Stevie & Lindsey Intimacy [Archive] - Page 4

WildHearted

09-28-2013, 12:12 AM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/faced6a16451a500383249b75d4610ef/tumblr_mtthpgo5se1qjf9q3o1_500.jpg

This cracks me up.

I love that they paired themselves off. Too funny.

CADreaming

09-28-2013, 12:22 AM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/faced6a16451a500383249b75d4610ef/tumblr_mtthpgo5se1qjf9q3o1_500.jpg

I love that they paired themselves off. Too funny.

That is funny - I'm just getting a kick out of 1. Stevie laughing at her hair, I guess and 2. Lindsey laughing at Stevie laughing at her hair. :lol:

allie3466

09-28-2013, 01:07 AM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/faced6a16451a500383249b75d4610ef/tumblr_mtthpgo5se1qjf9q3o1_500.jpg

This cracks me up.

Stevie's face in this picture makes me so happy. ♥ Also ugh forever jealous of her hair, damn gurl.

Desiree

09-30-2013, 07:58 AM

That little dance he's doing, I think he might getting excited being that close to her. IMO he appears to be was falling for her again during this time period aka. (Thrown Down).

The more I look at The Dance Tour videos the more obvious it becomes, blatantly so towards the end. Check out this Stand Back video, for example:

http://youtu.be/oGL1HDkvTOk

Stevie is so full of herself and she just seems to have to know where Lindesy is and she plays to him...watch her smile while she sings...she is a woman who knows exactly what she's doing and he didn't stand a chance! :nod:

CADreaming

10-02-2013, 08:04 PM

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rhiannon22

10-02-2013, 09:29 PM

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OMG!!! Thank you so much for posting that! I had seen the screen shot but hadn't seen the video from that vantage point. :xoxo:

Desiree

10-03-2013, 01:53 AM

OMG!!! Thank you so much for posting that! I had seen the screen shot but hadn't seen the video from that vantage point. :xoxo:

Yes! Thank you, Thank you! I had heard of but never seen!

michelej1

10-08-2013, 10:17 PM

The BN cover is ranked 33 on the top 40 album covers of all times on beumontenterprise.com The caption says:

Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, 'Buckingham Nicks': They looked so much hotter before the guys with the beards and beer guts entered the picture. Photo: Polydor

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/entertainment/celebrities/slideshow/The-Sexiest-Album-Covers-of-All-Time-71640.php#photo-5290500

iamnotafraid

10-10-2013, 04:25 AM

The BN cover is ranked 33 on the top 40 album covers of all times...

Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, 'Buckingham Nicks': They looked so much hotter before the guys with the beards and beer guts entered the picture.

Why don't some of you talented computer people
take your best Photoshop skills and update what
the Buckingham Nicks cover would look like if it
were taken this year.

Please create a new thread for this. It might be
fun.

michelej1

10-10-2013, 02:10 PM

Hey, Christine picked Races are Run as one of her song choices in the radio program she did that's been airing this week. I got a kick out of that. Sweet.

Aww. She talks about BN and Stevie and Lindsey joining says how wonderful they were together musically and she stresses not in any other way -- at least not these days. Ha!

https://audioboo.fm/boos/1652333-tracks-of-my-years-christine-mcvie-thursday-10th-october

Michele

CADreaming

10-12-2013, 05:02 PM

Desiree

10-12-2013, 05:07 PM

CADreaming

10-12-2013, 05:23 PM

Anybody know what happened? Looks like they bumped heads ansd she says, "Ouch!" :lol:

No, they didn't. In another video angle she patted her shoulder for him to lay his head there as she walked over.

Desiree

10-12-2013, 10:24 PM

No, they didn't. In another video angle she patted her shoulder for him to lay his head there as she walked over.

Well, there goes that! Love her smile tho!:]

CADreaming

10-13-2013, 09:06 PM

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-13-2013/nK7LHm.gif (http://www.makeagif.com/nK7LHm)

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/snl_mac_iconsandbanners/gdwrockon_zps4342206e.gif (http://s302.photobucket.com/user/trufan70/media/snl_mac_iconsandbanners/gdwrockon_zps4342206e.gif.html)

iamnotafraid

10-13-2013, 11:07 PM

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-13-2013/nK7LHm.gif (http://www.makeagif.com/nK7LHm)

If you look closely, you can see her mouth
the words "go home to your wife".

michelej1

10-13-2013, 11:38 PM

If you look closely, you can see her mouth
the words "go home to your wife".

"Leave the key here."

Michele

CADreaming

10-14-2013, 08:52 AM

If you look closely, you can see her mouth
the words "go home to your wife".

Really?? I thought it was "Gitchi Gitchi Goo".

seekerj

10-14-2013, 02:17 PM

Really?? I thought it was "Gitchi Gitchi Goo".

Close! It's 'gitchi gitchi yi-yi-ya-ya'... voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?

CADreaming

10-14-2013, 02:25 PM

Close! It's 'gitchi gitchi yi-yi-ya-ya'... voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?

:lol::lol::lol:

seekerj

10-14-2013, 03:03 PM

:lol::lol::lol:

Oh, I'm so glad someone 'got' that! lol ... wasn't sure if anyone would recognize that old song, plus the two in question were just in France...

Desiree

10-14-2013, 03:16 PM

Close! It's 'gitchi gitchi yi-yi-ya-ya'... voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?

Jeezus....either they deserve a flipping Academy Award or SOMETHING is up! And, Stevie wants to be in love again....watch out, Lindsey, because if Stevie throws all caution to the wind...I'd imagine she could be formidable! :sorry: just saying...

CADreaming

10-14-2013, 03:19 PM

Oh, I'm so glad someone 'got' that! lol ... wasn't sure if anyone would recognize that old song, plus the two in question were just in France...

Haha. Yeah, I got it. :thumbsup:

CADreaming

10-14-2013, 03:48 PM

I still want to know what happened before the Sara hug in Amsterdam, inquiring minds need to know....:confused:

Nothing. :shrug:

StreetAngel86

10-14-2013, 06:22 PM

Close! It's 'gitchi gitchi yi-yi-ya-ya'... voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

He says, "Why don't you just take me home?

:nod:

Desiree

10-14-2013, 10:48 PM

Nothing. :shrug: Amsterdam Sara hug....

My friends were there and were at the stage in the middle of S&L and said that various comments were made around them in the audience and it was obvious somethinghad happened but they weren't sure what...since I wasn't there and it was here say for my friends, I'll keep it to myself. That's why I ask... :shrug:

Desiree

10-14-2013, 10:57 PM

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Paris must have been a hell of a show!:]

CADreaming

10-15-2013, 10:17 AM

Amsterdam Sara hug....

My friends were there and were at the stage in the middle of S&L and said that various comments were made around them in the audience and it was obvious somethinghad happened but they weren't sure what...since I wasn't there and it was here say for my friends, I'll keep it to myself. That's why I ask... :shrug:

Wow! How cryptic! :rolleyes:

The Catdancer

10-15-2013, 10:35 AM

Wow! How cryptic! :rolleyes:

I think Danax6 said in her review that they did hug but that she pushed him away in the end (I'm paraphrasing). One of my Dutch friends who was there said the same thing and thought it was weird.

