View Full Version : Stevie Recording A New Album With Dave Stewart Producing In Nashville...
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 07:55 AM
We have all been wondering what Stevie is up to in Nashville the past week...Unlike with the "IYD" sessions Dave has not tweeted any real details about the events going on...On Saturday (4/26) Mick attended a Jenny Boyd book signing at The Grove and our own "Hello Monster" was in attendance and this is from the transcription of what took place...
Well... This will be interesting. This is transcribed by the way, I managed to record our conversation, so everything Mick says is real. I'm working on uploading my recording to Mediafire as soon as I figure out how. :laugh:
Anyways. Here you go!
(Me) "So what's going on in Nashville?"
(Mick) "Uh she's making, uh Stevie's making an album... I think it's gonna be a first for her where she's doing that Nashville thing where they go in and all the musicians just play the songs and get it all done really quickly... were hoping."
(Me) "Well I heard that she's there with Dave and that Christine was there too. Are they doing something together?"
(Mick) "Dave's producing it, uh and she's using the wrecking crew down there, to my knowledge where they all just come in and jam out the songs in two weeks"
...
Sounds like a solo to me, ladies and gentlemen. Thoughts?
So I looks like we may be getting a new Stevie solo album before a new Mac album (how great is this!!! )...
Before everyone goes crazy about Stevie recording in Nashville remember this is where Dave goes when he record his records and when Dave records in Nashville at Blackbird his records are started and finished in 2 weeks...Another thing to keep in mind is that just because Stevie is recording in Nashville at Blackbird it doesn't mean she's making a "country"album...Now that Mick has let the proverbial cat out of the bag let's hope Dave let's us in on what's going on...
mitzo
04-27-2014, 07:59 AM
This had better not be somebody's sick idea of a joke.
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 08:03 AM
This had better not be somebody's sick idea of a joke.
I don't think "Hello Monster" is known for pulling pranks but we will see...
RavenOfRhiannon
04-27-2014, 08:10 AM
This had better not be somebody's sick idea of a joke.
I doubt it. In the original thread is a link to download audio of the q&a. I'm pretty sure this is legit, although it is certainly new territory for Stevie.
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 08:15 AM
If Stevie is recording a solo album could it be that she has told FM that she's not working/ touring with them 3 years in a row...I'm sure that Stevie and Lindsey only planned on touring FM for a year...
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 08:18 AM
I doubt it. In the original thread is a link to download audio of the q&a. I'm pretty sure this is legit, although it is certainly new territory for Stevie.
Actually Stevie has done this before ...If you remember "The Wild Heart" was recorded in 12 DAYS:nod:
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 08:21 AM
This had better not be somebody's sick idea of a joke.
I doubt it. In the original thread is a link to download audio of the q&a. I'm pretty sure this is legit, although it is certainly new territory for Stevie.
Here's the Barnes and Noble audio link...http://www.mediafire.com/listen/3d08ebqdb0t8rq6/Mick_Barnes_and_Noble.m4a
WildHearted
04-27-2014, 09:35 AM
Maybe she's trying to pull a Beyoncé and release it completely unannounced.
Then again, it's weird to put out a solo album and then go tour with FM. So maybe she's getting the receding all over with and then waiting to release it till after FM has run it's course.
In Your Dreams
04-27-2014, 09:37 AM
I think Stevie believes this is the only window of time she has to do another solo album. I think FM is asking everyone for a two to three year commitment (tour, album, tour) and Stevie said ok but give me the first half of 2014 to work on other things first. I think she has one album left on her record contract so this will let her fulfill that and then she 'll turn her focus to FM (and maybe do a few solo shows between legs of FM tours).
WildHearted
04-27-2014, 09:49 AM
If Stevie puts the album out in May, she could your June and July and be back with FM to rehearse in August.
But they would have to announce it pretty soon.
AliceLover
04-27-2014, 09:57 AM
If Stevie puts the album out in May, she could your June and July and be back with FM to rehearse in August.
But they would have to announce it pretty soon.
Talk about overload. That seems like way too much for her. I do rememebr some talk a few months ago about her giving two songs to Lindsey. I don't know if the source was reliable, but they were able to describe the song. Maybe there's more studio stuff done than we think.
Whether its through FM or her own, I am just happy to see some new material.
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 10:11 AM
If Stevie puts the album out in May, she could your June and July and be back with FM to rehearse in August.
But they would have to announce it pretty soon.
I think she's recording before FM events this year and the album will be out in 2015...As I posted in the other thread it may be that Stevie has put her platform boot down again and told the band she'll tour in the fall but after that she's taking time off...Christine's return was totally unexpected and I think Mick thought he could use this to his advantage and get Stevie on board with a new record and yet another tour...I don't think there is enough time for Stevie to get a record out and book a tour this year but I think we will see the new album next year with a major tour as well...
Danigirl
04-27-2014, 10:41 AM
Actually Stevie has done this before ...If you remember "The Wild Heart" was recorded in 12 DAYS:nod:
Wow, never knew it only took 12 days... Interesting.
Johnny Stew
04-27-2014, 10:46 AM
I'm thrilled by this news! A new Stevie solo album one year and a new Mac album the next... that hasn't happened for the past 25 years.
This is win/win. The more music, the better.
I'm thrilled by this news! A new Stevie solo album one year and a new Mac album the next... that hasn't happened for the past 25 years.
This is win/win. The more music, the better.
i'm happy for you guys. if there was a FM and LB solo album in the works at the same time i would be over the moon so i can completely get how you all feel.
however, if FM waits for SN, and releases their album AFTER hers, even though the only reason it's not done and out is waiting for her, they are just a bunch of wusses. :p
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 11:57 AM
i'm happy for you guys. if there was a FM and LB solo album in the works at the same time i would be over the moon so i can completely get how you all feel.
however, if FM waits for SN, and releases their album AFTER hers, even though the only reason it's not done and out is waiting for her, they are just a bunch of wusses. :p
If LB has any solo songs ready he should join the party and put something out...I agree that if FM has something to put out they should quit waiting on Stevie and just get it done...
Johnny Stew
04-27-2014, 12:09 PM
i'm happy for you guys. if there was a FM and LB solo album in the works at the same time i would be over the moon so i can completely get how you all feel.
Thanks, Elle. :xoxo:
however, if FM waits for SN, and releases their album AFTER hers, even though the only reason it's not done and out is waiting for her, they are just a bunch of wusses. :p
We honestly don't know that she's the only reason it's not done & out, though. That part is just speculation. In my view, it doesn't make them a bunch of wusses to want Stevie on the album. It seems they very much want to do something as a fivesome, and I do believe they will all -- Stevie included -- work to make that happen.
The Catdancer
04-27-2014, 12:14 PM
Actually Stevie has done this before ...If you remember "The Wild Heart" was recorded in 12 DAYS:nod:
Where did you hear this??
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 12:24 PM
Where did you hear this??
You will have to find the Jim Ladd "Wild Heart" interview with Stevie, Sharon, Lori. & Sandy...Stevie talks about the tracks being recorded in 12 days and other things being done later...According to Stevie much of this was filmed...Find the interview as it's really great with Stevie & the girls singing a song at 4am in the morning...
wheart
04-27-2014, 12:29 PM
If they are serious about getting this record done really, really fast,It would explain why the recording is going on at Blackbird studios rather than Stevie's house. As was mentioned on the FM news site, Dave was able to do a few albums at Blackbird in like a week or something...Maybe a solo Stevie record is going to happen. Still not completely buying it...
AliceLover
04-27-2014, 12:41 PM
You will have to find the Jim Ladd "Wild Heart" interview with Stevie, Sharon, Lori. & Sandy...Stevie talks about the tracks being recorded in 12 days and other things being done later...According to Stevie much of this was filmed...Find the interview as it's really great with Stevie & the girls singing a song at 4am in the morning...
Yes "recorded" in 12 days. Just like the tracks for "In Your Dreams" were recorded in the same amount of time. That basically just means they were doing the final take, or final draft. The real work comes from prepping all these songs, the harmonies, melodies, and the instrumentation. Recording doesn't mean starting from scratch with a demo and completing a song in its entirety.
ragrsrocalot
04-27-2014, 02:58 PM
Awesome!!!!
Stevie herself said it best in this bit of the Mill Valley Film Festival Q&A- @ 2:11-3:44
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Whatever your projects are, do what YOU want to do. :thumbsup:
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 03:07 PM
Awesome!!!!
Stevie herself said it best in this bit of the Mill Valley Film Festival Q&A- @ 2:11-3:44
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/rEXglFYtGCk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Whatever your projects are, do what YOU want to do. :thumbsup:
Hopefully Stevie will have the new album out in the spring of 2015 with a solo spring/summer tour...
Johnny Stew
04-27-2014, 03:29 PM
If the album is indeed finished in time for a summer release, I wouldn't be surprised if Stevie doesn't do a full-scale tour to promote it. I can see her doing a round of press, a few TV appearances, maybe a small handful of dates (possibly even with another artist) -- and then allowing the publicity generated from the Mac's tour to do the rest of the promotion.
ragrsrocalot
04-27-2014, 03:33 PM
Hopefully Stevie will have the new album out in the spring of 2015 with a solo spring/summer tour...
Yeah that would be cool. Even if it's a Mac project, BN project, solo project, makes no difference to me. I just want her to be happy and to do things because it's what she wants to do. Her collaborations with other artists in different projects over the last few years seem to have given her a lot of joy. Of course I love her with the Mac too. But she also seems to be very aware of how precious time is.
BlueDenimLamp
04-27-2014, 04:00 PM
Yeah that would be cool. Even if it's a Mac project, BN project, solo project, makes no difference to me. I just want her to be happy and to do things because it's what she wants to do. Her collaborations with other artists in different projects over the last few years seem to have given her a lot of joy. Of course I love her with the Mac too. But she also seems to be very aware of how precious time is.
Let me re-phrase...Hopefully Stevie will have the new SOLO album out in the spring of 2015 with a solo spring/summer tour...It wouldn't surprise me if Stevie had all this planned out before she knew Christine was returning because I highly doubt that Stevie told the boys she would tour FM 2 years in a row ... So far the only thing we know she has committed to FM wise is the fall tour and she may have only agreed to do that so Christine would at least be able to do some FM shows this year...Like I said I think Stevie has plans and FM will have to wait it's turn...
If indeed Stevie has a solo cd in the wings to release next year then the Fleetwood Mac project has to be released this year.
ragrsrocalot
04-27-2014, 04:50 PM
Let me re-phrase...Hopefully Stevie will have the new SOLO album out in the spring of 2015 with a solo spring/summer tour...It wouldn't surprise me if Stevie had all this planned out before she knew Christine was returning because I highly doubt that Stevie told the boys she would tour FM 2 years in a row ... So far the only thing we know she has committed to FM wise is the fall tour and she may have only agreed to do that so Christine would at least be able to do some FM shows this year...Like I said I think Stevie has plans and FM will have to wait it's turn...
This is exactly what I think. It's not a slight to FM or the return of Christine, which I think she is really happy about, as well as us fans. But, I strongly feel that she had planned on doing other projects and was totally looking forward to that.
WildHearted
04-27-2014, 04:55 PM
If the album is indeed finished in time for a summer release, I wouldn't be surprised if Stevie doesn't do a full-scale tour to promote it. I can see her doing a round of press, a few TV appearances, maybe a small handful of dates (possibly even with another artist) -- and then allowing the publicity generated from the Mac's tour to do the rest of the promotion.
That's what I'm thinking.
If indeed Stevie has a solo cd in the wings to release next year then the Fleetwood Mac project has to be released this year.
i like the way you think. just as unrealistically as me. :xoxo:
TsnFan4Ever
04-27-2014, 06:44 PM
I think Stevie believes this is the only window of time she has to do another solo album.
This was my statement when the story about Stevie, Dave Stewart and Christine going to Nashville first broke. Stevie has been wanting to work on her next solo project for the last couple years--which was delayed by her mother's death. Now that she's had time to grieve and only has a short time before they will all be fully involved with FM again (yay!!), if she doesn't move on her project now, she may lose the opportunity to do so.
It sounds like she's finally feeling inspired to write songs again, especially since she wanted to do a tribute to her mom. I think this is a really good sign: if she's working on her own projects, she will also be inspired to write for FM again. We lost the window for BN, let's hope this works for her and that it will lead to wonderful music (solo and group projects).
MikeInNV
04-27-2014, 06:52 PM
This is exactly what I think. It's not a slight to FM or the return of Christine, which I think she is really happy about, as well as us fans. But, I strongly feel that she had planned on doing other projects and was totally looking forward to that.
And I'll third that. As happy as I am about Chris's return, I've said all along that the timing was terrible. If she had re-joined a year earlier, 2013 could have been the big reunion and greatest hits tour. Now that will happen in 2014, which makes last year's tour kind of.....I hate to use the word pointless, but now that they are older and have limited time for the projects they want to do, this hasn't been terribly efficient.
nicole21290
04-27-2014, 09:55 PM
Thought this might be a good time to bring up once again what Stevie said in JANUARY 2014 because I've seen some talk of 'but promoting it!?'
"We'll be back on the road at the end of next summer. So it's like - and I'm going, I'll do different stuff for the next four months. So you just keep going, you just keep moving...
I can just tell you I'm looking forward to two different tours next year and I'm looking forward to American Horror Story..."
KenshiMaster16
04-28-2014, 01:52 AM
I'd rather her save the material for a new Mac album. However, if she's writing tracks for both her solo and a Mac release then I guess that's OK. But if the Mac are gonna get her 'leftovers' from this project then I'm gonna be a bit furious. She had no new tracks for the EP and we finally have a real excuse for a new album thanks to Christine and the last time all five were involved, she was hardly there and we got subpar material because of it (I'll excuse Seven Wonders but the others are garbage compared to the majority of her written work).
With all this great Mac news, I just don't really know how I feel about this. I'm not really all that excited for it compared to how excited I am for a full-on Mac reunion. However, more Stevie songs is more Stevie songs and I guess I should be grateful? I just hope she brings her A game this time to the band.
wildheart048
04-28-2014, 02:15 AM
This is fantastic news! Thank you for the initial report on it...I am totally excited for another solo album so (relatively) quickly. I HOPE a Mac album comes out too, but for me, personally, the thought of another solo album is thrilling beyond belief!!
Danielle
04-28-2014, 09:01 AM
This is fantastic news! Thank you.
