View Full Version : Stevie Recording A New Album With Dave Stewart Producing In Nashville...
sorcerer999
07-17-2014, 01:17 PM
There is a Facebook group called Ivory Keys (run by Mike Bise) and there is a girl on there named Marcy who apparently confirmed all this...I'll quote two of her posts below
Marcy Austin-John wants me to tell you Reprise Records did in fact confirm the track listing yesterday for Stevie Nicks's new record. Just an FYI
Marcy Austin Quoting my assistant, "You can't get an official release of that until they make that publicly available. But for the one song, it will be Priest of Nothing or something like that. Maybe slight variance on it like how Sweet Street Angel was finalized Street Angel not sure. Status should be public now."
Sooooooo...I'm really confused now and not sure whether the track listing is accurate or still bogus.
saintbernard
07-17-2014, 01:29 PM
While this is a list of mostly good choices, some I'm not pleased about. However, I have to add my name to the list of skeptics here.
Mike Bise has said many times that he created the name "Priest of Nothing" for that song because he didn't know what the name really was and thought that his name fit it. I'm sure what he has said about naming it is still around here somewhere in the thread where he shared both takes of the song with everyone. If Stevie were to include this song on one of her records it would be a bit odd seeing as how Joe Walsh has already released this song himself (minus her lyrics, of course). There would be legal issues to work out and there would always be the chance that Joe Walsh would flatly refuse Stevie the right to use it. As fast as this project has come together, I can't see this song being an option.
And, how many years did the fans circulate "No Light" and "The Tower" only to find out both had completely different names? It wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn the song Mike chose to name "Priest of Nothing" has a name that is amazingly different.
I was under the impression these songs were chosen from demos and outtakes the fans have had for a while and "Turnstile 69" is either something we've never heard, which wouldn't fit the "fan favorites" theme or an outlandish title for something we have had for years and know well under another name. If it's the latter, there's not a single demo or outtake I can think of that that title would fit in the least.
With titles like "Julia" and "The Dealer", as popular as they are with fans curiously absent from this "leak" and odd titles like "Priest of Nothing", "Turnstile 69" "First, Second and Third Rhiannon" and "My Sanctuary, My Stronghold" included, I can't really believe this is a legitimate list.
If Dave had posted this list on his Facebook page or tweeted them, I'd be fine with it (although I'd still have to wonder why in the world "Priest of Nothing" got a nod). But since it appeared on Wikipedia which allows anyone to come along and add content doesn't convince me in the least. The fact it is no longer there speaks even more to me. Dave or anyone close to Stevie could have had that false leak pulled. A valid track listing can do a lot to help build interest for a record and Dave knows that. False information will only lead to someone being disappointed when a song they were excited about from that misinformation didn't make the cut. Dave knows that as well.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here but IYD was the only Stevie record fans didn't end up finding a wealth of unreleased material from. He's been secretive with 24KG now like he was with IYD. As close as Dave holds his work I think the official track listing will come from him or from the label. So I'm afraid I will not be getting worked up over anything until I see official word from Stevie or Dave.
saradorna
07-17-2014, 02:14 PM
I don't want to add to the uncertainty but I notice a comment in this Dave Stewart photo: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152126466392133&set=a.10150176222057133.299167.12134457132&type=1&theater
someone wrote that a friend who does some work for warners told him that Julia and Forest of the Black Roses are in Stevie's new album, but I didn't say anything because it could be someone just making things up. :shrug:
I took and image of the comment so you guys can see it but if you go to the above link you could easily find it.
StevieNicksfann
07-17-2014, 02:17 PM
In terms of fan favorites, I can't believe Julia, If You Were My Love, and The Dealer would be omitted. I am not a fan of this tracklisting unfortunately
GavinBrown
07-17-2014, 02:30 PM
We also need to remember that some may have been omitted in favor of ending up on a new mac cd...
Questionable legitimacy aside, I actually think this tracklisting looks great. If it ends up being the real deal I'll be pleased. Gold and Braid seems like a waste of a slot, but certainly won't be unpleasant and given that there are 15 other tracks I don't feel like I can complain too much. There's a couple in the mix that I'm unfamiliar with, but otherwise it's thumbs up all around on this end.
Keep in mind that this isn't going to be a selection of the best demos, but the best final studio tracks that modern-Stevie can create from old demos. Which simply isn't the same thing. People love the demo of Julia, but it's possible that Dave and co. simply didn't know how to make the song work to their satisfaction in this context.
BombaySapphire3
07-17-2014, 03:07 PM
The more I ruminate about this I'm thinking that this track list is so odd that it just might not be a hoax after all..If I were going to invent a phony one I would try to make it as spectacular as possible with songs like Julia and If You Were my Love which aren't on here.Some of the songs are great on this list with some really bewildering ones as well,Also Stevie did say she was going to do something with her Rhiannon songs at the beginning of the year when someone asked her what she was going to do with her time off so..:shrug:
SpyNote
07-17-2014, 03:13 PM
Are you certain? According to MikeBise, a member here who first shared the song, the tape was unlabled and after several listens he decided to coin it "Priest of Nothing".
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=47577&highlight=Priest
Every single demo that he has shared originated from the reels that were transferred to CD. The stories behind the songs usually originate from somewhere else. He has a very active imagination.
SpyNote
07-17-2014, 03:18 PM
The more I ruminate about this I'm thinking that this track list is so odd that it just might not be a hoax after all..If I were going to invent a phony one I would try to make it as spectacular as possible with songs like Julia and If You Were my Love which aren't on here.Some of the songs are great on this list with some really bewildering ones as well,Also Stevie did say she was going to do something with her Rhiannon songs at the beginning of the year when someone asked her what she was going to do with her time off so..:shrug:
Time will tell. The person will either look like a hero or a fool later.
KarmaContestant
07-17-2014, 03:38 PM
Every single demo that he has shared originated from the reels that were transferred to CD. The stories behind the songs usually originate from somewhere else. He has a very active imagination.
Not Priest of Nothing - it came from the RAL work tapes that were on eBay in 2011, which were cassettes. :shrug:
SpyNote
07-17-2014, 03:44 PM
Not Priest of Nothing - it came from the RAL work tapes that were on eBay in 2011, which were cassettes. :shrug:
Same batch. There were many cassettes that were transferred to CD as well. There are well over 100 CDs of music that were created from the reel sessions.
KarmaContestant
07-17-2014, 03:54 PM
Same batch. There were many cassettes that were transferred to CD as well. There are well over 100 CDs of music that were created from the reel sessions.
Yes, I am aware. But I believe you are mistaken about the RAL work tapes. They were listed on eBay in 2011, many here on the Ledge including myself bid on various items, and others pitched in cash to pay for them. Four items were won - one of them being the "Various SNL Demos" cassette that contained Priest of Nothing, You Like Me, Lady from the Mountain, etc... There was an I Can't Wait work tape, one labeled "Sharon's Tape" and another with mixes of Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You and Imperial Hotel.
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=48008
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=46290
Unless you are telling me that the whole 2011 eBay auction was a sham with several participants and that Mike had those tapes as far back as 2004 when the master reels first hit the scene.
StevieNicksfann
07-17-2014, 04:03 PM
There is a Facebook group called Ivory Keys (run by Mike Bise) and there is a girl on there named Marcy who apparently confirmed all this...I'll quote two of her posts below
Marcy Austin-John wants me to tell you Reprise Records did in fact confirm the track listing yesterday for Stevie Nicks's new record. Just an FYI
Marcy Austin Quoting my assistant, "You can't get an official release of that until they make that publicly available. But for the one song, it will be Priest of Nothing or something like that. Maybe slight variance on it like how Sweet Street Angel was finalized Street Angel not sure. Status should be public now."
Sooooooo...I'm really confused now and not sure whether the track listing is accurate or still bogus.
Marcy's comment was to confirm that Reprise had "a" tracklisting but the songs leaked are not confirmed to be on there or not. So all they said was they had a tracklisting but it could have 16 different songs on them for all we know at this point
gldstwmn
07-17-2014, 04:06 PM
Yes, I am aware. But I believe you are mistaken about the RAL work tapes. They were listed on eBay in 2011, many here on the Ledge including myself bid on various items, and others pitched in cash to pay for them. Four items were won - one of them being the "Various SNL Demos" cassette that contained Priest of Nothing, You Like Me, Lady from the Mountain, etc... There was an I Can't Wait work tape, one labeled "Sharon's Tape" and another with mixes of Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You and Imperial Hotel.
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=48008
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=46290
Unless you are telling me that the whole 2011 eBay auction was a sham with several participants and that Mike had those tapes as far back as 2004 when the master reels first hit the scene.
I find that really hard to believe.
KarmaContestant
07-17-2014, 04:43 PM
I find that really hard to believe.
Well of course, you won one of the casettes. :nod:
This has got me thnking about the tapes that Ledgies didn't get from those 2011 auctions - the work tapes that had She Loves Him Still, Tied Up In Promises, Jimmy Come Back, and so much more.
http://i60.tinypic.com/123mftl.jpg
editme2
07-17-2014, 05:29 PM
Keep in mind that this isn't going to be a selection of the best demos, but the best final studio tracks that modern-Stevie can create from old demos. Which simply isn't the same thing. People love the demo of Julia, but it's possible that Dave and co. simply didn't know how to make the song work to their satisfaction in this context.
Excellent point! People, including myself, forget that Dave, Stevie, and Waddy are going to choose the best current studio versions of these songs. We're not getting the demos we love, necessarily. We're getting the best of Dave's and Stevie's contemporary interpretations of these songs, which may be very different from the original demos.
As for the track listing, who knows? It's so random, yet specific ("Rhiannon's song 1," "Rhiannon's song 2," etc.) that it could actually be legit….I look forward to confirmation.
jkmaletic
07-17-2014, 06:09 PM
Yes, I am aware. But I believe you are mistaken about the RAL work tapes. They were listed on eBay in 2011, many here on the Ledge including myself bid on various items, and others pitched in cash to pay for them. Four items were won - one of them being the "Various SNL Demos" cassette that contained Priest of Nothing, You Like Me, Lady from the Mountain, etc... There was an I Can't Wait work tape, one labeled "Sharon's Tape" and another with mixes of Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You and Imperial Hotel.
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=48008
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=46290
Unless you are telling me that the whole 2011 eBay auction was a sham with several participants and that Mike had those tapes as far back as 2004 when the master reels first hit the scene.
So THAT'S where all those tapes went! Y'all are going to jail!! :laugh:
Just a hunch, but I think this track list is bogus.
Jamie
SameGlassTable
07-17-2014, 06:22 PM
Some points that make me think this track list could be correct .
The fact that "The Dealer" and "If you were my love" are not on it .
Seems like those could be Fleetwood Mac submissions .
The inclusion of the Rhiannon songs in a row .
I feel like this might be her last chance to get these songs out to us.
The names of the songs themselves seem " off "
But in an oddly believable way
Like : "Sanctuary my stronghold ". "the Black space needle "
It's as if a final song title hasn't been decided
Perhaps she will name Sanctuary , "stronghold "
"Space Needle" etc .
"Turnstile 69 " seems like a really strange title if you were trying to fool someone
And we know a song from 1969 is going to be on it .
Maybe it's a way to clarify to whatever executives might listen to it to say hey
This is the 1969 song ... These are the Rhiannon songs
Seems like a very Stevie way to go about things. .
I can't imagine the final track list will be so "wordy "
And cluttered ,
Also I couldn't help but notice so many "colors " being named :
Gold 2x. Black 2x Silver , Blue ..
Johnny Stew
07-17-2014, 06:34 PM
This has got me thnking about the tapes that Ledgies didn't get from those 2011 auctions - the work tapes that had She Loves Him Still, Tied Up In Promises, Jimmy Come Back, and so much more.[/IMG]
My kingdom for clear versions of those three tracks. Especially "She Loves Him Still" and "Jimmy Come On Back."
SpyNote
07-17-2014, 06:58 PM
There is a Facebook group called Ivory Keys (run by Mike Bise) and there is a girl on there named Marcy who apparently confirmed all this...I'll quote two of her posts below
Marcy Austin-John wants me to tell you Reprise Records did in fact confirm the track listing yesterday for Stevie Nicks's new record. Just an FYI
Marcy Austin Quoting my assistant, "You can't get an official release of that until they make that publicly available. But for the one song, it will be Priest of Nothing or something like that. Maybe slight variance on it like how Sweet Street Angel was finalized Street Angel not sure. Status should be public now."
Sooooooo...I'm really confused now and not sure whether the track listing is accurate or still bogus.
It's a little peculiar that someone alleging to be close to Reprise Records is confirming anything at all to a fan board. Why would such a person risk losing his/her job and/or industry reputation, given how incensed Stevie can get about her unfinished work being released to the public before it's ready to be heard? I usually find such claims inherently suspect.
