If you ignore all this, remaining willfully uninformed because of what you want to believe, fine. Those studies are pretty conclusive, BTW. If tons of people who don't have dairy have low instances of Cancer and Osteoperosis(among other things), and people who consume lots of dairy have the highest instances...well, to me, ignoring that is like how people ignored global warming for decades "oh, there's no conclusive study to say burning of fossil fuels is causing global warming"
Seriously. It only makes sense, especially having read about the studies for about 10 years like I have been.
Also, have you considered the fact that the new information available is right, even though it's different then your old information?
Again, I don't care how much dairy you eat, I'm trying to pass the information that it
isn't really good for you. People who ignore the overwhelming data of the past few decades that says the same, or try to refute it - I don't get it. I don't want to be right, I want to be the best informed. And, clearly, I am. If something new comes out that goes against what I thought before, and there is a lot of good data to support it, I don't care that I was wrong before, I don't cling to my old ideas because I'm stubborn and that's what I always learned. Or because the new data is contrary to my lifestyle choices.
There are no health benefits to drinking cow's milk, according to my years of research, which is based on scientists and doctor's years of research.
I'm sad that some people actually believe it is good for you. And I want them to know the real story, because lots of people actually
want to make the most healthful choice possible. "Moderation" is fine, but not even close to optimal.
And you just admittedly made an uninformed conclusion, you did not read the scientific evidence that I posted. Yet, you stuck to your opinion, intimating that it
was informed.
How can you know if what I say isn't true, if you haven't seen the data? Just because you learned what you think is true before, and you already knew it? Is that what makes it right? People learn new things every day, things change constantly.
Oh, and BTW, one of the things I posted said yogurt cultures are good for you, but that you should get non dairy yogurt, which is widely available - because it is better for you.
I don't know for how long you have been studying nutrition, or how regularly, but
the other day you didn't even know that the meals you were fixing for yourself were too carb heavy, and you needed to add some protein and fiber. But suddenly you are an up to the minute info expert on milk? It's possible, and bless you, but it doesn't logically jibe that you would be. Especially not comparitively.
I'm not saying a small amount of milk/dairy in someone's diet will necessarily cause harm. I'm saying no matter what amount you eat/drink, it doesn't have nutritional value to your body. Will everyone get breast cancer from it? No. But it isn't a healthful choice. Just like eating candybars, or hamburgers, isn't a healthful choice. At best, I would call it neutral. Well, I wouldn't, really, but that's the best I can call it.
I love you and all, I just think the studies are right, and that when people cut dairy from their diet, their bodies significantly benefit in myriad ways. I'm also a person who was vegan once, so I do have some first hand experience.
08-25-2006, 09:41 AM
Relax. Where in my post did I tell you that the studies you posted were untrue? I told you that I didn't read through them completely yet, and that I need to look into it further. I never said I'm not open to learning new or different things. After I'm done reading everything thoroughly and do some research of my own, I'll post again. 
We're all only human.
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