The Catdancer
04-28-2014, 09:45 AM
You will have to find the Jim Ladd "Wild Heart" interview with Stevie, Sharon, Lori. & Sandy...Stevie talks about the tracks being recorded in 12 days and other things being done later...According to Stevie much of this was filmed...Find the interview as it's really great with Stevie & the girls singing a song at 4am in the morning...
Never knew this. Thanks!
BlueDenimLamp
04-28-2014, 10:01 AM
Never knew this. Thanks!
I found a link for the "Wild Heart" interview here on the Ledge.Wild Heart Interview (http://www.mediafire.com/?n5zwvnwxwjb) The link looks like it is still good so you will have to try it and see what it is...
BlueLight
04-28-2014, 10:27 AM
This is truly fantastic news!! :blob2: I am thrilled beyond words about FM's upcoming tour. But I feared that Christine's unexpected return would sidetrack Stevie from recording any solo work for the foreseeable future. Regardless of whether her solo project gets released this summer, or after the band's tour, we're looking at the possibility of both a SN and FM album within the next 12-18 months. And that's more than I ever would have hoped for.
On a related note, my understanding has been that Stevie has one album remaining on her WB contract. But an anonymous poster on fleetwoodmacnews.com referenced some rumors that she had resigned a new contract, requiring both a new studio album and yet another greatest hits compilation. Regardless, I'm excited to find out what's in the pipeline.
HelloMonster
04-28-2014, 10:58 AM
This is fantastic news! Thank you for the initial report on it...I am totally excited for another solo album so (relatively) quickly. I HOPE a Mac album comes out too, but for me, personally, the thought of another solo album is thrilling beyond belief!!
You're very welcome. :)
Jondalar
04-28-2014, 11:26 AM
This is truly fantastic news!! :blob2: I am thrilled beyond words about FM's upcoming tour. But I feared that Christine's unexpected return would sidetrack Stevie from recording any solo work for the foreseeable future. Regardless of whether her solo project gets released this summer, or after the band's tour, we're looking at the possibility of both a SN and FM album within the next 12-18 months. And that's more than I ever would have hoped for.
On a related note, my understanding has been that Stevie has one album remaining on her WB contract. But an anonymous poster on fleetwoodmacnews.com referenced some rumors that she had resigned a new contract, requiring both a new studio album and yet another greatest hits compilation. Regardless, I'm excited to find out what's in the pipeline.
Another greatest hits? You have to be kidding. It's not deserved.
BlueLight
04-28-2014, 11:31 AM
Another greatest hits? You have to be kidding. It's not deserved.
It's hard to see how there's a market for another compilation. If there's any truth to that rumor, my only hope would be that it would include a good number of outtakes/B-sides.
chiliD
04-28-2014, 01:42 PM
Maybe this is one of the things that Stevie learned from Rod Stewart while doing those mini-tours with him. How to balance recording solo albums and getting the "home office" band to tour playing songs from your solo album at the same time.
Here's the scenario:
Stevie's recording a SOLO album, BUT, not doing a solo TOUR to back it up...what she does is get Fleetwood Mac to play the songs she wants to promote from the album.
It worked for Rod Stewart for about 4 or 5 years juggling his solo albums & touring with Faces (and Faces performing songs from Rod Stewart's solo albums after they're released). He didn't have to do a solo tour until after Faces finally called it a day (which was only after Ronnie Wood joined the Stones full-time).
So, maybe the new Fleetwood Mac album will be "sans Stevie" as far as songwriting & lead vocals are concerned, but she'll have a concurrent solo album out & performing the "hit potential" songs from it WITH Fleetwood Mac. It'll give Lindsey & Christine more room for their material on the FMac album, too.
I can very well see this as a compromise solution. All she has to do is get Lindsey to buy in...(by getting him to play on a few songs on her solo album...just like Rod got Ronnie Wood to play on most of his solo albums as well as Faces albums; there was already a "connection" with the material)...I think Mick will do anything to keep her "happy" & in the band. Seems that Christine may have done some keyboard parts on Stevie's songs while in Nashville, as well. So, Christine will have some vested interest in playing the songs live, too.
There is no way a Fleetwood Mac album will be released without Stevie Nicks.
Maybe this is one of the things that Stevie learned from Rod Stewart while doing those mini-tours with him. How to balance recording solo albums and getting the "home office" band to tour playing songs from your solo album at the same time.
i love your idea. although i would be shocked if all the people we are talking about here are that smart. :p
but who knows? looking historically now, it seems Stevie has pulled the wool - or chiffon as the case may be ;) - over the boys in FM several times already, so maybe she's actually much smarter than she pretends to be. if it hadn't before, it suddenly becomes very clear now that while she pays lip service to FM her solo career has been her priority for many years now, and she's been highly successful in putting FM projects off for years in a row under one or another excuse... while keeping FM on the back burner and pulling them out if/when needed.
chiliD
04-28-2014, 03:32 PM
There is no way a Fleetwood Mac album will be released without Stevie Nicks.
Fleetwood Mac Albums without Stevie Nicks:
Dog & Dustbin
Mr Wonderful
Pious Bird Of Good Omen
English Rose
Then Play On
Blues Jam At Chess
Live At The Boston Tea Party Vol 1 - 3
Kiln House
Future Games
Bare Trees
Penguin
Mystery To Me
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Tango In The Night (for all intents)
Time
Fleetwood Mac Albums WITH Stevie Nicks:
Fleetwood Mac
Rumours
Tusk
Live
Mirage
Tango In The Night
Behind The Mask
The Dance
Live In Boston
Say You Will
History kind of disproves your point. :shrug:
Fleetwood Mac Albums without Stevie Nicks:
Dog & Dustbin
Mr Wonderful
Pious Bird Of Good Omen
English Rose
Then Play On
Blues Jam At Chess
Live At The Boston Tea Party Vol 1 - 3
Kiln House
Future Games
Bare Trees
Penguin
Mystery To Me
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Tango In The Night (for all intents)
Time
Fleetwood Mac Albums WITH Stevie Nicks:
Fleetwood Mac
Rumours
Tusk
Live
Mirage
Tango In The Night
Behind The Mask
The Dance
Live In Boston
Say You Will
History kind of disproves your point. :shrug:
No. My point is moving Forward Fleetwood Mac will not record
an album without Stevie Nicks.
BlueLight
04-28-2014, 03:45 PM
No. My point is moving Forward Fleetwood Mac will not record
an album without Stevie Nicks.
Agreed. Lindsey himself explicitly said so as recently as last year. I truly doubt that Christine's return (which perhaps was even in the works by then), changes that fact.
No. My point is moving Forward Fleetwood Mac will not record
an album without Stevie Nicks.
Agreed. Lindsey himself explicitly said so as recently as last year. I truly doubt that Christine's return (which perhaps was even in the works by then), changes that fact.
i think there's a [probably slight] chance you all are wrong.
when i asked Mick last year, before Christine's return, whether they would consider releasing an album with just Christine if Stevie is not interested, while still touring with Stevie if Christine is not interested, he said, yes, sure. all options are on the table. so i think that they may be even more on the table now when Christine is really back, full time.
WildHearted
04-28-2014, 03:57 PM
Maybe this is one of the things that Stevie learned from Rod Stewart while doing those mini-tours with him. How to balance recording solo albums and getting the "home office" band to tour playing songs from your solo album at the same time.
Here's the scenario:
Stevie's recording a SOLO album, BUT, not doing a solo TOUR to back it up...what she does is get Fleetwood Mac to play the songs she wants to promote from the album.
It worked for Rod Stewart for about 4 or 5 years juggling his solo albums & touring with Faces (and Faces performing songs from Rod Stewart's solo albums after they're released). He didn't have to do a solo tour until after Faces finally called it a day (which was only after Ronnie Wood joined the Stones full-time).
So, maybe the new Fleetwood Mac album will be "sans Stevie" as far as songwriting & lead vocals are concerned, but she'll have a concurrent solo album out & performing the "hit potential" songs from it WITH Fleetwood Mac. It'll give Lindsey & Christine more room for their material on the FMac album, too.
I can very well see this as a compromise solution. All she has to do is get Lindsey to buy in...(by getting him to play on a few songs on her solo album...just like Rod got Ronnie Wood to play on most of his solo albums as well as Faces albums; there was already a "connection" with the material)...I think Mick will do anything to keep her "happy" & in the band. Seems that Christine may have done some keyboard parts on Stevie's songs while in Nashville, as well. So, Christine will have some vested interest in playing the songs live, too.
This sounds good on paper, but ultimately I don't think anyone would be huge on Stevie coming in and saying, "I don't want to record with y'all, but how about we promote my new music on our tour!" Kind of a slap in the face. The blow would be lessened a bit by the others having had a hand in some of the solo songs, yes, but I still don't see anything like that ever happening. Too many egos and too much politics.
chiliD
04-28-2014, 04:02 PM
No. My point is moving Forward Fleetwood Mac will not record
an album without Stevie Nicks.
Their loss. And, another nail in the Fleetwood Mac coffin of creativity.
(with apologies to Lord Tennyson):
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Nostalgia
Rode the Five Fireflies.
"Forward, the Fleetwood Mac!
"Charge for the charts!" he said:
Into the valley of Nostalgia
Rode the Five Fireflies.
"Forward, the Fleetwood Mac!"
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the drummer knew
Someone had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Nostalgia
Rode the Five Fireflies.
Crowd to left of them,
Jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you
Rock'd and thunder'd;
(Only happens when it is raining),
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Nostalgia,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the Five Fireflies.
Flash'd all their guitars bare,
Flash'd as they spun'd in air,
Slayed the audience with guitars there,
Charging an audience, while
All the world wonder'd:
Plunged in the marijuana-smoke
Right thro' the line they broke;
From Tusk onward
Reel'd from the guitar stroke
Shatter'd and sunder'd.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the Five Fireflies.
When can their glory fade?
O the wild tours they made!
All the world wondered.
Honor the albums they made,
Honor the Fleetwood Mac,
Beyond & before the Five Fireflies.
This sounds good on paper, but ultimately I don't think anyone would be huge on Stevie coming in and saying, "I don't want to record with y'all, but how about we promote my new music on our tour!" Kind of a slap in the face. The blow would be lessened a bit by the others having had a hand in some of the solo songs, yes, but I still don't see anything like that ever happening. Too many egos and too much politics.
she keeps slapping them in the face for years, and they keep taking it. so history seems to show they'd take it again. actually they seem to be taking it as we speak. if i were her, i'd see no reason not to keep doing it, too!
Macfanforever
04-28-2014, 04:12 PM
I dont know but I think she's doing more in Nashville that we know of.
I'm thinking positive for a change,:shocked:
Again I have to give her credit for what she is doing at her age when most people are about to retire or retired in Florida or where ever or working part time at Walmart,Home Depot or for her sake as a waitress at Ruby Tuesdays.
And God bless her that she can still do what she loves and enjoy singing to us fans.
I just let her do what her sweet little wildheart wants to do.
I remember all the fuss about the IYD DVD. We got it. Some of us got it signed.I just sit back and let all fall together.
I know if Dave is involve .He probably will be filming the action there what ever whats going on in Nashville or LA..
BlueLight
04-28-2014, 04:20 PM
I dont know but I think she's doing more in Nashville that we know of.
I'm thinking positive for a change,:shocked:
* * *
I remember all the fuss about the IYD DVD. We got it. Some of us got it signed.I just sit back and let all fall together.
I know if Dave is involve .He probably will be filming the action there what ever whats going on in Nashville or LA..
I like your optimism! ;)
And God bless her that she can still do what she loves and enjoy singing to us fans.
I just let her do what her sweet little wildheart wants to do.
i actually agree with you (just to make it clear). i think she should be doing what she wants and loves.
my beef is not with her, my beef is with the rest of the FM. i think they should let her do what she wants to, but if what she's doing does not fit with what they are doing, they should go their own way just like she is.
Macfanforever
04-28-2014, 04:40 PM
I like your optimism! ;)
Thanks.
i actually agree with you (just to make it clear). i think she should be doing what she wants and loves.
my beef is not with her, my beef is with the rest of the FM. i think they should let her do what she wants to, but if what she's doing does not fit with what they are doing, they should go their own way just like she is.
Yes. At this point I'm not going to get all worked up over whats going on with them.
I wish they lassoed Chris in the band couple years ago after Stevie finish her IYD tour and Lindsey s tour and they could work their schedules to get something done and have Chris tour last year in the states..
BlueDenimLamp
04-28-2014, 04:41 PM
i actually agree with you (just to make it clear). i think she should be doing what she wants and loves.
my beef is not with her, my beef is with the rest of the FM. i think they should let her do what she wants to, but if what she's doing does not fit with what they are doing, they should go their own way just like she is.
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/213573095_zps4f559ee0.png
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/gggggh_zps0646596f.png
I wonder if Mick is over compensating for a lack of something...:nod:
Bandon
04-28-2014, 06:58 PM
I'm thrilled by this news! A new Stevie solo album one year and a new Mac album the next... that hasn't happened for the past 25 years.
This is win/win. The more music, the better.
I agree...this hasn't happened in like the past 25 years. It's like the old days. However, the cycle...timing is off, which makes everything unpredictable. There are so many unknown factors. It's great Stevie is recording an album. It will be interesting to see when her new music vs. FMs new music is released. Stevie always gets so much more airplay and sales as a member of FM than solo (past several years), so I'm hoping her solo release isn't lost in the FM touring/album release. On one hand, I love the fact that we are going to get all this new music, but I also want to hear them on the radio again. Not hoping for top 40, just airplay. :D
BlueDenimLamp
04-28-2014, 07:08 PM
I agree...this hasn't happened in like the past 25 years. It's like the old days. However, the cycle...timing is off, which makes everything unpredictable. There are so many unknown factors. It's great Stevie is recording an album. It will be interesting to see when her new music vs. FMs new music is released. Stevie always gets so much more airplay and sales as a member of FM than solo (past several years), so
I'm hoping her solo release isn't lost in the FM touring/album release. On one hand, I love the fact that we are going to get all this new music, but I also want to hear them on the radio again. Not hoping for top 40, just airplay. :D
This is exactly what they are talking about in the "Rumours" section...I don't think Stevie will put a new album out and then go on the road with FM instead of touring with her new music...