Desiree

10-15-2013, 10:58 AM

Wow! How cryptic! :rolleyes:

I don't have an answer, only know what I heard... so cryptic or not I'm not spreading it because I know I have to watch my p's and q's!:shrug:

I will say I was really confused because my friends went to two shows and I got them mixed up...:sorry: K? People sure are testy around here lately. Didn't know you ran the board CADreaming...do you? :confused:

CADreaming

10-15-2013, 11:21 AM

I think Danax6 said in her review that they did hug but that she pushed him away in the end (I'm paraphrasing). One of my Dutch friends who was there said the same thing and thought it was weird.

Thanks, Debbie.

Are we talking about Amsterdam? I don't see that here at all:

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In Paris, she lost her footing going into the hug and LB was doing a little more wild swinging with the guitar. Doesn't look like there was any pushing though?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/kQ5RubFybdA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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I don't have an answer, only know what I heard... so cryptic or not I'm not spreading it because I know I have to watch my p's and q's!:shrug:

Really? Then why bring it up if you aren't going to say? Get real.

Didn't know you ran the board CADreaming...do you?

Hahahahahahaha. Ha.

vivfox

10-15-2013, 11:34 AM

Amsterdam Sara hug....My friends were there and were at the stage in the middle of S&L and said that various comments were made around them in the audience and it was obvious somethinghad happened but they weren't sure what...since I wasn't there and it was here say for my friends, I'll keep it to myself. That's why I ask... :shrug:

Wow! How cryptic! :rolleyes:

People sure are testy around here lately. Didn't know you ran the board CADreaming...do you? :confused:

Asking for an explanation about something so silly does not make one testy.

Really? Then why bring it up if you aren't going to say? Get real.

I'm always baffled when someone brings up a topic that piques the interest of others and then the original poster becomes testy when questioned. Desiree, what ever answer you come up with is the correct one. We are just curious observers to some good L&S drama.

CADreaming

10-15-2013, 11:37 AM

Asking for an explanation about something so silly does not make one testy.

I'm always baffled when someone brings up a topic that piques the interest of others and then the original poster becomes testy when questioned. Desiree, what ever answer you come up with is the correct one. We are just curious observers to some good L&S drama.

Exactly, Viv! :)

Anyway, nice pic from Amsterdam...

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/93aeee084c5a618704bf24d6e1486a8c_zps04c7192c.jpg

Deeshere

10-15-2013, 11:50 AM

Exactly, Viv! :)

Anyway, nice pic from Amsterdam...

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/93aeee084c5a618704bf24d6e1486a8c_zps04c7192c.jpg

Ahhh..It just keeps getting better and better. ;)

applebucked

10-15-2013, 12:51 PM

Cute! :D

Also love Lindsey's outfit there.

The Catdancer

10-15-2013, 01:00 PM

Well, my apologies to everybody. I've been looking for Danax6's review and couldn't find it and she wasn't even at the Amsterdam show but at the Antwerp show. Anyway, CAD, I don't see any pushing either but I'm sure I read somewhere that they hugged and she pushed him away in the end. Maybe I'm just going nuts :confused:

BTW, did anyone else notice that Stevie wipes his mic when she's done singing?? I remember during SYW after Mick's drum solo, a guy quickly came from the side and wiped his mic. I can see why Lindsey would like to have a clean mic after Mick's been spitting on it but Stevie??? It's not like they never exchanged bodily fluids before...

The Catdancer

10-15-2013, 01:09 PM

Found a video of Sara in Antwerp. Judge for yourselves :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4WBhSwp7qo

michelej1

10-15-2013, 01:24 PM

I think Danax6 said in her review that they did hug but that she pushed him away in the end (I'm paraphrasing). One of my Dutch friends who was there said the same thing and thought it was weird.

I don't think Vanessa meant that literally. My take is she just meant that Stevie was cold that night. My impression was not that she actually pushed Lindsey away, but probably wanted to, from the overall vibe she gave off.

Michele

Deeshere

10-15-2013, 01:43 PM

Well, my apologies to everybody. I've been looking for Danax6's review and couldn't find it and she wasn't even at the Amsterdam show but at the Antwerp show. Anyway, CAD, I don't see any pushing either but I'm sure I read somewhere that they hugged and she pushed him away in the end. Maybe I'm just going nuts :confused:

Here's the thread you are talking about: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=52765

The 9th post down is where Danax6 talks about Stevie pushing Lindsey away after the Sara hug.

michelej1

10-15-2013, 01:57 PM

BTW, did anyone else notice that Stevie wipes his mic when she's done singing?? I remember during SYW after Mick's drum solo, a guy quickly came from the side and wiped his mic. I can see why Lindsey would like to have a clean mic after Mick's been spitting on it but Stevie??? It's not like they never exchanged bodily fluids before...

Well, at least she didn't wipe the mic before she sang into it. That would rather have spoiled the mood.

Maybe she just wiped it off afterwards out of force of habit. She always towels down the ellipticals at 24 Hour Fitness after she uses them too!

Michele

WildHearted

10-15-2013, 03:01 PM

So he has gone past sniffing her hair to actually tasting it?

CADreaming

10-15-2013, 03:06 PM

Well, my apologies to everybody. I've been looking for Danax6's review and couldn't find it and she wasn't even at the Amsterdam show but at the Antwerp show. Anyway, CAD, I don't see any pushing either but I'm sure I read somewhere that they hugged and she pushed him away in the end. Maybe I'm just going nuts :confused:

BTW, did anyone else notice that Stevie wipes his mic when she's done singing?? I remember during SYW after Mick's drum solo, a guy quickly came from the side and wiped his mic. I can see why Lindsey would like to have a clean mic after Mick's been spitting on it but Stevie??? It's not like they never exchanged bodily fluids before...

Found a video of Sara in Antwerp. Judge for yourselves :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4WBhSwp7qo

Debbie, you have nothing to apologize for. I just wasn't sure which show you were talking about - I haven't read all the reviews & the UK/Euro tour is running together to me.

Didn't they say they had all been a little sick though? I'm sure that's where this mic wiping started, although I'm not sure what good it's doing lol.

Thanks for the link. I can't tell she pushes him away any more than pushes off him or just a general balancing act trying not to hit the guitar. *shrug* She's giving him the pat/back scratch anyway. :)

CADreaming

10-15-2013, 03:07 PM

So he has gone past sniffing her hair to actually tasting it?

:lol: yum!

WildHearted

10-15-2013, 03:08 PM

Well, my apologies to everybody. I've been looking for Danax6's review and couldn't find it and she wasn't even at the Amsterdam show but at the Antwerp show. Anyway, CAD, I don't see any pushing either but I'm sure I read somewhere that they hugged and she pushed him away in the end. Maybe I'm just going nuts :confused:

BTW, did anyone else notice that Stevie wipes his mic when she's done singing?? I remember during SYW after Mick's drum solo, a guy quickly came from the side and wiped his mic. I can see why Lindsey would like to have a clean mic after Mick's been spitting on it but Stevie??? It's not like they never exchanged bodily fluids before...

