Stevie Recording A New Album With Dave Stewart Producing In Nashville...

[BombaySapphire3]

Stevie was co-produced by John Shanks on one SYW track. I forget which one. So it has happened.

I think Shanks actually coproduced "What's the World Coming to" so not a Stevie song..Had not heard of him working specifically on any of her SYW tracks.:shrug:

[BlueDenimLamp]

Well it wasn't as if she presented him with the best material .

You don't bring Caviar to a country picnic...Or in this case "Mac" Donalds...

[Jondalar]

You don't bring Caviar to a country picnic...Or in this case "Mac" Donalds...

Lindsey brought the Cavier. Stevie brought the green apple splatters.

[sorcerer999]

Everyone needs to share their fandom in a place that is most suited for their own particular tastes and The Ledge is not that place.


Huh??? Then what is The Ledge for, if you don't mind my asking? I personally thought it was a place that I could share and express my opinions, experiences, stories and nerd boy "fandom" about Fleetwood Mac and Stevie. That's why I joined in the first place.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Lindsey brought the Cavier. Stevie brought the green apple splatters.

If her songs are so bad why have they spent 11 years trying to get her to record with them???

[michelej1]

Huh??? Then what is The Ledge for, if you don't mind my asking? I personally thought it was a place that I could share and express my opinions, experiences, stories and nerd boy "fandom" about Fleetwood Mac and Stevie. That's why I joined in the first place.

If you like the atmosphere, it's for you. If you find the attitude offensive, then it's not for you. But it's certainly possible that it's not the place you thought or hoped it would be.

If you're on Facebook with people who feel like you do and share most of your opinions and you hear that The Ledge is a downer and taints any enthusiasm you feel for the band, then the opinions of the people you like on the matter are probably something you will agree with, so there's no need to come here and get irritated.

If you were irritated a few years ago and left and just came back to see if things were still bad, they are still the same. So, you should be with people who share in your feelings for the band and multiply that positive vibe and don't bring it down.

That's what I did. I came here in 2003 and didn't like it and didn't come back until I could make it a place that I did like. The things that made the Ledge it's most popular aren't here today and they are the things that I personally did NOT like about it. That's why I didn't hang around here then. But what's true now that wasn't true then is that there are so many more social media outlets that allow people to identify the groups they like best and to converse with those people, while avoiding those they don't like.

That's what everyone should do. We have choices now that we didn't have years ago.

Michele

[Christopher]

I'm not defensive. I don't see anything to defend. I just don't have the patience for the complaints. Everyone needs to share their fandom in a place that is most suited for their own particular tastes and The Ledge is not that place.
Michele
I wasn't complaining. I simply noted that many former members are noticeably absent due to hostility towards their favorite FM member, and still the overwhelming majority favor FM waiting for Stevie to release any record in that FM "Rumours" poll. Maybe you need to re-read my post:cool:. I'd understand if you were just a tad defensive since, after all, it is your board. :shrug:

Not that I need to defend myself, however I am a fan of every member of FM (Rumours era), have all of their individual solo albums. Nevertheless, Stevie is most definitely my favorite artist of this band, and even I have been critical of her on occasion. :cool:

[Christopher]

Well it wasn't as if she presented him with the best material .

She handed the band "Juliet" & "Joan Of Arc", in addition to the others on Tango.

In my opinion, Lindsey did not do anything magnificent or unique with "Twisted" - which is a great composition. It was middle of the road production. Nice & pleasant - kinda like his "EP" material.

Not to mention she handed over the motherload on the SYW project??

So something sure changed?!? :shrug:

[vivfox]

If you like the atmosphere, it's for you. If you find the attitude offensive, then it's not for you. But it's certainly possible that it's not the place you thought or hoped it would be.

If you're on Facebook with people who feel like you do and share most of your opinions and you hear that The Ledge is a downer and taints any enthusiasm you feel for the band, then the opinions of the people you like on the matter are probably something you will agree with, so there's no need to come here and get irritated.

What I love about The Ledge is that our members are allowed to be honest. We don't have to kiss anyone's a$$. No member of FM needs any one of us to defend them. I LOVE The Ledge exactly how it is now and LOVE Michele's sense of humor that didn't seem to surface until a couple of years ago. And I love her bluntness. I love her confidence when she says to people, if you don't like this site the way it is, then leave.

[Hawkeye]

History suggests that your assertion isn't true at all. Stevie pulled songs from her solo sessions for FM on "Mirage" ("Gypsy") and SYW ("Thrown Down", "Everybody Finds Out".)
And on Tango, FM had their pick of "Joan Of Arc" and "Juliet" and opted for WISYA and WTTRS :shrug: :cool:


EXCELLENT points especially on the fact they were offered Joan of arc and went with wasamattababy instead :shrug:

And Stevie's mirage songs are some of her best material. That's alright is FAR better then after the glitter fades, the comparable country song from Bella Donna. straight back is awesome. Basically a shorter sisters of the moon. And gypsy is well gypsy. All fit the flow and feel of mirage.

[Jondalar]

She handed the band "Juliet" & "Joan Of Arc", in addition to the others on Tango.

In my opinion, Lindsey did not do anything magnificent or unique with "Twisted" - which is a great composition. It was middle of the road production. Nice & pleasant - kinda like his "EP" material.

Not to mention she handed over the motherload on the SYW project??

So something sure changed?!? :shrug:

Twisted is best in demo form.

Lindsey's songs were far superior than Stevie's on SYW. Some of them like ilume and Thrown Down were ruined by bad lyrics. Lindsey did a great job with Smile at You...

Joan of Arc - gross. You proved my point.

[michelej1]

I wasn't complaining. I simply noted that many former members are noticeably absent due to hostility towards their favorite FM member, and still the overwhelming majority favor FM waiting for Stevie to release any record in that FM "Rumours" poll. Maybe you need to re-read my post:cool:. I'd understand if you were just a tad defensive since, after all, it is your board. :shrug:



I know what your post said. I'm not defensive. My position is simply that The Ledge is not the place to talk about how bad the Ledge is. A comment that not all Stevie fans voted in the poll, period, would have been innocuous. The comment that you made wasn't.

As for people not liking the hostility towards their favorite band member, there are plenty of Lindsey fans who don't like the forum either. They stay away. Are there as many Lindsey fans staying away as there are Stevie fans? No, because Stevie has more fans. But fans on both sides feel spurned and insulted, certainly.

Michele

[michelej1]

LOVE Michele's sense of humor that didn't seem to surface until a couple of years ago.

Well, that's not true!

Michele

[Hawkeye]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^joan of arc is an awesome song! Don't know if I want her to do it now tho. It was a perfect fit for tango and now I feel it should just live in demo land for us die hards.

And about SYW, stevie and Lindsey both contributed great songs. My #1 is from Lindsey then the rest of the top 5 are Stevie's songs for me then Lindsey takes the rest of the higher middle songs and Stevie gives probably the 3 worst. So I feel she gives the highs and the lows of the album. Lindsey gives the highest high and the good but no bad. And like Stevie what I just said probably only makes sense to me.

[nicole21290]

As for people not liking the hostility towards their favorite band member, there are plenty of Lindsey fans who don't like the forum either. They stay away. Are there as many Lindsey fans staying away as there are Stevie fans? No, because Stevie has more fans. But fans on both sides feel spurned and insulted, certainly.

Michele

And if you like both of them equally (and together) you're even more lucky - you can get double doses of bitterness and insults on one day even, if you go to the right threads! One can't just always go 'elsewhere' (like Facebook). It's an entirely different structure and way of conversing and, to be honest, threads/topics such as forums enable suit me best. Tumblr is, for sure, more 'friendly' for my needs but doesn't have that structure in place that allows for reading and participating in conversation and argument. I guess one just ends up in a place where you weigh your pros and cons - I HATE some of the hypocritical, judgmental, assuming, bitter, insulting posts I've seen about both SnL, but I also LOVE some of the posts about them and I value one's right to speak freely. Even if it gets on my last nerve something proper a lot of the time...

[michelej1]

And if you like both of them equally (and together) you're even more lucky - you can get double doses of bitterness and insults on one day even, if you go to the right threads!

Well, that's certainly true for BN fans. I used to be a shipper myself as many of my old posts will attest and I am still fascinated by the SnL relationship, but the behavior of their fervent admirers have really spoiled the joy I used to take in the couple.

Michele

[Jondalar]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t118/longdistancewinner/10299924_10151991971912133_8107380888242044963_n_zps0f720595.jpg
"15 songs down still working , all sounding great , classic Stevie Nicks"

Is this real fur? :(

[louielouie2000]

Is this real fur? :(

She seems to have a combination of both real & fake fur in her clothing & home decor. That definitely looks like real fur. If the hat was a gift, you can't blame her for it, though.

However, she wore a fake fur coat & hat to Sundance last year:

http://cdn.hitfix.com/photos/2716364/stevie-nicks-sundance.jpg

[bombaysaffires]

Wow, either I'm checking in and reading a completely different forum or I've got pretty thick skin and a realistic approach to everyone in FM.

The band members are human. They have foibles. We know those foibles, we call them out, we bitch about them, engage in a fair bit of hand-wringing but ultimately, if we didn't care we wouldn't be here. At least that's how I see it.

Some people think Lindsey's foibles are endearing and Stevie's are annoying and vice versa and give full voice to both sets of opinions in the various threads. I don't see the problem.:shrug:

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[HelloMonster]

Is this real fur? :(

Nah, it's fake according to the spirithoods website. :o Thankfully.

[Gold Dust Woman]

A new Stevie album eh? As much as I like Ms Nicks I thought IYD was pure crap so I'm not looking forward to this. Would rather she got her arse in the studio with FM but whatever.

[Dex]

A new Stevie album eh? As much as I like Ms Nicks I thought IYD was pure crap so I'm not looking forward to this. Would rather she got her arse in the studio with FM but whatever.

"Pure" crap? Hm. Well the creative process looks to be quite different from what IYD was, if that gives you any hope. But I'm not sure there's any guarantee that a new FM studio album wouldn't be similarly awful. We just have to wait and hope for the best.

[Jondalar]

She seems to have a combination of both real & fake fur in her clothing & home decor. That definitely looks like real fur. If the hat was a gift, you can't blame her for it, though.

However, she wore a fake fur coat & hat to Sundance last year:

http://cdn.hitfix.com/photos/2716364/stevie-nicks-sundance.jpg

I hope she doesn't wear real fur. She should know better.

[wheart]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^joan of arc is an awesome song! Don't know if I want her to do it now tho. It was a perfect fit for tango and now I feel it should just live in demo land for us die hards.

And about SYW, stevie and Lindsey both contributed great songs. My #1 is from Lindsey then the rest of the top 5 are Stevie's songs for me then Lindsey takes the rest of the higher middle songs and Stevie gives probably the 3 worst. So I feel she gives the highs and the lows of the album. Lindsey gives the highest high and the good but no bad. And like Stevie what I just said probably only makes sense to me.

Agreed! I love Joan of Arc. I'd forgotten all about that song. Very haunting...at least the demo was.

As for The Ledge, I'm happy to be a member here. I do appreciate the vast array of opinions. Though I am a Stevie fan first and foremost, I don't take any criticism of her personally, like I once did. I'm probably the most critical person of her anyway! This board, for me, has been a great source of information and insight over the years! :D

[Dex]

The array of opinions on this forum is what keeps me coming back, and what makes a lot of other fan forums wear a bit thin for me. I've been a member of a Kate Bush forum where basically every post just sort of devolved into "Isn't Kate Bush awesome? She is AWESOME!" and that makes for a rather tedious discussion after a short while. Having people who live for Stevie Nicks adjacent to a bunch of people who couldn't really care less about her is a dynamic that works really nicely.

[Christopher]

Oh yeah, the diversity of opinions & observations (not complaining) is always interesting. :nod: :laugh:

[BlueDenimLamp]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>at the mixing desk with my great pal and producing partner Waddy Wachtel for Stevie Nicks new album <a href="http://t.co/Z64r4qflee">http://t.co/Z64r4qflee</a></p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/462627472430080000">May 3, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/10153843_10151995069367133_2840369028342273604_n_zps28821086.png

Notice the "Rhiannon" picture on the console...

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/rhpaintF_zps80c49c7c.gif

"Rhiannon was started at the onset of Robin's Leukemia~ last August~
she died last Tuesday~

She was originally finished for Patrick at the City of Hope~ he died while she was still in her grey stage~

I finished her in brilliance upon Robins death~ because Robin was brilliant~

May she be a patron of driving this disease away~ it cannot live this cancer~ amongst Rhiannon's bright colors~ she was a bright light girl~ and we will fight on white light"
~S. Nicks, 1982

I wonder if she has brought "Rhiannon" back as a way to send positive things John's way...

[jkmaletic]

!!!!

Best. NEWS. EVER!!

If I'm correct, "mixing" means they are finishing it up.
this thing will be out in no time! :blob2:

[sorcerer999]

I'm on cloud nine!

We were all excited four years ago when we heard about a new Stevie record, but opinions as of late on this new solo album are sketchy at best because of the supposed "Fleetwood Mac album hold up" but Dave and Waddy seem to be working quickly. This hasn't been the case with her work since the "Wild Heart" days so maybe this "back to basics" approach to recording an album will be a good thing...as opposed to spending years (and thousands of dollars) on overdubs, re-recording, and over production...I'm looking at you, "Rock A Little". :laugh:

[sorcerer999]

If I'm correct, "mixing" means they are finishing it up.


No. Mixing just means they're getting the right volume levels, resonance, reverb, etc for each individual track recorded.

MASTERING would mean that they're close to finishing up.

The difference between mixing and mastering used to confuse the hell out of me when I was a kid.

[mitzo]

For this to be a real return to form I hope the songs have lots of random interjected "well's", lots of shifts from "you" to "she" and "he," and that the album contain several long rambling musings about eg. Castles, and at least one incoherent weepy ballad. Seriously, that is what I would love!

[jkmaletic]

No. Mixing just means they're getting the right volume levels, resonance, reverb, etc for each individual track recorded.

MASTERING would mean that they're close to finishing up.