BlueLight
04-28-2014, 07:20 PM
Here's a link to the interview where Stevie discusses "two different tours next year" (near the 1:00 mark), which seems to suggest that Stevie is planning a separate solo tour at some point in the near future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG-ymkK2ko0
I guess it's possible that all of this has been planned all along, with a quick release of a solo project and quick promotional tour, followed by a larger tour with FM. But with FM rehearsals starting at the end of the summer, it's hard to see how she could pull that off. My bet is that she does a quick tour this summer unrelated to any album before heading into rehearsals, and holds her solo album for next year.
UnwindedDreams
04-28-2014, 07:50 PM
This sounds good on paper, but ultimately I don't think anyone would be huge on Stevie coming in and saying, "I don't want to record with y'all, but how about we promote my new music on our tour!" Kind of a slap in the face. The blow would be lessened a bit by the others having had a hand in some of the solo songs, yes, but I still don't see anything like that ever happening. Too many egos and too much politics. I think you're right. Stevie said in a December 2012 interview, FM was going to do Soldier's Angel during the 2013 Tour but they didn't. I asked Mick why not at the May 2013 Vegas Meet and Greet and he said the song had a lot of weight to it and Stevie would have had to tell the story of it every night so they decided it should stay in her show.
Also, I think the 2014 songlist will be 28 songs at the most so I don't see room for a new Stevie song when we know they are going to play the 15 hits plus 5 Christine hits and then a mix of album tracks and I guess new Lindsey/Chris songs.
Finally, Stevie said at the Grammys in January she was excited for 2 tours 'next year.' I guess she'll tour her CD in April-May 2015 and tour Europe with FM June 2015
Finally, Stevie said at the Grammys in January she was excited for 2 tours 'next year.' I guess she'll tour her CD in April-May 2015 and tour Europe with FM June 2015
wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?
BlueDenimLamp
04-28-2014, 08:41 PM
wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?
Yes I think one of the tours she was hinting at was the grunge thing with Dave Grohl...
Macfanforever
04-28-2014, 08:56 PM
Yes I think one of the tours she was hinting at was the grunge thing with Dave Grohl...
wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?
Good grief . I dont like hearing that. Noise band .Earplug time.LOL.........
Tour with Lady A anytime.
BlueLight
04-28-2014, 08:59 PM
wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?
I somehow missed that - do you know when she said that?
BlueDenimLamp
04-28-2014, 09:08 PM
Good grief . I dont like hearing that. Noise band .Earplug time. LOL.....
I would much rather she "Rock Out" than work with any of the popular manufactured corporate formula artists that think they know how to play country music...
BlueDenimLamp
04-28-2014, 09:17 PM
I somehow missed that - do you know when she said that?
A couple of months ago she said she would like to go with Dave Grohl one of his grunge tours...Stevie really liked working with him on the "Sound City" thing...
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/Grohl_and_Stevie_Nicks_Relix_Magazine_April_2013_zpsce5175f4.jpg
Macfanforever
04-28-2014, 09:41 PM
I would much rather she "Rock Out" than work with any of the popular manufactured corporate formula artists that think they know how to play country music...
I have to agree with you there like I said about todays country artists.They are not real country.Phony boloney.Stevie would do great with Dolly,Emmylou,George Strait or Vince Gill,Alan Jackson .
I would love to hear her do a duet with Vince Gill.
But I do like Lady A better then some of those other newcomers.
What ever is the best for her.I will be there to support her.
I like Dave as a person but I'm not into his music.He is a great talker in the interviews.
BlueDenimLamp
04-28-2014, 09:55 PM
I have to agree with you there like I said about todays country artists.They are not real country.Phony boloney.Stevie would do great with Dolly,Emmylou,George Strait or Vince Gill,Alan Jackson .
I would love to hear her do a duet with Vince Gill.
But I do like Lady A better then some of those other newcomers.
What ever is the best for her.I will be there to support her.
I like Dave as a person but I'm not into his music.He is a great talker in the interviews.
If only Stevie and Waylon had re-recorded some of Stevie's songs together...
I think Dave Grohl's sound would be toned down quite a bit if he were to be on one of her songs...
BlueLight
04-28-2014, 10:08 PM
A couple of months ago she said she would like to go with Dave Grohl one of his grunge tours...Stevie really liked working with him on the "Sound City" thing...
I remember that interview, but never heard any confirmation that it was anything other than Stevie's random musings. If they are in fact touring together, it seems odd that Dave Grohl was on the Tonight Show the same night as Stevie, but that they didn't perform together. :shrug:
Macfanforever
04-28-2014, 11:41 PM
I remember that interview, but never heard any confirmation that it was anything other than Stevie's random musings. If they are in fact touring together, it seems odd that Dave Grohl was on the Tonight Show the same night as Stevie, but that they didn't perform together. :shrug:
Thank goodness he didn't.:shocked:.LOL.......
michelej1
04-29-2014, 02:11 AM
I think you're right. Stevie said in a December 2012 interview, FM was going to do Soldier's Angel during the 2013 Tour but they didn't. I asked Mick why not at the May 2013 Vegas Meet and Greet and he said the song had a lot of weight to it and Stevie would have had to tell the story of it every night so they decided it should stay in her show.
That's a silly answer from Mick. There's no requirement that you have to explain a song. If people know the background great. If they don't, either they can enjoy the song without knowing what it's about or not. No big deal.
I know when Lindsey did Gift of Screws in concert, there were so many people asking what it meant in email and such. Even when I explained it, they didn't half believe me. I guess they think associating Lindsey and a rock song with Emily Dickinson or perfume pressing must be some kind of hoax. But there's no reason to explain.
When you do a Storytellers type tour, that prologue is quite welcome and I can totally see her discussing Soldier's Angel in her solo concert, but for most concerts I don't think you should introduce to many of the songs.
Michele
louielouie2000
04-29-2014, 08:34 AM
There's no requirement that you have to explain a song.
I don't think you should introduce too many of the songs.
I agree that artists shouldn't introduce too many of their songs, lest it become less of a rock concert & more of a show & tell session.
However, Soldier's Angel is different. Given today's political climate, I don't think Soldier's Angel could be performed sans explanation without ruffling some feathers. People wouldn't know what it's about, and Fox News would probably latch on to the narcissism of Stevie proclaiming herself to be a soldier's angel and we'd have a new Dixie Chicks type situation on our hands. Then Toby Keith would get Mick, Christine, and John deported, and we'd never even hear Fleetwood Mac on the radio again. :laugh:
UnwindedDreams
04-29-2014, 09:03 AM
wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?
She said she hoped she could do a short tour with Grohl after what she had to do in 2014 so I don't think the 2nd tour in 2014 or 15 is a Grohl tour. If she tours solo, I think she should tour in Fall 2015. I think the focus should be on FM in 2014
editme2
04-29-2014, 10:06 AM
I love that Stevie is perhaps recording a new album, and I hope we get to hear it sooner rather than later. I do worry, though, about her voice and physical well-being. I just hope she gives herself enough time to take a little break and rest her voice before hitting the road for what I'm sure will be a long trek with Fleetwood Mac.
Jondalar
04-29-2014, 11:20 AM
This whole thing reminds of The Wild Heart and Mirage time.
This whole thing reminds of The Wild Heart and Mirage time.
and also TISL and SYW.
history repeats itself.
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 11:41 AM
Since this sounds like it is indeed a solo record that Stevie is working on with Dave Stewart it's very surprising that Dave is not tweeting information about the project like he did with "IYD"...In fact there seems to be complete secrecy surrounding what is taking place at Blackbird...We know that people Stevie knows have been at Blackbird but they only mention being at the studio or seeing Dave...Dave has been made aware of the fact that Mick "spilled the beans" about Nashville and Stevie and her people must know that it's not a secret that the fans have a basic knowledge of what's taking place so why are they being so secretive???
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 12:02 PM
This whole thing reminds of The Wild Heart and Mirage time.
Bella Donna, Mirage & Wild Heart... 3 records in three years ...We can only hope this happens again...
michelej1
04-29-2014, 12:43 PM
However, Soldier's Angel is different. Given today's political climate, I don't think Soldier's Angel could be performed sans explanation without ruffling some feathers.
I don't see how explaining the song would make it more palatable to anyone wanting to take political offense. And it doesn't make it less narcissistic either. In fact, giving it an intro may make it sound like it's more about herself than if she just started singing. Regarding content and context, the words of the song are still what they are, even if Stevie talks about Walter Reed first.
Frankly, I think people read the song ambiguously. To me, I hear condemnation, 'about what is righteous' and a reflection on hypocrisy that kills. For me the "Mmmmm" is a judgment, but I don't think everyone hears that.
I think that people on both sides can feel the song is about what they believe, sans introduction. And those who aren't listening with partisan ears will just think that it's in support of the troops, which both sides can get behind.
Michele
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151988875942133&set=a.10150176222057133.299167.12134457132&type=1&theater
Dave Stewart
8 mins · Edited
been here in Nashville since Easter Sunday rocking out with @stevienicks ! Stevie Nicks — in Nashville, TN.
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 04:08 PM
FINALLY!!!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>been here in Nashville since Easter Sunday rocking out with <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks">@stevienicks</a> ! <a href="http://t.co/cIJJq70laX">http://t.co/cIJJq70laX</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461245745790599168">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/1901550_10151988875942133_3612956463239179276_n_zps25ece84a.jpg
Lets hope Dave's tweeting continues...
And someone is on top of things as @StevieNicks (https://twitter.com/StevieNicks) re-tweeted Dave's tweet almost at the same time it was posted...
welcomechris
04-29-2014, 04:53 PM
Are These Stevie's Hands
This is from 5 Mins Ago
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small..... <a href="http://t.co/WOvA5uF9S1">http://t.co/WOvA5uF9S1</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461260973110616064">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 04:59 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small..... <a href="http://t.co/WOvA5uF9S1">http://t.co/WOvA5uF9S1</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461260973110616064">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/10307230_10151988963522133_5922300918708319552_n_zps0df54e36.jpg
Those hands look familiar...:nod:
welcomechris
04-29-2014, 05:06 PM
Could those be lyrics to a new song?
HelloMonster
04-29-2014, 05:12 PM
Could those be lyrics to a new song?
It's lyrics to White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane
UnwindedDreams
04-29-2014, 05:30 PM
Why would he quote White Rabbit? Maybe they're singing it for fun or Dave's high!
I'm looking for any hint I can get about what's going on in Nashville! :laugh:
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 05:41 PM
Why would he quote White Rabbit? Maybe they're singing it for fun or Dave's high!
I'm looking for any hint I can get about what's going on in Nashville! :laugh:
Dave's obviously having a play on words and referencing the large acoustic bass he's playing...
Now that Dave's tweeting about Stevie I asked him if he could post a song sample like he did with "Everybody Loves You"...We'll see what happens...
jkmaletic
04-29-2014, 05:54 PM
Dave's obviously having a play on words and referencing the large acoustic bass he's playing...
Now that Dave's tweeting about Stevie I asked him if he could post a song sample like he did with "Everybody Loves You"...We'll see what happens...
Great idea! Hope he does.
I totally forgot that I spent last Easter with Stevie until I saw that pic of her with the bunny ears! (It was at the IYD screening in LA) Great memories. :)
Christopher
04-29-2014, 06:38 PM
FINALLY!!!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>been here in Nashville since Easter Sunday rocking out with <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks">@stevienicks</a> ! <a href="http://t.co/cIJJq70laX">http://t.co/cIJJq70laX</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461245745790599168">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/1901550_10151988875942133_3612956463239179276_n_zps25ece84a.jpg
She looks happy & content!:angel: Gotta admit, this little pic does makes me salivate for another Stevie solo record! I can't believe 3 years have already flown by since IYD (it does seem like a long time ago.) And probably another year before this project is released (hope I'm wrong) but based on the FM (GH's tour) in the fall, I really can't see a solo album being released before that. I believe Stevie had this planned in 2013 (before Chris came back), as she mentioned in many IYD doc Q&A's in 2012 - that she had already written new songs and had sent them off to Dave. I thrilled to see her back working with Dave and looking so happy & cute!!
Jondalar
04-29-2014, 07:15 PM
She looks happy & content!:angel: Gotta admit, this little pic does makes me salivate for another Stevie solo record! I can't believe 3 years have already flown by since IYD (it does seem like a long time ago.) And probably another year before this project is released (hope I'm wrong) but based on the FM (GH's tour) in the fall, I really can't see a solo album being released before that. I believe Stevie had this planned in 2013 (before Chris came back), as she mentioned in many IYD doc Q&A's in 2012 - that she had already written new songs and had sent them off to Dave. I thrilled to see her back working with Dave and looking so happy & cute!!
I believe that too. She said she had written a bunch of new material. Songs about her mother's death and stuff. I doubt that stuff would be appropriate for Fleetwood Mac.
She is 65. She knows she has limited time.
[QUOTE=Jondalar;1127896]I believe that too. She said she had written a bunch of new material. Songs about her mother's death and stuff. I doubt that stuff would be appropriate for Fleetwood Mac.
Why not?
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 07:45 PM
She looks happy & content!:angel: Gotta admit, this little pic does makes me salivate for another Stevie solo record! I can't believe 3 years have already flown by since IYD (it does seem like a long time ago.) And probably another year before this project is released (hope I'm wrong) but based on the FM (GH's tour) in the fall, I really can't see a solo album being released before that. I believe Stevie had this planned in 2013 (before Chris came back), as she mentioned in many IYD doc Q&A's in 2012 - that she had already written new songs and had sent them off to Dave. I thrilled to see her back working with Dave and looking so happy & cute!!
I agree...I have posted the same thing in another thread...
Now that we know Stevie is working on a record with Dave again it raises a new set of questions...If Stevie had all this planned out last year I would think Mick knew Stevie was going to tour with FM in 2013 and then work on solo Stevie in at least 2014 and perhaps 2015 as well...Now at some point last year Mick sensed Christine wanted to return or could be swayed into returning and when this happened the $$$$$ flashed before his eyes and my guess is he was hopping Christine's return would get Stevie to drop her solo plans and jump on board for another tour and a record...If Stevie had all this planned out last year then I don't blame her one bit for not changing her plans especially if she's made binding commitments...
michelej1
04-29-2014, 07:55 PM
I believe that too. She said she had written a bunch of new material. Songs about her mother's death and stuff. I doubt that stuff would be appropriate for Fleetwood Mac.