Probably just a precautionary measure to prevent the spreading of germs and as a result, prevent Lindsey from getting sick if Stevie does.

Although they hug and hold hands enough that I don't think her wiping off the mic is going to do much good.

danax6

10-15-2013, 04:03 PM

Yeah, I was partly referring to how cold things seemed to be between S&L. The Sara hug stood out to me because it does look like she sort of pushes him away, but maybe that's just what it looked like from my angle? And my view may be warped by the non-loving I felt the entire evening.

I have a close up video of the hug, if anyone is interested?

missundercover

10-15-2013, 04:21 PM

In the end I think we have to remember that most steps at the shows are scripted.

I mean... when you see the two of them talking about each other in interviews it's not always roses and sunshine and that's fine. They ARE intense people. Still there is affection so sometimes it shows on stage as well and other times it's the opposite.
Like they say: hate (although that word is too strong) is not the opposite of love. That is indifference and that is nothing I get from these two.
Touring together (I'm sure) is very tiring and also a challenge. If you take into count that they are very different characters I'd say: all in all they manage fairly well, no?

elle

10-15-2013, 04:56 PM

Yeah, I was partly referring to how cold things seemed to be between S&L. The Sara hug stood out to me because it does look like she sort of pushes him away, but maybe that's just what it looked like from my angle? And my view may be warped by the non-loving I felt the entire evening.

I have a close up video of the hug, if anyone is interested?

it's interesting, most shows i've seen they were very warm, loving and friendly to each other, but every now and then at some show one or the other would come across as really cold... which i guess would normally make sense being on the road, but the way it was expressed was a bit odd. there were 2 shows i was at that stood out for me where Stevie was being particularly cold. actually that's not entirely correct, more like angry? shooting daggers at him and not cracking a smile when he would try to engage her, smooth the situation, make faces or smile at her. one of those was his birthday show in Glasgow. this was particularly bizarre considering it was his birthday but she seemed so pi**ed specifically at him. :shrug: the positives that came out of that was that WY intro was more off the cuff, and the ending of Silver Springs as well as Say Goodbye were pretty intense. :thumbsup:

Touring together (I'm sure) is very tiring and also a challenge. If you take into count that they are very different characters I'd say: all in all they manage fairly well, no?
completely agree. :nod:

Deeshere

10-15-2013, 05:17 PM

I have a close up video of the hug, if anyone is interested?

Yes, if you have a close up then please post it. I'm always up for more videos. :thumbsup:

CADreaming

10-15-2013, 05:54 PM

it's interesting, most shows i've seen they were very warm, loving and friendly to each other, but every now and then at some show one or the other would come across as really cold... there were 2 shows i was at that stood out for me where Stevie was being particularly cold. actually that's not entirely correct, more like angry? shooting daggers at him and not cracking a smile when he would try to engage her, smooth the situation, make faces or smile at her. one of those was his birthday show in Glasgow. this was particularly bizarre considering it was his birthday but she seemed so pi**ed specifically at him. :shrug: the positives that came out of that was that WY intro was more off the cuff, and the ending of Silver Springs as well as Say Goodbye were pretty intense. :thumbsup:

Then maybe you misread that "coldness" altogether. They seemed pretty cozy at the encore bow - you know when she held her hand out to him waiting for him to come back as he went to his mic to get a pick - and then he kissed her hand and said something to her and she smiled and nodded yes before he gave the pick to the fan.

She hardly ever comes across to me as cold. I've seen her when I thought she was very nervous or preoccupied or even worried. I think there may be other reasons - she may not feel good, she may have had a bad day, she may be tired, not feel up to the show; maybe she was upset at someone else or have things on her mind. Honestly, and I'm not saying she never gets mad at Lindsey - we all know that's not true - I'm just saying we can't always interpret her emotions to be aimed at him just because he is the one on equal footing with her onstage. Hell, they could be mad at catering for not having Coca-Cola or the right coffee (or whatever else). :lol: But, Stevie herself has said their onstage interaction does get affected by what happened that day, that's just normal and to be expected.

Overall, I thought the vibe was pretty good at Glasgow from the videos I've seen.

StreetAngel86

10-15-2013, 06:04 PM

Exactly, Viv! :)

Anyway, nice pic from Amsterdam...

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/93aeee084c5a618704bf24d6e1486a8c_zps04c7192c.jpg

WOW!! saw this on twitter and just WOOOOOOOOOOW
love their black 'matching' outfits
and Lindsey ... just what the hell you doing :lol:

elle

10-15-2013, 06:10 PM

Then maybe you misread that "coldness" altogether. They seemed pretty cozy at the encore bow - you know when she held her hand out to him waiting for him to come back as he went to his mic to get a pick - and then he kissed her hand and said something to her and she smiled and nodded yes before he gave the pick to the fan.

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i399/ellellew/handleaving_zps1fdded40.jpg (http://s1091.photobucket.com/user/ellellew/media/handleaving_zps1fdded40.jpg.html)
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i399/ellellew/handintheair_zps1c8d3a1a.jpg (http://s1091.photobucket.com/user/ellellew/media/handintheair_zps1c8d3a1a.jpg.html)

:laugh: you know, i may have misread for sure, but that was the vibe i got being at the show, as opposed to watching sparse videos. when they first came out she was happy, he was kinda down. by the 3rd song, their moods flipped and mostly stayed that way throughout the show.

again, just an impression, i may be completely off.

i wish there were more vids from that show, b/c it was a great show, great audience, and a lot happening. wish there was a video of audience singing happy birthday to Lindsey. hopefully it still resurfaces.

CADreaming

10-15-2013, 06:17 PM

:laugh: you know, i may have misread for sure, but that was the vibe i got being at the show, as opposed to watching sparse videos. when they first came out she was happy, he was kinda down. by the 3rd song, their moods flipped and mostly stayed that way throughout the show.

again, just an impression, i may be completely off.

i wish there were more vids from that show, b/c it was a great show, great audience, and a lot happening. wish there was a video of audience singing happy birthday to Lindsey. hopefully it still resurfaces.