The difference between mixing and mastering used to confuse the hell out of me when I was a kid.

Ok.
Mastering usually is the next step though, right?

[sorcerer999]

Ok.
Mastering usually is the next step though, right?

Not necessarily the next step. They could still spend a lot of time tweaking, doing overdubs, harmonies, adding instrumentation, etc (which could possibly take place in L.A. and not Nashville).

However, mastering IS the FINAL step. It's the icing on the cake. It's basically a process of making the each song on an album sound consistent with one another as far as volume, crispness, and audibility.

Hope that helps. :)

[wheart]

No. Mixing just means they're getting the right volume levels, resonance, reverb, etc for each individual track recorded.

MASTERING would mean that they're close to finishing up.

The difference between mixing and mastering used to confuse the hell out of me when I was a kid.

But it is safe to assume that the tracks and vocals have all been recorded, right? they wouldn't start mixing if they was still recording to be done?

[pryderi]

This is an exciting time! Who would have thought they'd be in the studio simultaneously!

[sorcerer999]

But it is safe to assume that the tracks and vocals have all been recorded, right? they wouldn't start mixing if they was still recording to be done?

That also depends. A lot of singers like to record the music and mix it first before going in and putting a vocal track over it. A polished, mixed track can give the vocalist a reason to kick out a good vocal. More inspiring...more feeling. An example of this for Stevie is the making of Bella Donna on the Crystal Visions DVD. The instrumental for her "takes" on "After The Glitter Fades" sound like the final mixed product to me. Same with "Blue Lamp".

However there really isn't any reason she would be in Nashville UNLESS she was putting a vocal track on her songs, so I'm willing to bet they've done a little of both so far. Dave works fast, as we all know, and I'm sure he's been inspiring her.

[michelej1]

But it is safe to assume that the tracks and vocals have all been recorded, right? they wouldn't start mixing if they was still recording to be done?

But don't they do this on a track by track basis? Just because you are mixing one song, I don't think that means there are not others ahead of you.

Michele

[BlueLight]

I LOVE that they have Rhiannon on the mixing desk. I wonder if Stevie has finally chosen to release one of her "Rhiannon Songs"? :shrug:

[reebokandlace]

A new Stevie album eh? As much as I like Ms Nicks I thought IYD was pure crap so I'm not looking forward to this. Would rather she got her arse in the studio with FM but whatever.


I agree 100%....Dave Stewart should not be producing this next cd. She might as well be taking musical direction from her assistant Karen. IYD had a handful of old demos remastered and remixed which were cool, but the new stuff was pure Stewart crap. The guy is a darkness that hovers over her....she needs to clean house and surround herself with some new people.....maybe she should consider working with the crew from Lady Antebellum. ....anyone but that Stewart clown.

You guys keep applauding her as she goes down in flames. I love people who defend an empty space. She hasn't gone triple platinum in how long? Keep defending her poor choices...go on, defend it....I love who Stevie used to be...not who she has become. I blame Karen.

:distress:

[Jondalar]

I agree 100%....Dave Stewart should not be producing this next cd. She might as well be taking musical direction from her assistant Karen. IYD had a handful of old demos remastered and remixed which were cool, but the new stuff was pure Stewart crap. The guy is a darkness that hovers over her....she needs to clean house and surround herself with some new people.....maybe she should consider working with the crew from Lady Antebellum. ....anyone but that Stewart clown.

You guys keep applauding her as she goes down in flames. I love people who defend an empty space. She hasn't gone triple platinum in how long? Keep defending her poor choices...go on, defend it....I love who Stevie used to be...not who she has become. I blame Karen.

:distress:

Goes down in flames.... Huh....
With Street Angel Stevie was already cinders. She has slowly risen like a Phoenix, each project a little better than the last.
1. TISL was better than Street Angel.
2. Say You Will was better than TISL
3. IYD was better than Say You Will

If her work keeps following the trend, then this album should be excellent

[Hawkeye]

I agree 100%....Dave Stewart should not be producing this next cd. She might as well be taking musical direction from her assistant Karen. IYD had a handful of old demos remastered and remixed which were cool, but the new stuff was pure Stewart crap. The guy is a darkness that hovers over her....she needs to clean house and surround herself with some new people.....maybe she should consider working with the crew from Lady Antebellum. ....anyone but that Stewart clown.

You guys keep applauding her as she goes down in flames. I love people who defend an empty space. She hasn't gone triple platinum in how long? Keep defending her poor choices...go on, defend it....I love who Stevie used to be...not who she has become. I blame Karen.

:distress:


I'm sorry that you don't enjoy IYD, I really am, but your in a small minority of not liking the Stewart/Stevie callaborations. Hell, even people I consider to have some of the most critical ears love IYD (Louie and Chili for just 2 examples). So yea, the general concensous is not that of flames. And if even alf of this new album is good to great Stewart deserves a noble prize forgetting it made so quickly.

[MikeVielhaber]

You guys keep applauding her as she goes down in flames. I love people who defend an empty space. She hasn't gone triple platinum in how long? Keep defending her poor choices...go on, defend it....I love who Stevie used to be...not who she has become. I blame Karen.

:distress:

How long since she went triple platinum? As a solo artist? Since Bella Donna. That's an odd standard to use since she only did it once 30 years ago.

[StreetAngel86]

3. IYD was better than Say You Will


it most certainly was not :shrug:
i like it
but i like SYW better
the only crap on SYW is Silver Girl

[pauls90]

3. IYD was better than Say You Will

lol No way.

Say You Will was great compared to IYD. Completely uninspired lyrically or sonically.

I tweeted Dave Stewart once reprimanding him for ruining Stevie Nicks and her album. He tweeted something back equally catty - but it makes me feel good to know he's aware there are people out there unhappy with his work with her.

I'm also disappointed she chose to work with him again - even after she went on and on about how much she loved the process.

I know people might not agree, but I WISH she would work with some younger artists and producers. I saw someone suggest she should work with Lady Antebellum which would be a good choice. A part of me wishes she would go rogue and do a dance song or two like she used to. There's a band called "Empire of the Sun" that lists 1977 Fleetwood Mac as a direct reference and inspiration on their work. Imagine Stevie vocals and lyrics on THIS instrumental. It would be a total shock but reinvigorate her career a little - like a modern "Stand Back". It has a very Stevie/FM feel but it's still crazy modern and current. I know she could pull it off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHkyFdsYw7M

[bombaysaffires]

I think sadly that because Stevie has tended not to have a clear final vision of what her songs should sound like she has been at the mercy of producers who turned her music into what *they* thought it should be. Listening to demos vs final versions it seems like Tom Petty was one of the best at translating her songs pretty closely from her demos. And honestly, I don't know if left to her own devices *she's* the best judge anymore of what her music should end up sounding like. She did have a lot of input on IYD if you judge by the documentary (a bit of a risky assumption) so you can't blame all that on Dave. He seemed to acquiesce mostly to whatever SHE wanted, which appears to be a big part of why she likes to work with him.

[michelej1]

Goes down in flames.... Huh....
With Street Angel Stevie was already cinders. She has slowly risen like a Phoenix, each project a little better than the last.
1. TISL was better than Street Angel.
2. Say You Will was better than TISL
3. IYD was better than Say You Will

If her work keeps following the trend, then this album should be excellent

I don't think her SYW songs were better than TISL, not except for Thrown Down. I mean, I like EFO as well, but it's really hard to compare it to anything else because of the disco genre. I mean, I guess I could compare it to Stand Back, that's all.

Michele

[jkmaletic]

I agree 100%....Dave Stewart should not be producing this next cd. She might as well be taking musical direction from her assistant Karen. IYD had a handful of old demos remastered and remixed which were cool, but the new stuff was pure Stewart crap. The guy is a darkness that hovers over her....she needs to clean house and surround herself with some new people.....maybe she should consider working with the crew from Lady Antebellum. ....anyone but that Stewart clown.


You guys keep applauding her as she goes down in flames. I love people who defend an empty space. She hasn't gone triple platinum in how long? Keep defending her poor choices...go on, defend it....I love who Stevie used to be...not who she has become. I blame Karen.

:distress:

I don't think anyone here is "defending" her, just stating their opinions. And also as opinions go, many music critics had great reviews for IYD. Myself, I thought it was her best ever solo work. Yes, even better than Bella Donna.

If you're going to count success only by how many platinum albums an artist has, especially these days, maybe you should stick to Mylie Cyrus records. I'm sure she's at least triple platinum.

[sodascouts]

When IYD came out, I thought it was her best work since Bella Donna. Now, after a couple years, I'm not as enamored of it. I still think it's good overall, though.

[michelej1]

Well, I thought IYD was better than Bella Donna, but Bella Donna wasn't my favorite album anyway. I always liked Wild Heart better.

As for the suggestion that she could work with Lady Antebellum, on a song or two, but for an entire CD? I think they would give us more songs like Think About It, After the Glitter Fades, Kinda Woman and the Highwayman. And I wouldn't like to see an overload of those on one album. Two of the slow and moving types is plenty.

Michele

[Gold Dust Woman]

"Pure" crap? Hm. Well the creative process looks to be quite different from what IYD was, if that gives you any hope. But I'm not sure there's any guarantee that a new FM studio album wouldn't be similarly awful. We just have to wait and hope for the best.

Alas, yes. It's at the bottom of the pile along with The Other Side of the Mirror and Street Angel for me. Rubbish. It was just... um... embarassing, IMO. I thought the lyrics were baaaaaad. I hope Dave Stewart doesn't produce her FM songs. Would that ever happen?

Let me add, I would play Bella Donna, Wild Heart, TISL and maybe even Rock A Little to any of my friends.
I would NEVER play them any of the other three.

[reebokandlace]

If you're going to count success only by how many platinum albums an artist has, especially these days, maybe you should stick to Mylie Cyrus records. I'm sure she's at least triple platinum.

You are wrong, success in this industry is counted by how many CDs an artist sells.....and how many concert tickets an artist sells. It doesn't matter whether you are Miley, the Beebs, MJ, the Dixie Chicks or whoever is on the charts today...what matters is how much airplay your music gets, more airplay means more cd sales, which means more ticket sales. The only stevie airplay I hear is the old stuff....the good stuff.

[jkmaletic]

You are wrong, success in this industry is counted by how many CDs an artist sells.....and how many concert tickets an artist sells. It doesn't matter whether you are Miley, the Beebs, MJ, the Dixie Chicks or whoever is on the charts today...what matters is how much airplay your music gets, more airplay means more cd sales, which means more ticket sales. The only stevie airplay I hear is the old stuff....the good stuff.

Right, like Mylie Cyrus. Super talent, right? After all, she sells the sh*t outta cds and concert tickets.

[BlueLight]

Not necessarily the next step. They could still spend a lot of time tweaking, doing overdubs, harmonies, adding instrumentation, etc (which could possibly take place in L.A. and not Nashville).

However, mastering IS the FINAL step. It's the icing on the cake. It's basically a process of making the each song on an album sound consistent with one another as far as volume, crispness, and audibility.

Hope that helps. :)

Thanks for the info! I never quite understood the difference between mixing and mastering.

It looks like Dave is back in LA - - which seems consistent with his and Mick's "two weeks in Nashville" statements.

https://twitter.com/Nickslive/status/462940813732089857

Guys, I am so incredibly excited about this! :blob2:

[Dex]

Alas, yes. It's at the bottom of the pile along with The Other Side of the Mirror and Street Angel for me. Rubbish. It was just... um... embarassing, IMO. I thought the lyrics were baaaaaad. I hope Dave Stewart doesn't produce her FM songs. Would that ever happen?


Dave Stewart didn't have anything to do with the lyrics on IYD though? Just thought that was worth mentioning if it's your main gripe with the album. I know what you mean, though. I really love IYD but I admit Stevie somehow seemed like a much more mature songwriter in her 20s than she does today, which is something I do find troubling.

For the record, though, I play more than a bit of IYD for friends and it does seem to go down pretty well. I'd probably skip Soldier's Angel and Cheaper than Free, but otherwise... yeah. It seems to connect to people a lot more consistently than WH or TISL do.

[BlueLight]

Dave Stewart didn't have anything to do with the lyrics on IYD though? Just thought that was worth mentioning if it's your main gripe with the album. I know what you mean, though. I really love IYD but I admit Stevie somehow seemed like a much more mature songwriter in her 20s than she does today, which is something I do find troubling.

For the record, though, I play more than a bit of IYD for friends and it does seem to go down pretty well. I'd probably skip Soldier's Angel and Cheaper than Free, but otherwise... yeah. It seems to connect to people a lot more consistently than WH or TISL do.

I love IYD from start to finish, with the exception of SA and CTF. But I agree, the lyrics on some of the songs (New Orleans, Italian Summer), are surprisingly literal for Stevie. Which is why I would really love for her to record some of her Bella Donna vault songs.

[Dex]

I love IYD from start to finish, with the exception of SA and CTF. But I agree, the lyrics on some of the songs (New Orleans, Italian Summer), are surprisingly literal for Stevie. Which is why I would really love for her to record some of her Bella Donna vault songs.

She's had a fair share of lyrical clunkers post-WH though. I mean, most of the non-vault songwriting that was actually hers on RAL isn't all that great or moving. And I'll never forget that moment where I read an interview clip of her talking about how Long Way to Go is actually about her travelling a long way to see someone, and then they break up with her, but she thought they already did that. I think a lot of her lyrics might benefit from a little mystery. ;)

[BlueLight]

She's had a fair share of lyrical clunkers post-WH though. I mean, most of the non-vault songwriting that was actually hers on RAL isn't all that great or moving. And I'll never forget that moment where I read an interview clip of her talking about how Long Way to Go is actually about her travelling a long way to see someone, and then they break up with her, but she thought they already did that. I think a lot of her lyrics might benefit from a little mystery. ;)

Oof, I had never heard that about Long Way To Go - pretty amazing. But still, "she stares at the stairs" takes the cake in my book.

[Gold Dust Woman]

Dave Stewart didn't have anything to do with the lyrics on IYD though? Just thought that was worth mentioning if it's your main gripe with the album. I know what you mean, though. I really love IYD but I admit Stevie somehow seemed like a much more mature songwriter in her 20s than she does today, which is something I do find troubling.