Hopefully we'll get an official response from Dave. He's the only one that I'd believe at this point.
SpyNote
07-17-2014, 07:01 PM
Yes, I am aware. But I believe you are mistaken about the RAL work tapes. They were listed on eBay in 2011, many here on the Ledge including myself bid on various items, and others pitched in cash to pay for them. Four items were won - one of them being the "Various SNL Demos" cassette that contained Priest of Nothing, You Like Me, Lady from the Mountain, etc... There was an I Can't Wait work tape, one labeled "Sharon's Tape" and another with mixes of Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You and Imperial Hotel.
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=48008
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=46290
Unless you are telling me that the whole 2011 eBay auction was a sham with several participants and that Mike had those tapes as far back as 2004 when the master reels first hit the scene.
What I'm saying is that some of this information has been embellished. If you'd like to talk to me privately without usernames and anonymity, I'd be happy to take this online.
sorcerer999
07-17-2014, 07:31 PM
Well, one thing is for certain. Bogus track list or not, it sure has made this thread come alive today! Five pages worth of discussion in the last 12 hours, compared to the previous five pages which spanned 15 days.
To quote Stevie, "I pray to the commercial Gods"...that this track list is totally fictitious!
I want my "Night Gallery", "Joan Of Arc", "Watch Devil" and "Spinning Wheels", damn it!!! :laugh:
...but I'll gladly take "Blue Water" and totally eat my words if this proves to be the actual list. :D
StreetAngel86
07-17-2014, 07:48 PM
In terms of fan favorites, I can't believe Julia, If You Were My Love, and The Dealer would be omitted. I am not a fan of this tracklisting unfortunately
Julia is not this fan's favorite in any respect.
i like the track listing if it's legit.
Sad about IYWML and Prettiest Girl not being there though. (the only reason I hope that listing is fake, fake fake FAKE :laugh:)
BlueLight
07-17-2014, 07:51 PM
On a slightly related note, Dave has updated his website, indicating that Stevie's album is "coming soon."
http://davestewart.com
Kudos to him for all of his work building up hype and excitement for this album.
As far as the potential track listing, I frankly will be thrilled with whatever we get.
The specificity of the track titles do suggest that it could be real. And if it is, I'd be over the moon with happiness. :]
Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if Stevie is saving some tracks for the FM album. And given that she recorded 17 or 18 tracks, I bet we'll get one or two bonus tracks.
Jondalar
07-17-2014, 08:17 PM
I want The Rhiannon Songs, Julia, Joan of Arc, Night Gallery
and maybe Blue Water, If You Were Love, China Doll….
Something Exquisite, Preist of Nothing, Space Needle can go
BlueLight
07-17-2014, 08:30 PM
Something Exquisite, Preist of Nothing, Space Needle can go
Entirely agreed.
Johnny Stew
07-17-2014, 08:55 PM
And given that she recorded 17 or 18 tracks, I bet we'll get one or two bonus tracks.
Based on this tweet from June 22nd, there will only be 16 tracks.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>back in the studio mixing Stevie Nicks today 12 songs mixed and 4 more to go ! <a href="http://t.co/Q5OLrg2Keu">http://t.co/Q5OLrg2Keu</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/480777863680241664">June 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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BlueLight
07-17-2014, 08:59 PM
Based on this tweet from June 22nd, there will only be 16 tracks.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>back in the studio mixing Stevie Nicks today 12 songs mixed and 4 more to go ! <a href="http://t.co/Q5OLrg2Keu">http://t.co/Q5OLrg2Keu</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/480777863680241664">June 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Thanks for reposting! I'll take 16. I somehow missed that one, and was only remembering Stevie's various comments that they recorded 17 or 18 tracks.
Jondalar
07-17-2014, 10:36 PM
God I wonder how long we will have to wait for the track listing? I want some info now.
Aussie W/Heart
07-17-2014, 11:48 PM
Im so excited, a lot of my faves have been included.. Im intrigued and think its great that a completely new unknown song has been added...
& this song list BETTER not be bogus:(
BombaySapphire3
07-17-2014, 11:59 PM
Im so excited, a lot of my faves have been included.. Im intrigued and think its great that a completely new unknown song has been added...
& this song list BETTER not be bogus:(
I really thought it was bogus at first..now I'm 50/50 regarding it.It just seems off kilter enough that it could be real...either that or the person that invented it has way too much time on their hands:laugh:
Jondalar
07-18-2014, 12:04 AM
I really thought it was bogus at first..now I'm 50/50 regarding it.It just seems off kilter enough that it could be real...either that or the person that invented it has way too much time on their hands:laugh:
I would be really surprised if Julia and Joan of Arc weren't on there.
BombaySapphire3
07-18-2014, 12:19 AM
I would be really surprised if Julia and Joan of Arc weren't on there.
Yeah..I do badly want for Julia to make the cut but if it isn't fake the Rhiannon songs are great news.
Did anyone record the proposed track-listing before it was removed?
StreetAngel86
07-18-2014, 02:12 AM
Did anyone record the proposed track-listing before it was removed?
you mean like this?
PenguinHead
07-18-2014, 02:35 AM
Dolly Parton isn't the same thing as anyone, and that's part of her wide appeal.
Dolly has written over 3000 songs. There have been a few albums (out of 42) that have mainly been covers, and she might throw a cover or two on the others, but there has to be somewhere for those 3000 songs to go.
Please listen to The Grass is Blue, Halos and Horns, Backwoods Barbie, and Just Because I'm a Woman for starters, and rethink that one :cool:
It's a matter of quality over quantity.
Thanks StreetAngel. I hadn't seen the list until now and must concede, it does seem a little dubious. "Priest Of Nothing" seems an unlikely choice for the reasons already mentioned and I maintain that "I Call You Missing" was simply an early version of "Love Is Like A River" so I very much doubt it would be revisited.
I also wonder about slightly revised titles such as "Starshine Silver" and "My Sanctuary, My Stronghold" when the original master reels most definitely refer to the titles we have known them by for many years. Of course, Stevie could have altered the titles, but it just seems a little bogus to me, reeking of an overly enthusiastic fan's fantasy track-listing.
On the other hand, I have been dreading the inclusion of "Space Needle" so that part almost rings kind of true.
I noticed no "Gypsy Beggar", but also concede that there was never any substance to the claims it was a contender.
If this track-listing does turn out to be correct, I will be mightily disappointed over the absence of "Julia", "China Doll" and "She Loves Him Still". I suspect "The Dealer" may have been reserved for Fleetwood Mac and of course, this could also be the case for "If You Were My Love" and the others I have mentioned.
Does anyone know how to check what titles may have been recently copyrighted or had their copyright renewed?
I'm also wondering if "Turnstile 69" is supposed to be the most recent snippet Dave gave us?
cactusjack
07-18-2014, 04:10 AM
If this track-listing does turn out to be correct, I will be mightily disappointed over the absence of "Julia", "China Doll" and "She Loves Him Still". I suspect "The Dealer" may have been reserved for Fleetwood Mac and of course, this could also be the case for "If You Were My Love" and the others I have mentioned?
bring on volume 2 the year after :p
welcomechris
07-18-2014, 06:09 AM
Here is how wiki works:
Some random person writes something, says it's official, wiki removes it because it's not true
On the topic of what songs we want, I really want "At The Fair", "Julia", "IYWML", and The Dealer
All great choices Chris. I've really warmed to the demo of "At The Fair" over the last few years and would be curious to hear Stevie's approach on this track in the here and now.
There's a good dozen or so songs I'm really counting on making the final cut, but if I could only have one, it would be "She Loves Him Still". If this doesn't eventuate, a clear master of the 1984 recording would be most welcome. It's just so beautiful.
welcomechris
07-18-2014, 06:23 AM
All great choices Chris. I've really warmed to the demo of "At The Fair" over the last few years and would be curious to hear Stevie's approach on this track in the here and now.
There's a good dozen or so songs I'm really counting on making the final cut, but if I could only have one, it would be "She Loves Him Still". If this doesn't eventuate, a clear master of the 1984 recording would be most welcome. It's just so beautiful.
I forgot about that one! Such a pretty song. This is not correct, this tracklisting nobody confirmed anything
He's So Unusual
07-18-2014, 06:24 AM
All great choices Chris. I've really warmed to the demo of "At The Fair" over the last few years and would be curious to hear Stevie's approach on this track in the here and now.
There's a good dozen or so songs I'm really counting on making the final cut, but if I could only have one, it would be "She Loves Him Still". If this doesn't eventuate, a clear master of the 1984 recording would be most welcome. It's just so beautiful.
I've been listening to At the Fair a lot over the last few months, it's a great track that would sound killer with updated production. I really hope Julia is on her upcoming album or at least Fleetwood Mac's, it's a shame it's been overlooked since the early 1980s, it's beautiful. Fingers crossed for a studio version of Gold and Braid.
welcomechris
07-18-2014, 06:27 AM
I could really do without the rhiannon songs. I'll stick with the ones from 1978
StevieNicksfann
07-18-2014, 07:04 AM
I want:
The Dealer
If You Were My Love
Jimmy, Come On Back
Ooh Baby
The Charmed Ones
All The Beautiful Worlds
Julia
Chanel Chanel
Tied Up (In Promises)
Only 2 are speculated to be on there.
I'm ok with Blue Water and I Call You Missing but I could do without Starshine, Space Needle, Something Exquisite, and the Rhiannon songs and Priest Of Nothing.
markolas
07-18-2014, 09:14 AM
The inclusion of Priest of Nothing, Something Exquisite, and I Call You Missing are what make me question this. I could do without all of those and Space Needle. Julia, China Doll, and If You Were My Love are the only ones I'd be disappointed were not there, if this track list turns out to be accurate.
I'd love to hear the Rhiannon songs fully fleshed out.
KarmaContestant
07-18-2014, 10:44 AM
I think I am the only one who wants Something Exquisite to be on the album. :laugh:
Johnny Stew
07-18-2014, 10:45 AM
I think I am the only one who wants Something Exquisite to be on the album. :laugh:
No, no -- it's on my wishlist, too. I love that song. :nod:
SameGlassTable
07-18-2014, 10:56 AM
My Wishlist :
Julia
Watch devil
Telephone song
City of hope
Sanctuary
Gold and Braid
Blue water
The Dealer
Castaway
All the Kings Horses
Starshine
All the Beautiful Worlds
One More tomorrow
You Like Me
markolas
07-18-2014, 12:04 PM
I think I am the only one who wants Something Exquisite to be on the album. :laugh:
If it winds up being on there, I'm sure it'll be fine. It just doesn't strike me as one that Stevie would really want to showcase.
SpyNote
07-18-2014, 12:21 PM
you mean like this?
And you can also see the Wikipedia revisions if you click on edit. The information is listed two different ways with conflicting dates and how the information was made available. So this now leads me to believe that the track listing is probably incorrect.
gldstwmn
07-18-2014, 01:00 PM
Well of course, you won one of the casettes. :nod:
This has got me thnking about the tapes that Ledgies didn't get from those 2011 auctions - the work tapes that had She Loves Him Still, Tied Up In Promises, Jimmy Come Back, and so much more.
http://i60.tinypic.com/123mftl.jpg
I know right? SpyNote would you mind elaborating on this a little more? It's widely believed that the cassettes originated from the old Rumbo Recorders which is now a banquet hall. If I recall correctly that same seller had cassettes from a bunch of other artists as well. I thought the master reels came from the auctioning off of a storage unit belonging to Modern Records?
I don't think it would be entirely off base for Stevie to name a song Priest of Nothing. Maybe she liked the title? Maybe that was the title? We all know how magical Dave is at arranging and producing Stevie's work. I'm not a fan of the demo but there is always the possibility that the finished product is quite different. I was never a fan of the Secret Love demo for instance. Never did I think she would pick that one to record. But she did and I was pleasantly surprised with the outcome.
Anyway my curiosity is piqued. This is an exciting time for us. But I don't think we should bog it down with other stuff. I don't think it's important where the demos et cetera came from, just that we got the privilege of hearing them. We went through a long dry spell with Stevie. I'm not about to look a gift horse in the mouth.
gldstwmn
07-18-2014, 01:29 PM
My kingdom for clear versions of those three tracks. Especially "She Loves Him Still" and "Jimmy Come On Back."
I know. You'd think if they were on master reels they would have surfaced by now.
gldstwmn
07-18-2014, 01:39 PM
I think I am the only one who wants Something Exquisite to be on the album. :laugh:
I'm super excited for that. I can see her, Waddy and Dave rocking the f*ck out of that.