I'm sure it was a great show.
Who did she dedicate Landslide to, or were you paying attention?
When did the birthday singing happen?

elle

10-15-2013, 06:20 PM

I'm sure it was a great show.
Who did she dedicate Landslide to, or were you paying attention?
lol, good question. it was weird, she was talking on and on about some (Swedish?) bird that someone had and that she named Rhiannon for them. so she dedicated it to that bird. :laugh:

When did the birthday singing happen?
when Lindsey started introducing Tusk album, before Not That Funny. so hopefully, maybe someone somewhere has NTF video with the intro...

vivfox

10-15-2013, 06:37 PM

it was weird, she was talking on and on about some (Swedish?) bird that someone had and that she named Rhiannon for them. so she dedicated it to that bird. :laugh:

She wasted a dedication on a ****ing bird?

elle

10-15-2013, 07:18 PM

She wasted a dedication on a ****ing bird?

i believe so, yes. but i'm not paying that much attention as CAD so nicely says, so maybe someone else who was there would know better. :p :lol:

in Cologne and Amsterdam she said she doesn't know anyone there so couldn't really dedicate it to anybody, and therefore is dedicating it to the whole audience.

also, someone must have also told her after Glasgow that it's not the best etiquette to accuse multilingual European people of not understanding English, so she kinda apologized at both of those shows for saying that in Glasgow.

CADreaming

10-15-2013, 11:07 PM

lol, good question. it was weird, she was talking on and on about some (Swedish?) bird that someone had and that she named Rhiannon for them. so she dedicated it to that bird. :laugh:

when Lindsey started introducing Tusk album, before Not That Funny. so hopefully, maybe someone somewhere has NTF video with the intro...

Cool. thanks. and lol

She wasted a dedication on a ****ing bird?

And, LOL! :lol:

i believe so, yes. but i'm not paying that much attention as CAD so nicely says,

Thanks, I tried. :angel:

Great pic here too:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/BN/SnLencoreoct2013_zpsa0c7153c.jpeg

Desiree

10-16-2013, 12:53 AM

So he has gone past sniffing her hair to actually tasting it?

Hahahaha!:lol:

vivfox

10-16-2013, 01:20 AM

Frankly the "curious observers to some good L&S drama" seem to be treated rather poorly all around on these boards. It's one of the reasons so many members troll instead of join in. Some things never change...
Think I'll step back too, but I'm thick skinned. I'm 57 years old and I just get over the crap that comes along with this type of forum. Again my opinion. I enjoy the ledge and most of the posters a lot, btw.

Ok first of all you threw this quote into my quote and I never wrote this:>>> Actually, I believe there has been considerable dissension lately, it seemed to me that Elle was getting it the other day, seems like someone's always on the s**t list TO ME, my opinion!<<< I don't know where you pulled this paragraph from, but if you are gonna quote me, you should quote only what I write, not someone else's doing.
Another thing is, I have no idea what has got you in such a mood? You brought up a topic, CAD questioned you on it, and you got pissy about it. This all makes no sense. And who are you to tell us that this is the reason so many members lurk instead of post? Did you have a convention of former posters and everyone agreed the L&S drama observers need to stay lurking so they don't have to answer any questions?

On edit;
Now I see that you have deleted your rude post between posts 806 and 807. I hope the Mods will read what you wrote so you cannot hide behind a delete function. I do not appreciate you or anyone else putting words in my quote that I did not write. Who knows how many people saw that before you deleted it?

Desiree

10-16-2013, 01:56 AM

Ok first of all you threw this quote into my quote and I never wrote this:>>> Actually, I believe there has been considerable dissension lately, it seemed to me that Elle was getting it the other day, seems like someone's always on the s**t list TO ME, my opinion!<<< I don't know where you pulled this paragraph from, but if you are gonna quote me, you should quote only what I write, not someone else's doing.
Another thing is, I have no idea what has got you in such a mood? You brought up a topic, CAD questioned you on it, and you got pissy about it. This all makes no sense. And who are you to tell us that this is the reason so many members lurk instead of post? Did you have a convention of former posters and everyone agreed the L&S drama observers need to stay lurking so they don't have to answer any questions?

On edit;
Now I see that you have deleted your rude post between posts 806 and 807. I hope the Mods will read what you wrote so you cannot hide behind a delete function. I do not appreciate you or anyone else putting words in my quote that I did not write. Who knows how many people saw that before you deleted it?
Wow! I am very sorry that my post was not written in an understandable way for you or that it was written incorrectly...the words were mine, I put quotations around your words! And, the way you mistook my meaning....I am so stunned! When you rethink something and try to change it sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for not letting me cut down on some of this hostility by deleting what I thought might cause more trouble than it was worth! That is why there is a delete! Thinking people change their minds here and there. Who are you to treat me this way? And who are you to expect me to answer your questions? Especially if I can't be honest about how I feel? I hope the moderators will read everything I wrote, CADreaming wrote and every hateful word that you have written in return. I am completely blown away by your tirade. Couldn't be sorrier as I truly can't believe this, would never in a million years have wanted to be a part of something so ugly! There are a handful of you who rule over this board...well have at it. I read in different places online about how the ledgies are viewed by others, on Twitter and such...how you can't speak your mind without this happening or being booted off, you must think as does the crowd. I'm a Ledgie from way back so I'm aware of how things really are...this most recent experience has definitely proven those things out. Now, can you or anyone else tell me what I did to deserve this, was I that unclear?

Desiree

10-16-2013, 02:12 AM

Ok first of all you threw this quote into my quote and I never wrote this:>>> Actually, I believe there has been considerable dissension lately, it seemed to me that Elle was getting it the other day, seems like someone's always on the s**t list TO ME, my opinion!<<< I don't know where you pulled this paragraph from, but if you are gonna quote me, you should quote only what I write, not someone else's doing.
Another thing is, I have no idea what has got you in such a mood? You brought up a topic, CAD questioned you on it, and you got pissy about it. This all makes no sense. And who are you to tell us that this is the reason so many members lurk instead of post? Did you have a convention of former posters and everyone agreed the L&S drama observers need to stay lurking so they don't have to answer any questions?

On edit;
Now I see that you have deleted your rude post between posts 806 and 807. I hope the Mods will read what you wrote so you cannot hide behind a delete function. I do not appreciate you or anyone else putting words in my quote that I did not write. Who knows how many people saw that before you deleted it?

I must not have done something right to make my post follow the post I am replying to correctly, my apologies. But, Vivfox, go back and read my first post and you should be able to follow what I said versus what you said easily. And that's all for me...

iamnotafraid

10-16-2013, 02:18 AM

Now I see that you have deleted your rude post between posts 806 and 807. I hope the Mods will read what you wrote so you cannot hide behind a delete function...

Look in the mirror bro.

The Catdancer

10-16-2013, 05:31 AM

I don't think Vanessa meant that literally. My take is she just meant that Stevie was cold that night. My impression was not that she actually pushed Lindsey away, but probably wanted to, from the overall vibe she gave off.

Michele

I knew I read it somewhere :)

The Catdancer

10-16-2013, 05:32 AM

Here's the thread you are talking about: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=52765

The 9th post down is where Danax6 talks about Stevie pushing Lindsey away after the Sara hug.

Thanks, Deeshere!

The Catdancer

10-16-2013, 05:36 AM

Debbie, you have nothing to apologize for. I just wasn't sure which show you were talking about - I haven't read all the reviews & the UK/Euro tour is running together to me.

Didn't they say they had all been a little sick though? I'm sure that's where this mic wiping started, although I'm not sure what good it's doing lol.