For the record, though, I play more than a bit of IYD for friends and it does seem to go down pretty well. I'd probably skip Soldier's Angel and Cheaper than Free, but otherwise... yeah. It seems to connect to people a lot more consistently than WH or TISL do.
I could have sworn I read somewhere that they wrote songs together which Stevie doesnt normally do.
I agree her songs were more mature when she was younger.
My main gripe is the awful lyrics but I do think the whole album is pretty bad, not just lyrics.

[michelej1]

Alas, yes. It's at the bottom of the pile along with The Other Side of the Mirror and Street Angel for me. Rubbish. It was just... um... embarassing, IMO. I thought the lyrics were baaaaaad. I hope Dave Stewart doesn't produce her FM songs. Would that ever happen?

Let me add, I would play Bella Donna, Wild Heart, TISL and maybe even Rock A Little to any of my friends.
I would NEVER play them any of the other three.

I remember you could stream the tracks online at Rolling Stone and my friend loved the album listening to it that way and then I got My Heart later with my CD and sent My Heart to him and he absolutely flipped. He said that was the best of all and he didn't understand how it didn't make it onto the album.

Michele

[Dex]

I could have sworn I read somewhere that they wrote songs together which Stevie doesnt normally do.
I agree her songs were more mature when she was younger.
My main gripe is the awful lyrics but I do think the whole album is pretty bad, not just lyrics.

When they describe the actual process of the co-writing, though, it's clear the lyrics are hers alone, and he bangs out some music while she recites them in a "sing-songy" style until they come up with a song. That's how they did most of their writing together. Although I need to correct myself a bit as he did come up with the chorus to ELY and CTF. Not exactly lyrical high points, but not the worst of the bunch either. "What's faster than a fast car? A beating heart!" is all her.

Feel free to still think the album is horrible, though. Personally I'm finding it one of the ones I have more success with when trying to demonstrate what all the fuss over SN is about.

[Jondalar]

I could have sworn I read somewhere that they wrote songs together which Stevie doesnt normally do.
I agree her songs were more mature when she was younger.
My main gripe is the awful lyrics but I do think the whole album is pretty bad, not just lyrics.

What are your favorite Stevie Nicks albums?

[sorcerer999]

But still, "she stares at the stairs" takes the cake in my book.

Haha! Right? For me it's "Touched By An Angel" when she sings, "...everything was the same except that everything was different."

Cringe.

[Gold Dust Woman]

What are your favorite Stevie Nicks albums?

Right now the order would be

Bella Donna
Wild Heart
TISL
Rock A Little

Sometimes the order might change except Bella Donna is always number one for me. I never skip a track on that record.

[mylittledemon]

But still, "she stares at the stairs" takes the cake in my book.

Well, there are many things to stare at these days.

[StreetAngel86]

lol No way.

Say You Will was great compared to IYD. Completely uninspired lyrically or sonically.




let's get married :xoxo::xoxo:
Stevie's songs on IYD were 1/2 half for me
Cheaper Than Free?
come on, that's just sloppy.
My Heart was ruined
i want to say Annabel Lee was too ... just coz I'm partial to the other versions we prob shouldn't have listened to :D
IYD/Soldiers Angel/Moonlight are perfection

Empire of the Sun are pretty popular over here. Their first CD was very FM-esque musically. But I'd rather her work with Dave Grohl or anyone over Stewart tbh. I like that he has inspired her. but i don't think he is the best for her :sorry:

[BlueLight]

Well, there are many things to stare at these days.

As bad at the lyric is, I have to admit, I probably could listen to her sing "wassa matter baby" repeatedly in concert, and be content.

[BlueLight]

I remember you could stream the tracks online at Rolling Stone and my friend loved the album listening to it that way and then I got My Heart later with my CD and sent My Heart to him and he absolutely flipped. He said that was the best of all and he didn't understand how it didn't make it onto the album.

Michele

I never understood this either. One of the best songs on the album. And I know many disagree on this point, but I prefer it by far over the TISL Acetate version.

[Jondalar]

I never understood this either. One of the best songs on the album. And I know many disagree on this point, but I prefer it by far over the TISL Acetate version.

I really like IYD My Heart. She can't sing the other version.

[mylittledemon]

As bad at the lyric is, I have to admit, I probably could listen to her sing "wassa matter baby" repeatedly in concert, and be content.

LOL... that song is just... something else. I love when Lindsey chimes in at the end though.

[bombaysaffires]

When they describe the actual process of the co-writing, though, it's clear the lyrics are hers alone, and he bangs out some music while she recites them in a "sing-songy" style until they come up with a song. That's how they did most of their writing together. Although I need to correct myself a bit as he did come up with the chorus to ELY and CTF. Not exactly lyrical high points, but not the worst of the bunch either. "What's faster than a fast car? A beating heart!" is all her.

Feel free to still think the album is horrible, though. Personally I'm finding it one of the ones I have more success with when trying to demonstrate what all the fuss over SN is about.


Dave wrote the music and the chorus to Everybody Loves You; Stevie added the verses.

The music for New Orleans was actually written by Neale Heywood

[Phil]

Regarding the recent Nashville recording session, I would like to think that Stevie had put down some vocals, but I’m not sure there would have been sufficient time for this. From memory, she did record the vocals for the IYD album after the instrumentation had been completed. It’s important to me that she be in good voice whenever this took/takes place because no matter how great the song is, it always stands or falls (for me) on the basis of the vocal delivery. (That was my major problem with some of her contributions to the SYW album.)
Whilst Dave did elicit some wonderful vocal performances from Stevie for IYD, there were parts of which I’m not so fond (the first verse to “Annabel Lee”; the verses and chorus of “In Your Dreams”; the rushed delivery on “Italian Summer” and to some extent, “For What It’s Worth” and the rough take on “The Ghost Is Gone”).
The fast pace of this current recording excites me in some ways, but I am concerned about Stevie's vocals holding up.

[Jondalar]

Regarding the recent Nashville recording session, I would like to think that Stevie had put down some vocals, but I’m not sure there would have been sufficient time for this. From memory, she did record the vocals for the IYD album after the instrumentation had been completed. It’s important to me that she be in good voice whenever this took/takes place because no matter how great the song is, it always stands or falls (for me) on the basis of the vocal delivery. (That was my major problem with some of her contributions to the SYW album.)
Whilst Dave did elicit some wonderful vocal performances from Stevie for IYD, there were parts of which I’m not so fond (the first verse to “Annabel Lee”; the verses and chorus of “In Your Dreams”; the rushed delivery on “Italian Summer” and to some extent, “For What It’s Worth” and the rough take on “The Ghost Is Gone”).
The fast pace of this current recording excites me in some ways, but I am concerned about Stevie's vocals holding up.

I was thinking about this today. 15 tracks in two weeks-no way she sang her best.

[Dex]

Dave wrote the music and the chorus to Everybody Loves You; Stevie added the verses.


In fairness, I did say that in literally the next sentence. ;) But yes, not every song on IYD was a co-write with Dave Stewart done in the way that I described.

I think a great vocal often doesn't take countless cuts to get right. And indeed, if it's taking that long, there might be something greater wrong than just a time crunch. I don't think she'll release an album where she doesn't think she sounds good at any point. And if she does, it'll probably be for reasons other than a time crunch. She's had vocally questionable moments in her studio recordings since RAL, and this album may be no different, but I don't think the time frame will be to blame for that.

[shackin'up]

I love the concept of recording 15 songs in two weeks. I don't want her to sing her best technically, I want her to sing her most real and unpolished. From her gut, from the basic emotion. Also if it's instable or slightly out of tune in moments. The live-feel. Cool.

[Dex]

I love the concept of recording 15 songs in two weeks. I don't want her to sing her best technically, I want her to sing her most real and unpolished. From her gut, from the basic emotion. Also if it's instable or slightly out of tune in moments. The live-feel. Cool.

These were my initial thoughts too. Although, given her fastidiousness for touching up even her actual live tracks, I doubt this release is going to give us anything like that. I am fairly confident that it'll sound good, though. :)

[Phil]

I don't think she'll release an album where she doesn't think she sounds good at any point.

Agreed, but the problem these days is that Stevie thinks she always sounds ****ing brilliant! Her ego is so out of control that she believes she can sing exactly the same way she did in the 1970's. Stevie doesn't hear the lazy monotone delivery or the harsh belting that has become a mainstay of her performances these days.
Dave encouraged far superior vocals on IYD than were present on TISL and SYW, but he needs to be tougher on her with this next batch.

[Jondalar]

I don't think she'll release an album where she doesn't think she sounds good at any point.

Agreed, but the problem these days is that Stevie thinks she always sounds ****ing brilliant! Her ego is so out of control that she believes she can sing exactly the same way she did in the 1970's. Stevie doesn't hear the lazy monotone delivery or the harsh belting that has become a mainstay of her performances these days.
Dave encouraged far superior vocals on IYD than were present on TISL and SYW, but he needs to be tougher on her with this next batch.

Stevie has released albums with hideous vocals before.

[BlueDenimLamp]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>working with Ann Marie Calhoun on string parts for Stevie Nicks today . <a href="http://t.co/ymBwKJT894">http://t.co/ymBwKJT894</a></p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/463733554602467328">May 6, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like Ann Marie Calhoun will be playing on a few songs again...This is good as I liked what she did on "IYD"

[BlueDenimLamp]

It has been brought up in another thread that Stevie has a 5 record contract with WB...If her contract is for 5 records to be released in 15 years it would explain her recording a solo album while FM is working on a band project if she is contracted for a 2015 solo release...

[editme2]

This is all very exciting, and I can't believe how quickly this all seemed to come together (unless, of course, she and Dave had this planned for a while).

I wonder now when we'll hear this new music. Stevie has a lot of stuff planned with Fleetwood Mac this fall and into early next year. I can't imagine that she'll want to hold the album until next spring, especially if the Mac has plans to release an album next spring or summer. A Nicks album and a Fleetwood Mac album in stores at the same time probably wouldn't be a good idea.

My guess is that Stevie's new disc will be released this fall and she'll promote it while on the road with Fleetwood Mac, much like she did the release of Live in Chicago. Or perhaps she'll get it out in July and spend July and August promoting it via the press.

Who knows? It's all very intriguing.

[jkmaletic]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>working with Ann Marie Calhoun on string parts for Stevie Nicks today . <a href="http://t.co/ymBwKJT894">http://t.co/ymBwKJT894</a></p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/463733554602467328">May 6, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like Ann Marie Calhoun will be playing on a few songs again...This is good as I liked what she did on "IYD"

More great news!!!
This makes my Tuesday. :nod:

Jamie

[Jondalar]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>working with Ann Marie Calhoun on string parts for Stevie Nicks today . <a href="http://t.co/ymBwKJT894">http://t.co/ymBwKJT894</a></p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/463733554602467328">May 6, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like Ann Marie Calhoun will be playing on a few songs again...This is good as I liked what she did on "IYD"

This makes me happy. It means that it is not so rushed and that he is still perfecting the pieces. Thanks for posting this.

What do we know about this album? She wrote songs about her mother and Game of Thrones... Dave called this album Classic Stevie Nicks... anything else?

[BlueDenimLamp]

This makes me happy. It means that it is not so rushed and that he is still perfecting the pieces. Thanks for posting this.

What do we know about this album? She wrote songs about her mother and Game of Thrones... Dave called this album Classic Stevie Nicks... anything else?

Waddy seems to be as involved as he was with "IYD"...

Stevie very well may owe WB a release next year...Christine's unexpected return and FM's fall tour would have thrown a major wrench in the works as far as what Stevie was planning for 2014...Personally I don't think FM has any plans to put out an album this year or next year...Seems to me that FM is in a rush to get Christine's recording done before something happens...It's better to get her songs recorded now because should something happen like she changes her mind or someone falls ill they already have CM's songs done...What is being worked on now could most likely be for a "Farewell Album" out in 2016...Yes I said 2016...If Stevie owes WB a solo record out in 2015 I don't see them putting out a FM record at the same time...

[bombaysaffires]

Agreed, but the problem these days is that Stevie thinks she always sounds ****ing brilliant! Her ego is so out of control that she believes she can sing exactly the same way she did in the 1970's. Stevie doesn't hear the lazy monotone delivery or the harsh belting that has become a mainstay of her performances these days.
Dave encouraged far superior vocals on IYD than were present on TISL and SYW, but he needs to be tougher on her with this next batch.

I thought she had some really good vocals on TISL. Sheryl brought her higher range back (Sorcerer for one) and I thought she didn't sound as "processed" as she does on a lot of tracks with Dave.

[Johnny Stew]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>working with Ann Marie Calhoun on string parts for Stevie Nicks today . <a href="http://t.co/ymBwKJT894">http://t.co/ymBwKJT894</a></p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/463733554602467328">May 6, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like Ann Marie Calhoun will be playing on a few songs again...This is good as I liked what she did on "IYD"

I'm thrilled that this album is moving along so rapidly. Considering how quickly they're working, I'll be really surprised if we don't get the album sometime this year. Or within the first few months of 2015, at the latest.

[BlueLight]

I'm thrilled that this album is moving along so rapidly. Considering how quickly they're working, I'll be really surprised if we don't get the album sometime this year. Or within the first few months of 2015, at the latest.

I'm doing my best not to get my hopes up, but gosh that would be great. At the very least, I bet Stevie will do a few solo shows this summer.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Stevie's record will be out in 2015 with minimal FM touring 30 to 40 dates early in the year...Stevie's record will be after FM wraps up then she will promote and tour...

[BlueDenimLamp]

I'm thrilled that this album is moving along so rapidly. Considering how quickly they're working, I'll be really surprised if we don't get the album sometime this year. Or within the first few months of 2015, at the latest.

I think it will drop in May like "IYD" did...

[BlueLight]

I think it will drop in May like "IYD" did...

And OSOTM, SA, and TISL!

[BlueDenimLamp]

And OSOTM, SA, and TISL!

That would leave room for FM to tour Australia in February then UK in March/April...

