. Drop some of the songs that are more moldy than Mrs Bates sitting in her rocking chair next to her motel.

FuzzyPlum

03-30-2015, 03:30 AM

Because once the album is released, how many songs will make it to the concert stage? 1? 2? 3? if we're lucky, maybe 3.

I'd be hopeful of more than that. we had 2 new songs in the set on the back of the EP alone.

On the Tusk tour they obviously played a lot of new material.
On the Mirage tour they played 4/5 new songs.
After that it has always been different scenarios;
The Tango and Mask tours each had about 4/5 new songs from the album (plus older, pre B/N material).
On the 'Time tour' they played....er, lots of covers.
They played 7 or 8 new songs on the Say You will tour.

I'd expect 2 new songs per writer on the back of a new album.

MikeVielhaber

03-30-2015, 04:33 AM

What do you mean "nothing being marketed"? Just the MENTION of new material being worked on IS "marketing"...it's stirring the pot of interest at the first budding of the seed. Because once the album is released, how many songs will make it to the concert stage? 1? 2? 3? if we're lucky, maybe 3. If the material is THAT good, then play the whole F-ing album. The LATEST album, not 3/4 of the album you released nearly 40 years ago. Drop some of the songs that are more moldy than Mrs Bates sitting in her rocking chair next to her motel.

But the reality is the fans love those songs and the band probably really enjoys the response they get when they play a song people love.

But they will definitely play more than 3 new songs. They've never played as few as 3 new songs from an album. In all your pent up frustration about the greatest hits tours you must've forgotten how the band operates when they actually do release an album. They promote it very well on stage. More than most bands their age and stature would.

HomerMcvie

03-30-2015, 12:53 PM

Because once the album is released, how many songs will make it to the concert stage? 1? 2? 3? if we're lucky, maybe 3. If the material is THAT good, then play the whole F-ing album. The LATEST album, not 3/4 of the album you released nearly 40 years ago. Drop some of the songs that are more moldy than Mrs Bates sitting in her rocking chair next to her motel.

You bitter curmudgeon...

Spot on!!!!!

:wavey:
#takesonetoknowone

chiliD

03-31-2015, 01:41 AM

I'd be hopeful of more than that. we had 2 new songs in the set on the back of the EP alone.

On the Tusk tour they obviously played a lot of new material.
On the Mirage tour they played 4/5 new songs.
After that it has always been different scenarios;
The Tango and Mask tours each had about 4/5 new songs from the album (plus older, pre B/N material).
On the 'Time tour' they played....er, lots of covers.
They played 7 or 8 new songs on the Say You will tour.

I'd expect 2 new songs per writer on the back of a new album.

Wake up...you're dreaming.
Granted, the rules were different before the end of the Tusk tour.
Mirage:
Eyes Of The World
Gypsy
Love In Store
Hold Me (and that was dropped before the end of the tour)
(no 5th song)

Tango In The Night:
Little Lies
Everywhere
Isn't It Midnight
Seven Wonders

Behind The Mask:
In The Back Of My Mind
Stand On The Rock
Skies The Limit
Save Me

Time: There wasn't a tour for it...it was released AFTER the tour ended.
BUT, they DID play "Blow By Blow" & "Dreaming The Dream" on the tour that preceded the album's release...as well as Billy's "The Bigger The Love" which was slated to be on the "new" album (then titled Another Link In The Chain) up until they revamped it to include Christine's songs.

But the reality is the fans love those songs and the band probably really enjoys the response they get when they play a song people love.

But they will definitely play more than 3 new songs. They've never played as few as 3 new songs from an album. In all your pent up frustration about the greatest hits tours you must've forgotten how the band operates when they actually do release an album. They promote it very well on stage. More than most bands their age and stature would.

No...I remember very clearly how the band operates...they hammer us with Rumours and the '75 album and new material be damned. Sure, they'll start a tour playing a bunch of songs from a new album (in the case of Say You Will, but look how quickly they started dropping the new tunes as the tour progressed. Started off playing 8 or 9 songs, but 3 songs didn't make it to the 2nd show of the tour (or any subsequent show). Then one by one, they dropped more SYW songs. Until all that was left was the title cut, "Peacekeeper", "Come" & "Goodbye Baby". After all the BS in interviews that they'd just done "the best material they've ever done". It's all BS. PLAY the new stuff, the entire f-ing album, until it's hammered home by us faithful that it's what we're going to hear and that we'd be f-ing lucky to hear any "hits". If they'd cater to long-time fans instead of the few people who hadn't seen them before, they might earn a penny's worth of credibility. But, at this point, they're a sad nostalgia act. Still trying to suck some life out of a long dead romance.