Thanks for the link. I can't tell she pushes him away any more than pushes off him or just a general balancing act trying not to hit the guitar. *shrug* She's giving him the pat/back scratch anyway. :)

I hate to start something and not being able to follow through, that's why I apologized :)

I haven't heard anything about them feeling sick. Wouldn't be the first time though.

And yes, she's patting him on the back so it's probably all good.

The Catdancer

10-16-2013, 05:37 AM

Probably just a precautionary measure to prevent the spreading of germs and as a result, prevent Lindsey from getting sick if Stevie does.

Although they hug and hold hands enough that I don't think her wiping off the mic is going to do much good.

Not really when they're so close as hugging. Maybe Lindsey has something against spit on his mic :shrug:

danax6

10-16-2013, 05:47 AM

She hardly ever comes across to me as cold. I've seen her when I thought she was very nervous or preoccupied or even worried. I think there may be other reasons - she may not feel good, she may have had a bad day, she may be tired, not feel up to the show; maybe she was upset at someone else or have things on her mind. Honestly, and I'm not saying she never gets mad at Lindsey - we all know that's not true - I'm just saying we can't always interpret her emotions to be aimed at him just because he is the one on equal footing with her onstage. Hell, they could be mad at catering for not having Coca-Cola or the right coffee (or whatever else). :lol: But, Stevie herself has said their onstage interaction does get affected by what happened that day, that's just normal and to be expected.

This. Stevie just wasn't feeling it that night, which I'm sure all tied into them skipping Silver Springs as well.

Here's the video I promised:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZartBdHoSvM&feature=youtu.be

CADreaming

10-16-2013, 08:52 AM

This. Stevie just wasn't feeling it that night, which I'm sure all tied into them skipping Silver Springs as well.

Here's the video I promised:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZartBdHoSvM&feature=youtu.be

Thanks for posting! Great vid. :)

CADreaming

10-16-2013, 09:33 AM

Glasgow caps:

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CADreaming

10-16-2013, 09:35 AM

bombaysaffires

10-16-2013, 11:01 AM

CADreaming

10-16-2013, 11:49 AM

The only thing she said was:

MUAH! :xoxo:

Deeshere

10-16-2013, 12:18 PM

Thanks, Deeshere!

Your very welcome :)

After I posted it, it occurred to me that it might seem like I was trying to call some of the members out for being inaccurate and I wanted to says that honestly that was not my intention. I was just knew what post you were referring to and went to find it for you.

Deeshere

10-16-2013, 12:26 PM

I must not have done something right to make my post follow the post I am replying to correctly, my apologies. But, Vivfox, go back and read my first post and you should be able to follow what I said versus what you said easily. And that's all for me...

Hey, no reason for you to stop posting. We all get have disagreements from time to time (present company included) but we all have a love for the same band or individual member(s) and that bonds us in a weird, sometimes messed up way. I don't know what was posted that started the disagreement, nor am I trying to get it all restarted again. I just wanted you to know I like your post and want to continue reading them.

Deeshere

10-16-2013, 12:36 PM

This. Stevie just wasn't feeling it that night, which I'm sure all tied into them skipping Silver Springs as well.

Here's the video I promised:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZartBdHoSvM&feature=youtu.be

I think it's all a matter of visual perspective. Depending on where you sit things look different from different angles. From your video, I could see that it appears that Stevie could have been pushing off Lindsey. Plus you have to add in the fact that when you are at a concert things move very fast, your adrenaline is pumping, your trying to take in everything that's happening all at once, and brain doesn't always catch everything or you remember something one way, but when you watch the video it's a little different. So I don't think you said anything wrong from your own perspective.

As to wiping off the mic....:shrug: You know maybe Stevie spit on it and was trying to be polite and wipe it off. She it does appear she was not feeling well that night and her voice was kinda weak. She very well could have been getting sick and was trying to keep it from spreading. I did notice that Lindsey's head was actually laying on her shoulder this time and his face was turned in the opposite direction of Stevie's. He's wasn't eating her hair or whatever else he usually does during that dance, so I think it could have been just caution.

elle

10-16-2013, 06:42 PM

Glasgow caps:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/ebf9c537cd86db046ebf6e987b0b63d8/tumblr_murmxwSce61s75zl0o4_250.png

:lol: the only time she cracked a smile during that whole show. ;)

(thank you WelshWItchPMD for recording these, we'd have almost nothing from this show if it weren't for you! :xoxo: )

elle

10-16-2013, 06:46 PM

She it does appear she was not feeling well that night and her voice was kinda weak. She very well could have been getting sick and was trying to keep it from spreading. I did notice that Lindsey's head was actually laying on her shoulder this time and his face was turned in the opposite direction of Stevie's. He's wasn't eating her hair or whatever else he usually does during that dance, so I think it could have been just caution.

seems they skip Silver Springs when she's not feeling well, and it's a harder one for her to sing.

but, from what i heard, Lindsey was coughing a lot throughout that Antwerpen show, so he was already sick anyway.

now what can you all conclude from this - they were both sick at the same time? hmmm..... :rolleyes:

CADreaming

10-16-2013, 07:37 PM

:lol: the only time she cracked a smile during that whole show. ;)

No way were you paying close enough attention to her to know that!! Lol :lol::lol:

michelej1

10-16-2013, 07:45 PM

Here's the video I promised:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZartBdHoSvM&feature=youtu.be

Nice video. It would be funny if some night she just really used a little leverage and shoved him. He's got that guitar which shifts his center of gravity. She could take him down.

Michele

bombaysaffires

10-16-2013, 07:59 PM

Nice video. It would be funny if some night she just really used a little leverage and shoved him. He's got that guitar which shifts his center of gravity. She could take him down.

Michele

don't think it hasn't crossed her mind...:nod:

Deeshere

10-16-2013, 08:28 PM

seems they skip Silver Springs when she's not feeling well, and it's a harder one for her to sing.

but, from what i heard, Lindsey was coughing a lot throughout that Antwerpen show, so he was already sick anyway.

now what can you all conclude from this - they were both sick at the same time? hmmm..... :rolleyes:

Both sick?? I didn't know that. Well Lindsey did say during the Glasgow show he wanted to "talk" to Stevie later about her "sleazy" comment, so maybe they shared a soda (or something) together during the "conversation" and got sick. :shrug: It sometimes takes a few days for an "illness" to set in. :lol:

michelej1

10-16-2013, 09:52 PM

:lol: the only time she cracked a smile during that whole show. ;)

(thank you WelshWItchPMD for recording these, we'd have almost nothing from this show if it weren't for you! :xoxo: )

Thank you Pattie. The videos are getting fewer and we're so lucky when you're in attendance.

They're just waiting until New Zealand to totally make out when they think no one will capture it on video.

Michele

Deeshere

10-16-2013, 11:33 PM

They're just waiting until New Zealand to totally make out when they think no one will capture it on video.

Michele

I can only hope.

vivfox

10-16-2013, 11:56 PM

They're just waiting until New Zealand to totally make out when they think no one will capture it on video.