Yes, it probably wouldn't be literal like you would never know what Illume and EO17 are about. It takes the writer back to something they were doing at the time, running up the stairs and down the hall, but for the listener, it isn't a song about anyone dying. Jane on the other hand sounds like what it's about:distress: .
Michele
ragrsrocalot
04-29-2014, 07:56 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small..... <a href="http://t.co/WOvA5uF9S1">http://t.co/WOvA5uF9S1</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461260973110616064">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/10307230_10151988963522133_5922300918708319552_n_zps0df54e36.jpg
Those hands look familiar...:nod:
So cool. Thanks Dave!!! Stevie, keep on Rocking, whatever the hell YOU decide to do, and whenever the hell YOU decide to do it. .:xoxo:
Jondalar
04-29-2014, 08:01 PM
Yes, it probably wouldn't be literal like you would never know what Illume and EO17 are about. It takes the writer back to something they were doing at the time, running up the stairs and down the hall, but for the listener, it isn't a song about anyone dying. Jane on the other hand sounds like what it's about:distress: .
Michele
she is writing with Dave, and her songs are more clear
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 08:10 PM
Seeing Stevie in the studio with Dave again only strengthens my belief that whatever Stevie does with FM Dave will be heavily involved...
MikeInNV
04-29-2014, 09:50 PM
This whole thing reminds of The Wild Heart and Mirage time.
and also TISL and SYW.
history repeats itself.
Actually this situation seems unique to me. For Mirage/Wild Heart, the band did the album and a tour, and then ALL of them went to work on solo projects. I don't think they were enjoying each other all that much at that point. For TISL/SYW, Stevie's album was coming out and of course she would tour as she had for every one of her previous albums. Ever since she began a solo career, the band has always scheduled recording sessions knowing they can work for a while without Stevie and that she can join them later. This is the first time she has started a project when Fleetwood Mac needed her (and this is assuming that she isn't doing some FM-related work as we speak, which I suspect she is, if for no other reason than Christine's presence in Nashville).
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 10:03 PM
Actually this situation seems unique to me. For Mirage/Wild Heart, the band did the album and a tour, and then ALL of them went to work on solo projects. I don't think they were enjoying each other all that much at that point. For TISL/SYW, Stevie's album was coming out and of course she would tour as she had for every one of her previous albums. Ever since she began a solo career, the band has always scheduled recording sessions knowing they can work for a while without Stevie and that she can join them later. This is the first time she has started a project when Fleetwood Mac needed her (and this is assuming that she isn't doing some FM-related work as we speak, which I suspect she is, if for no other reason than Christine's presence in Nashville).
As I posted earlier she may have had this planned and made commitments before there was any hint of Christine's return...
MikeInNV
04-29-2014, 10:06 PM
As I posted earlier she may have had this planned and made commitments before there was any hint of Christine's return...
Yes, that's true. But I was just pointing out that I don't think this scenario has played out before.
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 10:36 PM
Yes, that's true. But I was just pointing out that I don't think this scenario has played out before.
I think "Mirage" & "Tango" were both started while Stevie was involved in a solo project...
MikeInNV
04-29-2014, 10:40 PM
I think "Mirage" & "Tango" were both started while Stevie was involved in a solo project...
Yes, she was involved in solo projects that were already underway when Fleetwood Mac convened. She didn't start one after they went into the studio.
Jondalar
04-29-2014, 10:41 PM
Yes, that's true. But I was just pointing out that I don't think this scenario has played out before.
I don't think it's that unique. From 1979 to 1989, Stevie was involved 5 Fleetwood Mac albums, including a greatest hits and live album plus 4 solo albums. She is used to juggling projects.
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 11:11 PM
Yes, she was involved in solo projects that were already underway when Fleetwood Mac convened. She didn't start one after they went into the studio.
Fleetwood Mac may be the one that started an album knowing full well that Stevie would be starting a solo record at about the same time...
michelej1
04-29-2014, 11:25 PM
This is the first time she has started a project when Fleetwood Mac needed her (and this is assuming that she isn't doing some FM-related work as we speak, which I suspect she is, if for no other reason than Christine's presence in Nashville).
She toured with Petty and Dylan when FM needed her. Yes, her drug rehab needs was beyond her control, but the little side tour wasn't.
Michele
vivfox
04-29-2014, 11:31 PM
She toured with Petty and Dylan when FM needed her. Yes, her drug rehab needs was beyond her control, but the little side tour wasn't.
That tour was not preplanned but after some calls she decided to go to the other side of the world.
BlueDenimLamp
04-29-2014, 11:37 PM
She toured with Petty and Dylan when FM needed her. Yes, her drug rehab needs was beyond her control, but the little side tour wasn't.
Michele
Stevie wasn't in Australia very long and that was when she was promoting RAL...
Lindsey quit the band when they needed him...
michelej1
04-30-2014, 12:28 AM
Stevie wasn't in Australia very long and that was when she was promoting RAL...
Lindsey quit the band when they needed him...
After producing and recording the album that they toured him, which was a very successful album. And at least Lindsey LEFT and they replaced him. They weren't just sitting around putting everything on hold.
However, I have said that the band shouldn't have waited for Lindsey from 1982-1987. The comment regarding the Dylan/Petty tour had nothing to do with Lindsey. It had to do with whether Stevie has kept the band waiting before. I said she had and she has.
I never said Lindsey hadn't.
Michele
MikeVielhaber
04-30-2014, 12:31 AM
I don't think it's that unique. From 1979 to 1989, Stevie was involved 5 Fleetwood Mac albums, including a greatest hits and live album plus 4 solo albums. She is used to juggling projects.
She was recording regularly with FM back then. Since SYW she's shown (and expressed) a strong reluctance to record with the band. Only singing some background vocals for the EP last year. I don't think the situations are comparable in terms of her mindset. Not to mention they actually had a recording contract back then.
MikeVielhaber
04-30-2014, 12:40 AM
Fleetwood Mac may be the one that started an album knowing full well that Stevie would be starting a solo record at about the same time...
I don't buy this theory that this album has long been in the works. That sometime last year she had these mere 2 weeks booked to record an album. I don't think she would agree to the tour this year if she'd already planned to release a solo album. I don't think she would do that knowing it would kill her album commercially without being able to promote it. To me it seems like something she put together knowing she doesn't have a lot of time. And maybe because she's knocking it out so quickly and not laboring over it she's ok with the tour taking precedence.
wheart
04-30-2014, 08:06 AM
I don't buy this theory that this album has long been in the works. That sometime last year she had these mere 2 weeks booked to record an album. I don't think she would agree to the tour this year if she'd already planned to release a solo album. I don't think she would do that knowing it would kill her album commercially without being able to promote it. To me it seems like something she put together knowing she doesn't have a lot of time. And maybe because she's knocking it out so quickly and not laboring over it she's ok with the tour taking precedence.
I think she had a very strong desire to do another solo record with Dave after IYD was finished. Her timeframe was probably a lot wider before Christine returned. Now she had to get creative with her time management. So I agree she most likely didn't plan on recording a new solo album in two weeks in Nashville but had to adapt or not do it at all.
jkmaletic
04-30-2014, 09:54 AM
I think she had a very strong desire to do another solo record with Dave after IYD was finished. Her timeframe was probably a lot wider before Christine returned. Now she had to get creative with her time management. So I agree she most likely didn't plan on recording a new solo album in two weeks in Nashville but had to adapt or not do it at all.
Exactly.
And I don't think she's going to record this and let it sit for two years while touring with FM. I bet we get a release very soon (May). She can promote it for a couple months (May-June), do a few small venue shows (July) and then still have time to rehearse for the tour (August).
As far as recording new stuff for FM, that could be worked out in between, as it's likely to be just another EP anyway.
Jamie
GavinBrown
04-30-2014, 10:22 AM
No way will this be out by May...look guys, who is to say they aren't laying down these tracks now for an upcoming fleetwood mac project? Maybe she wanted to lay down some stuff with Dave first before sending it off to the Mac?
louielouie2000
04-30-2014, 10:30 AM
Exactly.
And I don't think she's going to record this and let it sit for two years while touring with FM. I bet we get a release very soon (May). She can promote it for a couple months (May-June), do a few small venue shows (July) and then still have time to rehearse for the tour (August).
As far as recording new stuff for FM, that could be worked out in between, as it's likely to be just another EP anyway.
Jamie
If she did what you're suggesting- recorded her album quickly, got it released quickly, then toured smaller venues only performing material from the album, she could get the best critical reviews of her career. However, I doubt Stevie will do any of this. :sorry:
I think in her mind, she just toured with Fleetwood Mac last year, and is resistant to immediately go back to them. We all know how she prefers to vacillate between her two careers. I don't see Stevie getting a solo album out before the Mac tour, but if she does, my hat is off to her.
No way will this be out by May...look guys, who is to say they aren't laying down these tracks now for an upcoming fleetwood mac project? Maybe she wanted to lay down some stuff with Dave first before sending it off to the Mac?
Mick Fleetwood said that she's in Nashville with Dave to record a solo album. There's an audio recording of him saying that. I have my doubts that's what's going to happen, though. I still feel she's working on Mac demos... or in the very least, her material will get rolled into Fleetwood Mac in the end. It's happened to Lindsey multiple times- it's Stevie's turn now.
san-l-bar
04-30-2014, 10:32 AM
Right guys. Who's to say Stevie is actually churning out her solo album now? Isn't it a little presumptuous? I seem to recall that Stevie likes recording demos like they're actual tracks, so perhaps she's just recording demos with Dave because that's where he's at right now? Or maybe shes collaborating with Dave for HIS work. Whether they are working on her solo stuff, his stuff or demos, its all speculation at this point. All we know is they're doing something.
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 10:33 AM
No way will this be out by May...look guys, who is to say they aren't laying down these tracks now for an upcoming fleetwood mac project? Maybe she wanted to lay down some stuff with Dave first before sending it off to the Mac?
Because when Mick was asked what Stevie was doing in Nashville he replied "She's working on an album" not "She's working on her songs for Fleetwood Mac"
Jondalar
04-30-2014, 10:35 AM
Right guys. Who's to say Stevie is actually churning out her solo album now? Isn't it a little presumptuous? I seem to recall that Stevie likes recording demos like they're actual tracks, so perhaps she's just recording demos with Dave because that's where he's at right now? Or maybe shes collaborating with Dave for HIS work. Whether they are working on her solo stuff, his stuff or demos, its all speculation at this point. All we know is they're doing something.
Mick said she was recording album.
MikeVielhaber
04-30-2014, 10:46 AM
Because when Mick was asked what Stevie was doing in Nashville he replied "She's working on an album" not "She's working on her songs for Fleetwood Mac"
Yes, he definitively said she was working on a solo album.
jkmaletic
04-30-2014, 10:58 AM
Yes, he definitively said she was working on a solo album.
Right. Why are people doubting something out of the horse's mouth??
And why wouldn't she put it out? Why sit on it 2 years?
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 11:06 AM
If she did what you're suggesting- recorded her album quickly, got it released quickly, then toured smaller venues only performing material from the album, she could get the best critical reviews of her career. However, I doubt Stevie will do any of this. :sorry:
I think in her mind, she just toured with Fleetwood Mac last year, and is resistant to immediately go back to them. We all know how she prefers to vacillate between her two careers. I don't see Stevie getting a solo album out before the Mac tour, but if she does, my hat is off to her.
Mick Fleetwood said that she's in Nashville with Dave to record a solo album. There's an audio recording of him saying that. I have my doubts that's what's going to happen, though. I still feel she's working on Mac demos... or in the very least, her material will get rolled into Fleetwood Mac in the end. It's happened to Lindsey multiple times- it's Stevie's turn now.
Neil Young did just that...He recorded his "Prairie Wind" album in Nashville very quickly writing 1 or 2 new songs a day...When the album was finished he rehearsed the songs for a week or two and then debuted the songs live at the Ryman (A few classics were added to round things out) before the album was even out...The whole process was documented in his "Heart Of Gold" DVD...Dave has done a similar thing where he debuts an album at the Belcourt Theater in Nashville...I agree with you that if Stevie were to do anything like this it would be quite shocking but with Dave on board and a short time frame to work with who knows...
As far as FM goes don't be surprised if Dave has a major hand in Stevie's Mac songs as well...
MikeVielhaber
04-30-2014, 11:07 AM
Right. Why are people doubting something out of the horse's mouth??
And why wouldn't she put it out? Why sit on it 2 years?
Right, she's rushing the recording of this album. She's not going to sit on it. She could record it in 2 weeks after the Fleetwood Mac tour if she wanted to. She's choosing to do it now.
wheart
04-30-2014, 11:14 AM
Yes, he definitively said she was working on a solo album.
I doubt a solo album, too but how could Mick get it that wrong?? Surely he knows what the hell Stevie is doing. She is part of the band and especially now, with the upcoming tour/possible recording happening.
I keep looking at the recent pic of Stevie with the bunny ears. She's got this "wouldn't you guys love to know what I'm up to" smirk on her face. I love it.
SpyNote
04-30-2014, 11:15 AM
That tour was not preplanned but after some calls she decided to go to the other side of the world.
:laugh: :laugh::laugh:
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 11:27 AM
YES!!!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>who thinks there should be a Design Stevie Nicks album Cover Contest hosted by Talenthouse ? Me for a start ! <a href="http://t.co/44W63k5G6c">http://t.co/44W63k5G6c</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461541743385919488">April 30, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Do we need any more proof???
I wonder if they are already trying to generate "media buzz" for the record???
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/10177938_10151990201602133_3925612071911206505_n_zps27f728d1.jpg
I wonder if Dave Grohl will be on the new SOLO record???
michelej1
04-30-2014, 12:06 PM
Exactly.
And I don't think she's going to record this and let it sit for two years while touring with FM. I bet we get a release very soon (May). She can promote it for a couple months (May-June), do a few small venue shows (July) and then still have time to rehearse for the tour (August).
As far as recording new stuff for FM, that could be worked out in between, as it's likely to be just another EP anyway.
Jamie
It could actually come out sooner, because right now FM doesn't have any dates for early next year. We can conclude they will do Glastonbury, but other than that, until we see more dates pour out, things are open for FM for the first 6 months of 2015.