MikeVielhaber

03-31-2015, 02:22 AM

Wake up...you're dreaming.
Granted, the rules were different before the end of the Tusk tour.
Mirage:
Eyes Of The World
Gypsy
Love In Store
Hold Me (and that was dropped before the end of the tour)
(no 5th song)

Tango In The Night:
Little Lies
Everywhere
Isn't It Midnight
Seven Wonders

Behind The Mask:
In The Back Of My Mind
Stand On The Rock
Skies The Limit
Save Me

Time: There wasn't a tour for it...it was released AFTER the tour ended.
BUT, they DID play "Blow By Blow" & "Dreaming The Dream" on the tour that preceded the album's release...as well as Billy's "The Bigger The Love" which was slated to be on the "new" album (then titled Another Link In The Chain) up until they revamped it to include Christine's songs.

No...I remember very clearly how the band operates...they hammer us with Rumours and the '75 album and new material be damned. Sure, they'll start a tour playing a bunch of songs from a new album (in the case of Say You Will, but look how quickly they started dropping the new tunes as the tour progressed. Started off playing 8 or 9 songs, but 3 songs didn't make it to the 2nd show of the tour (or any subsequent show). Then one by one, they dropped more SYW songs. Until all that was left was the title cut, "Peacekeeper", "Come" & "Goodbye Baby". After all the BS in interviews that they'd just done "the best material they've ever done". It's all BS. PLAY the new stuff, the entire f-ing album, until it's hammered home by us faithful that it's what we're going to hear and that we'd be f-ing lucky to hear any "hits". If they'd cater to long-time fans instead of the few people who hadn't seen them before, they might earn a penny's worth of credibility. But, at this point, they're a sad nostalgia act. Still trying to suck some life out of a long dead romance.
The final show of 2004 also included "Red Rover". In total they played 9 new songs of 18 on the tour. It was well represented and they played no fewer than 5 and as many as 8 at any given show so it still doesn't make sense that you would presume they'd play 3 new songs at most and possibly fewer off a new album when they've never done that before.

And while they're catering to the hard core fans playing the entire new album their attendance numbers will dwindle. Nice strategy. You, we, aren't the ones filling arenas. They can't play basketball arenas and ignore their hits.

FuzzyPlum

03-31-2015, 06:15 AM

Wake up...you're dreaming.
Granted, the rules were different before the end of the Tusk tour.

Hold Me (and that was dropped before the end of the tour)
(no 5th song)

No...I remember very clearly how the band operates...they hammer us with Rumours and the '75 album and new material be damned. Sure, they'll start a tour playing a bunch of songs from a new album (in the case of Say You Will, but look how quickly they started dropping the new tunes as the tour progressed. Started off playing 8 or 9 songs, but 3 songs didn't make it to the 2nd show of the tour (or any subsequent show). Then one by one, they dropped more SYW songs. Until all that was left was the title cut, "Peacekeeper", "Come" & "Goodbye Baby". After all the BS in interviews that they'd just done "the best material they've ever done". It's all BS. PLAY the new stuff, the entire f-ing album, until it's hammered home by us faithful that it's what we're going to hear and that we'd be f-ing lucky to hear any "hits". If they'd cater to long-time fans instead of the few people who hadn't seen them before, they might earn a penny's worth of credibility. But, at this point, they're a sad nostalgia act. Still trying to suck some life out of a long dead romance.

Gee, so much anger- unnecessarily so.
Unless I'm much mistaken Hold Me was kept to the end of the tour. Even The Dance tour had 4 new songs. Therein, they've had at least 4 new songs as regulars in the set for every single tour.
On the Billy/Rick tours they did a lot of other material in addition to the 'new' material.
Say You Will had 5 ever present songs, one more that was played at the majority of dates and one more that had significant plays.
Your 3 songs assertion is pretty much crap!