Ha ha ha. Good one.

nicole21290

10-17-2013, 12:07 AM

presented without comment because i think these speak quite well for themselves

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/sara1gif_zps0aa4c619.gif

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/sara2gif_zpse7ce17d5.gif

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/sara3gif_zpsb3745afe.gif

CADreaming

10-17-2013, 12:14 AM

presented without comment because i think these speak quite well for themselves

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/sara1gif_zps0aa4c619.gif

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/sara2gif_zpse7ce17d5.gif

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/sara3gif_zpsb3745afe.gif

Sweet! These are awesome!

WelshWitchPMD

10-17-2013, 04:01 AM

:lol: the only time she cracked a smile during that whole show. ;)

(thank you WelshWItchPMD for recording these, we'd have almost nothing from this show if it weren't for you! :xoxo: )

You are welcome.
I believe I have video from both Amsterdam and Antwerp of the Sara hug. As for Antwerp, it seems both Stevie and Lindsey weren't feeling very well. That would be the reason for wiping and dropping Silver Springs.

missundercover

10-17-2013, 09:05 AM

Well - that would explain why I had the impression that Stuttgart and Cologne Lindsey were so different.
On another note: I love the posted gifs!!

elle

10-17-2013, 07:24 PM

Well - that would explain why I had the impression that Stuttgart and Cologne Lindsey were so different.
On another note: I love the posted gifs!!

so you thought he was more energetic or something in Cologne?

was he under the weather in Stuttgart?

from what i've heard he was only sick in Antwerpen and already better by Paris, but i'm not sure.

CADreaming

10-17-2013, 08:05 PM

WITHOUT YOU caps:

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http://24.media.tumblr.com/059eb2f6ee5d72dd1563eb31a517ab87/tumblr_mtyuuulLap1s75zl0o3_250.jpg

Stevie blows a kiss:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/148c864cf8b07abd38552ea3442b977f/tumblr_mtyuuulLap1s75zl0o4_250.jpg

CADreaming

10-17-2013, 08:22 PM

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michelej1

10-17-2013, 08:27 PM

^The fifth one is cute when she winks towards the audience.

Lindsey looks congested in those GIFs.

Michele

CADreaming

10-17-2013, 08:48 PM

^The fifth one is cute when she winks towards the audience.

Lindsey looks congested in those GIFs.

Michele

I love the wink too. I think LB looks hot - as in attractive - not as in temperature. And, there's just few things better than Stevie laughing.

kak125

10-17-2013, 09:05 PM

awe i freaking love those gifs they make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. i love watching stevie's face light up like a christmas tree when lb kisses her head. way too freaking cute and those two still have such amazing chemistry i love that.

iamnotafraid

10-17-2013, 10:05 PM

Is Kristen traveling with them on this tour?

michelej1

10-17-2013, 10:28 PM

She wasted a dedication on a ****ing bird?

This may have something to do with that. Article from Ayrshire Post:

http://www.i4u.com/2013/10/stevie-nicks/world-legion-over-news-n-roll-all-fans-ayrshire-she-s-legen

She’s a rock ‘n’ roll legend with a legion of fans all over the world.

Oct 18 2013 by Edwin Lawrence, Ayrshire Post

And Stevie Nicks has a very special friend right here in Ayrshire.

He is ace falconer Jamie Dempsey, 33, who first met Stevie four years ago.

The superstar was at Turnberry Hotel, where Jamie was putting on a falconry show.

And she got an aide to approach Jamie to see if she could talk to him, and see his birds.

“It certainly was okay,” said Jamie, who instantly hit it off with the singer.

And he has even named one of his birds Rhiannon, after a Fleetwood Mac song that was written by Stevie.

The band have just played Glasgow’s new £125 million Hydro venue.

And guess who got a VIP backstage pass?

Yes, Jamie was there, and was able to take three friends along.

They had the best seats in the house for Fleetwood Mac’s dynamic show.

“Then we were shown into Stevie’s dressing room,” said Jamie. We were the only people allowed back there after the gig.”

Jamie has met up with Stevie several times since their first encounter.

“She even gave me a shout during the gig – the second time she’s done a dedication like that.”

Stevie showed Jamie her digital camera, where she keeps images of all his beautiful birds.

“Stevie told me runs the images on big TV screens in her house, because she loves them so much.

“And when her friends – people like Tom Petty – drop by, they love to see them too.

“Stevie told me there’s never a day goes by without her looking at the pictures.”

Jamie clearly values his firendship with superstar Stevie, an incredible 65-year-old.

The lucky friends who went to the gig with him were DJ/drummer PJ Coyle, his sister Cara, and girlfriend Nikki Gordon.

PJ said: “It was inspirational to meet someone who has been playing live and writing music for decades, and who still has the same passion.”

Perhaps it’s passion that Stevie recognises in Jamie, who lost part of his left leg when a drunk driver ran in to him.

For the brave young golf course greenkeeper went on to build a new career for himself as a falconer.

His talent was first recognised working at Turnberry Hotel’s outdoor pursuits centre.

But now Jamie is about to launch his own High Park Falconry business, based in the countryside near Kirkoswald. And he already has celebrity fans ready to support him.

CADreaming

10-17-2013, 10:35 PM

^Whoa, now! Getting all high tech on us there, Stevie what with your digital camera and your fancy big screens!

iamnotafraid

10-17-2013, 10:36 PM

Yes, Jamie was there, and was able to take three birds along.

They had the best seats in the house for Fleetwood Mac’s dynamic show.

This intentional misquote was what I saw in
my brain before I read it through.

MikeInNV

10-17-2013, 10:40 PM

^Whoa, now! Getting all high tech on us there, Stevie what with your digital camera and your fancy big screens!

I know. And Lily Rabe just let it out of the bag that Stevie and Ryan Murphy have been emailing.

nicole21290

10-18-2013, 06:07 AM

I know. And Lily Rabe just let it out of the bag that Stevie and Ryan Murphy have been emailing.

I'm horrified! And I would guess e-mail may also be used when writing to Lea too ("She had been writing Lea [Michele] and I regularly since the Cory [Monteith] situation") unless Karen has been charged with hand delivery of letters, lol. :D

Sapphire Girl

10-18-2013, 04:02 PM

Is Kristen traveling with them on this tour?

With the kids being in school, I would have been surprised if Kristen or Brittany or Tiffany or whatever she calls herself these days made an appearance in Europe.

Deeshere

10-18-2013, 04:36 PM

With the kids being in school, I would have been surprised if Kristen or Brittany or Tiffany or whatever she calls herself these days made an appearance in Europe.

Actually if she (or Lindsey) wanted to she could leave the kids with the nannie(s) for a bit. She was actually photographed in October 2009 with Lindsey in Antwerp during the last Fleetwood Mac tour.

CADreaming

10-27-2013, 12:38 PM

michelej1

10-27-2013, 02:49 PM

^Oh, that was incredibly sweet and that was spurred by John and the end of the tour.