Michele
michelej1
04-30-2014, 12:10 PM
Right guys. Who's to say Stevie is actually churning out her solo album now? Isn't it a little presumptuous? I seem to recall that Stevie likes recording demos like they're actual tracks, so perhaps she's just recording demos with Dave because that's where he's at right now? Or maybe shes collaborating with Dave for HIS work. Whether they are working on her solo stuff, his stuff or demos, its all speculation at this point. All we know is they're doing something.
I know about the old Los Angeles wrecking crew and I guess Nashville has its own equivalent. But these are the type of studio musicians that get paid for their proficiency and they don't usually do it for demos. I mean, for that level of quick talent, you're paying a nifty sum and I don't think it would be for demos.
Michele
jkmaletic
04-30-2014, 12:13 PM
See??!!
This thing might just be out NEXT MONTH! Just in time for another Wiltern Birthday Show!!! :)
I'm totally on the album artwork contest too! How cool! Thinking of ideas right now...
Jamie
reebokandlace
04-30-2014, 12:25 PM
I just don't like Dave Stewart. I don't think he did a very good job on IYD and quite frankly the guy seems to insert himself into Stevie's light too much. Just don't like it. Egomaniac and a press whore. JMO
AnthonyMI
04-30-2014, 12:32 PM
I just don't like Dave Stewart. I don't think he did a very good job on IYD and quite frankly the guy seems to insert himself into Stevie's light too much. Just don't like it. Egomaniac and a press whore. JMO
:o
HAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.
:sorry:
Ok.. but seriously... Sheryl Crow did the SAME thing, if not WORSE. I mean... she performed with her at the Blockbuster Awards, she sang BACKUP on almost every song on TISL, She halfassed produced half of TISL, she toured with Stevie, she inserted herself into TWO Stevie videos, She told everyone she was Joining Fleetwood Mac before it was official, she bownnoses Stevie every chance she gets.
I mean. really. I think Dave did a great job with IYD. It was consistently GOOD for 95% of the album, sans Cheaper Than Free.
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 02:03 PM
Stevie's recording in Nashville is starting to get some media attention...
Has Stevie Nicks been working on a new album?
While representatives are keeping tight-lipped, reports have been circulating on the Internet. There have been strong rumors that the singer is finally returning to the recording studio working on a what might be a back-to-roots album.
According to a source, rumors of Stevie Nicks (from Fleetwood Mac) working in recording studio are true, with as many as eight songs having been put to tape. “It’s still in the early stages,” “She’s got security on the doors to ensure no-one hears a whisper,” a source said.
Stevie Nicks is rumoured to be planning a worldwide tour at the end of 2015. When contacted, a representative had no information on a new album, or any of the singer’s future plans. This isn’t the first time in recent memory reports have surfaced about Stevie Nicks recording sessions. Fans will be anxiously awaiting...
Read the full article...Stevie Nicks New Album (http://en.mediamass.net/people/stevie-nicks/new-album.html)
Believe It Or Not...
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 02:15 PM
YES!!!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>who thinks there should be a Design Stevie Nicks album Cover Contest hosted by Talenthouse ? Me for a start ! <a href="http://t.co/44W63k5G6c">http://t.co/44W63k5G6c</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461541743385919488">April 30, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Do we need any more proof???
I wonder if they are already trying to generate "media buzz" for the record???
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/10177938_10151990201602133_3925612071911206505_n_zps27f728d1.jpg
I wonder if Dave Grohl will be on the new SOLO record???
Oh my god.Now I can use the CD for target practice.LOL....................
Only kidding.......
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 02:19 PM
I'm glad that Stevie is sticking with Dave producing her music.As we seen in the DVD she had a ball working with him and not those tense FM recording sessions.
jkmaletic
04-30-2014, 02:22 PM
Stevie's recording in Nashville is starting to get some media attention...
Has Stevie Nicks been working on a new album?
While representatives are keeping tight-lipped, reports have been circulating on the Internet. There have been strong rumors that the singer is finally returning to the recording studio working on a what might be a back-to-roots album.
According to a source, rumors of Stevie Nicks (from Fleetwood Mac) working in recording studio are true, with as many as eight songs having been put to tape. “It’s still in the early stages,” “She’s got security on the doors to ensure no-one hears a whisper,” a source said.
Stevie Nicks is rumoured to be planning a worldwide tour at the end of 2015. When contacted, a representative had no information on a new album, or any of the singer’s future plans. This isn’t the first time in recent memory reports have surfaced about Stevie Nicks recording sessions. Fans will be anxiously awaiting...
Read the full article...Stevie Nicks New Album (http://en.mediamass.net/people/stevie-nicks/new-album.html)
Believe It Or Not...
LOL- some of that article sounds like they got the information here.
She's not gonna wait until 2015 to put this thing out. Not when everything else seems to be moving so fast.
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 02:29 PM
I rather see her solo tour promote a new album then a FM tour but this FM tour is special because of Chris being present.I could not miss this opportunity to miss it. If this was happening last year at this time she could of ditched the 2013 FM tour for a solo tour.
MikeVielhaber
04-30-2014, 02:35 PM
LOL- some of that article sounds like they got the information here.
She's not gonna wait until 2015 to put this thing out. Not when everything else seems to be moving so fast.
It doesn't say she'll put it out in 2015 it says she'll tour in 2015. She definitely can't tour before that.
Jondalar
04-30-2014, 02:48 PM
YES!!!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>who thinks there should be a Design Stevie Nicks album Cover Contest hosted by Talenthouse ? Me for a start ! <a href="http://t.co/44W63k5G6c">http://t.co/44W63k5G6c</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461541743385919488">April 30, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Do we need any more proof???
I wonder if they are already trying to generate "media buzz" for the record???
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/10177938_10151990201602133_3925612071911206505_n_zps27f728d1.jpg
I wonder if Dave Grohl will be on the new SOLO record???
Give me the album name and I will make an album cover.
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 02:56 PM
As the reports says .She probably tour in 2015 which put the rumours arrest of FM continuing to tour later in 2015.
Sorry to hear that news for the fans that will be skipping out of going to a show even with Chris present.
I might just add another show last minute myself.
Interesting as the report says about rumours online as their source of info.
Hawkeye
04-30-2014, 03:03 PM
I wonder if Dave Grohl is the drummer for most of the album? Mick seems to not be involved. The only other guy she's used recently is Steve ferone and I think he's busy with TP. She never uses her touring drummer for some reason so unless Dave Stewart supplied someone my money is on Dave grohl.
MikeVielhaber
04-30-2014, 03:11 PM
I wonder if Dave Grohl is the drummer for most of the album? Mick seems to not be involved. The only other guy she's used recently is Steve ferone and I think he's busy with TP. She never uses her touring drummer for some reason so unless Dave Stewart supplied someone my money is on Dave grohl.
Sounded like they were using Nashville musicians plus we know Waddy is involved. Mick referred to them as the "wrecking crew".
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 03:18 PM
I wonder if Dave Grohl is the drummer for most of the album? Mick seems to not be involved. The only other guy she's used recently is Steve Ferone and I think he's busy with TP. She never uses her touring drummer for some reason so unless Dave Stewart supplied someone my money is on Dave Grohl.
I'm sure Mick would love to be involved and collect another paycheck...But...Fans are already divided over Stevie being in Nashville so how would it look if Mick was also working with Stevie on a solo project instead of being in L.A. with the band...
Maybe Dave is sending us a message with that picture so you may be right...
UnwindedDreams
04-30-2014, 03:23 PM
As the reports says .She probably tour in 2015 which put the rumours arrest of FM continuing to tour later in 2015.
Christine said to Rolling Stone Mac is most likely going to tour North America in January 2015 then tour the world. Following past tours, I think FM will tour Australia/NZ February-March. The Glastonbury founder said he's trying to get FM for 2015 so I think Europe tour from June-August 2015.
I think Stevie should release her cd August/September 2015 when FM's done and perform in theaters for her tour. I think she's recording in Nashville now because she doesn't have to report to FM until July. Once she's with FM in July, she won't be able to record solo music. So she's recording now so she can release it in 2015. That's what I think!
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 03:24 PM
OK. Is Chris still in Music City .Is she there visiting or working with Stevie and Dave and the crew.
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 03:29 PM
Christine said to Rolling Stone Mac is most likely going to tour North America in January 2015 then tour the world. Following past tours, I think FM will tour Australia/NZ February-March. The Glastonbury founder said he's trying to get FM for 2015 so I think Europe tour from June-August 2015.
I think Stevie should release her cd August/September 2015 when FM's done and perform in theaters for her tour. I think she's recording in Nashville now because she doesn't have to report to FM until July. Once she's with FM in July, she won't be able to record solo music
Thanks for the info John.I'm glad that FM will continue over the big pond in 2015 after they had to cancelled shows last year.
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 03:36 PM
OK. Is Chris still in Music City .Is she there visiting or working with Stevie and Dave and the crew.
When it was thought Stevie was working on FM stuff it was thought CM was there to make sure the songs were FM ish...Since it's a solo project CM's presence seems odd...Is she still there...Who knows...Mick didn't mention CM at all when he was asked about Nashville...
Jondalar
04-30-2014, 03:46 PM
Sounded like they were using Nashville musicians plus we know Waddy is involved. Mick referred to them as the "wrecking crew".
She is making her album like Dave made his past album. It was done at record speed.
bombaysaffires
04-30-2014, 03:49 PM
Sounded like they were using Nashville musicians plus we know Waddy is involved. Mick referred to them as the "wrecking crew".
I thought that was what Dave called his crew when he made his album; it was like his team of musicians and engineers and such….
Jondalar
04-30-2014, 03:52 PM
I thought that was what Dave called his crew when he made his album; it was like his team of musicians and engineers and such….
He did.....
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 04:02 PM
When it was thought Stevie was working on FM stuff it was thought CM was there to make sure the songs were FM ish...Since it's a solo project CM's presence seems odd...Is she still there...Who knows...Mick didn't mention CM at all when he was asked about Nashville...
OK thanks for explaining it.
She is making her album like Dave made his past album. It was done at record speed.
Wow .Thats great and thats how it should be.Not as usual turtle speed as FM works in the studio .
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 04:03 PM
I thought that was what Dave called his crew when he made his album; it was like his team of musicians and engineers and such….
The term "Wrecking Crew" refers to a group of top notch studio musicians and has been around since the '60's...Buckingham/Nicks drummer Jim Keltner along with Glen Campbell & Leon Russell were part of probably the most famous Wrecking Crew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wrecking_Crew_(music))
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 04:11 PM
She is making her album like Dave made his past album. It was done at record speed.
Yes...Dave recorded his last few records at "Blackbird" and were done in around 2 weeks so Stevie seems to be doing the same...
Since people are always pointing out that Stevie is only as good as the people she works with and this time she is working with a "Wrecking Crew"this should be good...
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 04:13 PM
The term "Wrecking Crew" refers to a group of top notch studio musicians and has been around since the '60's...Buckingham/Nicks drummer Jim Keltner along with Glen Campbell & Leon Russell were part of probably the most famous Wrecking Crew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wrecking_Crew_(music))
Yes The Wrecking Crew over the years produced top notch recordings of music from who's who in studio musicians and music artists come together and record.
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 04:15 PM
Yes...Dave recorded his last few records at "Blackbird" and were done in around 2 weeks so Stevie seems to be doing the same...
Since people are always pointing out that Stevie is only as good as the people she works with and this time she is working with a "Wrecking Crew"this should be good...
I wish FM would do something like this.
I now cant wait to hear it.
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 04:31 PM
I wish FM would do something like this.
I now cant wait to hear it.
The more I think about it I don't see Stevie putting all this into a solo record and then just throwing it out there before the fall FM tour...I think she'll wait until she can properly promote and tour with the new record...
Macfanforever
04-30-2014, 06:37 PM
The more I think about it I don't see Stevie putting all this into a solo record and then just throwing it out there before the fall FM tour...I think she'll wait until she can properly promote and tour with the new record...
Yes I agree.She probably wants to get the bulk of the recording and mixing done before FM hits the road. Stevie and Dave can do some tweaking if needed before it drops.
And maybe toss some FM demos together if she has extra time.Thinking positive.
I hope Dave has his cameras rolling during the sessions.
On properly promoting the new music.
As we seen what happened when she toured with Rod Stewart and by the time her IYD dropped she was ill and could not promote it.
Yes it was great to get out there and it payed some of her bills but it overexerted her and got ill.
Since people are always pointing out that Stevie is only as good as the people she works with and this time she is working with a "Wrecking Crew"this should be good...
i thought people always said she's only as good as her producers. :shrug:
Stevie's recording in Nashville is starting to get some media attention...
Has Stevie Nicks been working on a new album?
While representatives are keeping tight-lipped, reports have been circulating on the Internet. There have been strong rumors that the singer is finally returning to the recording studio working on a what might be a back-to-roots album.
According to a source, rumors of Stevie Nicks (from Fleetwood Mac) working in recording studio are true, with as many as eight songs having been put to tape. “It’s still in the early stages,” “She’s got security on the doors to ensure no-one hears a whisper,” a source said.
Stevie Nicks is rumoured to be planning a worldwide tour at the end of 2015. When contacted, a representative had no information on a new album, or any of the singer’s future plans.
LOL- some of that article sounds like they got the information here.
it does, doesn't it? :lol:
but they must have at least been stalking that Nashville studio, considering they said there's security on the doors, they couldn't get in, or get any info there. all the more reason for hats off once again to our own HelloMonster for unbelievable questioning and reporting!! :thumbsup: without her probably none of this info would have been out for a while!!
if true and not completely made up, that piece of info about the 2015 SN solo worldwide tour is something that makes me unbelievably happy!! means FM will be done by then! finally a piece of good news for this LB fan!! :rolleyes:
Christopher
04-30-2014, 07:33 PM
i thought people always said she's only as good as her producers. :shrug:
That's low (even for you) :p
It wouldn't be a Stevie record without her voice & artistic vision & unique songwriting!
Yes, because obviously she is not accomplished at any instrument, knowing just enough piano & guitar to compose her songs, she has to rely and TRUST musicians and arrangers to bring her vision to fruition. If she does not like the outcome she simply does not release it, or re-record songs until she is satisfied (as she did on at least 3 IYD songs (as revealed in the IYD doc) when she was not satisfied with Dave's & co. initial takes on "New Orleans", "In Your Dreams" & of course "Soldier's Angel". Stevie, more than ever, knows what results she wants! "Time makes your bolder" ;)
michelej1
04-30-2014, 07:44 PM
I'm sure Mick would love to be involved and collect another paycheck...But...Fans are already divided over Stevie being in Nashville so how would it look if Mick was also working with Stevie on a solo project instead of being in L.A. with the band...