[UnwindedDreams]

That would leave room for FM to tour Australia in February then UK in March/April...
I think Mac will tour Australia/NZ from February-March. Stevie will release her CD in April/May. Then Mac will tour Europe Summer 2015 (Glastonbury's in June)

[louielouie2000]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>working with Ann Marie Calhoun on string parts for Stevie Nicks today . <a href="http://t.co/ymBwKJT894">http://t.co/ymBwKJT894</a></p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/463733554602467328">May 6, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like Ann Marie Calhoun will be playing on a few songs again...This is good as I liked what she did on "IYD"

This has to be my favorite piece of information to come out regarding this album. I just love strings in pop/rock/folk music, and I loved them on In Your Dreams. Very encouraging news. :nod:

[BombaySapphire3]

I think it will drop in May like "IYD" did...

History would indicate that this is correct since it usually a year or so after we hear about her starting to record and the album being released but something about this one feels different..like it could be out much sooner than we expect.Does anyone know how quickly it could be released if they really wanted to get it out ASAP..I'm thinking like even July :shrug:but I am certainly no expert.

[michelej1]

History would indicate that this is correct since it usually a year or so after we hear about her starting to record and the album being released but something about this one feels different..like it could be out much sooner than we expect.Does anyone know how quickly it could be released if they really wanted to get it out ASAP..I'm thinking like even July :shrug:but I am certainly no expert.

Yes, just the way Mick described the concept of them knocking it out quickly made me think they intended on releasing it quickly too.

I don't know how quickly it could be released. I mean could she do a round of interviews in June to promote it? Then, head back for FM rehearsals in July.

There might be one concert, like at the Wiltern, a listening party and one for the east coast too, but I don't think there would be any other concert dates this year.

Michele

[michelej1]

Also, I'm not saying this is a country album, but with the CMT awards being June 4, I'm thinking that Stevie might have at least one song ready that might be appropriate for a performance on that show.

Michele

[Jondalar]

History would indicate that this is correct since it usually a year or so after we hear about her starting to record and the album being released but something about this one feels different..like it could be out much sooner than we expect.Does anyone know how quickly it could be released if they really wanted to get it out ASAP..I'm thinking like even July :shrug:but I am certainly no expert.

I agree. I think it will be out this summer or fall. It feels different.

[MoonSister75]

I thought she had some really good vocals on TISL. Sheryl brought her higher range back (Sorcerer for one) and I thought she didn't sound as "processed" as she does on a lot of tracks with Dave.

I'm a much bigger fan of TISL and SYW. IYD is a little over-processed and polished for me, so I'm hoping for something with a different sound this time. Its all very exciting though, and I like the fact this album seems to be being produced much more quickly. :blob2: It would be great if it came out this year.

I really want the FM album too ASAP. :angel:

[Jondalar]

I am so interested in hearing what Stevie has come up with for this new album. I found IYD to be a bit surprising.

[wheart]

I'm a much bigger fan of TISL and SYW. IYD is a little over-processed and polished for me, so I'm hoping for something with a different sound this time. Its all very exciting though, and I like the fact this album seems to be being produced much more quickly. :blob2: It would be great if it came out this year.

I really want the FM album too ASAP. :angel:

I like IYD a lot but I get what you mean about being over processed. TISL was never a favorite of mine but it does seem to have a quality that IYD doesn't. It too is meticulously produced but it has more rawness to it.

[louielouie2000]

History would indicate that this is correct since it usually a year or so after we hear about her starting to record and the album being released but something about this one feels different..like it could be out much sooner than we expect.Does anyone know how quickly it could be released if they really wanted to get it out ASAP..I'm thinking like even July :shrug:but I am certainly no expert.

Yes, just the way Mick described the concept of them knocking it out quickly made me think they intended on releasing it quickly too.

I don't know how quickly it could be released. I mean could she do a round of interviews in June to promote it? Then, head back for FM rehearsals in July.

There might be one concert, like at the Wiltern, a listening party and one for the east coast too, but I don't think there would be any other concert dates this year.

Michele

I agree. I think it will be out this summer or fall. It feels different.

I think y'all are setting yourselves up for heartache if you think the album will drop this year. When has Stevie ever released an album (solo or Mac) without touring behind it? Heck, she toured 2 consecutive years behind In Your Dreams... and then did the film festival circuit the 3rd year to promote it's documentary. Stevie is very much a capitalist when it comes to selling her albums... as she famously said, "This is not about art."

I think if anything, she will release the album sometime next year while the Mac is between tour legs or is recording. That way she can throw some solo dates in there. And that's being fairly optimistic in itself. She could hold it longer until she's able to do a full scale tour, and who knows when that will be. :shrug:

[Jondalar]

I think y'all are setting yourselves up for heartache if you think the album will drop this year. When has Stevie ever released an album (solo or Mac) without touring behind it? Heck, she toured 2 consecutive years behind In Your Dreams... and then did the film festival circuit the 3rd year to promote it's documentary. Stevie is very much a capitalist when it comes to selling her albums... as she famously said, "This is not about art."

I think if anything, she will release the album sometime next year while the Mac is between tour legs or is recording. That way she can throw some solo dates in there. And that's being fairly optimistic in itself. She could hold it longer until she's able to do a full scale tour, and who knows when that will be. :shrug:

That touring didn't get the album to gold. I'm not sure if she thinks it matters. You are forgetting that she is starting to feel her age.

[wheart]

That touring didn't get the album to gold. I'm not sure if she thinks it matters. You are forgetting that she is starting to feel her age.

I agree. I think she's finally realizing she's not going to see albums like she used to. Times have changed drastically, and yes, she is a 65 year old artist. This may be wishful thinking but I have feeling she's gonna drop the album this year ala Beyoncé, with no fanfare. It does seem to go against everything she has done in the past but that may very well be the point.

[jkmaletic]

I agree. I think she's finally realizing she's not going to see albums like she used to. Times have changed drastically, and yes, she is a 65 year old artist. This may be wishful thinking but I have feeling she's gonna drop the album this year ala Beyoncé, with no fanfare. It does seem to go against everything she has done in the past but that may very well be the point.

I agree.
Alhough it wouldn't be her normal pattern as far as releases go, there's a reason she wanted to get it done this fast.
Plus, as I mentioned before, there's no way her management and FM's management would let a new Stevie solo record and FM drop at the same time. Bad for business on both sides.

[wheart]

I agree.
Alhough it wouldn't be her normal pattern as far as releases go, there's a reason she wanted to get it done this fast.
Plus, as I mentioned before, there's no way her management and FM's management would let a new Stevie solo record and FM drop at the same time. Bad for business on both sides.

I hadn't even considered the FM album...which I do believe is definitely happening. Another piece in the puzzle.

[BlueDenimLamp]

I think y'all are setting yourselves up for heartache if you think the album will drop this year. When has Stevie ever released an album (solo or Mac) without touring behind it? Heck, she toured 2 consecutive years behind In Your Dreams... and then did the film festival circuit the 3rd year to promote it's documentary. Stevie is very much a capitalist when it comes to selling her albums... as she famously said, "This is not about art."

I think if anything, she will release the album sometime next year while the Mac is between tour legs or is recording. That way she can throw some solo dates in there. And that's being fairly optimistic in itself. She could hold it longer until she's able to do a full scale tour, and who knows when that will be. :shrug:

At least someone here is being reasonable with their thinking and I agree that fans are just going to be disappointed if they think Stevie is going to record a full album and just throw it out there and basically turn her back on it...

Fleetwood Mac is doing 39 U.S. shows (so far ) this fall...They will probably hit Australia/NZ in February (12 to 15 shows )and UK in March/April ( 20 to 25 shows ) which makes approximately 70 to 80 "Reunion" shows...After that Stevie will do her solo thing and we wont see Fleetwood Mac return for at least a year or two...

[michelej1]

We will have to see what Dave tweets. If the album continues to be a work in progress, that's one thing. But if it is pretty much finished according to him, I just don't see her holding it back. The FM tour won't halt album promotion, she can use FM touring as a part of the promotion.

She really promoted IYD in two bursts, not one. I can see her releasing the album this year with some fanfare and then promoting it full scale next year.

Michele

[MikeVielhaber]

I agree. I think she's finally realizing she's not going to see albums like she used to. Times have changed drastically, and yes, she is a 65 year old artist. This may be wishful thinking but I have feeling she's gonna drop the album this year ala Beyoncé, with no fanfare. It does seem to go against everything she has done in the past but that may very well be the point.

But see, Beyonce can do that and sell 2 million copies. People are going to pay attention to anything she does. If Stevie Nicks did that, in 2014, it's just going to come and go without anyone noticing. Just like the EP did.

[BlueDenimLamp]

According to todays Billboard article the band has no plans to do any "Stevie" songs until a later date and they have left room for Stevie to add her parts on the LB & CM songs...Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6077606/fleetwood-mac-new-album-studio-christine-mcvie-lindsey-buckingham) ...So it's possible the band had no intention of working with Stevie until a later date...

[BlueDenimLamp]

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So it looks like Stevie & Dave are in town for at least a little while...

[BlueLight]

I'll preface this by saying that I know absolutely nothing about the music distribution process. But even after some quick googling, it sounds like the distribution process (unsurprisingly) doesn't happen overnight, with this one distributor noting a 14-week process:

http://klmdistribution.com/salesanddistribution

Assuming that Stevie isn't planning to drop a digital-only album (unlikely, in my opinion), I realistically don't think we're going to see anything before the end of the year.

[BlueDenimLamp]

I'll preface this by saying that I know absolutely nothing about the music distribution process. But even after some quick googling, it sounds like the distribution process (unsurprisingly) doesn't happen overnight, with this one distributor noting a 14-week process:

http://klmdistribution.com/salesanddistribution

Assuming that Stevie isn't planning to drop a digital-only album (unlikely, in my opinion), I realistically don't think we're going to see anything before the end of the year.

Dave's last few records and notice I said "Records" have been recorded in the same way as what Stevie just did...If Stevie follows Dave's lead and puts this latest solo record out on vinyl as well it will slow the process down quite a bit...I will gladly wait for new Stevie vinyl...

[BlueLight]

Dave's last few records and notice I said "Records" have been recorded in the same way as what Stevie just did...If Stevie follows Dave's lead and puts this latest solo record out on vinyl as well it will slow the process down quite a bit...I will gladly wait for new Stevie vinyl...

Agreed entirely! I still hold out an unrealistic hope that IYD will be released on vinyl one day.

[BombaySapphire3]

I think y'all are setting yourselves up for heartache if you think the album will drop this year. When has Stevie ever released an album (solo or Mac) without touring behind it? Heck, she toured 2 consecutive years behind In Your Dreams... and then did the film festival circuit the 3rd year to promote it's documentary. Stevie is very much a capitalist when it comes to selling her albums... as she famously said, "This is not about art.

Stevie only did a tiny handful of shows to support Bella Donna.She did not commence the RAL tour until over 6 months after that album's release.This time I think this album may actually be more about art than commerce .IYD was likely the final wake up call that she is not going to have gold or platinum albums anymore.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Like I've been saying...

At least someone here is being reasonable with their thinking and I agree that fans are just going to be disappointed if they think Stevie is going to record a full album and just throw it out there and basically turn her back on it...

Fleetwood Mac is doing 39 U.S. shows (so far ) this fall...They will probably hit Australia/NZ in February (12 to 15 shows )and UK in March/April ( 20 to 25 shows ) which makes approximately 70 to 80 "Reunion" shows...After that Stevie will do her solo thing and we wont see Fleetwood Mac return for at least a year or two...

According to todays Billboard article the band has no plans to do any "Stevie" songs until a later date and they have left room for Stevie to add her parts on the LB & CM songs...Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6077606/fleetwood-mac-new-album-studio-christine-mcvie-lindsey-buckingham) ...So it's possible the band had no intention of working with Stevie until a later date...

Here's LB's audio Lindsey Says ....... (https://soundcloud.com/gmi-interactive/lindsey-buckingham-on/s-hwfIH#new-timed-comment-at-55231) So it looks like some "Ledgies" went off the deep end for no reason...

So right now it looks like FM are gearing up for a 2016 or 2017 album and tour...

[MikeVielhaber]

Like I've been saying...





Here's LB's audio Lindsey Says ....... (https://soundcloud.com/gmi-interactive/lindsey-buckingham-on/s-hwfIH#new-timed-comment-at-55231) So it looks like some "Ledgies" went off the deep end for no reason...

So right now it looks like FM are gearing up for a 2016 or 2017 album and tour...

I think most assumed Stevie would join eventually. But it was a question of when. Lindsey now says (with kind of a skeptical tone in his voice) it'll be after the tour which is new information. And it may be a recent conversation where they finalized her involvement in the project. They certainly didn't act as though this was all set in previous interviews. So I don't think it was for no reason. I think we all were hopeful they'd figure something out while also being frustrated about it.

[michelej1]

Here's LB's audio Lindsey Says ....... (https://soundcloud.com/gmi-interactive/lindsey-buckingham-on/s-hwfIH#new-timed-comment-at-55231) So it looks like some "Ledgies" went off the deep end for no reason...

So right now it looks like FM are gearing up for a 2016 or 2017 album and tour...

The band did not go into the studio in 2014 with the intention of putting out an album in 2016. If that's the tentative time frame now, at least they have one. But that clearly wasn't the plan all along.

Michele

[bombaysaffires]

Like I've been saying...





Here's LB's audio Lindsey Says ....... (https://soundcloud.com/gmi-interactive/lindsey-buckingham-on/s-hwfIH#new-timed-comment-at-55231)
So right now it looks like FM are gearing up for a 2016 or 2017 album and tour...

so let's see….. 2017, 3 years from now half the band will be comfortably over 70 and the other half pushing 70.

Do these people think they are vampires and will live (and be healthy and road-worthy) forever?!?

[KarmaContestant]

While it's likely that the two incidents are codependent, I'm happy that we're at least (hopefully) getting a Stevie album and a Fleetwood Mac album. Though the delay of one must surely be the result of the other. Hmm.

[BlueLight]

Dave hasn't tweeted about Stevie in two days. He's killing me.