Lindsey nodding his head when she asked if he could hear her was so lovely.

Thanks for the transcription as well, CAD.

Michele

danax6

10-27-2013, 02:51 PM

She sounds so... final. Very sweet, though.

michelej1

10-27-2013, 02:57 PM

If I'd been at the show and hadn't heard the rumors and I heard that dedication I don't know what I would have thought.

Ha, I just know that John wanted them to leave him alone and not do anything gooey to him. That's why I want to hear what Stevie said in WY. She couldn't get too sentimental, but she probably tipped her hand a little anyway.

Michele

danax6

10-27-2013, 03:01 PM

Yeah, but why address it all to Lindsey, when he's not the one who's sick? This sounds like a goodbye to me. I hope not.

The Catdancer

10-27-2013, 03:04 PM

If I'd been at the show and hadn't heard the rumors and I heard that dedication I don't know what I would have thought.

Ha, I just know that John wanted them to leave him alone and not do anything gooey to him. That's why I want to hear what Stevie said in WY. She couldn't get too sentimental, but she probably tipped her hand a little anyway.

Michele

I think WY got dropped.

michelej1

10-27-2013, 03:09 PM

Yeah, but why address it all to Lindsey, when he's not the one who's sick? This sounds like a goodbye to me. I hope not.

I guess they didn't do Say Goodbye. That would have been a doozy to watch.

Well, even if the intro is intended to be a goodbye things can change. But it sounded like a goodbye to Lindsey and not FM, right? If it sounded like a goodbye to Lindsey, we know it's not that. She'll be arguing with him about something or another soon enough. If I heard it and hadn't heard about John, I wonder if I would have thought there was a danger to LB's health. I guess it would depend on what her behavior towards him during the rest of the show was like.

CAD we were talking about Mick saying 18 months and maybe this is why. Maybe he was thinking that John needed 6 months to recover. So, he said 18 months and not a year. That's also why, if it's true that Chris said she would join the tour in LATE 2014, that is so. Because they knew the first half of 2014 would be occupied, but they are hoping that things will be ok for the last half.

Michele

michelej1

10-27-2013, 03:09 PM

I think WY got dropped.

OK. I know someone posted a list of the songs that didn't make it and I lost track.

Michele

elle

10-27-2013, 03:19 PM

OK. I know someone posted a list of the songs that didn't make it and I lost track.

Michele

reposting:

Without You
Gypsy
Eyes
Say Goodbye

danax6

10-27-2013, 03:20 PM

Well, even if the intro is intended to be a goodbye things can change. But it sounded like a goodbye to Lindsey and not FM, right? If it sounded like a goodbye to Lindsey, we know it's not that. She'll be arguing with him about something or another soon enough. If I heard it and hadn't heard about John, I wonder if I would have thought there was a danger to LB's health. I guess it would depend on what her behavior towards him during the rest of the show was like.

She starts thanking the band, Fleetwood Mac, and then tears up and thanks Lindsey. Safe to say that had it not been for him she wouldn't be where she is today, so that makes sense. It did sound like a goodbye to Fleetwood Mac to me. But I do hope there's truth to the 2014/Christine rumors (in more ways than one), so that we can assume they are approaching this with optimism and hope.

missundercover

10-27-2013, 04:00 PM

This theory makes me sad - I really hope there is NO saying goodbye, yet.

CADreaming

10-27-2013, 05:18 PM

That's why I want to hear what Stevie said in WY. She couldn't get too sentimental, but she probably tipped her hand a little anyway.

Michele

I guess they're saying the time factor may have had something to do with the songs being dropped, but I don't think she could have gotten through WY and Say Goodbye. Lindsey got visibly choked up and she did a little the night before on SG.

Yeah, but why address it all to Lindsey, when he's not the one who's sick? This sounds like a goodbye to me. I hope not.

If I heard it and hadn't heard about John, I wonder if I would have thought there was a danger to LB's health.

She starts thanking the band, Fleetwood Mac, and then tears up and thanks Lindsey. Safe to say that had it not been for him she wouldn't be where she is today, so that makes sense. It did sound like a goodbye to Fleetwood Mac to me. .

Goodness, it didn't sound like any kind of goodbye to me. It just sounded like she is recognizing how important people are in light of the situation with John and wanted to publicly share how important Lindsey is to her. She's been trying to do that the entire tour in the WY intros and since they didn't have that moment, she made this a little more personal.

CAD we were talking about Mick saying 18 months and maybe this is why. Maybe he was thinking that John needed 6 months to recover. So, he said 18 months and not a year. That's also why, if it's true that Chris said she would join the tour in LATE 2014, that is so. Because they knew the first half of 2014 would be occupied, but they are hoping that things will be ok for the last half.

Michele

Could be, Michele. I guess throwing a random number out there is possible, but it just seemed like there was a pretty specific reason for putting it like he did.

WildHearted

10-27-2013, 05:22 PM

I don't see it as a final goodbye, I think she was just emotional because - as optimistic as we all may be -the reality is there's a possibility it COULD be the last show (god forbid). And I guess for whatever reason, she wanted to make sure Lindsey knew all of that, in case they never stepped on stage as Fleetwood Mac again.

Additionally, news like this often punches you in the gut and makes you reevaluate all of the relationships in your life. John being ill was likely a reality check that none of them, herself and Lindsey included, are infallible. I could easily see that prompting her to speak out her gratitude as she did. Although I think the passing of her mother had much of the same effect, it still isn't quite the same as when someone your own age and on your own "level" per say falls into a tragic circumstance. That's when the "it could have been me" or "it could have been you" sort of feelings really start to bubble over. Gives you a new perspective and makes you realize how important people are in your life.

michelej1

10-27-2013, 08:44 PM

I guess they're saying the time factor may have had something to do with the songs being dropped, but I don't think she could have gotten through WY and Say Goodbye. Lindsey got visibly choked up and she did a little the night before on SG.

Imagine when we get a close up of Lindsey's face during the Landslide intro. Well, if he heard her. He was nodding, but we don't know.

Michele

CADreaming

10-27-2013, 09:01 PM

Imagine when we get a close up of Lindsey's face during the Landslide intro. Well, if he heard her. He was nodding, but we don't know.

Michele

If we get one. It's pretty slim pickings this leg for the interaction moments. :(

WildHearted

10-27-2013, 09:12 PM

I don't think she could have gotten through WY and Say Goodbye. Lindsey got visibly choked up and she did a little the night before on SG.

Do you have a link to the video of SG? I don't think I saw it.

michelej1

10-27-2013, 09:15 PM

Do you have a link to the video of SG? I don't think I saw it.

It's in the 10/23 thread. But it's not the full song.