I wouldn't think anything about Mick doing it. He always does little cameos with Stevie. Whether it's playing drums on a song or making a crazy appearance in a video, I kind of expect it of him. I am more astounded about Christine.
Michele
michelej1
04-30-2014, 07:47 PM
I wonder if people would make different designs if they thought it would be a country album than if they think it's going to be pop/rock.
I'm telling you, I did not like that horse on IYD. Even a midnight black horse would have been better. Don't design a horse for the next album cover, guys.
Michele
Christopher
04-30-2014, 08:07 PM
It won't be a "country" record. Maybe rootsier and rawer than TISL or IYD, more in the vein of "Bella Donna", or even "Street Angel." I'm hoping she's recording more blusier stuff ala "You May Be The One." :nod:
And besides, Stevie has AlWAYS recorded a song or two for many records that were country-esqe: After The Glitter Fades, Highwayman, That's Alright, Garbo, I Sing For The Things, I Still Miss Someone (Blue Eyes), Rose Garden, Too Far From Texas, Cheaper Than Free, For What It's Worth. :shrug:
That's low
:laugh::laugh: you are funny. you must know that has nothing to do with me, i was just correcting the quote about what has actually been said that bluedenimlamp shared. if even i saw that producer quote and i only follow FM-related stuff, i'm sure you must have seen it tons of times. (but maybe you blocked it out?)
i didn't say i agree or disagree. because, frankly, i don't really care. :shrug:
Christopher
04-30-2014, 08:12 PM
:laugh::laugh: you are funny. you must know that has nothing to do with me, i was just correcting the quote about what has actually been said that bluedenimlamp shared. if even i saw that producer quote and i only follow FM-related stuff, i'm sure you must have seen it tons of times. (but maybe you blocked it out?)
i didn't say i agree or disagree. because, frankly, i don't really care. :shrug:
But you certainly seemed to perpetuate it with glee. :xoxo:
HelloMonster
04-30-2014, 08:17 PM
it does, doesn't it? :lol:
but they must have at least been stalking that Nashville studio, considering they said there's security on the doors, they couldn't get in, or get any info there. all the more reason for hats off once again to our own HelloMonster for unbelievable questioning and reporting!! :thumbsup: without her probably none of this info would have been out for a while!!
if true and not completely made up, that piece of info about the 2015 SN solo worldwide tour is something that makes me unbelievably happy!! means FM will be done by then! finally a piece of good news for this LB fan!! :rolleyes:
Aw thank you, Elle. :xoxo: I'm just glad he responded to my question and didn't play dumb or pretend not to hear! And I'm with you. I'm BEYOND ready for hopefully OMS again!
michelej1
04-30-2014, 08:21 PM
It won't be a "country" record. Maybe rootsier and rawer than TISL or IYD, more in the vein of "Bella Donna", or even "Street Angel." I'm hoping she's recording more blusier stuff ala "You May Be The One." :nod:
I don't care if it's country or not. I listen to country. She probably wouldn't want to market it like that though, even if it did have country leanings.
I was just wondering if people in the proposed design contest would think differently, if they thought it would be a country album.
Michele
michelej1
04-30-2014, 08:22 PM
Aw thank you, Elle. :xoxo: I'm just glad he responded to my question and didn't play dumb or pretend not to hear! And I'm with you. I'm BEYOND ready for hopefully OMS again!
I agree with you that it's such a relief that he didn't dodge the question or pretend not to hear (like one of his bandmate's does when he's not in the mood). When you left, I was hoping that you would ask him that, but I didn't really think anything would come of it.
Boy, did you surprise us all with the news from the horse's mouth.
Michele
jkmaletic
04-30-2014, 08:25 PM
I wonder if people would make different designs if they thought it would be a country album than if they think it's going to be pop/rock.
I'm telling you, I did not like that horse on IYD. Even a midnight black horse would have been better. Don't design a horse for the next album cover, guys.
Michele
I'm going to give it a shot, so are you ok with a unicorn?
;)
Christopher
04-30-2014, 08:32 PM
I'm going to give it a shot, so are you ok with a unicorn?
;)
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: :laugh::laugh:
michelej1
04-30-2014, 08:41 PM
I'm going to give it a shot, so are you ok with a unicorn?
;)
Good luck!
That t-shirt design contest for FM really turned out nice last time. I saw some great entries. I'd love it if they did another contest for FM that would also include Christine.
Michele
Aw thank you, Elle. :xoxo: I'm just glad he responded to my question and didn't play dumb or pretend not to hear! And I'm with you. I'm BEYOND ready for hopefully OMS again!
hey just giving the credit where credit is due! you not only asked the question, but you were also able to get the actual response!
without you, people here wouldn't be jumping happily up and down about getting new SN solo album, and DS wouldn't be all of the sudden doing damage control on various social media outlets. and i wouldn't have any hope that LB might actually do something solo in 2015 after all! :blob2:
vivfox
04-30-2014, 09:02 PM
hey just giving the credit where credit is due! you not only asked the question, but you were also able to get the actual response!
without you, people here wouldn't be jumping happily up and down about getting new SN solo album
It's true Hello Monster. You are the one the entire FM community has to thank for learning this information.
BlueDenimLamp
04-30-2014, 09:11 PM
hey just giving the credit where credit is due! you not only asked the question, but you were also able to get the actual response!
without you, people here wouldn't be jumping happily up and down about getting new SN solo album, and DS wouldn't be all of the sudden doing damage control on various social media outlets. and i wouldn't have any hope that LB might actually do something solo in 2015 after all! :blob2:
Where is this???
StreetAngel86
04-30-2014, 11:50 PM
I'm going to give it a shot, so are you ok with a unicorn?
;)
don't forget the rainbows, gold dust and fairies :D
louielouie2000
05-01-2014, 09:17 AM
Where is this???
Elle is referring to Dave starting to tweet pics & info about Stevie being in Nashville with him. Odds are, he very much knows Stevie's being in Nashville recording a solo album has greatly pissed off many Fleetwood Mac fans, and he's simply doing damage control by drumming up excitment for a Stevie solo album.
BlueDenimLamp
05-01-2014, 09:52 AM
Elle is referring to Dave starting to tweet pics & info about Stevie being in Nashville with him. Odds are, he very much knows Stevie's being in Nashville recording a solo album has greatly pissed off many Fleetwood Mac fans, and he's simply doing damage control by drumming up excitment for a Stevie solo album.
Yes I know what Dave has been doing as he follows me on twitter and I'm sure he saw the twitter links to the audio "Hello Monster" posted of Mick "Spilling The Beans" about Nashville ...It sounded like Elle had found additional information elsewhere and that was what I was inquiring about...I'm sure Stevie knew her going to Nashville would ruffle a few feathers and that may be part of the reason things have been kept quiet...
Jondalar
05-01-2014, 10:50 AM
How can u make an album cover without the name of the album?
BlueDenimLamp
05-01-2014, 10:57 AM
How can u make an album cover without the name of the album?
Dave was simply asking what we thought...There's no contest ...Yet...
I agree one would need more information to know what direction designing an album cover should take..
BlueLight
05-01-2014, 11:42 AM
The only thing I can add at this point -- other than speculation -- is that I am so incredibly excited about all of this news. I was looking back at a 2010 thread when Dave first starting tweeting about his involvement with IYD, and there are so many parallels - except things seem to be moving much more quickly this time around. Can't wait to see what they put out. :]
HelloMonster
05-01-2014, 12:31 PM
hey just giving the credit where credit is due! you not only asked the question, but you were also able to get the actual response!
without you, people here wouldn't be jumping happily up and down about getting new SN solo album, and DS wouldn't be all of the sudden doing damage control on various social media outlets. and i wouldn't have any hope that LB might actually do something solo in 2015 after all! :blob2:
It's true Hello Monster. You are the one the entire FM community has to thank for learning this information.
Thank you both for your kind words! :xoxo:
Elle is referring to Dave starting to tweet pics & info about Stevie being in Nashville with him. Odds are, he very much knows Stevie's being in Nashville recording a solo album has greatly pissed off many Fleetwood Mac fans, and he's simply doing damage control by drumming up excitment for a Stevie solo album.
Yes.
Thanks for taking the time to explain.
michelej1
05-01-2014, 01:42 PM
Give me the album name and I will make an album cover.
It's not like the Bella Donna cover has a lot to do with the title or Wild Heart either.
I will give you Rock a Little, TISL and OSOTM kind of tie into the album title, but I don't think In Your Dreams does.
You can make your album cover right now!
Michele
Christopher
05-01-2014, 01:56 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t118/longdistancewinner/10299924_10151991971912133_8107380888242044963_n_zps0f720595.jpg
"15 songs down still working , all sounding great , classic Stevie Nicks"
kak125
05-01-2014, 01:58 PM
lol i posted this at the same time so i just deleted it. anyway this pic is so freaking awesome!!
Johnny Stew
05-01-2014, 02:00 PM
I just popped over to post the pic and comment, too. lol. This is so dang exciting!
"Fifteen songs down," and "still working".... still very likely she plans on saving some of these tracks for Fleetwood Mac to record.
Meanwhile, I'm loving that pic. She's such a kook.
BlueDenimLamp
05-01-2014, 02:08 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>15 songs down still working , all sounding great , classic Stevie Nicks <a href="http://t.co/O3RMCNUa4b">http://t.co/O3RMCNUa4b</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461940450782617600">May 1, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
He's definitely got Stevie on the right track theses days..."Classic Stevie Nicks" didn't Chris say she was working on some "Classic" sounding songs as well??? If some of these songs are for FM...
BlueDenimLamp
05-01-2014, 02:10 PM
lol i posted this at the same time so i just deleted it. anyway this pic is so freaking awesome!!
That looks like her "Spirit Hat"...There was something on twitter about it...
Christopher
05-01-2014, 02:14 PM
15 songs!!! :blob2: Well, that should shut up all the naysayers who've claimed Stevie had no material! I doubt that all these 15 songs were composed in under 2 weeks! Steve fans have known that she's been writing new stuff back in 2012.
I keep hoping that Dave releases a snippet ala "Everybody Loves You" when he did in Feb. 2010 to whet our appetite! So excited! Stevie you're a force!!
jkmaletic
05-01-2014, 02:19 PM
Nearly spit out my soda when I saw this pic. So great to see she is clearly having fun again.
[Memo to self: Wear furry ears to the next show.]
Danielle
05-01-2014, 02:21 PM
So ridiculously adorable! :p
BlueDenimLamp
05-01-2014, 02:23 PM
The only thing I can add at this point -- other than speculation -- is that I am so incredibly excited about all of this news. I was looking back at a 2010 thread when Dave first starting tweeting about his involvement with IYD, and there are so many parallels - except things seem to be moving much more quickly this time around. Can't wait to see what they put out. :]
Since you brought it up here's the OMG! Stevie Wrote A New Song With Dave (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=43192) thread from 2/27/2010...The start of "IYD"
GavinBrown
05-01-2014, 02:30 PM
Now it makes sense to me...she's working on solo stuff AS WELL AS mac stuff. I bet she will be popping over to the studio to join Chris and the boys VERY soon... :]
BlueLight
05-01-2014, 02:31 PM
Since you brought it up here's the OMG! Stevie Wrote A New Song With Dave (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=43192) thread from 2/27/2010...The start of "IYD"
Thanks for posting the link! I should've thought to do so. Exciting news all around!!
Today's picture of Stevie is just too adorable.
BlueDenimLamp
05-01-2014, 02:35 PM
Thanks for posting the link! I should've thought to do so. Exciting news all around!!
Today's picture of Stevie is just too adorable.
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/10299924_10151991971912133_8107380888242044963_n_zps9e12d812.jpg
You just know Lindsey's thinking "Why can't I get along like that with Stevie in the studio"
michelej1
05-01-2014, 02:39 PM
15 songs is a lot. 12 for an album and maybe 2 bonus ones and then extras.
There haven't been any pictures of Lori and Sharon yet.
Michele
Macfanforever
05-01-2014, 03:07 PM
Holy cats said the kitty.Thats awesome.Thats what FM got to do in the studio.
15 songs!!! :blob2: Well, that should shut up all the naysayers who've claimed Stevie had no material! I doubt that all these 15 songs were composed in under 2 weeks! Steve fans have known that she's been writing new stuff back in 2012.
i think i hear my name being called :lol::wavey:?
Dave lately always makes the whole album worth of songs from scratch in Nashville with his wrecking crew, in 1-2 weeks.
so........ let's see how many of these 15 songs are co-writes before deciding to shut up naysayers. :p :xoxo: :angel: if they are all written by SN only, then yes, i will gladly agree with you.
and if they do have that many songs i agree with Stew they probably do plan some for FM.
ok, since pics of Linds and Chris started popping up in the media at the same time, i'll leave you all alone to enjoy here since i have my own little FM corner where i can be very happy too. :)
BlueDenimLamp
05-01-2014, 03:10 PM
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/spirithat_zps7ae48af4.jpg
She's wearing her "Spirit Hat"...I knew I had seen a picture of her wearing it before...
BombaySapphire3
05-01-2014, 03:18 PM
Wow since they are moving so quickly I'm hoping for a more raw sound than IYD, not that I don't love that one as well.
BlueDenimLamp
05-01-2014, 03:30 PM
and if they do have that many songs i agree with Stew they probably do plan some for FM.
I'm sure Stevie will bring Dave and her "Spirit Hat" with her when she works on her FM songs with LB...She has to come back to L.A. to collect her "ICON" award...
BMI ICON AWARD (http://www.bmi.com/news/entry/stevie_nicks_to_be_honored_as_bmi_icon)
ok, since pics of Linds and Chris started popping up in the media at the same time, i'll leave you all alone to enjoy here since i have my own little FM corner where i can be very happy too. :)
Don't worry I posted pictures in your sandbox...
AnthonyMI
05-01-2014, 03:36 PM
OMG.
New star wars movie cast announced... New stevie album news leaked, picture of PROOF that Christine is in the studio.... my heart can not take much more.
nevedix20
05-01-2014, 03:43 PM
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/spirithat_zps7ae48af4.jpg
She's wearing her "Spirit Hat"...I knew I had seen a picture of her wearing it before...