[michelej1]

so let's see….. 2017, 3 years from now half the band will be comfortably over 70 and the other half pushing 70.

Do these people think they are vampires and will live (and be healthy and road-worthy) forever?!?

Right. Let's be very generous: they have 10 more years tops.

I laughed when Christine said she's here in perpetuity, for as long as she's around. In other words, "I'll be an FM member until I die."

Good to know, lady. Michele

[bombaysaffires]

so let's see….. 2017, 3 years from now half the band will be comfortably over 70 and the other half pushing 70.

Do these people think they are vampires and will live (and be healthy and road-worthy) forever?!?

actually, I should have said half in their 70s and the others staring 70 right in the face. Stevie will be 69 and Lindsey 68. Yikes.

[elle]

so let's see….. 2017, 3 years from now half the band will be comfortably over 70 and the other half pushing 70.

Do these people think they are vampires and will live (and be healthy and road-worthy) forever?!?

actually, I should have said half in their 70s and the others staring 70 right in the face. Stevie will be 69 and Lindsey 68. Yikes.

haha love it - perfect post! :thumbsup:

[BlueDenimLamp]

so let's see….. 2017, 3 years from now half the band will be comfortably over 70 and the other half pushing 70.

Do these people think they are vampires and will live (and be healthy and road-worthy) forever?!?

actually, I should have said half in their 70s and the others staring 70 right in the face. Stevie will be 69 and Lindsey 68. Yikes.

In 2017 Christine will turn 74...

[teedeerocks]

so let's see….. 2017, 3 years from now half the band will be comfortably over 70 and the other half pushing 70.

Do these people think they are vampires and will live (and be healthy and road-worthy) forever?!?

I SOOO agree.They must think they are indistructable.Seriously in denial-get a grip guys...:shrug:

[teedeerocks]

I was thinking about this today. 15 tracks in two weeks-no way she sang her best.

But this might be a great thing for us(me anyway:p).Maybe her voice will have that edgy sound that she so superbly shared with us in the 70's.God, that takes me away:angel:...

[MoonSister75]

TISL was never a favorite of mine but it does seem to have a quality that IYD doesn't. It too is meticulously produced but it has more rawness to it.

But this might be a great thing for us(me anyway:p).Maybe her voice will have that edgy sound that she so superbly shared with us in the 70's.God, that takes me away:angel:...

Yes more rawness, more edginess - that's the Stevie I love :blob2:

[Jondalar]

But this might be a great thing for us(me anyway:p).Maybe her voice will have that edgy sound that she so superbly shared with us in the 70's.God, that takes me away:angel:...

If she sounds like she did on TOSOTM or Street Angel then it would be a very very very very bad thing.

[BlueLight]

If she sounds like she did on TOSOTM or Street Angel then it would be a very very very very bad thing.

I shudder at even the thought of some of her SA vocal outtakes.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Jimmy Iovine demonstrates that he's a winner, that all the naysayers are wrong. He went on "American Idol" with those godforsaken Beats headphones around his neck and he willed them to be successful. Now that he's unloaded Beats Music, rumor has it that Iovine will be shepherding a return to rock movement, saying it's all about being able to play your instrument and that hip-hop is dead. He will reunite Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty for another duet, maybe around the time of the Apple/Beats launch, Jimmy has always known it's about marketing.

Could this be??? Another Stevie Nicks/Tom Petty duet on her new record...Dave said the new recordings were "Classic Stevie Nicks"

The full article...Jimmy Iovine (http://www.timesunion.com/technology/businessinsider/article/One-Of-The-Music-Industry-s-Smartest-Insiders-5464438.php)

[teedeerocks]

If she sounds like she did on TOSOTM or Street Angel then it would be a very very very very bad thing.

I agree with you here but I was talking about The White Album and Rumours in particular. The ones you mentioned I feel were TOTALLY overproduced and her voice was altered beyond the usual recognition.She was so wasted during that time she couldn't have made a decent decision about her career to save her life IMO.

[Hawkeye]

White album and rumours vocals are never ever happening again. We need to set the standard a little lower.

[Dragon]

I am excited to see Stevie working on new music. With three songwriters in the band and Fleetwood Mac actively recording, it is a wise idea to record a solo record, then join the band for their new record.

[louielouie2000]

Jimmy Iovine demonstrates that he's a winner, that all the naysayers are wrong. He went on "American Idol" with those godforsaken Beats headphones around his neck and he willed them to be successful. Now that he's unloaded Beats Music, rumor has it that Iovine will be shepherding a return to rock movement, saying it's all about being able to play your instrument and that hip-hop is dead. He will reunite Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty for another duet, maybe around the time of the Apple/Beats launch, Jimmy has always known it's about marketing.

Could this be??? Another Stevie Nicks/Tom Petty duet on her new record...Dave said the new recordings were "Classic Stevie Nicks"

The full article...Jimmy Iovine (http://www.timesunion.com/technology/businessinsider/article/One-Of-The-Music-Industry-s-Smartest-Insiders-5464438.php)

I just read a really fascinating article on Buzzfeed about Beats being bought by Apple. Basically it stated Apple was buying Beats simply for Jimmy Iovine. That Jimmy has somewhat of a midas touch, and that he's been transitioning away from being involved with recording artists in favor of entrepreneurship for years. The article was comparing Iovine to Steve Jobs, and how both Iovine & Jobs are the polar opposite of Apple's current CEO, Tim Cook. Cook is comparatively conservative, quiet, and risk-averse. There was talk of Apple's perceived stagnation since Jobs' death, and how Iovine could bring the currently missing showmanship and risk-taking back to Apple.

So the moral of the story is, I don't think Apple buying Beats by Dre really has anything to do with a rock renaissance or the perceived death of Hip Hop. However, I think it has everything to do with bringing on someone visionary & brash into Apple. The article stated Iovine predicted the downfall of downloaded music (a la iTunes) years ago in favor of streaming content (Spotify, Pandora, iTunes radio, etc). With the recent news that Apple is missing it's targets in iPad sales & lack of innovation in their new iPhones, I think they're just looking to hire someone who can see a bit further down the road in regards to shifting consumer tastes & demands. And that's always been Jimmy's strong suit, and that's where he fits into this equation. :)

[BlueDenimLamp]

I just read a really fascinating article on Buzzfeed about Beats being bought by Apple. Basically it stated Apple was buying Beats simply for Jimmy Iovine. That Jimmy has somewhat of a midas touch, and that he's been transitioning away from being involved with recording artists in favor of entrepreneurship for years. The article was comparing Iovine to Steve Jobs, and how both Iovine & Jobs are the polar opposite of Apple's current CEO, Tim Cook. Cook is comparatively conservative, quiet, and risk-averse. There was talk of Apple's perceived stagnation since Jobs' death, and how Iovine could bring the currently missing showmanship and risk-taking back to Apple.

So the morale of the story is, I don't think Apple buying Beats by Dre really has anything to do with a rock renaissance or the perceived death of Hip Hop. However, I think it has everything to do with bringing on someone visionary & brash into Apple. The article stated Iovine predicted the downfall of downloaded music (a la iTunes) years ago in favor of streaming content (Spotify, Pandora, iTunes radio, etc). With the recent news that Apple is missing it's targets in iPad sales & lack of innovation in their new iPhones, I think they're just looking to hire someone who can see a bit further down the road in regards to shifting consumer tastes & demands. And that's always been Jimmy's strong suit, and that's where he fits into this equation. :)

But what if anything is this "Iovine/Nicks/Petty" thing about...Are SN & TP simply going to perform an old song at some industry function...Or is this new Stevie/Tom music that Jimmy is involved with...

[louielouie2000]

But what if anything is this "Iovine/Nicks/Petty" thing about...Are SN & TP simply going to perform an old song at some industry function...Or is this new Stevie/Tom music that Jimmy is involved with...

That was part of an April Fool's Joke by made by Bob Lefsetz: http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2014/04/01/apple-buys-beats/

[Jondalar]

I agree with you here but I was talking about The White Album and Rumours in particular. The ones you mentioned I feel were TOTALLY overproduced and her voice was altered beyond the usual recognition.She was so wasted during that time she couldn't have made a decent decision about her career to save her life IMO.

If she commits to the material like she did on Soldier's Angel, I will be very happy. That was a great vocal.

[markolas]

So the morale of the story.

Oh, dear. :distress:

[michelej1]

Oh, dear. :distress:

Well, we aren't doing cover letters for job applications. And today people dictate into their phones, so you never know how your words will be "auto-corrected." That's the moral, here.

Michele

[markolas]

It was just a joke...

[Jondalar]

I agree with you here but I was talking about The White Album and Rumours in particular. The ones you mentioned I feel were TOTALLY overproduced and her voice was altered beyond the usual recognition.She was so wasted during that time she couldn't have made a decent decision about her career to save her life IMO.

I think it is all about conviction. I remember listening to Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind and thinking that she was not committed to giving that song a good vocal at all. She didn't believe in that song even though it was a single. Strange but maybe she was mad at the record company.

She believed in Soldier's Angel and put forth her best. I'm not really a fan of the lyrics - the four years later part really bugs me, however, I love her vocal.

I want committed vocals and some passion.

[sorcerer999]

"Wild Heart" (the song) ~ THAT'S the kind of passion I'd like to see make a return to her vocal performances. Obviously the voice is not the same these days, but I know she can still deliver that passion.

[Jondalar]

"Wild Heart" (the song) ~ THAT'S the kind of passion I'd like to see make a return to her vocal performances. Obviously the voice is not the same these days, but I know she can still deliver that passion.

I think she also delivered passion on Wide Sargasso Sea. Her voice is not perfect but that is a hard song to sing. The commitment is there and so it worked well.

[Dex]

I think she also delivered passion on Wide Sargasso Sea. Her voice is not perfect but that is a hard song to sing. The commitment is there and so it worked well.

Yeah. She delivered passionate vocal performances through most of the album. Even on songs I don't particularly like (The Ghosts are Gone). If you didn't really like her vocal style on the album, ok, fair. But suggesting they weren't "passionate" vocals is really missing the mark.

[Jondalar]

Yeah. She delivered passionate vocal performances through most of the album. Even on songs I don't particularly like (The Ghosts are Gone). If you didn't really like her vocal style on the album, ok, fair. But suggesting they weren't "passionate" vocals is really missing the mark.

I never suggested that. Some previous albums definitely yes.

[Dex]

I was agreeing with you, Jondalar. :p ;) By "you" I meant... well, other people. That are not actually "you". :laugh:

[Jondalar]

I was agreeing with you, Jondalar. :p ;) By "you" I meant... well, other people. That are not actually "you". :laugh:

:) its ok. I am really intrigued with Stevie's new album. An 8th album. WOW! Not many solo acts get to an 8th album. There were a lot little surprises on IYD. One surprise was the variety of styles - each song was a different style. I wonder what is going to be explored on this record.

[MikeVielhaber]

:) its ok. I am really intrigued with Stevie's new album. An 8th album. WOW! Not many solo acts get to an 8th album. There were a lot little surprises on IYD. One surprise was the variety of styles - each song was a different style. I wonder what is going to be explored on this record.

You mean solo acts that are concurrently part of a band? 8 albums in nearly 35 years for someone with a dedicated solo career doesn't seem like an exceptional amount. probably most solo acts I listen to that have been around that long have at least that.

[Jondalar]

[QUOTE=MikeVielhaber;1129454]You mean solo acts that are concurrently part of a band? 8 albums in nearly 35 years for someone with a dedicated solo career doesn't seem like an exceptional amount. probably most solo acts I listen to that have been around that long have at least that.[/QUOTE

Wow! Who? She was not dedicated to just a solo career. Between 1979 and 1989, 10 years, she was part of 7 studio albums, not including the greatest hits or live package. Most required touring. She worked her butt off.

[michelej1]

I was agreeing with you, Jondalar. :p ;) By "you" I meant... well, other people. That are not actually "you". :laugh:

You always give me a laugh.


Michele

[wheart]

I think it is all about conviction. I remember listening to Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind and thinking that she was not committed to giving that song a good vocal at all. She didn't believe in that song even though it was a single. Strange but maybe she was mad at the record company.

She believed in Soldier's Angel and put forth her best. I'm not really a fan of the lyrics - the four years later part really bugs me, however, I love her vocal.

I want committed vocals and some passion.

She wasn't committed to most of her recordings between 89-93 due to her Klonopin addiction. I think the vocals on her Behind The Mask songs are the absolute worst of her career.

As far as passion goes, I think she really nailed it with You Can't Fix This. Maybe the lyrics are a little (lot) clunky but her vocal is fantastic.

[BlueLight]

She wasn't committed to most of her recordings between 89-93 due to her Klonopin addiction. I think the vocals on her Behind The Mask songs are the absolute worst of her career.

As far as passion goes, I think she really nailed it with You Can't Fix This. Maybe the lyrics are a little (lot) clunky but her vocal is fantastic.

Totally agree re You Can't Fix This. Don't love the production, but I don't blame that on Stevie. Would love to hear her re-record it with FM. I don't hate her BTM vocals, though - - far better than her SA vocals, IMO. :sorry:

[Jondalar]

Totally agree re You Can't Fix This. Don't love the production, but I don't blame that on Stevie. Would love to hear her re-record it with FM. I don't hate her BTM vocals, though - - far better than her SA vocals, IMO. :sorry:

I thought the best thing about the song was the music and the production. The song itself seemed half developed to me.

[BlueLight]

I thought the best thing about the song was the music and the production. The song itself seemed half developed to me.

Interesting - for me at least, it's bit too raw, and could benefit from more a polished production. But I've never been a huge Dave Grohl fan. I actually like the lyrics.

[Autumn Ocean]

Whatever she does on this album, I hope Stevie has pushed herself in her lyrics. What reads well as a poem or journal entry doesn't necessarily translate to a great lyric. In the past twenty years, there have been a lot of her songs with a great verse or a great chorus that are let down by lazy writing in the rest of the song.

[AnthonyMI]

If you divide 33 by 8 you get just over 4.1 years between Stevie Solo records!