BombaySapphire3
07-18-2014, 02:24 PM
[QUOTE=BlueLight;1134594]On a slightly related note, Dave has updated his website, indicating that Stevie's album is "coming soon."
http://davestewart.com
QUOTE]
In that case shouldn't we be getting a single anytime now?Secret Love showed up as a promo single a few months before IYD did.:shrug:
sorcerer999
07-18-2014, 03:15 PM
In that case shouldn't we be getting a single anytime now?Secret Love showed up as a promo single a few months before IYD did.:shrug:
Well we got the album title and release date for "In Your Dreams" on 1/13/11 ~ about 3 & 1/2 months from release date. They released the first single, "Secret Love" sometime in January of that year as well, right? Or was it the next month?
Regardless, you'd think if their plan is an October release date, then we'd have something by now...a single, a confirmed release date AND A CONFIRMED TRACK LIST, etc. If they choose to release it in November, then we should get something by early August, hopefully. Three months (or three and a half months) seems to be Warner Bros. track record between the first official press release and the release date.
Of course, since things are being done differently this time around (the quick recording, mixing, mastering, art work, etc) then Warners could put out the press release ANYTIME before release date. We might not hear anything "official" until a month (or a couple of weeks) before it's released.
louielouie2000
07-18-2014, 03:20 PM
^Both October & November have been mentioned. My guess is early/mid November since there are still some loose ends in regards to the timeline of events.
welcomechris
07-18-2014, 04:31 PM
another tracklisting is on wiki!
On July 18, 2014, Warner/Reprise records confirmed the official tracklisting for her upcoming solo release however did not release the title. Also released was information that Lindsey Buckingham is playing guitar and singing backup on Water Witch (which was revealed in October in an interview with Ryan Murphy "She’s not a witch, but she has an attraction to those mystical creatures because they’re fun to write about. So she gave me the rights to her music and she and Lindsay Buckingham are working on a special sort of redo of a song that was written about a witch." Christine McVie sings backup and plays piano on Blue Water and Plays keyboards on Julia, and 24 Karat Gold.
All tracks written by Stevie Nicks execpt where noted
1. 24 Karat Gold
2. Julia
3. The Dealer
4. Space Needle
5. Something Exquisite
6. If You Were My Love
7. All The Beautiful Worlds
8. See The World Go By
9. Sanctuary
10. Joan Of Arc
11. Blue Water (Nicks, Celani)
12. Starshine
13. One More Tomorrow (Nicks, Stewart, Munday)
14. Water Witch
15. At The Fair
16. She Still Loves Him
Real or fake? This one seems more real but I can't tell!
welcomechris
07-18-2014, 04:35 PM
I think that thing about the Lindsey playing guitar on a witch song is true but Water Witch?
Just googled it and it's a song from the Rhiannon film project in 1978
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/uoh8svibtd0i5nc/Water+Witch+-+Enhanced.mp3
See the world go by (i'm pretty sure) is a stevie demo circa 1972
welcomechris
07-18-2014, 04:36 PM
It is possible Chris played but do we know those are the tracks
welcomechris
07-18-2014, 04:38 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Nicks#2014:_Fleetwood_Mac_reunion_and_new_solo_album
Johnny Stew
07-18-2014, 05:10 PM
All tracks written by Stevie Nicks execpt where noted
1. 24 Karat Gold
2. Julia
3. The Dealer
4. Space Needle
5. Something Exquisite
6. If You Were My Love
7. All The Beautiful Worlds
8. See The World Go By
9. Sanctuary
10. Joan Of Arc
11. Blue Water (Nicks, Celani)
12. Starshine
13. One More Tomorrow (Nicks, Stewart, Munday)
14. Water Witch
15. At The Fair
16. She Still Loves Him
Now see, this track-listing I'd be ecstatic over. Seven of my ten "wishlist" songs are there, including my top three.
Of course, that basically means now that the other track-list is the real one. lol
[* My wishlist, for the record:
Julia
If You Were My Love
She Still Loves Him
Something Exquisite
All The Beautiful Worlds
Forest Of The Black Roses
Space Needle
The Dealer
Belle Fleur
Dial The Number]
markolas
07-18-2014, 05:10 PM
I think they're both horse****, but I'm enjoying the hell out of it!
Johnny Stew
07-18-2014, 05:18 PM
I think they're both horse****, but I'm enjoying the hell out of it!
Yeah, I agree. But it would definitely be my luck for the 1st one to be the real one, since it's the second one I'd be most excited for. lol
saradorna
07-18-2014, 05:18 PM
This is killing me! I like this track list but now the Rhiannon songs are not there!:shrug:
And yet, Water Witch which I think is Melacine and I believe is from the Rhiannon project is in this track list!!
I don't know what to think!
But I looove this track list more!
StevieNicksfann
07-18-2014, 05:25 PM
I so much prefer this track list!
sorcerer999
07-18-2014, 05:39 PM
another tracklisting is on wiki!
On July 18, 2014, Warner/Reprise records confirmed the official tracklisting for her upcoming solo release however did not release the title. Also released was information that Lindsey Buckingham is playing guitar and singing backup on Water Witch (which was revealed in October in an interview with Ryan Murphy "She’s not a witch, but she has an attraction to those mystical creatures because they’re fun to write about. So she gave me the rights to her music and she and Lindsay Buckingham are working on a special sort of redo of a song that was written about a witch." Christine McVie sings backup and plays piano on Blue Water and Plays keyboards on Julia, and 24 Karat Gold.
All tracks written by Stevie Nicks execpt where noted
1. 24 Karat Gold
2. Julia
3. The Dealer
4. Space Needle
5. Something Exquisite
6. If You Were My Love
7. All The Beautiful Worlds
8. See The World Go By
9. Sanctuary
10. Joan Of Arc
11. Blue Water (Nicks, Celani)
12. Starshine
13. One More Tomorrow (Nicks, Stewart, Munday)
14. Water Witch
15. At The Fair
16. She Still Loves Him
Real or fake? This one seems more real but I can't tell!
ARGGGGGGGHHH!!! This is frustrating as hell!!! Which one is real? Which one is fake? ARE THEY BOTH FAKE???
I must say that I soooooooo much prefer this second track listing. Six tracks from my wish list are on this one.
But, yet AGAIN, this is a posting on Wikipedia, so I don't trust it one bit. I wish Warners, or Amazon, or Dave Stewart, or someone in Stevie's camp would confirm everything already!
It's easier to get pumped up and excited about an upcoming release when you know what's what. :nod:
sorcerer999
07-18-2014, 05:46 PM
....and the "new" track list has been removed from her Wiki...:rolleyes:
f2theox
07-18-2014, 05:51 PM
This is indeed very frustrating. I love both track listings, honestly! Warner or Dave should just release the track listing already so we can stop with these dumb rumors!
Josh2003
07-18-2014, 05:52 PM
...brb...making new "leaked" track list to post to wiki to get fans all in a tizzy.
Johnny Stew
07-18-2014, 05:57 PM
...brb...making new "leaked" track list to post to wiki to get fans all in a tizzy.
Make sure you include "Lily Girl" and "Chanel Chanel" on yours, to really get people talking! Lol
sorcerer999
07-18-2014, 06:00 PM
...brb...making new "leaked" track list to post to wiki to get fans all in a tizzy.
Make sure you include "Lily Girl" and "Chanel Chanel" on yours, to really get people talking! Lol
:laugh: Don't forget to include some dumb title that no one has every heard of! I'm looking at YOU, "Turnstile 69"!!!
Keith
07-18-2014, 06:02 PM
"...Have I been here before... This is a dream, right..
Deja Vu.."
Although both track listings work for me, the inclusion of "She Still Loves Him" makes me hope that this new list is the one...
"..I miss my friend.. I miss the sound of his laughter..." what a beautiful moment to be a Stevie Nicks fan. Thanks for doing this for us, Ms. Nicks.
In this angry world of black and white, you add some much needed color.
Johnny Stew
07-18-2014, 06:03 PM
:laugh: Don't forget to include some dumb title that no one has every heard of! I'm looking at YOU, "Turnstile 69"!!!
I cannot wait to hear that lost gem, "Escalator 73!!"
BlueDenimLamp
07-18-2014, 06:13 PM
This is probably "Iamnotafraid"s way of getting revenge on the "Ledgies" who weren't very pleased with the last "Hoax"
sorcerer999
07-18-2014, 06:19 PM
This is probably "Iamnotafraid"s way of getting revenge on the "Ledgies" who weren't very pleased with the last "Hoax"
Do tell!!! I haven't heard that story.
Jondalar
07-18-2014, 06:19 PM
No Maker of Birds, one of her most sophisticated melodies ever?
both track listings are fakes
jkmaletic
07-18-2014, 06:20 PM
I cannot wait to hear that lost gem, "Escalator 73!!"
How about, "The Velvet Rope". Sounds legit enough. :shrug: :laugh:
BombaySapphire3
07-18-2014, 06:50 PM
How about, "The Velvet Rope". Sounds legit enough. :shrug: :laugh:
Didn't Janet Jackson already use that one:shrug:
HelloMonster
07-18-2014, 07:26 PM
It's fake. LindsAy Buckingham? From an official source? Yeah, okay. :rolleyes:
Yeah it's a quote, but still.
nicole21290
07-18-2014, 07:48 PM
It's fake. LindsAy Buckingham? From an official source? Yeah, okay. :rolleyes:
Yeah it's a quote, but still.
The misspelling of Lindsey IS correct, though, as that's how it was spelt in the article with that quote from Ryan Murphy last October. He DID say SnL were working in a re-make of an old song about a witch. So I will be curious if Water Witch/Melacine turns up or not.
olive
07-18-2014, 08:28 PM
Cool. Stevie made a CD. In record time. Can't wait to hear it .
CADreaming
07-18-2014, 10:04 PM
If you combine the two lists, you may have the complete 24 track listing. :shrug:
New List:
1. 24 Karat Gold
*2. Julia
*3. The Dealer
4. Space Needle
5. Something Exquisite
*6. If You Were My Love
7. All The Beautiful Worlds
*8. See The World Go By
9. Sanctuary
*10. Joan Of Arc
11. Blue Water (Nicks, Celani)
12. Starshine
*13. One More Tomorrow (Nicks, Stewart, Munday)
*14. Water Witch
*15. At The Fair
*16. She Still Loves Him
Original List:
1. 24 Karat Gold
2. Gold and Braid
3. The Black Space Needle
4. Something Exquisite
5. Star Shine Silver
6. Priest of Nothing
7. My Sanctuary, My Stronghold
8. All the Beautiful Worlds
9. I Call You Missing
10. The Maker of the Birds
11.The Forest of the Black Roses
12. The Forsaken Love
13. Cecelia
14. The Charmed Ones Remain
15. Turnstile 69
16. Blue Water (The Sound of My Gypsy)
Combined:
1. 24 Karat Gold
2. Gold and Braid
3. The Black Space Needle
4. Something Exquisite
5. Star Shine Silver
6. Priest of Nothing
7. My Sanctuary, My Stronghold
8. All the Beautiful Worlds
9. I Call You Missing
10. The Maker of the Birds
11.The Forest of the Black Roses
12. The Forsaken Love
13. Cecelia
14. The Charmed Ones Remain
15. Turnstile 69
16. Blue Water (The Sound of My Gypsy)
17. Julia
18. The Dealer
19. If You Were My Love
20. See the World Go By
21. Joan of Arc
22. One More Tomorrow
23. Water Witch
24. At the Fair
25. She Still Loves Him
Johnny Stew
07-18-2014, 10:15 PM
If you combine the two lists, you may have the complete 24 track listing. :shrug:
While a 2-disc deluxe edition would be killer, Dave only mentioned mixing 16 songs.
CADreaming
07-18-2014, 10:38 PM
While a 2-disc deluxe edition would be killer, Dave only mentioned mixing 16 songs.
Oh! When I saw the first list it had a dash after 1 followed by 24 ... I misread it as 24 tracks instead of the song title. Oops! :o
PenguinHead
07-18-2014, 10:53 PM
Face it, despite every one's personal preferences, we are going to get another album by Stevie Nicks! We should be excited and grateful for that.
She has so many demos, outtakes and unreleased songs that are personal favorites that were never intended to be leaked, but yet they were bootlegged, distributed and heard by the masses. The fact that she is readdressing any of these songs at this later stage in her career is simply amazing!
While we all be disappointed that certain songs which are personal favorite were not chosen for the album, we should still celebrate what we get.
The songs that don't make it on the album still exist in raw /demo form to enjoy. And for some people's preference, this is state of how they should remain to be.
Of course, the songs that do make it on the album will either gather praise, or suffer disdain in comparison to the demos. It's win/no win situation either way, depending on your perspective.
michelej1
07-18-2014, 11:05 PM
:laugh: Don't forget to include some dumb title that no one has every heard of! I'm looking at YOU, "Turnstile 69"!!!