Where did that quote/picture come from? How could I have missed that one!! LOL she is cute as a button
Richard B
05-01-2014, 03:48 PM
Love the pic.
Oh and in case anyone doesn't know...."Spirit Hats" is a real fashion company actually called Spirit Hoods (https://www.spirithoods.com). I remember this from late 2012/early 2013 it was a big thing for a moment in LA.
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/spirithat_zps7ae48af4.jpg
She's wearing her "Spirit Hat"...I knew I had seen a picture of her wearing it before...
Haha! Stevie took a selfie.
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/10299924_10151991971912133_8107380888242044963_n_zps9e12d812.jpg
You just know Lindsey's thinking "Why can't I get along like that with Stevie in the studio"
He's probably super jealous of her Spirit hat too.
Jondalar
05-01-2014, 03:57 PM
I thought she was showing her support for the gay bear scene.
secondhandchain
05-01-2014, 06:25 PM
I don't know I"m still kind of pissed of at Stevie. ALl these years yearning away for Christine and then what does she do? Give her best songs (you know that's going to happen) to her solo album. If she wants to record with them at all.
BombaySapphire3
05-01-2014, 06:32 PM
I don't know I"m still kind of pissed of at Stevie. ALl these years yearning away for Christine and then what does she do? Give her best songs (you know that's going to happen) to her solo album. If she wants to record with them at all.
She has been doing this since she went solo..why change now:shrug:
Christopher
05-01-2014, 07:03 PM
I don't know I"m still kind of pissed of at Stevie. ALl these years yearning away for Christine and then what does she do? Give her best songs (you know that's going to happen) to her solo album. If she wants to record with them at all.
History suggests that your assertion isn't true at all. Stevie pulled songs from her solo sessions for FM on "Mirage" ("Gypsy") and SYW ("Thrown Down", "Everybody Finds Out".)
And on Tango, FM had their pick of "Joan Of Arc" and "Juliet" and opted for WISYA and WTTRS :shrug: :cool:
BombaySapphire3
05-01-2014, 07:35 PM
History suggests that your assertion isn't true at all. Stevie pulled songs from her solo sessions for FM on "Mirage" ("Gypsy") and SYW ("Thrown Down", "Everybody Finds Out".)
And on Tango, FM had their pick of "Joan Of Arc" and "Juliet" and opted for WISYA and WTTRS :shrug: :cool:
Ok so how did Edge of Seventeen one of the most spectacular rock songs ever written by a woman and Rooms on Fire one of the her best self penned singles end up on solo records....meanwhile on Tango she forced the band to make do with a single written by someone else?:shrug:
BlueDenimLamp
05-01-2014, 07:59 PM
Ok so how did Edge of Seventeen one of the most spectacular rock songs ever written by a woman and Rooms on Fire one of the her best self penned singles end up on solo records....meanwhile on Tango she forced the band to make do with a single written by someone else?:shrug:
Why??? Because FM has been afraid to record anything that leads them to far from the "Classic Rumours or FM sound"...Listen to "Sable On Blond" (Mick played drums on that song) it could have easily been a Fleetwood Mac song...Stevie also had a lot of extra songs in the '80's FM probably could have recorded ...Blue lamp...Sleeping Angel...Violet And Blue...Battle Of The Dragon...Gold And Braid just to name a few...If they had only dared to step a little bit out side the box...
Bandon
05-01-2014, 09:22 PM
Quick recording. I hope it's not fast food quality.
Originally posted by BlueDenimLamp:
Has Stevie Nicks been working on a new album?
While representatives are keeping tight-lipped, reports have been circulating on the Internet. There have been strong rumors that the singer is finally returning to the recording studio working on a what might be a back-to-roots album.
According to a source, rumors of Stevie Nicks (from Fleetwood Mac) working in recording studio are true, with as many as eight songs having been put to tape. “It’s still in the early stages,” “She’s got security on the doors to ensure no-one hears a whisper,” a source said.
Stevie Nicks is rumoured to be planning a worldwide tour at the end of 2015. When contacted, a representative had no information on a new album, or any of the singer’s future plans. This isn’t the first time in recent memory reports have surfaced about Stevie Nicks recording sessions. Fans will be anxiously awaiting...
Now that we have Dave's tweet about 15 songs 'n' all, this might seem irrelevant, but I should point out that the above information is most likely bogus. If you type any artist's name in Google, enquiring about a new album, the exact information comes up about a "back-to-roots album", "security on the doors" and "a worldwide tour". I am confident that these particular details have not emanated from those involved in the Nashville recording sessions.
PS Michele, I've also wondered about whether Sharon and Lori have been present for these sessions, but suspect that their contributions might come later. It's great to think this album will be knocked out at full pelt and then released, but I suspect major tweaking/re-writing and (three-part) vocal harmonies will come into play further down the road.
MikeInNV
05-02-2014, 08:40 AM
Now that we have Dave's tweet about 15 songs 'n' all, this might seem irrelevant, but I should point out that the above information is most likely bogus. If you type any artist's name in Google, enquiring about a new album, the exact information comes up about a "back-to-roots album", "security on the doors" and "a worldwide tour". I am confident that these particular details have not emanated from those involved in the Nashville recording sessions.
PS Michele, I've also wondered about whether Sharon and Lori have been present for these sessions, but suspect that their contributions might come later. It's great to think this album will be knocked out at full pelt and then released, but I suspect major tweaking/re-writing and (three-part) vocal harmonies will come into play further down the road.
Yep. Someone found the exact same article with Madonna's name in place of Stevie's.
BombaySapphire3
05-02-2014, 10:21 AM
Quick recording. I hope it's not fast food quality.
With this one I have a feeling there isn't going to be any middle ground.IMO it will be really great or...an entire album of "Cheaper than Frees"
BlueLight
05-02-2014, 10:32 AM
With this one I have a feeling there isn't going to be any middle ground.IMO it will be really great or...an entire album of "Cheaper than Frees"
Let's hope the former!!
Now that we know there are 15 songs recorded and counting, I wonder how many of them will be vault songs? Has Stevie ever stated whether there are any vault songs she'd like to record and release? I'd love to get The Dealer, All The Beautiful Worlds (which I believe she recorded for SYW), If You Were My Love, and Julia.
TheWILDheart
05-02-2014, 10:47 AM
i think i hear my name being called :lol::wavey:?
Dave lately always makes the whole album worth of songs from scratch in Nashville with his wrecking crew, in 1-2 weeks.
so........ let's see how many of these 15 songs are co-writes before deciding to shut up naysayers. :p :xoxo: :angel: if they are all written by SN only, then yes, i will gladly agree with you.
and if they do have that many songs i agree with Stew they probably do plan some for FM.
ok, since pics of Linds and Chris started popping up in the media at the same time, i'll leave you all alone to enjoy here since i have my own little FM corner where i can be very happy too. :)
Most of Stevie's IYD tracks already existed as poems before Dave's involvement - "You May Be The One", "Wide Sargasso Sea" and "Italian Summer" we already know were poems pre-Dave. "For What It's Worth" could date back as far as 94/95, "Secret Spell" and "Moonlight" were old songs, "My Heart" was a TISL outtake, "In Your Dreams" was born out of a jam session in the studio.
The only songs that we know were absolutely written by Stevie and Dave co-writing together are "Cheaper Than Free" and "Everybody Loves You". The majority of Dave's work on the album was production and adding melody to already written poems.
There's absolutely no reason why Stevie couldn't have a bunch of new songs up her sleave or why she can't reach into the vaults for some demo's that never made an album. Most likely, the new album will be a combination of new songs with some old demo's thrown in, just like everything she's done since 1994 has been.
BlueLight
05-02-2014, 10:52 AM
Most of Stevie's IYD tracks already existed as poems before Dave's involvement - "You May Be The One", "Wide Sargasso Sea" and "Italian Summer" we already know were poems pre-Dave. "For What It's Worth" could date back as far as 94/95, "Secret Spell" and "Moonlight" were old songs, "My Heart" was a TISL outtake, "In Your Dreams" was born out of a jam session in the studio.
The only songs that we know were absolutely written by Stevie and Dave co-writing together are "Cheaper Than Free" and "Everybody Loves You". The majority of Dave's work on the album was production and adding melody to already written poems.
There's absolutely no reason why Stevie couldn't have a bunch of new songs up her sleave or why she can't reach into the vaults for some demo's that never made an album. Most likely, the new album will be a combination of new songs with some old demo's thrown in, just like everything she's done since 1994 has been.
I think Stevie wrote FWIW in 2009/2010, while she was in Hawaii with Lori and her niece.
TheWILDheart
05-02-2014, 11:03 AM
I think Stevie wrote FWIW in 2009/2010, while she was in Hawaii with Lori and her niece.
I was going by the fact that it's about Russ on the Street Angel tour, but you're possibly right.
Edit: Yes, because there's footage of it being written in the hotel room on the IYD doc
Looking at the writing credits on IYD, Stevie wrote the lyrics to everything. Dave is credited with a co-writing credit for writing or co-writing the music on "In Your Dreams", "Wide Sargasso Sea", "Moonlight" (chorus only), "Everybody Loves You", "Ghosts Are Gone", "You May Be The One", "Italian Summer" and "Cheaper Than Free".
That means that 8 out of the 13 tracks (14 if you include "My Heart") were created during or specifically for IYD.
We already know that WSS, Moonlight, You May Be The One and Italian Summer were already written as poems before Dave's involvement. Everybody Loves You was a 4 line chorus that Stevie wrote verses to accompany. IYD came out of Jam session and was very much a group effort.
Sorry, but I fail to see how Elle could possibly have any point when making a claim like "Stevie doesn't have any songs" since well over half her last album was already done by the time Dave Stewart touched it, and the majority of her songs on the last Fleetwood Mac album were new. She may be older and have slowed down the amount that she writes, but that hardly means she has nothing.
BlueDenimLamp
05-02-2014, 11:04 AM
I think Stevie wrote FWIW in 2009/2010, while she was in Hawaii with Lori and her niece.
May 27 2010 from the "IYD" DVD...
BlueLight
05-02-2014, 11:11 AM
May 27 2010 from the "IYD" DVD...
YES! I was struggling with where I got that bit of info! :p
BlueLight
05-02-2014, 11:13 AM
I was going by the fact that it's about Russ on the Street Angel tour, but you're possibly right.
Edit: Yes, because there's footage of it being written in the hotel room on the IYD doc
Looking at the writing credits on IYD, Stevie wrote the lyrics to everything. Dave is credited with a co-writing credit for writing or co-writing the music on "In Your Dreams", "Wide Sargasso Sea", "Moonlight" (chorus only), "Everybody Loves You", "Ghosts Are Gone", "You May Be The One", "Italian Summer" and "Cheaper Than Free".
That means that 8 out of the 13 tracks (14 if you include "My Heart") were created during or specifically for IYD.
We already know that WSS, Moonlight, You May Be The One and Italian Summer were already written as poems before Dave's involvement. Everybody Loves You was a 4 line chorus that Stevie wrote verses to accompany. IYD came out of Jam session and was very much a group effort.
Sorry, but I fail to see how Elle could possibly have any point when making a claim like "Stevie doesn't have any songs" since well over half her last album was already done by the time Dave Stewart touched it, and the majority of her songs on the last Fleetwood Mac album were new. She may be older and have slowed down the amount that she writes, but that hardly means she has nothing.
Agreed - IYD (and to a similar extent, TISL), was such a refreshing return to form, particularly given that Stevie basically had nothing new to bring to the table for SA.
BlueDenimLamp
05-02-2014, 11:19 AM
I was going by the fact that it's about Russ on the Street Angel tour, but you're possibly right.
Edit: Yes, because there's footage of it being written in the hotel room on the IYD doc
Looking at the writing credits on IYD, Stevie wrote the lyrics to everything. Dave is credited with a co-writing credit for writing or co-writing the music on "In Your Dreams", "Wide Sargasso Sea", "Moonlight" (chorus only), "Everybody Loves You", "Ghosts Are Gone", "You May Be The One", "Italian Summer" and "Cheaper Than Free".
That means that 8 out of the 13 tracks (14 if you include "My Heart") were created during or specifically for IYD.
We already know that WSS, Moonlight, You May Be The One and Italian Summer were already written as poems before Dave's involvement. Everybody Loves You was a 4 line chorus that Stevie wrote verses to accompany. IYD came out of Jam session and was very much a group effort.
Sorry, but I fail to see how Elle could possibly have any point when making a claim like "Stevie doesn't have any songs" since well over half her last album was already done by the time Dave Stewart touched it, and the majority of her songs on the last Fleetwood Mac album were new. She may be older and have slowed down the amount that she writes, but that hardly means she has nothing.
It's been four years since she started recording "IYD" so if she only wrote 1 song every 2 or 3 months she could easily have 15 or 20 new songs written...Personally I think she worked on getting some really polished demos ready before she went to Nashville...If any of these songs are intended for FM I think Dave will handle the production with LB having minimal impact...
TheWILDheart
05-02-2014, 11:22 AM
Agreed - IYD (and to a similar extent, TISL), was such a refreshing return to form, particularly given that Stevie basically had nothing new to bring to the table for SA.
I still love "Street Angel" though. Mostly.
It's been four years since she started recording "IYD"
Don't ever say that again. Where the hell does the time go? It'll be 3 years in June I got to meet the great lady Nicks in person :(
bombaysaffires
05-02-2014, 11:24 AM
i think i hear my name being called :lol::wavey:?
Dave lately always makes the whole album worth of songs from scratch in Nashville with his wrecking crew, in 1-2 weeks.
so........ let's see how many of these 15 songs are co-writes before deciding to shut up naysayers. :p :xoxo: :angel: if they are all written by SN only, then yes, i will gladly agree with you.
and if they do have that many songs i agree with Stew they probably do plan some for FM.
ok, since pics of Linds and Chris started popping up in the media at the same time, i'll leave you all alone to enjoy here since i have my own little FM corner where i can be very happy too. :)
i'm curious why the songs have to be written by Stevie only, no co-writes? Christine is co-writing a block of songs with Lindsey, which is no different to Stevie working with Dave.:shrug:
TheWILDheart
05-02-2014, 11:26 AM
i'm curious why the songs have to be written by Stevie only, no co-writes? Christine is co-writing a block of songs with Lindsey, which is no different to Stevie working with Dave.:shrug:
Christine's co-writes were some of the greatest songs she ever recorded and "Hold Me" is a brilliant example of Christine/Lindsey co-write.