Counting the two greatest hits packages, Soundstage Sessions and Enchanted it comes out to 2.75 years between releases.

Counting the additional video packages, the HBO special, Redrocks, Soundstage and Documentary it is 2 years between solo "events"

Not counting appearances on soundtracks, guest appearances on other people's albums, the one off "Christmas" things etc.... I would say that she has had a pretty good career in Spurts and Stats and grinding halts. (the period between 2001 and 2011 being the worst!

[KarmaContestant]

Stevie's total studio output isn't very impressive considering the total span of her career, even with Fleetwood Mac included. But, it is what it is - I wouldn't give up any of it or wish any of it undone.

I do wish she recorded more frequently, however. She certainly has written enough to have half-a-dozen more albums than she does currently.

But I'm grateful for what she's released, and for all those master reels and demos to make up for what she hasn't released. :nod:

[elle]

:) its ok. I am really intrigued with Stevie's new album. An 8th album. WOW! Not many solo acts get to an 8th album.
:confused:

from Today show website today:

"As a legend in her own time, with over 50 years in the music business, Dolly Parton could be forgiven if she wanted to rest on her laurels. Instead, the country music singer, songwriter and actress has just released her 42nd album, "Blue Smoke," and is in the middle of a world tour. During a visit to TODAY Tuesday, Parton said she won't be slowing down anytime soon."

:shrug:

[AnthonyMI]

Dolly Parton is not the same thing as Stevie Nicks.

Dolly writes SOME of her own songs, maybe more than half, depending on the theme of the album. However, she mostly does covers and sings songs written by other people. Stevie SELDOM records a song written by someone else.

One could also state, and I think even Dolly Parton would agree, that what Dolly records is mostly "Crap" for the sake of "crap" and putting something out. A lot of Dolly's albums are throw away crap. Crap crap crap. No staying power. Dated. Drivel. AND I LIKE Dolly Parton.

Stevie holds her recording to a almost magical altar of magic and treats each song like a child. Unless it is from the Klonapin era she still loves that child. When was the last time she did anything from OSOTM or SA? once? in 1999? ROF?

So yah, I dont think the original poster was talking about interpreters of songs like Dolly, or Linda etc.... but rather solo artists that are songwritters and singers of their own songs.

Being a part of a Band and going solo, not many other artists can do that. Especially a woman. Natalie Merchant comes to mind. But even she LEFT and never went back. Stevie has had 7 and counting solo efforts, plus 8(ish) and counting FM, not counting compilations.

[elle]

Dolly Parton is not the same thing as Stevie Nicks.

Dolly writes SOME of her own songs, maybe more than half, depending on the theme of the album.
no she's definitely not. she's in a league of her own. :nod:

wonder with such huge output whether the number of songs Dolly has actually written is en par or way more than number of songs Stevie has actually written?

and then there's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Will_Always_Love_You

supposedly Dolly said about that song, when it first went to #1, i took the money i made to the bank. when Whitney's version went to #1, i owned the bank. :laugh:

[vivfox]

Stevie's total studio output isn't very impressive considering the total span of her career, even with Fleetwood Mac included. But, it is what it is - I wouldn't give up any of it or wish any of it undone.

I do wish she recorded more frequently, however. She certainly has written enough to have half-a-dozen more albums than she does currently.

But I'm grateful for what she's released, and for all those master reels and demos to make up for what she hasn't released. :nod:

I'm grateful that you shared those reels with me back in 2005-6 on 7 Wonders.

:confused:
"As a legend in her own time, with over 50 years in the music business, Dolly Parton . Instead, the country music singer, songwriter and actress has just released her 42nd album

Oh how I wish Stevie would record and release an album every year. She has so many unreleased songs that I have heard that I love so much.

Dolly Parton is not the same thing as Stevie Nicks.

Dolly writes SOME of her own songs, maybe more than half, depending on the theme of the album. However, she mostly does covers and sings songs written by other people. Stevie SELDOM records a song written by someone else.

One could also state, and I think even Dolly Parton would agree, that what Dolly records is mostly "Crap" for the sake of "crap" and putting something out. A lot of Dolly's albums are throw away crap. Crap crap crap. No staying power. Dated. Drivel. AND I LIKE Dolly Parton.

Stevie has a ton of songs written by other people.I'd gladly take 42 albums of Stevie even if others thought it was filled with crap. We all have different opinions anyways on which songs of hers are good and which aren't.


she's in a league of her own. :nod:
supposedly Dolly said about that song, when it first went to #1, i took the money i made to the bank. when Whitney's version went to #1, i owned the bank. :laugh:

I have always liked Dolly as a personality.

[AnthonyMI]

Well, by "Crap" I mean more along the lines of Pop for Pop sakes. Studio style mainstream stuff that Dolly recorded because it was a flash in the pan sorta Pop country song. No substance. Just filler.

I think that is Dolly's genius. She can sit there and write a song in 5 minutes just because. Stevie on the other hand needs to ponder it, have a frame of reference, sleep on it, and have this long drawn out process. Very rarely have you heard Stevie tell a story about how she just wrote a song in 5 minutes. Her process is much more laborious.

Dolly is a business women, and maybe even a definition genius. the Ditz routine is an act. She has a brain, despite being a self described "dumb blonde". Stevie....well we know she is not a natural blonde, but she sure can be dumb! haha

[BlueLight]

:confused:

from Today show website today:

"As a legend in her own time, with over 50 years in the music business, Dolly Parton could be forgiven if she wanted to rest on her laurels. Instead, the country music singer, songwriter and actress has just released her 42nd album, "Blue Smoke," and is in the middle of a world tour. During a visit to TODAY Tuesday, Parton said she won't be slowing down anytime soon."

:shrug:

Her output is truly impressive. I listened to "Blue "Smoke" last week on NPR - it's an excellent album - in many ways a return to form for Dolly.

[Bandon]

I've never been much into re-recorded old album tracks, but I wouldn't mind Dave giving "Smile at You" at try. I'm hoping a version produced by Dave and Stevie makes it on the album or at least a b-side or onto a movie soundtrack.

[wheart]

I've never been much into re-recorded old album tracks, but I wouldn't mind Dave giving "Smile at You" at try. I'm hoping a version produced by Dave and Stevie makes it on the album or at least a b-side or onto a movie soundtrack.

while we're on the subject, I would love Running Through The Garden redone by Dave.

[pauls90]

I just still struggle to see why anyone wants Dave to have ANYTHING thing to do with her songs in general.

[Bandon]

I just still struggle to see why anyone wants Dave to have ANYTHING thing to do with her songs in general.

Case in point...."Annabel Lee" :nod:

[BlueLight]

Case in point...."Annabel Lee" :nod:

I'd add "Moonlight" as another great example of Dave's handiwork with an old demo. :thumbsup:

[diane_k]

Dolly Parton is not the same thing as Stevie Nicks.

Dolly Parton isn't the same thing as anyone, and that's part of her wide appeal.

Dolly writes SOME of her own songs, maybe more than half, depending on the theme of the album. However, she mostly does covers and sings songs written by other people. Stevie SELDOM records a song written by someone else.

Dolly has written over 3000 songs. There have been a few albums (out of 42) that have mainly been covers, and she might throw a cover or two on the others, but there has to be somewhere for those 3000 songs to go.

One could also state, and I think even Dolly Parton would agree, that what Dolly records is mostly "Crap" for the sake of "crap" and putting something out. A lot of Dolly's albums are throw away crap. Crap crap crap. No staying power. Dated. Drivel. AND I LIKE Dolly Parton.

Please listen to The Grass is Blue, Halos and Horns, Backwoods Barbie, and Just Because I'm a Woman for starters, and rethink that one :cool:

[michelej1]

Case in point...."Annabel Lee" :nod:

Oh I'd come down on the other side. I'm not really happy with Annabel Lee. I don't dislike it, but it could use different editing, I think. Annabel Lee would not make me trust him with the meandering RTTG.

Michele

[StreetAngel86]

Case in point...."Annabel Lee" :nod:

** projectile vomiting**

:xoxo:

listen to the TISL version. it is the ONLY version
same with My Heart.
Dave, stay away.

[Johnny Stew]

Dolly Parton isn't a good comparison. It would be more accurate to compare Stevie to other artists who've juggled solo careers and band membership fairly concurrently. Which is pretty rare.

For example, Don Henley and Glenn Frey recorded 7 studio albums with The Eagles over the past 42 years, and have recorded 5 solo albums each. Despite a large gap in time when the Eagles were disbanded. Based on similar eras, genres, and fan-bases, their careers are probably the closest analogy to Stevie's.

[Macfanforever]

We have all been wondering what Stevie is up to in Nashville the past week...Unlike with the "IYD" sessions Dave has not tweeted any real details about the events going on...On Saturday (4/26) Mick attended a Jenny Boyd book signing at The Grove and our own "Hello Monster" was in attendance and this is from the transcription of what took place...



So I looks like we may be getting a new Stevie solo album before a new Mac album (how great is this!!! )...
Before everyone goes crazy about Stevie recording in Nashville remember this is where Dave goes when he record his records and when Dave records in Nashville at Blackbird his records are started and finished in 2 weeks...Another thing to keep in mind is that just because Stevie is recording in Nashville at Blackbird it doesn't mean she's making a "country"album...Now that Mick has let the proverbial cat out of the bag let's hope Dave let's us in on what's going on...

I wish it was a country record.LOL..

I'm still shocked and caught off guard with this awesome news about Stevie is recording a solo record.

[michelej1]

[Martina mentions Stevie in this interview]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/23498546/country-meets-soul/

McBride plays a hands-on role in running the studio with her husband, who engineered the album's tracks.

"Blackbird Studios are so busy it's hard to keep up with who is booked in at any one time," she explains. "Stevie Nicks is there at the moment recording her new album. And Keith Urban has recorded a lot of his music there."

[BombaySapphire3]

[Martina mentions Stevie in this interview]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/23498546/country-meets-soul/

McBride plays a hands-on role in running the studio with her husband, who engineered the album's tracks.

"Blackbird Studios are so busy it's hard to keep up with who is booked in at any one time," she explains. "Stevie Nicks is there at the moment recording her new album. And Keith Urban has recorded a lot of his music there."

Hate to see Stevie mentioned in the same sentence as Keith Urban ..his music is abysmal.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Stevie Nicks BMI ICON awards AP interview http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/US-Stevie-Nicks/611da16279cf74783f28d2ec00c42d8b?query=US+Stevie+Nicks&current=9&orderBy=Relevance&hits=57&referrer=search&search=%2Fsearch%3Fstartd%3D%26endd%3D%26allFilters%3D%26query%3DUS%2BStevie%2BNicks%26advsearchStar tDateFilter%3D%26advsearchEndDateFilter%3D%26searchFilterHdSDFormat%3DAll%26searchFilterDigitized%3D All%26searchFiltercolorFormat%3DAll%26searchFilteraspectratioFormat%3DAll&allFilters&productType=IncludedProducts&page=1&b=c42d8b

Stevie Nicks on the material for her upcoming solo album:

"We went on to YouTube and we found all the songs that, somehow, were taken from my house or picked up or loaned out or whatever, and we picked up all the songs that like -- there was like 25 songs that the fans really wanted me to record, and we picked 18. And we went to Nashville and we recorded 17 songs. So they're like all starting from like 1969 maybe? I call them my 24-carat gold songs

There's a solo album on the way, with 17 so-called "trunk" songs -- things Nicks had written and, in some cases, performed over the years that fans requested be properly recorded and put into an album. A new Fleetwood Mac album is coming, too, as well as a big Mac tour, beginning 30 September in Minneapolis.

[On Ice]

This is great news and very excited to hear what songs she has recorded. Even if she never wrote another song, there's enough material in the vault that would fill several albums and most likely many more that have never been leaked. I liked her last album and glad to hear she's working with Dave again.

[wheart]

Stevie Nicks BMI ICON awards AP interview http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/US...age=1&b=c42d8b

Stevie Nicks on the material for her upcoming solo album:

"We went on to YouTube and we found all the songs that, somehow, were taken from my house or picked up or loaned out or whatever, and we picked up all the songs that like -- there was like 25 songs that the fans really wanted me to record, and we picked 18. And we went to Nashville and we recorded 17 songs. So they're like all starting from like 1969 maybe? I call them my 24-carat gold songs

There's a solo album on the way, with 17 so-called "trunk" songs -- things Nicks had written and, in some cases, performed over the years that fans requested be properly recorded and put into an album. A new Fleetwood Mac album is coming, too, as well as a big Mac tour, beginning 30 September in Minneapolis.

is this for real? I'm having trouble believing my eyes. Maybe I should listen to the audio..perhaps that may alleviate my skepticism.

[BlueLight]

Stevie Nicks BMI ICON awards AP interview http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/US...age=1&b=c42d8b

Stevie Nicks on the material for her upcoming solo album:

"We went on to YouTube and we found all the songs that, somehow, were taken from my house or picked up or loaned out or whatever, and we picked up all the songs that like -- there was like 25 songs that the fans really wanted me to record, and we picked 18. And we went to Nashville and we recorded 17 songs. So they're like all starting from like 1969 maybe? I call them my 24-carat gold songs

There's a solo album on the way, with 17 so-called "trunk" songs -- things Nicks had written and, in some cases, performed over the years that fans requested be properly recorded and put into an album. A new Fleetwood Mac album is coming, too, as well as a big Mac tour, beginning 30 September in Minneapolis.

Too good to be true! So thrilled that she's doing this. :blob2:

[BlueLight]

I call them my 24-carat gold songs

I wonder if this suggests that she's recording 24 Karat Gold?

[AnthonyMI]

Stevie Nicks BMI ICON awards AP interview http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/US...age=1&b=c42d8b

Stevie Nicks on the material for her upcoming solo album:

"We went on to YouTube and we found all the songs that, somehow, were taken from my house or picked up or loaned out or whatever, and we picked up all the songs that like -- there was like 25 songs that the fans really wanted me to record, and we picked 18. And we went to Nashville and we recorded 17 songs. So they're like all starting from like 1969 maybe? I call them my 24-carat gold songs

There's a solo album on the way, with 17 so-called "trunk" songs -- things Nicks had written and, in some cases, performed over the years that fans requested be properly recorded and put into an album. A new Fleetwood Mac album is coming, too, as well as a big Mac tour, beginning 30 September in Minneapolis.