LOL. If it had been Mile Post 69 then that would have made sense, because I could see it as a song she wrote while they were traveling on the road, ala SS.
Michele
sorcerer999
07-19-2014, 01:43 AM
Just as I suspected. The first "leaked" playlist is fake. Dave Stewart himself just confirmed this. I sent him a Facebook message yesterday and just now got a reply...
I said...
"Dave, there was a track list for Stevie's new album posted on her Wiki page yesterday and was promptly taken down this morning. Can you confirm whether or not this is a bogus track listing. It just doesn't seem real.
1. 24 Karat Gold
2. Gold and Braid
3.The Black Space Needle
4. Something Exquisite
5. Star Shine Silver
6. Priest of Nothing
7. My Sanctuary, My Stronghold
8. All the Beautiful Worlds
9. I Call You Missing
10. The Maker of Birds - Rhiannon's First Song
11. The Forest of Black Roses - Rhiannon's Second Song
12. Forsaken Love - Rhiannon's Final Song
13. Cecelia
14. The Charmed Ones Remain
15. Turnstile 69
16.Blue Water"
He simply replied, "Wrong."
There we have it. :laugh:
StreetAngel86
07-19-2014, 03:21 AM
I think I am the only one who wants Something Exquisite to be on the album. :laugh:
you're not!
StreetAngel86
07-19-2014, 03:27 AM
another tracklisting is on wiki!
On July 18, 2014, Warner/Reprise records confirmed the official tracklisting for her upcoming solo release however did not release the title. Also released was information that Lindsey Buckingham is playing guitar and singing backup on Water Witch (which was revealed in October in an interview with Ryan Murphy "She’s not a witch, but she has an attraction to those mystical creatures because they’re fun to write about. So she gave me the rights to her music and she and Lindsay Buckingham are working on a special sort of redo of a song that was written about a witch." Christine McVie sings backup and plays piano on Blue Water and Plays keyboards on Julia, and 24 Karat Gold.
All tracks written by Stevie Nicks execpt where noted
1. 24 Karat Gold
2. Julia
3. The Dealer
4. Space Needle
5. Something Exquisite
6. If You Were My Love
7. All The Beautiful Worlds
8. See The World Go By
9. Sanctuary
10. Joan Of Arc
11. Blue Water (Nicks, Celani)
12. Starshine
13. One More Tomorrow (Nicks, Stewart, Munday)
14. Water Witch
15. At The Fair
16. She Still Loves Him
Real or fake? This one seems more real but I can't tell!
i think somebody reading this board is $ hit stirring.
convenient how all the song discussed in this thread, not on the other track listing are suddenly here :shrug:
but this has 7 of my 10 "wishlist" songs on it soooooooooooo
BE REAL D A M M I T :D
I cannot wait to hear that lost gem, "Escalator 73!!"
Loading Dock 49 :nod::D
BombaySapphire3
07-19-2014, 09:16 AM
i think somebody reading this board is $ hit stirring.
convenient how all the song discussed in this thread, not on the other track listing are suddenly here :shrug:
I think both wiki list were ..Maybe we should all post a phony track list there on each successive day and see who comes the closest to the actual album .:laugh:
bgsfrk
07-19-2014, 11:57 AM
Hi all! Just so everyone knows the Facebook page "Stevie Nicks for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame" posted an unconfirmed track listing for the album (attached). Also, Dave Stewart posted a sound clip from the album here: http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com/2014/06/new-sound-bite-from-new-stevie-nicks.html
sorcerer999
07-19-2014, 12:01 PM
That clip was posted a month ago. It's awesome, isn't it? Also, that particular "track list" has been confirmed as fake by Dave Stewart.
welcomechris
07-19-2014, 12:13 PM
Yea it's fake. Where have you been and why are you posting this in FM's page instead of SN
bgsfrk
07-19-2014, 12:20 PM
O yea. Im crazy excited. What with this new solo album and probably a little solo tour later, the reunion tour now, new Fleetwood music, and possibly a tour after that material's released, it's pretty nice to be a fan right now :) I'm ok with the tracklisting being fake. There's a couple songs I was bummed weren't on there. Mostly Cathouse Blues
Johnny Stew
07-19-2014, 12:29 PM
Just as I suspected. The first "leaked" playlist is fake. Dave Stewart himself just confirmed this. I sent him a Facebook message yesterday and just now got a reply...
Thanks for getting confirmation!
BlueDenimLamp
07-19-2014, 12:39 PM
Hi all! Just so everyone knows the Facebook page "Stevie Nicks for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame" posted an unconfirmed track listing for the album (attached). Also, Dave Stewart posted a sound clip from the album here: http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com/2014/06/new-sound-bite-from-new-stevie-nicks.html
In case you have not been there (or found it yet) there is a vast thread Stevie Recording A New Album With Dave Stewart Producing In Nashville... (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=53598) in the "Stevie" section...This thread details everything from the first news of Stevie being in Nashville up until the present with the most recent point of interest being the alleged "leaked track listings"...
Good luck with the size of the thread and welcome to the Ledge...
How about the track listing Dave?
BlueLight
07-19-2014, 12:47 PM
Just as I suspected. The first "leaked" playlist is fake. Dave Stewart himself just confirmed this. I sent him a Facebook message yesterday and just now got a reply...
Thanks for confirming and posting! The suspense is killing me! :distress:
Yes, thanks sorcerer999. It's nice to at least be clear on the fact that we're all being trolled. :laugh:
Trolled in a somewhat fun way, admittedly. These tracklists have really got the upcoming album on my mind a lot these days. It's getting exciting!
AliceLover
07-19-2014, 01:10 PM
It just sucks because I was getting used to the idea that we weren't going to hear anything for a while. But now I am just DYING for some new news. A single announcment, release date, track list...ANYTHING! Oh well, I'm sure summer will be a nice distraction.
This is definitely a weird time for Stevie. Never has she had an album done, ready to release, but then have to run off and do a Fleetwood Mac Tour. Honestly, I wish she would do the 30+ dates with the Mac, release the album next March and do a proper summer tour behind it. Not that I want the album delayed at all, but I know once I hear these songs, I am going to want to hear them live!
UndoingTheLaces
07-19-2014, 01:41 PM
My Wishlist :
Julia
Watch devil
Telephone song
City of hope
Sanctuary
Gold and Braid
Blue water
The Dealer
Castaway
All the Kings Horses
Starshine
All the Beautiful Worlds
One More tomorrow
You Like Me
I'm glad I'm not the only one showing some love for Castaway. Dave Stewart's production and Stevie's vocals could make that one killer track now.
PenguinHead
07-19-2014, 09:03 PM
It just sucks because I was getting used to the idea that we weren't going to hear anything for a while. But now I am just DYING for some new news. A single announcment, release date, track list...ANYTHING! Oh well, I'm sure summer will be a nice distraction.
This is definitely a weird time for Stevie. Never has she had an album done, ready to release, but then have to run off and do a Fleetwood Mac Tour. Honestly, I wish she would do the 30+ dates with the Mac, release the album next March and do a proper summer tour behind it. Not that I want the album delayed at all, but I know once I hear these songs, I am going to want to hear them live!
I'm glad the album is coming out soon. While Fleetwood Mac is on tour, we'll have plenty of time to digest (and discuss) the album. I wonder how long after the tour will she get on the road again.
Perhaps she'll surprise everyone and perform one of her new songs with Fleetwood Mac. Not sure they would be too crazy about that! If they do any press interviews, I wonder if Stevie will use it as an opportunity to give a nod to her album. Not sure they would be to amenable to that either.
BombaySapphire3
07-19-2014, 09:42 PM
Perhaps she'll surprise everyone and perform one of her new songs with Fleetwood Mac. Not sure they would be to crazy about that! If they do any press interviews, I wonder if Stevie will use it as an opportunity to give a nod to her album. Not sure they would be to amenable to that either.
Considering that some of the "new " songs may very well have been demoed for Fleetwood Mac albums long past this should not be a far fetched idea..Maybe if she agrees to ditch Stand Back :rolleyes: they will be more amenable to the notion.
Aussie W/Heart
07-19-2014, 09:55 PM
If so, ^^ wouldn't it be SO cool if that new song was IYWML :blob2::blob2: instead of Stand Back..
PenguinHead
07-19-2014, 10:01 PM
If so, ^^ wouldn't it be SO cool if that new song was IYWML :blob2::blob2: instead of Stand Back..
Perfect choice, since we know If You Were My Love was almost a Fleetwood Mac song.:nod:
wheart
07-21-2014, 10:34 AM
Considering that some of the "new " songs may very well have been demoed for Fleetwood Mac albums long past this should not be a far fetched idea..Maybe if she agrees to ditch Stand Back :rolleyes: they will be more amenable to the notion.
I can already hear the 10 minute intro on stage about how the song was brought to FM but they didn't like and then it back in the vault and now she recorded it and on and on and on...:laugh::laugh:
reebokandlace
07-21-2014, 01:36 PM
I can already hear the 10 minute intro on stage about how the song was brought to FM but they didn't like and then it back in the vault and now she recorded it and on and on and on...:laugh::laugh:
10 minute intro the first show on tour...by the end of the tour the rambling speech will be 22 minutes long!
louielouie2000
07-21-2014, 02:31 PM
I can already hear the 10 minute intro on stage about how the song was brought to FM but they didn't like and then it back in the vault and now she recorded it and on and on and on...:laugh::laugh:
...which will eventually lead to Lindsey recreating the infamous choking-Stevie-on-the-hood-of-Christine's-Jaguar incident. :p
StreetAngel86
07-21-2014, 06:47 PM
If so, ^^ wouldn't it be SO cool if that new song was IYWML :blob2::blob2: instead of Stand Back..
OH MY GAWD :blob2::blob2::blob2:
hell to the yes
MIRAGE STYLE
Just like many others, I am keen to learn the track-listing for Stevie's upcoming album, but I wonder if it's even been finalised as yet? We know 16 titles were recorded, mixed and mastered for consideration, but I imagine only 13 or 14 might make the final cut, with the remainder possibly turning up as bonus tracks via ITunes/Amazon.com or deluxe editions.
As impatient as I am for details, I guess I need to remember just how quickly this album has come together. I just hope the projected October (not November please!) release eventuates.
welcomechris
07-22-2014, 11:35 AM
If I remember correctly 'In Your Dreams' had a few songs almost (or over) 6 minutes long. Maybe 16 songs will make the album
KarmaContestant
07-22-2014, 12:28 PM
Just like many others, I am keen to learn the track-listing for Stevie's upcoming album, but I wonder if it's even been finalised as yet? We know 16 titles were recorded, mixed and mastered for consideration, but I imagine only 13 or 14 might make the final cut, with the remainder possibly turning up as bonus tracks via ITunes/Amazon.com or deluxe editions.
As impatient as I am for details, I guess I need to remember just how quickly this album has come together. I just hope the projected October (not November please!) release eventuates.
16 tracks, or even 14 tracks on vinyl, will require a double album if the pressing is to be of any quality. IYD would have required a double vinyl release as well - but then again - double vinyl is very common these days. If there is a vinyl release, and they try to cram 16 tracks onto a single record, it will be a no-buy for me. More than 44 minutes on vinyl requires sound distortion, which completely defeats the purpose of a quality vinyl release.
I'm hoping for a 16 song CD, and double LP vinyl w/CD release. I do not want to be screwed into buying three copies of this album (CD, deluxe CD and vinyl) so I hope the standard CD/deluxe CD route is completely skipped in favor of all the tracks on a single CD and one 2LP vinyl package. I don't do digital downloads anymore, so I am not particular about what options are in that format.
sorcerer999
07-22-2014, 12:43 PM
16 tracks, or even 14 tracks on vinyl, will require a double album if the pressing is to be of any quality. IYD would have required a double vinyl release as well - but then again - double vinyl is very common these days. If there is a vinyl release, and they try to cram 16 tracks onto a single record, it will be a no-buy for me. More than 44 minutes on vinyl requires sound distortion, which completely defeats the purpose of a quality vinyl release.
Agreed. And it if is released on vinyl (fingers crossed that Dave wasn't just "speculating") then I don't see why they wouldn't do it as a double vinyl LP. They did it for "Crystal Visions".
My advice to vinyl collectors such as myself is SNATCH IT UP once it's released. I have a gut feeling that the vinyl version will be a limited pressing. You can't even go on Amazon or eBay these days without "Crystal Visions" commanding $250 brand new or $130 used.
That's cray!
KarmaContestant
07-22-2014, 01:34 PM
Agreed. And it if is released on vinyl (fingers crossed that Dave wasn't just "speculating") then I don't see why they wouldn't do it as a double vinyl LP. They did it for "Crystal Visions".