Stevie writing songs for a FM album with Dave is only like Chris writing songs with Eddy for Tango
Christopher
05-02-2014, 11:31 AM
Ok so how did Edge of Seventeen one of the most spectacular rock songs ever written by a woman and Rooms on Fire one of the her best self penned singles end up on solo records....meanwhile on Tango she forced the band to make do with a single written by someone else?:shrug:
First of all, If, and that's a big IF, FM had recorded "Edge Of Seventeen", there is no way they would have allowed the song to have a running time of 5:28, they would've butchered her verses and the song wouldn't be as epic as it is. Secondly, it most definitely wouldn't have been as rockin' & awesome as it was on "Bella Donna", considering the light pop (50-era inspired) production of "Mirage".:cool: Also, EO17 is perfection as it is, I don't think Lindsey would have known what to do with that song, or improved upon it.
And I'm sure you know this, but "Rooms On Fire" was written after TITN was in the can.
Most of Stevie's IYD tracks already existed as poems before Dave's involvement - "You May Be The One", "Wide Sargasso Sea" and "Italian Summer" we already know were poems pre-Dave. "For What It's Worth" could date back as far as 94/95, "Secret Spell" and "Moonlight" were old songs, "My Heart" was a TISL outtake, "In Your Dreams" was born out of a jam session in the studio.
The only songs that we know were absolutely written by Stevie and Dave co-writing together are "Cheaper Than Free" and "Everybody Loves You". The majority of Dave's work on the album was production and adding melody to already written poems.
There seems to be this assumption that Dave came up with all the melodies on their IYD collaborations. Yes, he certainly lead her by launching into chord progressions, but she sang along, as she has said in a sing song-y (melodic) way, based on what he was playing. If you watch the IYD doc, while they are writing "You May Be the One", Stevie is singing her poem floating a melody (which is very similar) to what ended up being the melody of the final song. Remember Dave is credited with music, Stevie with lyrics, somewhere in between they both contributed to melody & probably Stevie shaped that more often than Dave, jsut by the simple fact these were her lyrics/poems that had to fit within the meter of what he was playing. It's ludicurious to believe it's black and white. Songwriting, like any other art is not black and white.
BlueDenimLamp
05-02-2014, 11:42 AM
FM has given an interview and they more or less ignore Stevie other than to say "She's busy attending to other commitments ...
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-cm-fleetwood-mac-20140502,0,3614909.story#axzz30ZI8kEQL
The band further says "Following this round of recording, the album will be shelved while they gear up for the new tour, which opens Sept. 30 "
So it looks like FM is stirring the pot, trying to generate more drama directed at Stevie just like Mick did when Stevie started with "IYD"
Now that FM is doing interviews I suspect it won't be long before Stevie does the same...
Christopher
05-02-2014, 11:45 AM
i'm curious why the songs have to be written by Stevie only, no co-writes? Christine is co-writing a block of songs with Lindsey, which is no different to Stevie working with Dave.:shrug:
I agree. Stevie has written hundreds of songs by herself (just look up her copyright submissions) So if she chooses to co-write, and the end result is fantatic, even better. It shows her willingness to not let her ego get in the way of potentially tapping into new fresh musical ideas and coming out with potentially a better end result. Christine has co-written for decades, and appears as she is doing it in overdrive with Lindsey now. I don't see co-writing as a weakness at all.
BlueDenimLamp
05-02-2014, 12:20 PM
I agree. Stevie has written hundreds of songs by herself (just look up her copyright submissions) So if she chooses to co-write, and the end result is fantatic, even better. It shows her willingness to not let her ego get in the way of potentially tapping into new fresh musical ideas and coming out with potentially a better end result. Christine has co-written for decades, and appears as she is doing it in overdrive with Lindsey now. I don't see co-writing as a weakness at all.
Exactly ...Does anyone mock Elton John because someone else writes all his lyrics???
michelej1
05-02-2014, 12:29 PM
Christine's co-writes were some of the greatest songs she ever recorded and "Hold Me" is a brilliant example of Christine/Lindsey co-write.
They didn't co-write Hold Me.
michelej1
05-02-2014, 12:36 PM
Exactly ...Does anyone mock Elton John because someone else writes all his lyrics???
So we enter the "You wouldn't say that to Elton John" era.
Stevie has co-written quite a lot with others in the past, although maybe not as much on one album as she did on IYD. Co-writing is not bad. The only question is whether it changes the nature of the songs she became famous for. It is common for others to co-write, but is there something happening that is a shift for Stevie?
In a sense, I think No Spoken Word sounds like more of a "Stevie" song than some of them on IYD. But I like all of the IYD songs except for Cheaper Than Free, New Orleans and the title track. So, I have no problem with her co-writing with Dave, although a song like Everybody Loves You is a little more straightforward than I'm accustomed to for her, lyric wise. The same was true of Say You Will (the single) though, which I always thought of as being linear for Stevie, but she did that on purpose, to fill in for Christine.
I think it's not good to sound too much like Christine, lyric-wise, on her own albums.
Michele
Christopher
05-02-2014, 12:39 PM
They didn't co-write Hold Me.
Christine co-wrote "Hold Me" with Robbie Patton. Stevie fans may recall him from "Smiling Islands" - which sounds like a typical early 80's soundtrack "Tootsie" type song, until Stevie begins singing, bellowing her part towards the end and it becomes a totally different song! ;):laugh:
bombaysaffires
05-02-2014, 12:43 PM
Christine co-wrote "Hold Me" with Robbie Patton. Stevie fans may recall him from "Smiling Islands" - which sounds like a typical early 80's soundtrack "Tootsie" type song, until Stevie begins singing, bellowing her part towards the end and it becomes a totally different song! ;):laugh:
you mean the part where she showed him how it should be sung?;)
BlueDenimLamp
05-02-2014, 12:57 PM
So we enter the "You wouldn't say that to Elton John" era.
Michele
I was going to put that in there, but I knew what would happen...
Hawkeye
05-02-2014, 01:36 PM
15 songs!!! Awesome. So I think they can stop now? Why are they still going. Pick the 11 that go best together. Not the 11 best necessarily so the 4 left off aren't "leftovers" but just a better fit for fleetwood macs album. Take those 11 and release the solo album and ship those other 4 to fleetwood Mac. They'll obviously have to re record them, because the players on fleetwood Mac songs HAVE to be mick John Chris and Lindsey.
This whole situation has to be the weirdest mix of crazy amounts of joy and confusion and just what the f**kness any of us have ever had to witness.
BlueDenimLamp
05-02-2014, 01:56 PM
15 songs!!! Awesome. So I think they can stop now? Why are they still going. Pick the 11 that go best together. Not the 11 best necessarily so the 4 left off aren't "leftovers" but just a better fit for fleetwood macs album. Take those 11 and release the solo album and ship those other 4 to fleetwood Mac. They'll obviously have to re record them, because the players on fleetwood Mac songs HAVE to be mick John Chris and Lindsey.
This whole situation has to be the weirdest mix of crazy amounts of joy and confusion and just what the f**kness any of us have ever had to witness.
THINK AGAIN...
The current sentiment in the "Rumours Sandbox" is that the other 4 especially LB should have nothing to do with any of Stevie's FM songs...
michelej1
05-02-2014, 02:04 PM
THINK AGAIN...
The current sentiment in the "Rumours Sandbox" is that the other 4 especially LB should have nothing to do with any of Stevie's FM songs...
No one said anything about Mick and John not being on those songs. For one thing, Mick would probably play drums on one of Stevie's solo tunes, so of course he'll play on anything she submits to FM. For another, we know how John is about that and no one is going to insult him at this point in time.
Michele
Hawkeye
05-02-2014, 02:06 PM
^^^^^^^^really? I'm sure even Stevie understands that she can't put her songs on a fleetwood Mac album without at the bare minimum mick on Dums and John on bass.
michelej1
05-02-2014, 02:12 PM
^^^^^^^^really? I'm sure even Stevie understands that she can't put her songs on a fleetwood Mac album without at the bare minimum mick on Dums and John on bass.
She wouldn't even want to.
Michele
Christopher
05-02-2014, 02:16 PM
THINK AGAIN...
The current sentiment in the "Rumours Sandbox" is that the other 4 especially LB should have nothing to do with any of Stevie's FM songs...
Which is asinine! :rolleyes: That is mainly the anti-Stevie fringe talking over there (not surprising, at all!) Meanwhile they totally choose to be ignorant of their own poll results (majority favoring Stevie) about whether to wait for Stevie, or release the album as a foursome without her. Currently standing at 70% in favor of waiting for Stevie, to almost 30% saying release it now without her. It's worth mentioning that these results are without the majority of Stevie fan members even voting, because they have grown disgusted with The Ledge and it's negativity, and refuse to come or post on this board anymore. :nod: Not that sales matter anymore, but this is consistent with Stevie bringing FM 2/3rds of their audience.
SYW just sold @1/3rd more than TISL.
IYD sold 500K worldwide (200K just in the US.) So I would expect a non-Stevie FM record to sell @66K. And a FM record including Stevie to sell @300K (in the U.S). :nod:
Oh yeah, what were Lindsey's sales for his last 3 solo records :o :distress:
sorcerer999
05-02-2014, 02:17 PM
I really don't understand why people are getting pissed off at Stevie for working on a solo record at the moment instead of immediately going in to record with Fleetwood Mac. For all we know, she and Dave could have planned on doing this long before Christine's announcement to rejoin the band.
This is nothing new with her. Nothing has changed. The band has accepted this fact ever since her solo career started in '81. They waited for her during "Mirage". They waited for her during "Tango". And of course the guys recorded for many many months before she came in for "SYW".
Can't we all just be happy we're getting new albums from both FM and solo Stevie? Not to mention a GRAND reunion tour from "The Five"?
Technology and society has progressed to an age of "we want it RIGHT NOW!" How about we let Lindsey, Christine, Mick, John, Stevie (and of course Dave) do their own thing, at their own pace, and in their own time. The quality will hopefully turn out better, in my opinion. We're definitely getting all three of these things, so let's just be patient, happy and grateful that this is even happening in the first place, shall we?
michelej1
05-02-2014, 02:31 PM
Not that sales matter anymore, but this is consistent with Stevie bringing FM 2/3rds of their audience.
Stevie solo doesn't make in concert 2/3 of what Fleetwood Mac makes in concert. I wouldn't say that she brings 2/3 of the Fleetwood Mac audience.
As for the people who don't post here anymore, I don't know why some who are here stay or return to see if things have changed. They haven't changed and they won't change. Many people tell me that they heard how bad it was on this board online. And I think, wow if you're on Facebook and you're happy over there posting in a positive atmosphere and you've heard how negative this board is, then believe the rumours and don't come and see for yourself. It's all true. Don't leave the Garden of Eden to explore Castle Rock.
Michele
BombaySapphire3
05-02-2014, 02:48 PM
This is nothing new with her. Nothing has changed. The band has accepted this fact ever since her solo career started in '81. They waited for her during "Mirage". They waited for her during "Tango". And of course the guys recorded for many many months before she came in for "SYW".
There is one potential change and if it comes to pass it is a significant one.Never before has she had her solo producer produce her songs for a Fleetwood Mac album.If that happens it would be unprecedented .
sorcerer999
05-02-2014, 02:55 PM
There is one potential change and if it comes to pass it is a significant one.Never before has she had her solo producer produce her songs for a Fleetwood Mac album.If that happens it would be unprecedented .
That would be unprecedented, yes. But we don't know if that's the case. All we know is that he's working on a solo project with her.
I would think if there are any songs lifted from those sessions to be included in the new mac record, they would use them as a template and re-record them a la the TISL version of "Thrown Down" versus the "SYW" version.
Just a guess, though. Who knows? Dave could very well become involved in this new FM project. :shrug:
Never before has she had her solo producer produce her songs for a Fleetwood Mac album.If that happens it would be unprecedented .[/QUOTE]
Yes but very much expected and I think Lindsey is OK with it.
BlueDenimLamp
05-02-2014, 03:03 PM
There is one potential change and if it comes to pass it is a significant one. Never before has she had her solo producer produce her songs for a Fleetwood Mac album.If that happens it would be unprecedented .
This needs to happen...Personally I don't think Stevie's recent FM songs have benefitted greatly from LB's production...
BlueDenimLamp
05-02-2014, 03:06 PM
That would be unprecedented, yes. But we don't know if that's the case. All we know is that he's working on a solo project with her.
I would think if there are any songs lifted from those sessions to be included in the new mac record, they would use them as a template and re-record them a la the TISL version of "Thrown Down" versus the "SYW" version.
Just a guess, though. Who knows? Dave could very well become involved in this new FM project. :shrug:
Don't worry Dave & Stevie will at the very least be co-producing her FM songs...
Christopher
05-02-2014, 03:16 PM
As for the people who don't post here anymore, I don't know why some who are here stay or return to see if things have changed. They haven't changed and they won't change. Many people tell me that they heard how bad it was on this board online. And I think, wow if you're on Facebook and you're happy over there posting in a positive atmosphere and you've heard how negative this board is, then believe the rumours and don't come and see for yourself. It's all true. Don't leave the Garden of Eden to explore Castle Rock.
Michele
Tsk, tsk, someone sounds very defensive. :laugh::shrug:
Christopher
05-02-2014, 03:19 PM
Don't worry Dave & Stevie will at the very least be co-producing her FM songs...
Stevie was co-produced by John Shanks on one SYW track. I forget which one. So it has happened. Also, it was written recently that Jimmy Iovine went into the studio during the "Mirage" sessions to give his feedback on Stevie's tracks on her behalf.
I definitely forsee that Dave will be co-producing (at a minimum) Stevie's FM songs.
michelej1
05-02-2014, 03:29 PM
Tsk, tsk, someone sounds very defensive. :laugh::shrug:
I'm not defensive. I don't see anything to defend. I just don't have the patience for the complaints. Everyone needs to share their fandom in a place that is most suited for their own particular tastes and The Ledge is not that place.
Michele
Jondalar
05-02-2014, 03:30 PM
This needs to happen...Personally I don't think Stevie's recent FM songs have benefitted greatly from LB's production...
Well it wasn't as if she presented him with the best material .
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