That link is dead. Until there is proof I call B$LLS&IT!!!



Ok, edit... I found another site with that same soundbite. So... we have verification.

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My head just exploded. THIS IS HUGE NEWS!!!!

[BlueDenimLamp]

That link is dead. Until there is proof I call B$LLS&IT!!!



Ok, edit... I found another site with that same soundbite. So... we have verification.

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BOOOOOOOM

My head just exploded. THIS IS HUGE NEWS!!!!

The link is not dead...http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/US-Stevie-Nicks/611da16279cf74783f28d2ec00c42d8b?query=US+Stevie+Nicks&current=9&orderBy=Relevance&hits=57&referrer=search&search=%2Fsearch%3Fstartd%3D%26endd%3D%26allFilters%3D%26query%3DUS%2BStevie%2BNicks%26advsearchStar tDateFilter%3D%26advsearchEndDateFilter%3D%26searchFilterHdSDFormat%3DAll%26searchFilterDigitized%3D All%26searchFiltercolorFormat%3DAll%26searchFilteraspectratioFormat%3DAll&allFilters&productType=IncludedProducts&page=1&b=c42d8b

[wheart]

The link is not dead...http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/US-Stevie-Nicks/611da16279cf74783f28d2ec00c42d8b?query=US+Stevie+Nicks&current=9&orderBy=Relevance&hits=57&referrer=search&search=%2Fsearch%3Fstartd%3D%26endd%3D%26allFilters%3D%26query%3DUS%2BStevie%2BNicks%26advsearchStar tDateFilter%3D%26advsearchEndDateFilter%3D%26searchFilterHdSDFormat%3DAll%26searchFilterDigitized%3D All%26searchFiltercolorFormat%3DAll%26searchFilteraspectratioFormat%3DAll&allFilters&productType=IncludedProducts&page=1&b=c42d8b


along with Christine coming back, this is also something I never, ever thought would happen. Wow.

[BombaySapphire3]

I actually think Dave could do something cool with Julia...

[Richard B]

I actually think Dave could do something cool with Julia...

Julia doesn't need cool. It is a fully realized song and needs nothing except to be released as it is.

[BombaySapphire3]

Julia doesn't need cool. It is a fully realized song and needs nothing except to be released as it is.

I don't believe that all these vault songs are going to be released as they are..Juila was pretty much fully produced by Iovine who did not like the song.Of course there is no guarantee that it will be on the album but IMO is the best of her songs that have never seen an official release yet.

[Johnny Stew]

I'd absolutely love if Stevie re-recorded "Julia" for this album. I love the flavor her latter-day voice adds to these old songs. I do still hope, however, that the 'Bella Donna' era outtake of "Julia" someday finds a home on a remastered edition.

This is very exciting news all around. I'm so thrilled! Years ago when my ex and I would "talk Stevie," I had a wishlist of things I had hoped she'd do over the next several years. I wanted a new album, a live DVD, a collection of her "vaulted" songs, and a DVD of her videos. They came in a different order, and slower than I might have hoped, but how cool that every one of them will ultimately have been checked off.

[bombaysaffires]

They did 17 songs in 12 days or whatever it was ? (I'm too lazy to go back and verify how long they were in the studio in Nashville). Hmm…..

I wonder if she will tweak any of the old songs the way she did with Lady from the Mountain/ Moonlight. Not sure how I feel about that…though some of them were incomplete….

I just pray this isn't one of those "be careful what you wish for…" events

[Macfanforever]

I'm so happy that she raided her vaults and pull out those demos.

[vivfox]

Recording these demos is wonderful news to my ears. Wouldn't it be great if she included a companion CD with the same songs in their demo form?

[KarmaContestant]

The link is not dead...http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/US-Stevie-Nicks/611da16279cf74783f28d2ec00c42d8b?query=US+Stevie+Nicks&current=9&orderBy=Relevance&hits=57&referrer=search&search=%2Fsearch%3Fstartd%3D%26endd%3D%26allFilters%3D%26query%3DUS%2BStevie%2BNicks%26advsearchStar tDateFilter%3D%26advsearchEndDateFilter%3D%26searchFilterHdSDFormat%3DAll%26searchFilterDigitized%3D All%26searchFiltercolorFormat%3DAll%26searchFilteraspectratioFormat%3DAll&allFilters&productType=IncludedProducts&page=1&b=c42d8b

Thanks!

I'm giddy. This is...like...amazing news.

[KarmaContestant]

Recording these demos is wonderful news to my ears. Wouldn't it be great if she included a companion CD with the same songs in their demo form?

YES! :] I'd lose my mind.

[BlueDenimLamp]

They did 17 songs in 12 days or whatever it was ? (I'm too lazy to go back and verify how long they were in the studio in Nashville). Hmm…..

I wonder if she will tweak any of the old songs the way she did with Lady from the Mountain/ Moonlight. Not sure how I feel about that…though some of them were incomplete….

I just pray this isn't one of those "be careful what you wish for…" events

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>15 songs down still working , all sounding great , classic Stevie Nicks <a href="http://t.co/O3RMCNUa4b">http://t.co/O3RMCNUa4b</a></p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461940450782617600">May 1, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Here is Dave's tweet...notice he said "Classic Stevie Nicks" which makes more sense now...They were in Nashville for about 2 weeks...

[BlueLight]

I'm curious to see how may songs were actually cut. In the AP interview, Stevie suggested that they recorded 17 out of the 18 songs they brought to Nashville. But in her acceptance speech, she noted that they recorded all 18 songs.

[nightbird28]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en data-scribe-reduced-action-queue="><p>working with Ann Marie Calhoun on string parts for Stevie Nicks today . <a href="http://t.co/ymBwKJT894">http://t.co/ymBwKJT894</a></p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/463733554602467328">May 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Loved the String arrangements on IYD!:blob2:

[bombaysaffires]

Recording these demos is wonderful news to my ears. Wouldn't it be great if she included a companion CD with the same songs in their demo form?…….

^YES!

[Macfanforever]

I'm wondering what does not make it on her solo album will go to FM's album.The leftovers.

[Macfanforever]

Recording these demos is wonderful news to my ears. Wouldn't it be great if she included a companion CD with the same songs in their demo form?

I agree...........

[bombaysaffires]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>15 songs down still working , all sounding great , classic Stevie Nicks <a href="http://t.co/O3RMCNUa4b">http://t.co/O3RMCNUa4b</a></p>&mdash; Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461940450782617600">May 1, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Here is Dave's tweet...notice he said "Classic Stevie Nicks" which makes more sense now...They were in Nashville for about 2 weeks...

I just don't think Dave, no matter how good, can work out arrangements for that many songs that fast. Leads me to think that Stevie and crew had culled the songs earlier, and given them to Dave-- or just the links to youtube!-- and he had time to listen to them, come up with ideas, maybe even rough out (or more) some/all of the arrangements and get some basic music tracks down (drums/piano/guitar) and then got Stevie in to do vocals during those two weeks.

Fourteen days (give or take) to work out from the ground up 18 songs is just too much..

Once her vocal stuff is done, he can keep fiddling with the tracks, adding layers.

In any event, we are getting potentially lots of new Stevie music, so however they made it work is good :shrug:

[sorcerer999]

I'm curious to see how may songs were actually cut. In the AP interview, Stevie suggested that they recorded 17 out of the 18 songs they brought to Nashville. But in her acceptance speech, she noted that they recorded all 18 songs.

Stevie has the memory of a Goldfish sometimes. And she embellishes A LOT! I'm going with Dave Stewart's tweet and say that they probably really recorded just 15 songs.

[sorcerer999]

But then again, he said, "15 songs and STILL WORKING" so maybe they did do two or three more.

[nicole21290]

Thought this would be the best place to add this. Jessi Nicks updated her Instagram seven hours ago thusly:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/b51c2eaf3f881faa51182b2cabb93787_zps82e56068.jpg

[louielouie2000]

^Interesting. So that would suggest Stevie is still recording at her home. That's definitely the staircase at her house. I wonder how much was really completed in Nashville, and what ends need to be tied up back in LA? :shrug:

[BlueDenimLamp]

^Interesting. So that would suggest Stevie is still recording at her home. That's definitely the staircase at her house. I wonder how much was really completed in Nashville, and what ends need to be tied up back in LA? :shrug:

I don't remember hearing that "the girls" were at Blackbird doing backing vocals so that's one of many loose ends they may be tying up at Stevie's house/studio...

[elle]

15 songs!!! :blob2: Well, that should shut up all the naysayers who've claimed Stevie had no material! I doubt that all these 15 songs were composed in under 2 weeks! Steve fans have known that she's been writing new stuff back in 2012.
I keep hoping that Dave releases a snippet ala "Everybody Loves You" when he did in Feb. 2010 to whet our appetite! So excited! Stevie you're a force!!

i thought i'd bump the post above, being singled out numerous times as one of the naysayers - it nicely goes together with some thoughts people have expressed in this thread so far: :angel:

On the one hand, this is pretty cool because her demos are beloved among fans and it's kind of awesome that she realized that and is recording them. If they turn out well, this could be great, and something really nice to have.

However... on the other hand... one of the reasons I was so shocked/excited about the new album was because I couldn't believe that she had been writing that much. And now it turns out she hasn't and it's all old songs. Additionally, all of those songs were written when she had a very different vocal timbre and range so it will be interesting to see if she just goes for it vocally or if she alters them to fit her current voice. And there's a bit of a risk factor either way in that regard. So I don't know, I have mixed feelings.

Yeah, that was my initial reaction as well. Sadness that she didn't have anything new to share with the world. However, maybe she's just cleaning out all of the old material so she'll have a clean slate of new material to bring to the upcoming Mac album?

I feel the same way about all of this, but let's hope for the best. There are so many of her demos that I absolutely adore...

i can see how much enjoyment fleshing out the old promising songs can bring to fans, and it makes me happy you all will be able to get this. (yes, i would love to see demos like Deep Dense and Given Thing come to life on a proper release; however i do want to hear new music from my guy first, to see where he is currently, artistically.)

maybe this album is a way to get whatever SN still owed to WB out of the way in the fastest way possible. even if she did start on this route with Without You as her contribution to FM. plus the whole box sets of old demos and unreleased songs is something many older artists do, in between other projects, and something their fans can cherish and anybody wishing to learn about their artistic process can study. :nod:

[jkmaletic]

i thought i'd bump the post above, being singled out numerous times as one of the naysayers - it nicely goes together with some thoughts people have expressed in this thread so far: :angel:







i can see how much enjoyment fleshing out the old promising songs can bring to fans, and it makes me happy you all will be able to get this. (yes, i would love to see demos like Deep Dense and Given Thing come to life on a proper release; however i do want to hear new music from my guy first, to see where he is currently, artistically.)

maybe this album is a way to get whatever SN still owed to WB out of the way in the fastest way possible. even if she did start on this route with Without You as her contribution to FM. plus the whole box sets of old demos and unreleased songs is something many older artists do, in between other projects, and something their fans can cherish and anybody wishing to learn about their artistic process can study. :nod:

She's probably also figuring, why not? :shrug:

Every single Stevie Q & A event I went to the past couple years someone brought up doing/finishing the demos. She even mentioned in the recent BMI interviews that she was doing it because fans had brought it up. So there's that too. I suppose that it also fits in nicely with the time frame she currently has along with her record contract commitments. It's a win-win.

The only thing that bugs me is that it will be released in the middle of a Mac tour, which will give her little time to promote it. :cool: But as someone said on another thread, maybe just the exposure alone of the tour will help.

Jamie

[Phil]

I'd be surprised if Steve actually recorded any vocals in Nashville - I reckon that only the instrumentation was laid down during that period. She has previously spoken about the great sound that was achieved when recording her vocals near the staircase of her home for the IYD album so perhaps that's the next part of the process?

[AnthonyMI]

They also could have done the music live in one studio with Stevie behind another booth on an isolated track and singing along, and they are redoing the vocals and dubbing them over. This is common and I think is how BellaDonna and Rumours were done.

[nightbird28]

There's an article on ultimate classic rock .com that says she will be finishing up the album in LA before the Mac goes on the road.

[bombaysaffires]

They also could have done the music live in one studio with Stevie behind another booth on an isolated track and singing along, and they are redoing the vocals and dubbing them over. This is common and I think is how BellaDonna and Rumours were done.

I agree. And frankly Stevie doesn't often get a full vocal from start to finish in a single take. A lot of them are compilations of bits from various takes. And she layers her vocals, adds harmonies and then all the girls' vocals etc. She doesn't need a big studio for that work nor to pay a bunch of musicians to hang around.

[AnthonyMI]

I agree. And frankly Stevie doesn't often get a full vocal from start to finish in a single take. A lot of them are compilations of bits from various takes. And she layers her vocals, adds harmonies and then all the girls' vocals etc. She doesn't need a big studio for that work nor to pay a bunch of musicians to hang around.

And each instrument is likely miced by itself as well. Then if they want to bring it up in the mix, eliminate it, or redub it altogether they can in post production and mixing. BUT i have a feeling this album will be most "done" already if she is already doing vocal overdubs.

[KarmaContestant]

Today I listened to In Your Dreams for the first time in a long time, all the way through, and I'm so impressed with Dave's treatment of Stevie's songs. Annabel Lee in particular - I love how true to the demo he stayed.

Also, Stevie's vocals are so good - the best vocals she's recorded, really, since The Other Side of the Mirror. Her Street Angel vocals are strong, but tired sounding. Her Shangri La vocals are a bit monotone overall, though there are some great moments in each track. Every track on In Your Dreams (except the dreary Soldier's Angel) features an enthusiastic vocal from Stevie, and shows her zeal and love for the album.

I feel really good about 24 Karat Gold, no matter the tracklisting, and my life-long love of Stevie's music feels very refreshed right now.

[sorcerer999]

They also could have done the music live in one studio with Stevie behind another booth on an isolated track and singing along, and they are redoing the vocals and dubbing them over. This is common and I think is how BellaDonna and Rumours were done.