My advice to vinyl collectors such as myself is SNATCH IT UP once it's released. I have a gut feeling that the vinyl version will be a limited pressing. You can't even go on Amazon or eBay these days without "Crystal Visions" commanding $250 brand new or $130 used.
That's cray!
Vinyl prices through online sellers are almost scandalous. Seriously. :nod:
Christopher
07-22-2014, 02:49 PM
They would be smart to release a limited pressing on vinyl of "24 Karat Gold". Here in Denver at one of the few remaining & very popular music stores Twist & Shout, local news did a piece very recently on the resurgence of vinyl & interviewed the manager/owner of Twist & Shout who said their vinyl sales have recently topped their CD sales. I was sorta surprised, but I guess it makes sense, and come to think of it my last purchase there was used vinyl. They feature a huge section of new & used vinyl in a big room away from the CD & DVD area. And they always feature new release vinyl at the front of the store.
KarmaContestant
07-22-2014, 03:11 PM
They would be smart to release a limited pressing on vinyl of "24 Karat Gold". Here in Denver at one of the few remaining & very popular music stores Twist & Shout, local news did a piece very recently on the ressurgence of vinyl & interviewed the manager/owner of Twist & Shout who said their vinyl sales have recently topped their CD sales. I was sorta surprised, but I guess it makes sense, and come to think of it my last purchase their was used vinyl. They feature a huge section of new & used vinyl in a big room away from the CD & DVD area. And they always feature new release vinyl at the front of the store.
Great store. I'm not at all surprised at the vinyl resurgence. it seems to me to be, essentially, a hipster backlash at the constantly-on-the-go inferior sound quality of digital files. I would never have believed it, had it not been for the 2011 purchase of a real home stereo system with floor speakers, which only served to demonstrate how much like garbage digital files sound when not played through headphones. CDs are nice but the 'loudness wars' (google it) have somewhat tarnished the artistry of music on CD format - depending on the mastering engineer. So, I mostly listen to vinyl these days, unless I am in the car. The vinyl format doesn't allow for the same mastering techniques used on CDs, and often sounds more real and in-the-room.
Twist & Shout has an amazing selection, but I am learning that if you don't buy on the day of release, some titles are going to double and triple in price very quickly when you have to resort to eBay sellers or third-party Amazon merchants, because demand for vinyl is growing at a greater rate than than record labels are willing to produce.
I buy almost every album I purchase on vinyl. The best releases also include a CD. If not, I'll sometimes buy both. Otherwise I decide "Is this a sit down album or a car-only album?" and purchase a single copy accordingly. Stevie is one of those artists that I buy both formats, no matter what. I was pretty disappionted that In Your Dreams did not get the vinyl treatment.
Contrary to Stevie's belief, there are *plenty* of dope smoking people laying on the floor listening to actual, 12" vinyl records. :laugh:
michelej1
07-22-2014, 05:08 PM
They would be smart to release a limited pressing on vinyl of "24 Karat Gold". Here in Denver at one of the few remaining & very popular music stores Twist & Shout, local news did a piece very recently on the resurgence of vinyl & interviewed the manager/owner of Twist & Shout who said their vinyl sales have recently topped their CD sales.
It's happening worldwide. I heard a report last week that said that while musical downloads and cd sales have dropped, vinyl sales have risen.
Michele
BlueDenimLamp
07-22-2014, 05:57 PM
On a bit of a side note is Dave shooting HIS own commercials in the yard of Stevie's "big house"???
It looks like Stevie's pool to me...http://t.co/0ZqBgSOtHr
vivfox
07-22-2014, 06:27 PM
It looks like Stevie's pool to me...http://t.co/0ZqBgSOtHr
I think so too.
Christopher
07-22-2014, 07:09 PM
On a bit of a side note is Dave shooting HIS own commercials in the yard of Stevie's "big house"???
It looks like Stevie's pool to me...http://t.co/0ZqBgSOtHr
That is definitely Stevie's pool! I hope he filmed footage of his commercial at the same time they filmed a new video from "24 Karat Gold" to promote a new single :shrug:
Unless, of course, he used old footage culled from the IYDs "Wide Sargasso Sea" or "Moonlight" videos!?:cool:
BlueLight
07-22-2014, 07:20 PM
It's happening worldwide. I heard a report last week that said that while musical downloads and cd sales have dropped, vinyl sales have risen.
Yup! So far this year, vinyl sales are up something like 40% over the same period in 2013.
I'm in my mid-30s, and grew up listening exclusively to CDs. But now, for me, it's all vinyl, which conveniently come with an included digital download. Here in New York, record stores are everywhere, but it's at times hard to track down an actual CD.
Agreed. And it if is released on vinyl (fingers crossed that Dave wasn't just "speculating") then I don't see why they wouldn't do it as a double vinyl LP. They did it for "Crystal Visions".
My advice to vinyl collectors such as myself is SNATCH IT UP once it's released. I have a gut feeling that the vinyl version will be a limited pressing. You can't even go on Amazon or eBay these days without "Crystal Visions" commanding $250 brand new or $130 used.
That's cray!
SO cray. With some pluck and luck, I finally was able to snag a new copy on vinyl for $70. I gotta say, it's pretty awesome to hear Sorcerer and POTU on vinyl, with a real sound system. Which makes me SO excited that 24K is being released on vinyl. I entirely agree that it will be double LP, high-quality pressing. Now if only we can get a confirmed track list! :D
BlueDenimLamp
07-22-2014, 07:42 PM
It's happening worldwide. I heard a report last week that said that while musical downloads and cd sales have dropped, vinyl sales have risen.
Michele
Actually it's more than just a rekindled interest in vinyl as a lot of artists are going back to TAPE in the studio...Digital doesn't come into play until it's time to master for CD or iTunes...
Stevie's adopted band (Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers) new album "Hypnotic Eye" will be available on vinyl as a 180 gram double album... TP & The Heartbreaker's Benmont Tench's recent debut solo record "You Should Be So Lucky" is a complete analog project (Also a 180 gram double album)...There's an interview Benmont did where he talks about the finer point's of Tape/vinyl versus digital You Should Be So Lucky (http://soundbard.com/go-ahead-and-spin-it-to-me-benmont-tench-breaks-down-why-he-loves-lucky-on-vinyl/)...
Since "Double Albums" seem to be popular there's no reason why Stevie shouldn't join the club... Additionally since it seems Lindsey is always striving for a great sound perhaps they should be looking at the new FM record being an all analog project...
I wonder what Stevie makes of Benmont Tench having worked with Glyn Johns on his solo album? Then again, maybe she has forgiven Glyn and after a period of introspection, determined that the conflict between them was all her fault. Yes that must be it...
HelloMonster
07-22-2014, 10:16 PM
Woah. Crystal Visions goes for that much? I bought ours in 2012 for 29 dollars new/sealed on ebay.
... The bidding will start at $150. Any takers? :D
sorcerer999
07-22-2014, 10:59 PM
Woah. Crystal Visions goes for that much? I bought ours in 2012 for 29 dollars new/sealed on ebay.
I too bought my first copy back in 2008 for about $29 like you. I then sold it 3 years later with a bunch of other albums (when I was in between jobs and needed money) thinking to myself that I would just buy it again at a later date.
BIG MISTAKE! I shopped for months last year trying to find a copy at a reasonable price, but never had any luck. I finally found one on ebay with the "Buy It Now" option for $50. YOINK. MINE.
I will never make that mistake again when it comes to "limited pressings". Lesson learned.
Danielle
07-23-2014, 03:50 AM
I am a new fan who lives in Brazil where nothing FM/SN gets released, so I paid a small fortune for Crystal Visions. :(
I'll make sure to "import"my copies (both vinyl and CD) of the new album as soon as they come out, I certainly don't want to repeat the CV experience. :D
BlueDenimLamp
07-23-2014, 01:58 PM
This is the tweet I want to see from @StevieNicks (https://twitter.com/StevieNicks)
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/Stevie222_zpsc73b6cb4.png
Not news of an Instagram that may or may not be used by "Camp Stevie"
Just so people don't think I'm one of iamnotafraid's minions I issue the disclaimer that the above tweet is NOT real
mitzo
07-23-2014, 04:43 PM
This is the tweet I want to see from @StevieNicks (https://twitter.com/StevieNicks)
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/Stevie222_zpsc73b6cb4.png
Not news of an Instagram that may or may not be used by "Camp Stevie"
Just so people don't think I'm one of iamnotafraid's minions I issue the disclaimer that the above tweet is NOT real
What is this???
BlueDenimLamp
07-23-2014, 04:55 PM
What is this???
It's the tweet I want from Stevie (I thought it was self explanatory) not a tweet about her new instagram which will probably get used as much as her twitter...
f2theox
07-23-2014, 04:55 PM
I got excited for a second and thought that tweet was real. :laugh:
Turn It On
07-23-2014, 06:31 PM
This is the tweet I want to see from @StevieNicks (https://twitter.com/StevieNicks)
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/Stevie222_zpsc73b6cb4.png
Not news of an Instagram that may or may not be used by "Camp Stevie"
Just so people don't think I'm one of iamnotafraid's minions I issue the disclaimer that the above tweet is NOT real
Is that stitched together from a Tom Petty tweet?
mitzo
07-23-2014, 08:18 PM
I got excited for a second and thought that tweet was real. :laugh:
Me too, I had not looked at the other thread about Instagram.
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 08:15 AM
In January 1998, Stevie herself hand delivered several tapes of demos and outtakes to the Atlantic Records offices in Manhattan. These songs were to be considered for inclusion to Stevie's upcoming box set, Enchanted. An employee of Atlantic made copies and shared them. (This is the list of 'Enchanted' outtakes
Edge of Seventeen (Unreleased Extended Version)
How Still My Love (Jazz Takes)
Gypsy Beggars
The Nightmare (Piano Demos)
It's Late (Alternate)
All Over You
Twisted (Demo Without Overdubs)
If Stevie herself handed "Gypsy Beggars" in to Atlantic Records, chances are she likes that song. If she likes that song, chances are she will record it for her new record. Gypsy Beggars is on YouTube...
This can also connect to the "Wild Heart Gypsy Soul" post that Dave posted a few weeks ago.
Gypsy Beggars Lyrics Gypsy Soul parts are in bold
He was my friend
Long ago, before you
Gypsy soul
And the beggar’s dust
What’s wrong with him
I wanna talk to you
Say he’s coming here
I wanna talk to you
I wanna talk to you
Why this silk dress
You’ll never love him
Have them then your newfound friends
Stare through the window
Your hands
Don’t do this
What about
I wish he hadn’t come back
Different as he is
She convinces herself selfish
Why did you stay so long in that house
You gypsy beggar
He was my friend before your gypsy soul
And the beggar’s dust
What’s wrong with him
That challenge
Keeps up together
It is a challenge for love to get older
Time was
As the sea
As the sea
The sea draws you closer
The time had come….and gone….
She convinces herself selfish
Well, why did you stay so long in that house
Well, you’re a gypsy beggar
He was my friend long ago
Before you
Somewhere in his gypsy soul
Sorry mate, but I totally refute the claims relating to "All Over You", despite the 'inside information' from various fans over the years. The female vocalist on this (awful) track is most definitely not Stevie Nicks.
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 08:54 AM
Sorry mate, but I totally refute the claims relating to "All Over You", despite the 'inside information' from various fans over the years. The female vocalist on this (awful) track is most definitely not Stevie Nicks.
It's awful and it's drugged up but it's not on the record I personally asked Dave Stewart who said "No it is not on the record It was one of the 25 songs we found on Youtube but stevie refused to re-record it because of the sexual references"
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 09:02 AM
Ok so I found some old articles that show the tracklisting of her older albums and when the tracklisting was released
IYD - January?, 2011 - May 3, 2011
TISL - February 10, 2001 - May 1, 2001
BlueLight
07-24-2014, 09:11 AM
This is the tweet I want to see from @StevieNicks (https://twitter.com/StevieNicks)
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/Stevie222_zpsc73b6cb4.png
Not news of an Instagram that may or may not be used by "Camp Stevie"
Just so people don't think I'm one of iamnotafraid's minions I issue the disclaimer that the above tweet is NOT real
Such a tease! But I do think we'll eventually get pre-order info and good news re a double-vinyl release.
sorcerer999
07-24-2014, 10:43 AM
This is the tweet I want to see from @StevieNicks (https://twitter.com/StevieNicks)
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/Stevie222_zpsc73b6cb4.png
Not news of an Instagram that may or may not be used by "Camp Stevie"
Just so people don't think I'm one of iamnotafraid's minions I issue the disclaimer that the above tweet is NOT real
According to the new press release, it looks like you'll (and we) will be getting our wish! Double album...and in September, no less!!! :blob2:
BlueDenimLamp
07-24-2014, 11:45 AM
According to the new press release, it looks like you'll (and we) will be getting our wish! Double album...and in September, no less!!! :blob2:
Yes but how long will it take for "Camp Stevie" to actually tweet? Maybe we should have a contest on the Ledge..."When will @StevieNicks tweet about 24 Karat Gold"?
BlueLight
07-24-2014, 11:47 AM
Yes but how long will it take for "Camp Stevie" to actually tweet? Maybe we should have a contest on the Ledge..."When will @StevieNicks tweet about 24 Karat Gold"?
Perhaps your fake tweet got us the press release. Maybe you should create a fake tweet re the track listing and see what happens. ;)
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 12:00 PM
This is amazing I'm very excited but why October 7th? That long! It'll do but thats a busy day for me, a FM concert in MSG, a new Mick book, and a new Stevie album!
BlueDenimLamp
07-24-2014, 12:00 PM
FINALLY!!!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>been here in Nashville since Easter Sunday rocking out with <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks">@stevienicks</a> ! <a href="http://t.co/cIJJq70laX">http://t.co/cIJJq70laX</a></p>— Dave Stewart (@DaveStewart) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveStewart/statuses/461245745790599168">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r663/Nicksiannation/1901550_10151988875942133_3612956463239179276_n_zps25ece84a.jpg
Lets hope Dave's tweeting continues...
And someone is on top of things as @StevieNicks (https://twitter.com/StevieNicks) re-tweeted Dave's tweet almost at the same time it was posted...
A new "Double Album" with a 48 page book from start to stores in 5 months...Looks like Mama is showing the Mac how it's done...
With any luck there will be a strong demand for "24 Karat" and FM will take notice and follow Stevie's lead with a deluxe vinyl release of their own...
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 12:02 PM
Wait 1987? JOAN OF ARC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BlueDenimLamp
07-24-2014, 12:07 PM
Perhaps your fake tweet got us the press release. Maybe you should create a fake tweet re the track listing and see what happens. ;)
The wiki track listing was bogus and we knew it but perhaps some "junior intern" at WB saw the fake tweet and thought it was real...Thinking the cat was out of the bag they issued a press release...Not very different from Mick spilling the beans at the book signing shortly after which Dave started tweeting...
BlueLight
07-24-2014, 12:16 PM
So, let's just assume for a minute that:
1) we're getting 16 total tracks;
2) the '87 track is Joan of Arc; and
3) the mid-90s tracks are Space Needle and Have No Heart.
That means we could be getting,
1) 24 Karat Gold
2) Starshine
3) Have No Heart
4) Space Needle
5) Joan of Arc
Which leaves us with 11 tracks to go.
Does anyone have any guesses as to what the '69 track could be?
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 12:24 PM
When Will We Love Again, Knocking On Doors, Anybody Out There?, Amber, See The World Go By, Amber, You Won't Forget Me, Farewell Failure, Take Advantage Of Me
Are all from the 1969-1974 era.
BlueDenimLamp
07-24-2014, 12:26 PM
So, let's just assume for a minute that:
1) we're getting 16 total tracks;
2) the '87 track is Joan of Arc; and
3) the mid-90s tracks are Space Needle and Have No Heart.
That means we could be getting,
1) 24 Karat Gold
2) Starshine
3) Have No Heart
4) Space Needle
5) Joan of Arc
Which leaves us with 11 tracks to go.
Does anyone have any guesses as to what the '69 track could be?
It's possible that a few of the tracks will be uncirculated songs we have never heard before...
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 12:27 PM
Why no mention on a single or tracklisting
Christopher
07-24-2014, 12:51 PM
Why no mention on a single or tracklisting
I'm wondering if they will even bother with officially releasing a promotional single. Radio is not going to play it. And Stevie will be on tour with FM.:shrug: Maybe she will drop SB and add one song from 24 Karat Gold that perhaps Christine maybe played on while she was in Nashville w/Stevie back in April.
Fleetwood Mac, coincidentally, will be in New York City October 6-7th, then have a 2 day break before Boston Oct. 10th. So I expect Stevie will make the daytime & evening talk show rounds on the east coast to promote 24 Karat. The question will be if she flys out her players to do any solo performances of a single or any material from the new release.
Christopher
07-24-2014, 02:04 PM
Wait 1987? JOAN OF ARC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or...What Has Rock n' Roll Ever Done For You. :shrug:
Personally, I'd prefer Joan Of Arc, absoluteley. But, I could envision a modern update of the 80s screamer WHRREDFY too. This is going to be amazing whatever the songs are!
bombaysaffires
07-24-2014, 02:43 PM
Or...What Has Rock n' Roll Ever Done For You. :shrug:
Personally, I'd prefer Joan Of Arc, absoluteley. But, I could envision a modern update of the 80s screamer WHRREDFY too. This is going to be amazing whatever the songs are!
oh dear gawd let it be Joan and NOT What Has R&R… :distress:
Artemis
07-24-2014, 03:29 PM
I can totally picture a very very very campy What has Rock and Roll... or a super dark Joan of Arc. Praying for Joan.
Christopher
07-24-2014, 03:40 PM
I can totally picture a very very very campy What has Rock and Roll... or a super dark Joan of Arc. Praying for Joan.
That's funny, because I was thinking the opposite on WHRREDFY. The 80s outtake, to me, is very "campy". I like it, it's catchy, but the whistles and the 80s production are over the top. I would imagine if this song was dug out and re-recorded, it would be much more raw & modern rock. Joan Of Arc would be sublime.
Jondalar
07-24-2014, 05:10 PM
So, let's just assume for a minute that:
1) we're getting 16 total tracks;
2) the '87 track is Joan of Arc; and
3) the mid-90s tracks are Space Needle and Have No Heart.
That means we could be getting,
1) 24 Karat Gold
2) Starshine
3) Have No Heart
4) Space Needle
5) Joan of Arc
Which leaves us with 11 tracks to go.
Does anyone have any guesses as to what the '69 track could be?
I believe you are right. I really hope Maker of Birds is on that list.
markolas
07-24-2014, 05:26 PM
Amber and Cecelia are both early tracks, right? One of those could be the "1969" song.
Jondalar
07-24-2014, 06:25 PM
Amber and Cecelia are both early tracks, right? One of those could be the "1969" song.
See The World Go By demoed in 1972 but she could of written it in 1969.
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Or this could of been written in 1969 = Anybody Out There
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both are good songs of a time gone by
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 06:50 PM
Amber and Cecelia are both early tracks, right? One of those could be the "1969" song.
Cecelia was written in the late seventies
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 07:06 PM
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When looking under #StevieNicks on Facebook, I found this
not sure if real or fake but I won't complain if it's real
markolas
07-24-2014, 07:15 PM
I can't imagine that Julia wouldn't be on there, seeing how much both the fans and Stevie and Lori love it.
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 07:17 PM
Lots of 'Rumours' for the songs
Rumoured songs
- Julia
- Blue Water
- Watch Devil
- The Dealer
- Space Needle
- Have No Heart
sorcerer999
07-24-2014, 07:21 PM
This Moe Sizlack (named after the bartender on "The Simpsons") just joined Facebook YESTERDAY. And that's the only post he has on his wall. And he has NO picture and NO info.
Don't get me wrong, "Blue Water" and "Julia" are the be all and end all for me as far as Stevie demos go and I will jump for joy if they are on this record...
...but I'm not jumping for joy until I see an official track listing.
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 07:22 PM
Wait Moe Sizlack sounds like Moe from the simpsons. Oh well we'll have to wait
markolas
07-24-2014, 07:27 PM
I love the speculating, though.
mitzo
07-24-2014, 07:29 PM
oh dear gawd let it be Joan and NOT What Has R&R… :distress:
Yes dear God I promise I'll be good if you keep WHRAREDFY off the album... and put JOA instead.
I must be the only one dreading both "Joan Of Arc" and "What Has Rock 'N' Roll Ever Done For You?". Both songs are atrocious.
welcomechris
07-24-2014, 07:41 PM
In the recent press release I noticed they referred to the album title as
24 Karat - Songs from the Vault.
Did they nix the word Gold? I sure hope so. It's much better. But now should it be entitled as 24 Karats? And wouldn't it be nice if it was actually 24 songs?
I think the gold is there
AnthonyMI
07-24-2014, 07:54 PM
I must be the only one dreading both "Joan Of Arc" and "What Has Rock 'N' Roll Ever Done For You?". Both songs are atrocious.
I am waiting for The Tragedy of ones Own Soul and Lilly Girl :) 8 minute versions. Of each.
BombaySapphire3
07-24-2014, 08:05 PM
If I remember correctly 'In Your Dreams' had a few songs almost (or over) 6 minutes long. Maybe 16 songs will make the album
with the double on vinyl I would think it would almost have to be 18 songs..16 and the 2 bonus tracks.
This is speculative on my part, but I'm thinking the track-listing might be something like this:
24 Karat Gold
Starshine
1969 mystery track - possibly the most recent snippet?
Space Needle
Have No Heart
The Dealer
Watch Devil
Julia
Sanctuary
All The Beautiful Worlds
Forsaken Love
If You Were My Love
Joan Of Arc
Gold & Braid
Forest Of The Black Roses
Gypsy Beggar
Some of these really do seem likely (and I'm not happy about a few of them), but I'm still holding out for China Doll and She Loves Him Still. Please...
sorcerer999
07-24-2014, 08:30 PM
with the double on vinyl I would think it would almost have to be 18 songs..16 and the 2 bonus tracks.
It was already confirmed today that the regular CD will be 14 songs, and the Deluxe Edition will include 2 bonus tracks. So this confirms Dave Stewart's tweets that only 16 tracks were recorded. Not sure, though, if the double vinyl will include the two bonus songs. That would really be sweet if it did. :)
sorcerer999
07-24-2014, 08:57 PM
Okay. I just reread the tweet again. The 2 bonus tracks WILL be on the vinyl! YAY!!!:blob2:
BlueDenimLamp
07-24-2014, 08:59 PM
It was already confirmed today that the regular CD will be 14 songs, and the Deluxe Edition will include 2 bonus tracks. So this confirms Dave Stewart's tweets that only 16 tracks were recorded. Not sure, though, if the double vinyl will include the two bonus songs. That would really be sweet if it did. :)
This is from the original press release..."Additionally, a Deluxe Photobook CD album will be available for fans, which includes two bonus tracks plus 48 pages of exclusive photos from Nicks’ personal photo collection."
I have a sneaky suspicion that the "Photobook CD" is just that a CD with digital pictures (perhaps some studio footage as well) and the 2 bonus tracks as a separate purchase...I believe it was Dave Grohl that told Stevie "If you want to sell records you have to package it with something the fans want"
I think we should all be ready for "Sticker Shock" when we see the price of the "Deluxe Edition Double Album"...If the Deluxe package includes 2 LP's a 48 page printed book and the CD and or digital downloads along with the "Photobook CD" then the price may be hefty indeed...
Johnny Stew
07-24-2014, 09:24 PM
Hmm, I don't believe the vinyl edition will contain the 48-page book. This quote from ABCNewsRadioOnline implies, to me, that the book only comes with the Deluxe CD edition:
"In addition, a limited edition double vinyl version of 24 Karat Gold -- Songs from the Vault will come out September 29. Also available will be a Deluxe Photobook CD, which will include two bonus tracks, as well as 48 pages of exclusive photos from Stevie's personal collection. "
BombaySapphire3
07-24-2014, 09:47 PM
Yes dear God I promise I'll be good if you keep WHRAREDFY off the album... and put JOA instead.
People are forgetting that Gypsy Beggar is also from around that same time and Dave did tweet out those signs with lyrics from that song on it.
olive
07-25-2014, 07:32 AM
i happy for a new cd what ever is on it . but .... i kinda hope she recorded them in the 70's county rock sound when she wrote them.
AnthonyMI
07-25-2014, 08:54 AM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
2. These are not as good as the originals. I wont/refuse to listen to them! :mad:
3. This album cost too much! waaaaaaaaah. :(
4. I hate the name and cover of this album. Her 80s albums and names were SO much better :shrug:
5. Stevie is SO photoshopped. she is SO old now. not as hot as she used to be. :distress:
6. I would rather NOT have a new album and just listen to her OLD albums when she sounded better. :eek:
7. she should have worked with Producer "fill in the blank". He would have done a better job with her music :confused:
8. Nothing is good or happy ever. I hate my life! waaaaaaaaaah :(
9. This album only sold X copies. It is a failure. It should never have been released. She doesnt sell like she used to. It only hit Number 5! :mad:
10. I hate everything! I am going to sit here in my double wide with my 15 cats while i am eternally single and morbidly obese and sad and eat frosting out of the container with a wooden spoon while I watch The Rosebud bootleg and wish for the "good old days"!!!