Right. This is called a "scratch vocal" and a lot of vocalists do this while the rest of the band is tracking each take. It helps them with the change ups ~ when a verse goes into the chorus, bridge, etc. If Stevie did anything in Nashville, it was probably this, as well as overseeing how the musicianship of each song took shape.

[wheart]

Today I listened to In Your Dreams for the first time in a long time, all the way through, and I'm so impressed with Dave's treatment of Stevie's songs. Annabel Lee in particular - I love how true to the demo he stayed.

Also, Stevie's vocals are so good - the best vocals she's recorded, really, since The Other Side of the Mirror. Her Street Angel vocals are strong, but tired sounding. Her Shangri La vocals are a bit monotone overall, though there are some great moments in each track. Every track on In Your Dreams (except the dreary Soldier's Angel) features an enthusiastic vocal from Stevie, and shows her zeal and love for the album.

I feel really good about 24 Karat Gold, no matter the tracklisting, and my life-long love of Stevie's music feels very refreshed right now.

Nicely put!! I revisited IYD just the other night and thoroughly enjoyed it, though I still listen to it on a fairly regular basis. I really love how Dave produced each song very differently, so each one is unique and sounds fresh. Italian Summer always puts a smile on my face!

[KarmaContestant]

Nicely put!! I revisited IYD just the other night and thoroughly enjoyed it, though I still listen to it on a fairly regular basis. I really love how Dave produced each song very differently, so each one is unique and sounds fresh. Italian Summer always puts a smile on my face!

I absolutely *love* that song. It's one of my favorites from her, ever, right up there with Dreams or Gypsy or Edge of Seventeen.

[BlueLight]

Today I listened to In Your Dreams for the first time in a long time, all the way through, and I'm so impressed with Dave's treatment of Stevie's songs. Annabel Lee in particular - I love how true to the demo he stayed.

Also, Stevie's vocals are so good - the best vocals she's recorded, really, since The Other Side of the Mirror. Her Street Angel vocals are strong, but tired sounding. Her Shangri La vocals are a bit monotone overall, though there are some great moments in each track. Every track on In Your Dreams (except the dreary Soldier's Angel) features an enthusiastic vocal from Stevie, and shows her zeal and love for the album.

I feel really good about 24 Karat Gold, no matter the tracklisting, and my life-long love of Stevie's music feels very refreshed right now.

Couldn't have said it better. IYD is such a well-constructed album, and I cannot wait to see what form 24 Karat Gold takes.

[wheart]

I absolutely *love* that song. It's one of my favorites from her, ever, right up there with Dreams or Gypsy or Edge of Seventeen.

Absolutely!! It's one of those songs I never, ever get tired of hearing. Pure magic!!

[sodascouts]

"Italian Summer" is my favorite from that album as well, with "Wide Sargasso Sea" coming in second.

I honestly have never been impressed with "Annabel Lee" but that's not Dave's fault. The song was unimpressive from the outset. He's not my top choice for a producer but I can't complain about the output level he seems to enable.

[BombaySapphire3]

I think Dave and Glen worked wonders with Secret Love...I don't think that the song was on anyone's short list of demos that they wanted Stevie to officially record So it does make me optimistic for some of the demos that a lot of us think are better songs..

[sorcerer999]

I think Dave and Glen worked wonders with Secret Love...I don't think that the song was on anyone's short list of demos that they wanted Stevie to officially record So it does make me optimistic for some of the demos that a lot of us think are better songs..

Totally agree! I used to downright LOATHE the demo of "Secret Love". Still do, actually. But when I heard the "new" version, complete with a great vocal by Miss Nicks, I really enjoyed it! I'm glad Dave and company turned such a boring song into a gem.

Maybe he could do something wonderful to "Lilly Girl" then? Hahaha! Or is that one hopeless? ;)

[StreetAngel86]

Maybe he could do something wonderful to "Lilly Girl" then? Hahaha! Or is that one hopeless? ;)


I'd rather he "fix" Dial the Number over Lily Girl tbh :nod:
keep it sad and moody but with less sax :laugh:

[AliceLover]

Totally agree! I used to downright LOATHE the demo of "Secret Love". Still do, actually. But when I heard the "new" version, complete with a great vocal by Miss Nicks, I really enjoyed it! I'm glad Dave and company turned such a boring song into a gem.

Maybe he could do something wonderful to "Lilly Girl" then? Hahaha! Or is that one hopeless? ;)

"Secret Love" is the only song I still consistently listen to from IYD. I think it might even be in my top 10 favorite Stevie songs.

[elle]

I'd rather he "fix" Dial the Number over Lily Girl tbh :nod:
keep it sad and moody but with less sax :laugh:

ha! Dave Stewart's biggest (i guess only, really) hit song ever without Annie Lennox was Lily Was Here prominently featuring Candy Dulfer on sax. full circle people, right there!!

[StreetAngel86]

ha! Dave Stewart's biggest (i guess only, really) hit song ever without Annie Lennox was Lily Was Here prominently featuring Candy Dulfer on sax. full circle people, right there!!

I will DESTROY him :laugh::laugh::laugh:
he prob feels connected to the song and demanded she include it for that reason :p
I'd still like a new version of this.

[BlueDenimLamp]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart">@DaveStewart</a> we had a blast helping in a small way on this record.thanks for having us!</p>&mdash; Vinnie Ciesielski (@TrumpetVinnie) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrumpetVinnie/statuses/467737134594392064">May 17, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wonder is any of these songs will have horns on them...

[Jondalar]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart">@DaveStewart</a> we had a blast helping in a small way on this record.thanks for having us!</p>&mdash; Vinnie Ciesielski (@TrumpetVinnie) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrumpetVinnie/statuses/467737134594392064">May 17, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wonder is any of these songs will have horns on them...

I hope there is rock on this album.

[vivfox]

Wonder is any of these songs will have horns on them...

The dreaded Kenny G related demos had horns on them.:laugh:

[sorcerer999]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart">@DaveStewart</a> we had a blast helping in a small way on this record.thanks for having us!</p>&mdash; Vinnie Ciesielski (@TrumpetVinnie) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrumpetVinnie/statuses/467737134594392064">May 17, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wonder is any of these songs will have horns on them...

NICE! I love me some trumpet on a good rock song, or even a string and horn ballad. R.E.M.'s "Finest Worksong" with trumpets on "Eponymous" was pretty awesome. Rufus Wainwright's trumpets on "The Consort" and "Slideshow" made those ballads amazing and goosebumpy (yes, I'm making up words now).

Can anyone else think of any Stevie song that have had some nice horns (meaning trumpets and French horns ~ NOT saxophone)?

[BlueDenimLamp]

NICE! I love me some trumpet on a good rock song, or even a string and horn ballad. R.E.M.'s "Finest Worksong" with trumpets on "Eponymous" was pretty awesome. Rufus Wainwright's trumpets on "The Consort" and "Slideshow" made those ballads amazing and goosebumpy (yes, I'm making up words now).

Can anyone else think of any Stevie song that have had some nice horns (meaning trumpets and French horns ~ NOT saxophone)?

"Whole Lotta Trouble"

[pattyfan]

Sorry to be negative, but I hate horns in rock music. I'm not a fan of Whole Lotta Trouble. But who knows, maybe Stevie'll surprise me.

Kevin

[louielouie2000]

Sorry to be negative, but I hate horns in rock music. I'm not a fan of Whole Lotta Trouble. But who knows, maybe Stevie'll surprise me.

Kevin

I generally agree with you- stuff like Chicago's music doesn't really do much for me. However, there are some instances where horns in pop/rock music can be pulled off. There's a song called Control on Broken Bells new album After The Disco which has a brass solo at the end, and it works. It still kind of surprises me Stevie didn't incorporate any horns into New Orleans since that city is known for Jazz, but I guess she decided not to go that literal.

[Jondalar]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart">@DaveStewart</a> we had a blast helping in a small way on this record.thanks for having us!</p>&mdash; Vinnie Ciesielski (@TrumpetVinnie) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrumpetVinnie/statuses/467737134594392064">May 17, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wonder is any of these songs will have horns on them...

How Dave handles horns. Probably like this.

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[pattyfan]

I just remember hearing Pack Up the Plantation, Tom Petty's first live recording. He had just make Southern Accents, which had some horns on it (which I didn't mind, since they fit with the songs), but on that tour he had a horn section and he added them to some of his great rock songs, and that totally ruined those live versions for me. Anyway, I don't want to belabor my point. I'm happy that Stevie is doing this and as long as there aren't horns on a majority of the songs, it will be fine :)

Kevin

[BlueDenimLamp]

I just remember hearing Pack Up the Plantation, Tom Petty's first live recording. He had just make Southern Accents, which had some horns on it (which I didn't mind, since they fit with the songs), but on that tour he had a horn section and he added them to some of his great rock songs, and that totally ruined those live versions for me. Anyway, I don't want to belabor my point. I'm happy that Stevie is doing this and as long as there aren't horns on a majority of the songs, it will be fine :)

Kevin

One of the benefits of working in Nashville is that if you want something all you have to do is ask and minutes later it (horns) shows up...It could be the Dave said "I wonder how it would sound with horns" so they were called in...Just because they had some horns in the studio it doesn't mean they (horns) will be prominently featured...The tweeter (Vinnie Ciesielski ) said they helped in a small way so by the time the final mix on the record is done the horns might be barely noticeable or they might not make the final cut at all...

Once again it's funny how a stray tweet has put everyone in a panic...

[Macfanforever]

+1 on horns.

I must be an outcast here LOL .I love 1980's horns and synth in my music.

[TrueFaith77]

Horns are ALWAYS a good thing.

[Macfanforever]

The next step is bring out the banjos and the steel guitars and Charlie Daniels on the fiddle.LOL....

[louielouie2000]

Once again it's funny how a stray tweet has put everyone in a panic...

...coming from the person who believed the April Fool's joke that Jimmy Iovene was leaving Beats Music to reunite Tom Petty & Stevie Nicks for a new album. Stones in glass houses.

[sorcerer999]

Once again it's funny how a stray tweet has put everyone in a panic...

I don't think the tweet put anyone in a "panic". People are just giving us their opinion/preference on horns.

...coming from the person who believed the April Fool's joke that Jimmy Iovene was leaving Beats Music to reunite Tom Petty & Stevie Nicks for a new album. Stones in glass houses.

Now be nice, Louie. ;)

[michelej1]

I don't think the tweet put anyone in a "panic". People are just giving us their opinion/preference on horns.



A tweet about the album from Kenny G might put people in a panic.

Michele

[sorcerer999]

A tweet about the album from Kenny G might put people in a panic.

Michele

Hahahaha! Agreed!!! :nod:

[Johnny Stew]

A panic?? A tweet from Kenny G. might result in mass suicide!

[Jondalar]

I have a feeling this is going to be a good album. Stevie gets good karma for doing this.

[BlueLight]

I have a feeling this is going to be a good album. Stevie gets good karma for doing this.

Agreed. I think it's going to be pretty special. ;)

[tilthefirefades]

I haven't posted in forever, but I just want to say that if Mirror Mirror, Something Exquisite, All the Beautiful Worlds, or most importantly my favorite She Still Loves Him makes it onto this I will be so so so happy.

I am nervous though because I really can't stand Dave Stewart and I imagine something dreadful like Night Gallery will appear.

[BombaySapphire3]

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I am nervous though because I really can't stand Dave Stewart and I imagine something dreadful like Night Gallery will appear.

Night Gallery wasn't that bad..I love the episode where Joan Crawford plays a blind ,manipulative,imperious ,predatory dowager.

[Jondalar]

I haven't posted in forever, but I just want to say that if Mirror Mirror, Something Exquisite, All the Beautiful Worlds, or most importantly my favorite She Still Loves Him makes it onto this I will be so so so happy.

I am nervous though because I really can't stand Dave Stewart and I imagine something dreadful like Night Gallery will appear.

Why are people mentioning Mirror Mirror? She has already done that song. It would be a great waste of space.

[tilthefirefades]

Why are people mentioning Mirror Mirror? She has already done that song. It would be a great waste of space.

Because it's awesome and a perfect example of why I'm a Stevie fanatic? :shrug:

And how has she already done that song? The SA version is just a polished turd compared to the potential of what a fully realized modern take on it could be.

[welcomechris]

I haven't posted in forever, but I just want to say that if Mirror Mirror, Something Exquisite, All the Beautiful Worlds, or most importantly my favorite She Still Loves Him makes it onto this I will be so so so happy.

I am nervous though because I really can't stand Dave Stewart and I imagine something dreadful like Night Gallery will appear.

Mirror Mirror was released as a b side

Only the millionth time i've said it on the ledge

[wheart]

I haven't posted in forever, but I just want to say that if Mirror Mirror, Something Exquisite, All the Beautiful Worlds, or most importantly my favorite She Still Loves Him makes it onto this I will be so so so happy.

I am nervous though because I really can't stand Dave Stewart and I imagine something dreadful like Night Gallery will appear.

Oh Man. She Loves Him Still is in my top 5 favs of Stevie demos. I don't think it will make the record but I really wish it would. But part of the reason I love it is because of her fragile, broken vocal. Not sure if I would love it as much with her current voice. Mirror Mirror, on the other hand, I think she could totally nail. I know it's been released already but she could redo it, if she and Dave both felt strongly enough. I don't think anything is off the table for this record.

[KarmaContestant]

Because it's awesome and a perfect example of why I'm a Stevie fanatic? :shrug:

And how has she already done that song? The SA version is just a polished turd compared to the potential of what a fully realized modern take on it could be.

As others have said, a 1985 recording of Mirror Mirror made during the sessions for Rock A Little was released as the b-side for Blue Denim, on cassette only, in 1994. It is not a Street Angel version. It is the RAL version. It's as perfect and cocaine-fueled as this song will ever get. Stevie will never top that vocal, or create more atmosphere for the song than she did here.

The only Street Angel version of Mirror Mirror is an unreleased recording circulating amongst fans, first shared here on The Ledge.

They are very, very different recordings.