Did I leave anything out?
gssmith
07-25-2014, 09:22 AM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
2. These are not as good as the originals. I wont/refuse to listen to them! :mad:
3. This album cost too much! waaaaaaaaah. :(
4. I hate the name and cover of this album. Her 80s albums and names were SO much better :shrug:
5. Stevie is SO photoshopped. she is SO old now. not as hot as she used to be. :distress:
6. I would rather NOT have a new album and just listen to her OLD albums when she sounded better. :eek:
7. she should have worked with Producer "fill in the blank". He would have done a better job with her music :confused:
8. Nothing is good or happy ever. I hate my life! waaaaaaaaaah :(
9. This album only sold X copies. It is a failure. It should never have been released. She doesnt sell like she used to. It only hit Number 5! :mad:
10. I hate everything! I am going to sit here in my double wide with my 15 cats while i am eternally single and morbidly obese and sad and eat frosting out of the container with a wooden spoon while I watch The Rosebud bootleg and wish for the "good old days"!!!
Did I leave anything out?
Hahahaha! Some people are determined to be unhappy. Having a gripe is entertaining in a sick way. The only thing you left out: She better not mention the album during FWM's tour.
BlueDenimLamp
07-25-2014, 09:22 AM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
2. These are not as good as the originals. I wont/refuse to listen to them! :mad:
3. This album cost too much! waaaaaaaaah. :(
4. I hate the name and cover of this album. Her 80s albums and names were SO much better :shrug:
5. Stevie is SO photoshopped. she is SO old now. not as hot as she used to be. :distress:
6. I would rather NOT have a new album and just listen to her OLD albums when she sounded better. :eek:
7. she should have worked with Producer "fill in the blank". He would have done a better job with her music :confused:
8. Nothing is good or happy ever. I hate my life! waaaaaaaaaah :(
9. This album only sold X copies. It is a failure. It should never have been released. She doesnt sell like she used to. It only hit Number 5! :mad:
10. I hate everything! I am going to sit here in my double wide with my 15 cats while i am eternally single and morbidly obese and sad and eat frosting out of the container with a wooden spoon while I watch The Rosebud bootleg and wish for the "good old days"!!!
Did I leave anything out?
11. Why is Stevie promoting a record while on tour with FM? Who does she think she is?
12 She should be touring solo to promote this record.
13 Why did she put that song on the record when it should be on the next FM record.
14 Why did she waste her time on this instead of being in the studio with FM where she belongs.
15 She can have (Insert a FM members name here) on HER record but she is to busy to be in the studio with FM.
AnthonyMI
07-25-2014, 09:31 AM
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MikeInNV
07-25-2014, 09:32 AM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
2. These are not as good as the originals. I wont/refuse to listen to them! :mad:
3. This album cost too much! waaaaaaaaah. :(
4. I hate the name and cover of this album. Her 80s albums and names were SO much better :shrug:
5. Stevie is SO photoshopped. she is SO old now. not as hot as she used to be. :distress:
6. I would rather NOT have a new album and just listen to her OLD albums when she sounded better. :eek:
7. she should have worked with Producer "fill in the blank". He would have done a better job with her music :confused:
8. Nothing is good or happy ever. I hate my life! waaaaaaaaaah :(
9. This album only sold X copies. It is a failure. It should never have been released. She doesnt sell like she used to. It only hit Number 5! :mad:
10. I hate everything! I am going to sit here in my double wide with my 15 cats while i am eternally single and morbidly obese and sad and eat frosting out of the container with a wooden spoon while I watch The Rosebud bootleg and wish for the "good old days"!!!
Did I leave anything out?
11. Why is Stevie promoting a record while on tour with FM? Who does she think she is?
12 She should be touring solo to promote this record.
13 Why did she put that song on the record when it should be on the next FM record.
14 Why did she waste her time on this instead of being in the studio with FM where she belongs.
15 She can have (Insert a FM members name here) on HER record but she is to busy to be in the studio with FM.
You guys are awesome. Hopefully now we won't have to read actual posts like that, LOL.
BlueDenimLamp
07-25-2014, 09:52 AM
You guys are awesome. Hopefully now we won't have to read actual posts like that, LOL.
Oh It's already started...Look and ye shall find...
BlueLight
07-25-2014, 10:03 AM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
2. These are not as good as the originals. I wont/refuse to listen to them! :mad:
3. This album cost too much! waaaaaaaaah. :(
4. I hate the name and cover of this album. Her 80s albums and names were SO much better :shrug:
5. Stevie is SO photoshopped. she is SO old now. not as hot as she used to be. :distress:
6. I would rather NOT have a new album and just listen to her OLD albums when she sounded better. :eek:
7. she should have worked with Producer "fill in the blank". He would have done a better job with her music :confused:
8. Nothing is good or happy ever. I hate my life! waaaaaaaaaah :(
9. This album only sold X copies. It is a failure. It should never have been released. She doesnt sell like she used to. It only hit Number 5! :mad:
10. I hate everything! I am going to sit here in my double wide with my 15 cats while i am eternally single and morbidly obese and sad and eat frosting out of the container with a wooden spoon while I watch The Rosebud bootleg and wish for the "good old days"!!!
Did I leave anything out?
Nailed it.
BombaySapphire3
07-25-2014, 10:12 AM
i happy for a new cd what ever is on it . but .... i kinda hope she recorded them in the 70's county rock sound when she wrote them.
I think you are going get your wish granted on a lot of the songs..I'm sensing kind of a Bella Donna era vibe,
markolas
07-25-2014, 10:16 AM
This is speculative on my part, but I'm thinking the track-listing might be something like this:
24 Karat Gold
Starshine
1969 mystery track - possibly the most recent snippet?
Space Needle
Have No Heart
The Dealer
Watch Devil
Julia
Sanctuary
All The Beautiful Worlds
Forsaken Love
If You Were My Love
Joan Of Arc
Gold & Braid
Forest Of The Black Roses
Gypsy Beggar
I think this will wind up being pretty close to accurate. The more I think about it, the more I think Amber is probably the 1969 track.
BombaySapphire3
07-25-2014, 10:35 AM
With the "Rhiannon " songs IMO it will be an all or nothing situation and it is starting to look more like nothing .Would have really loved Forest of the Black Roses in particular but am still very excited about the album.
mitzo
07-25-2014, 10:59 AM
With the "Rhiannon " songs IMO it will be an all or nothing situation and it is starting to look more like nothing .Would have really loved Forest of the Black Roses in particular but am still very excited about the album.
No Rhiannon songs is a colossal disappointment for me. But maybe I am the only one.
olive
07-25-2014, 11:02 AM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
2. These are not as good as the originals. I wont/refuse to listen to them! :mad:
3. This album cost too much! waaaaaaaaah. :(
4. I hate the name and cover of this album. Her 80s albums and names were SO much better :shrug:
5. Stevie is SO photoshopped. she is SO old now. not as hot as she used to be. :distress:
6. I would rather NOT have a new album and just listen to her OLD albums when she sounded better. :eek:
7. she should have worked with Producer "fill in the blank". He would have done a better job with her music :confused:
8. Nothing is good or happy ever. I hate my life! waaaaaaaaaah :(
9. This album only sold X copies. It is a failure. It should never have been released. She doesnt sell like she used to. It only hit Number 5! :mad:
10. I hate everything! I am going to sit here in my double wide with my 15 cats while i am eternally single and morbidly obese and sad and eat frosting out of the container with a wooden spoon while I watch The Rosebud bootleg and wish for the "good old days"!!!
Did I leave anything out?
i just peed my pants !
editme2
07-25-2014, 12:58 PM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
2. These are not as good as the originals. I wont/refuse to listen to them! :mad:
3. This album cost too much! waaaaaaaaah. :(
4. I hate the name and cover of this album. Her 80s albums and names were SO much better :shrug:
5. Stevie is SO photoshopped. she is SO old now. not as hot as she used to be. :distress:
6. I would rather NOT have a new album and just listen to her OLD albums when she sounded better. :eek:
7. she should have worked with Producer "fill in the blank". He would have done a better job with her music :confused:
8. Nothing is good or happy ever. I hate my life! waaaaaaaaaah :(
9. This album only sold X copies. It is a failure. It should never have been released. She doesnt sell like she used to. It only hit Number 5! :mad:
10. I hate everything! I am going to sit here in my double wide with my 15 cats while i am eternally single and morbidly obese and sad and eat frosting out of the container with a wooden spoon while I watch The Rosebud bootleg and wish for the "good old days"!!!
Did I leave anything out?
Brilliant! This just made my day!
KarmaContestant
07-25-2014, 01:31 PM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
2. These are not as good as the originals. I wont/refuse to listen to them! :mad:
3. This album cost too much! waaaaaaaaah. :(
4. I hate the name and cover of this album. Her 80s albums and names were SO much better :shrug:
5. Stevie is SO photoshopped. she is SO old now. not as hot as she used to be. :distress:
6. I would rather NOT have a new album and just listen to her OLD albums when she sounded better. :eek:
7. she should have worked with Producer "fill in the blank". He would have done a better job with her music :confused:
8. Nothing is good or happy ever. I hate my life! waaaaaaaaaah :(
9. This album only sold X copies. It is a failure. It should never have been released. She doesnt sell like she used to. It only hit Number 5! :mad:
10. I hate everything! I am going to sit here in my double wide with my 15 cats while i am eternally single and morbidly obese and sad and eat frosting out of the container with a wooden spoon while I watch The Rosebud bootleg and wish for the "good old days"!!!
Did I leave anything out?
:laugh: Um, I think you got them all.
PenguinHead
07-25-2014, 02:17 PM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
2. These are not as good as the originals. I wont/refuse to listen to them! :mad:
3. This album cost too much! waaaaaaaaah. :(
4. I hate the name and cover of this album. Her 80s albums and names were SO much better :shrug:
5. Stevie is SO photoshopped. she is SO old now. not as hot as she used to be. :distress:
6. I would rather NOT have a new album and just listen to her OLD albums when she sounded better. :eek:
7. she should have worked with Producer "fill in the blank". He would have done a better job with her music :confused:
8. Nothing is good or happy ever. I hate my life! waaaaaaaaaah :(
9. This album only sold X copies. It is a failure. It should never have been released. She doesnt sell like she used to. It only hit Number 5! :mad:
10. I hate everything! I am going to sit here in my double wide with my 15 cats while i am eternally single and morbidly obese and sad and eat frosting out of the container with a wooden spoon while I watch The Rosebud bootleg and wish for the "good old days"!!!
Did I leave anything out?
You covered possibly all the bases, but perhaps one more:
11. She didn't pick my favorite demo songs, wah wah wah. That song sucks, she should have recorded this song. I'm so upset I'm never coming out of my trailer home!
BombaySapphire3
07-25-2014, 03:15 PM
No Rhiannon songs is a colossal disappointment for me. But maybe I am the only one.
I don't really see her agreeing to put just one on the album and with the known tracks filling up at this point it does not seem there will be room for them..unless she combines them in a 3 part 8 or 9 minute suite which is probably way too"proggy" for her long established style...This is all speculation of course .
KarmaContestant
07-25-2014, 03:26 PM
You covered possibly all the bases, but perhaps one more:
11. She didn't pick my favorite demo songs, wah wah wah. That song sucks, she should have recorded this song. I'm so upset I'm never coming out of my trailer home!
:laugh: Oh dear.
Danielle
07-25-2014, 03:43 PM
:laugh: The recent posts cracked me up. I'm brand new to the "fandom" and still absolutely drama free but I could imagine everything.
I am so excited for this album! :blob2:
Jondalar
07-26-2014, 06:09 AM
I am really curious about the album cover. Trouble in Shangri La was one of the best album covers of all time by any artist and the Wild Heart was great. I really liked Crystal Visions, Timespace and In Your Dreams album covers too.
The only album covers I don't really care for are Street Angel and Bella Donna. I think they both look cheap. Maybe she will come up with something very creative this time.
Artemis
07-26-2014, 10:29 AM
I'm hoping the album cover looks amazing, it's either gonna look really arty and cool or just dreadful.
The only album covers by Stevie I don' like though are Street Angel, and that bloody bubble on IYD.
michelej1
07-26-2014, 12:45 PM
I am waiting for the "not happy unless they are unhappy" ledgies to post the following crap...
1. I don't like Dave's finger prints all over the "sound" on this album. blah blah :mad:
I don't mind Dave's production fingers. But I do mind his face. I expect to see a lot of his mug in that 48 page booklet. Less horse, more Dave? I'm trying to tell myself it's an even trade.
Michele
galestreet
07-31-2014, 08:10 PM
Love the tribute, there is only one Linda, and every song was great!!
wheart
08-01-2014, 08:05 AM
I am really curious about the album cover. Trouble in Shangri La was one of the best album covers of all time by any artist and the Wild Heart was great. I really liked Crystal Visions, Timespace and In Your Dreams album covers too.
The only album covers I don't really care for are Street Angel and Bella Donna. I think they both look cheap. Maybe she will come up with something very creative this time.
Me too! My dream is a beautiful, full length shot of Stevie in white or red...anything but black, with some super cool graphics. Very simple but effective...similiar to the Bella Donna cover, even though you don't care for it. It's one of my favs. :D
HoursAndHours
08-01-2014, 11:04 AM
Me too! My dream is a beautiful, full length shot of Stevie in white or red...anything but black, with some super cool graphics. Very simple but effective...similiar to the Bella Donna cover, even though you don't care for it. It's one of my favs. :D
With all the old polaroids and stuff, I wonder if it'll be an Exile on Main Street type cover, with several photos collaged together. Speaking of which, how cool would it be if Dave Stewart worked out a duet with Stevie & Mick Jagger (who he also produces)? I can dream, right? ;)
PenguinHead
08-01-2014, 11:20 AM
No Rhiannon songs is a colossal disappointment for me. But maybe I am the only one.
We should just be grateful for the album/songs we get, and not be disappointed by the absence of what we personally wanted. It's impossible to please everyone. It's Stevie's artistic choices, not yours or mine. Let go of expectations, and it will all be fine. Find enjoyment in what it is, and not what you wanted it to be.
wheart
08-01-2014, 11:30 AM
With all the old polaroids and stuff, I wonder if it'll be an Exile on Main Street type cover, with several photos collaged together. Speaking of which, how cool would it be if Dave Stewart worked out a duet with Stevie & Mick Jagger (who he also produces)? I can dream, right? ;)
I think you're right! I'm totally getting a "patchwork" vibe about the cover...especially since these songs have been around for a long time. I'd be willing to bet money that they will use several old pics for the cover.
AnthonyMI
08-01-2014, 11:43 AM
We should just be grateful for the album/songs we get, and not be disappointed by the absence of what we personally wanted. It's impossible to please everyone. It's Stevie's artistic choices, not yours or mine. Let go of expectations, and it will all be fine. Find enjoyment in what it is, and not what you wanted it to be.
BUT, DADDY, I WANT AN OMPAH LOOMPAH NOW!!!!
BombaySapphire3
08-01-2014, 02:47 PM
BUT, DADDY, I WANT AN OMPAH LOOMPAH NOW!!!!
Now when an artist who is well known to have a particularly obsessive fan base records an album that seems to be aimed at said fan base you know it is going to release our inner Veruca Salts.:laugh:
MikeInNV
08-01-2014, 05:24 PM
I think you're right! I'm totally getting a "patchwork" vibe about the cover...especially since these songs have been around for a long time. I'd be willing to bet money that they will use several old pics for the cover.
Even though these songs were written a long time ago, they are new recordings and no different than the "vault" songs that turn up on every album. That's why I'm really hoping for a new and modern photo for the cover....to see the woman who is singing these songs today. An old photo or a collage of old photos will make it even more likely for casual fans to mistake this for a greatest hits or compilation album; the title alone is misleading enough.
HoursAndHours
08-01-2014, 05:29 PM
Even though these songs were written a long time ago, they are new recordings and no different than the "vault" songs that turn up on every album. That's why I'm really hoping for a new and modern photo for the cover....to see the woman who is singing these songs today. An old photo or a collage of old photos will make it even more likely for casual fans to mistake this for a greatest hits or compilation album; the title alone is misleading enough.
Several interviews I read, like this one (http://www.gigwise.com/news/91008/stevie-nicks-announces-new-solo-album-24-karat-gold-songs-from-the-vault), market it as an "alternative greatest hits." I think they want people to draw that conclusion.
Hawkeye
08-01-2014, 05:51 PM
Several interviews I read, like this one (http://www.gigwise.com/news/91008/stevie-nicks-announces-new-solo-album-24-karat-gold-songs-from-the-vault), market it as an "alternative greatest hits." I think they want people to draw that conclusion.
Ummmm OK. If that's the angle they want to go with fine with me, but I feel that's incredibly inaccurate. A very small portion of the population has heard any of these songs. And an even smaller portion has heard most to all of them. And then there's the fact that I'm sure AT LEAST half of these songs should sound very different to what we know especially if a song like secret love is an indication. Hell of just the 3 very small clips we've gotten only starshine sounds like a straight ahead recreation of the demo we know. 24KG sounded very different. And the third clip not one fan can identify. So either it's brand new or Dave and Stevie have drastically altered a song we all know.
So yea, to market this as any kind of "greatest hits" I feel is very false.
BlueLight
08-01-2014, 05:57 PM
Several interviews I read, like this one (http://www.gigwise.com/news/91008/stevie-nicks-announces-new-solo-album-24-karat-gold-songs-from-the-vault), market it as an "alternative greatest hits." I think they want people to draw that conclusion.
Some articles like this one may have described it as such, but I haven't heard Stevie, Dave, or anyone else describe it as such. Nor did the press release give me that impression.
That said, the "Songs From the Vault" title certainly could create a misimpression like that. :shrug:
HoursAndHours
08-01-2014, 06:04 PM
Ummmm OK. If that's the angle they want to go with fine with me, but I feel that's incredibly inaccurate. A very small portion of the population has heard any of these songs. And an even smaller portion has heard most to all of them. And then there's the fact that I'm sure AT LEAST half of these songs should sound very different to what we know especially if a song like secret love is an indication. Hell of just the 3 very small clips we've gotten only starshine sounds like a straight ahead recreation of the demo we know. 24KG sounded very different. And the third clip not one fan can identify. So either it's brand new or Dave and Stevie have drastically altered a song we all know.
So yea, to market this as any kind of "greatest hits" I feel is very false.
I think it's basically a new type of compilation. I don't know of an artist who's done something like this before. I've heard of artists reinterpreting their greatest hits (like that Bon Jovi disaster), or doing acoustic versions of their favorite (The Black Crowes), or compiling previously released rarities (e.g. Indigo Girls), or remastering existing demos to append to a best of (Like the band Live), but I've never heard of anyone taking old demos and making a compilation album by re-recording them and bringing them to full realization. Does anyone else know of one? While I agree that I wouldn't choose to market it as a greatest hits, it is sort of a compilation, that's very much driven by the times. If the internet didn't exist, this album would not likely happen, because Stevie would have to participate in tape trades to get copies of her own songs!
I do think it's legitimate to call this a compilation. Even though they're re-recorded, they're from very different periods in her career. I wouldn't mind modern photos either, but she's clearly on the "old polaroids" kick, so I would be less surprised by that. Maybe we'll get both? ;)
vivfox
08-01-2014, 06:24 PM
And the third clip not one fan can identify. So either it's brand new or Dave and Stevie have drastically altered a song we all know.
I love the sound of this.
If the internet didn't exist, this album would not likely happen, because Stevie would have to participate in tape trades to get copies of her own songs!
I'm convinced you are a past banned Ledgie who reinvented yourself into this new, fabulous person who writes with such confidence. Either way I'm glad to have you here. Welcome!
HoursAndHours
08-01-2014, 06:48 PM
I'm convinced you are a past banned Ledgie who reinvented yourself into this new, fabulous person who writes with such confidence. Either way I'm glad to have you here. Welcome!
Lol. Thanks? :D To my recollection, I never tried to sign up for a Ledge account. I know I lurked several times over the years, though. I finally decided I wanted to have fun and be a fanboy for this album, in case it's the last one.
Also, as a grad student, any compliments (or criticisms) to my writing are greatly appreciated, so thanks a ton for the confidence comment. :cool:
onlynow
08-01-2014, 07:42 PM
Do you think the real tracklist might get posted in a new thread when it surfaces? I would like this. Anyone else agree?
HoursAndHours
08-01-2014, 07:48 PM
Do you think the real tracklist might get posted in a new thread when it surfaces? I would like this. Anyone else agree?
YES. :nod:
sorcerer999
08-01-2014, 08:22 PM
Do you think the real tracklist might get posted in a new thread when it surfaces? I would like this. Anyone else agree?
I was going to update the "24KG ~ what we know versus what we don't know" thread whenever the official tracklist was released, so that we could all discuss the songs.
But we can also start a new thread too. :)
mitzo
08-01-2014, 08:47 PM
We should just be grateful for the album/songs we get, and not be disappointed by the absence of what we personally wanted. It's impossible to please everyone. It's Stevie's artistic choices, not yours or mine. Let go of expectations, and it will all be fine. Find enjoyment in what it is, and not what you wanted it to be.
Surely we are all entitled to want what we want. I am one who craves a certain type of Stevie song. I hope for that on this new release. No apologies.
Jondalar
08-01-2014, 08:51 PM
Surely we are all entitled to want what we want. I am one who craves a certain type of Stevie song. I hope for that on this new release. No apologies.
I too want the Rhiannon songs and I know she is doing this for us, but I would majorly be disappointed if they didn't make the cut, especially Maker of Birds, which I believe is one of her prettiest, most sophisticated melodies ever. I could do without the "the Black Lord of Death" line though. Also, love the darkness of Forest of Black Roses.
We waited for years, so naturally we would be disappointed. I don't understand how those songs can be denied while she records songs like Starshine Silver, Castaway… I don't get why people want those over Maker of Birds, which actually has an original, beautiful melody that morphs and takes us to different places
However, I'm betting it made the album because of that Rhiannon pic Dave had on his sound board while they were recording. Those track lists are probably totally wrong.
Johnny Stew
08-01-2014, 08:57 PM
I've never heard of anyone taking old demos and making a compilation album by re-recording them and bringing them to full realization. Does anyone else know of one?
Van Halen (with David Lee Roth) released an album called 'A Different Kind of Truth' in 2012, that featured seven new recordings/re-workings of old demos of theirs from the late '70s & early '80s, alongside six brand new songs. As I recall, it was marketed and promoted as a brand new album and not as a compilation.
I love the concept behind '24 Karat Gold,' but I really hope they treat it as the new album that it is. To market it as some sort of compilation would do the album a serious disservice. Front cover should feature a brand new photo of Stevie. The Polaroids should be saved for the liner notes, with maybe two or three laid out on the back cover.
BombaySapphire3
08-01-2014, 09:23 PM
Neil Young is another one who has recorded a lot of songs written in decades past and placed them on new albums but I really can't think of a well known recording artist who has released an entire album of songs that were all written but never released 20 plus years ago.Someone on here posted that Paul McCartney was planning on it but it never came to fruition.
bombaysaffires
08-02-2014, 01:22 AM
I don't understand why anyone would care what year a song was written. A good song is a good song. There are only so many songs on an album, and if you're a prolific writer you are always going to have to make some tough choices about what can be included and what there isn't room for. Where are those songs that don't get included supposed to go? Throw them away? Songs don't have expiration dates beyond which you can never record them. I could give a crap what year a song was written (other than some of the context about how it came to be written). I don't get offended because songs on an album weren't born five minutes before.
bombaysaffires
08-02-2014, 01:26 AM
I too want the Rhiannon songs and I know she is doing this for us, but I would majorly be disappointed if they didn't make the cut, especially Maker of Birds, which I believe is one of her prettiest, most sophisticated melodies ever. I could do without the "the Black Lord of Death" line though. Also, love the darkness of Forest of Black Roses.
We waited for years, so naturally we would be disappointed. I don't understand how those songs can be denied while she records songs like Starshine Silver, Castaway… I don't get why people want those over Maker of Birds, which actually has an original, beautiful melody that morphs and takes us to different places
However, I'm betting it made the album because of that Rhiannon pic Dave had on his sound board while they were recording. Those track lists are probably totally wrong.
I too love these songs. I just wonder how they would sound with Stevie's current voice. Part of the beauty of the demos is the clarity and flexibility of her voice. I for one doubt she could sing those songs in the same key or as fluidly as she did then. But who knows.
Bandon
08-02-2014, 04:58 AM
I too love these songs. I just wonder how they would sound with Stevie's current voice. Part of the beauty of the demos is the clarity and flexibility of her voice. I for one doubt she could sing those songs in the same key or as fluidly as she did then. But who knows.
Very good point
Jondalar
08-02-2014, 06:21 AM
I too love these songs. I just wonder how they would sound with Stevie's current voice. Part of the beauty of the demos is the clarity and flexibility of her voice. I for one doubt she could sing those songs in the same key or as fluidly as she did then. But who knows.
Well if people don't like her voice, they can always listen to the demos. Her voice on any of those songs is not going to be as good probably. The Rhiannon songs shouldn't be singled out.
welcomechris
09-28-2014, 09:37 AM
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Wonder is any of these songs will have horns on them...
Ha! "Cathouse Blues"
Interesting reading these posts now!
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