Michele

CADreaming

10-27-2013, 09:16 PM

Do you have a link to the video of SG? I don't think I saw it.

http://youtu.be/Dp790_zgvSI

ragrsrocalot

10-27-2013, 09:23 PM

Stevie actually let it slip during the WY intro in Sweden, ( @ 7:43 ) that she was glad she only had to do the intro one more time. I wondered why she said that. Now I know.:( <iframe width="480" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/MZHErRc-lj8?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'msoAfraid95

10-27-2013, 09:28 PM

CADreaming

10-27-2013, 09:28 PM

Stevie actually let it slip during the WY intro in Sweden, ( @ 7:43 ) that she was glad she only had to do the intro one more time. I wondered why she said that. Now I know.:(

Yeah I noticed that too and thought she was just being Stevie.

michelej1

10-27-2013, 09:38 PM

So, now Stevie and Lindsey fired the other guys in their band "for personal reasons" and not because they had no choice (and were heartbroken) when they found out the record company didn't want them?

Michele

CADreaming

10-27-2013, 09:56 PM

So, now Stevie and Lindsey fired the other guys in their band "for personal reasons" and not because they had no choice (and were heartbroken) when they found out the record company didn't want them?

Michele

Yes. That and it would have lengthened the story by 5 minutes.

vivfox

10-27-2013, 10:56 PM

Stevie actually let it slip during the WY intro in Sweden, ( @ 7:43 ) that she was glad she only had to do the intro one more time. I wondered why she said that. Now I know.

Yeah I noticed that too and thought she was just being Stevie.

What I gathered from that statement was "the one more time" meant they had one more show to do to wrap up the European Tour. Hence, one more time to tell the WY story before the Aus./NZ segment of the tour. The sweedish show was on a Wednesday. John could have gotten the bad news on Thursday or Friday. And the last show was Saturday night. I don't think they knew about John's diagnosis until after the Wed. show. But really, what the heck do I know. I'm just speculating.

CADreaming

10-28-2013, 08:44 AM

What I gathered from that statement was "the one more time" meant they had one more show to do to wrap up the European Tour. Hence, one more time to tell the WY story before the Aus./NZ segment of the tour. The sweedish show was on a Wednesday. John could have gotten the bad news on Thursday or Friday. And the last show was Saturday night. I don't think they knew about John's diagnosis until after the Wed. show. But really, what the heck do I know. I'm just speculating.

Could be. I was putting 2 and 2 together from Lindsey's choking up on SG.

WildHearted

10-28-2013, 09:51 AM

When I heard theat WY intro, at first I thought, "so she's not doing the WY intro in Aus/NZ?" But then I reasoned that she must have just meant the end of this leg.

Now, I think they probably knew then that there wasn't goin to be another leg.

CADreaming

10-28-2013, 10:12 AM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/61042b06efd472c9adfc289ba4b99ec5/tumblr_mvd7entsVO1sn8si8o1_500.jpg

jannieC

10-28-2013, 11:12 AM

I don't see it as a final goodbye, I think she was just emotional because - as optimistic as we all may be -the reality is there's a possibility it COULD be the last show (god forbid). And I guess for whatever reason, she wanted to make sure Lindsey knew all of that, in case they never stepped on stage as Fleetwood Mac again.

Additionally, news like this often punches you in the gut and makes you reevaluate all of the relationships in your life. John being ill was likely a reality check that none of them, herself and Lindsey included, are infallible. I could easily see that prompting her to speak out her gratitude as she did. Although I think the passing of her mother had much of the same effect, it still isn't quite the same as when someone your own age and on your own "level" per say falls into a tragic circumstance. That's when the "it could have been me" or "it could have been you" sort of feelings really start to bubble over. Gives you a new perspective and makes you realize how important people are in your life.
I agree with all of this, 100%. This band has so much history together; I'm sure they're all feeling emotional- Stevie is just usually the one to vocalize it.

And I guess for whatever reason, she wanted to make sure Lindsey knew all of that, in case they never stepped on stage as Fleetwood Mac again.

Oh, for some reason this statement resonated with me. I'm not ready...

shackin'up

10-28-2013, 11:38 AM

I was there, in Amsterdam. It was a very vivid, heartfelt and driven show. The fact that they dropped 4 songs (elles list is correct), was due to the techprobs. But to be honest, the whole show blew me away, and it felt like their last ever ( in Europe) to me. I did not know about John until the next day. he played fabulous. It was the best show I ever saw from them, with a tremendous pace.

When did Lindsey choke up during say goodbye during this tour??

michelej1

10-28-2013, 12:59 PM

I was there, in Amsterdam. It was a very vivid, heartfelt and driven show. The fact that they dropped 4 songs (elles list is correct), was due to the techprobs. But to be honest, the whole show blew me away, and it felt like their last ever ( in Europe) to me. I did not know about John until the next day. he played fabulous. It was the best show I ever saw from them, with a tremendous pace.

When did Lindsey choke up during say goodbye during this tour??

What a show to have attended in person! I get chills thinking about what it must have been like to be in the audience. Although, I might have been mourning the songs that were dropped, initially, once I heard the news, I would have realized how lucky I'd been.

We were talking about the Say Goodbye from 10/23.

Michele

michelej1

10-28-2013, 01:06 PM

I remember Stevie saying to John that when they got to Australia she would tell ANOTHER part of the WY story and maybe he would want to chip in then. Kind of sad in retrospect.

Looking at the WY from 10/23, I bet when she turned to him, she didn't even want to look at him for too long as she spoke. Then, for the final bow, there's that one picture someone posted where it looks like John may have made a comment and Lindsey is looking at him and laughing.

Michele

BigLove

10-28-2013, 01:51 PM

OK, let´s get in shipper mood for a moment. :angel:

I´ve noticed that Lindsey sometimes licks his lips before leaning in on Stevie during concerts.
In another video he kisses his wife and he does the exact same routine with the lip licking. The difference is that he doesn´t look as obsessed as he tend to do when Stevie´s the object...

What do we make of this? ;)

michelej1

10-28-2013, 02:14 PM

OK, let´s get in shipper mood for a moment. :angel:

I´ve noticed that Lindsey sometimes licks his lips before leaning in on Stevie during concerts.
In another video he kisses his wife and he does the exact same routine with the lip licking. The difference is that he doesn´t look as obsessed as he tend to do when Stevie´s the object...

What do we make of this? ;)

I don't know, but as much as I laugh at the things Lindsey does (I think he has a thing for her hair), when I was looking at the tall guy in Lady Antebellum stooping down to lean into Stevie it seemed so weird. I thought, "Oh my goodness. I'm glad Lindsey's not tall enough to do that."

Michele

danax6

10-28-2013, 03:53 PM

I don't see it as a final goodbye, I think she was just emotional because - as optimistic as we all may be -the reality is there's a possibility it COULD be the last show (god forbid). And I guess for whatever reason, she wanted to make sure Lindsey knew all of that, in case they never stepped on stage as Fleetwood Mac again.

This is exactly what I meant. I think history has proven that Stevie and Lindsey can never quite say goodbye to each other. :lol:

BigLove

10-28-2013, 06:37 PM

Don´t know if this has been up in any threads before, but here´s a very funny kinda walkthrough on SS från The Dance. :lol:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:X_-lEyRwyGsJ:nowherebutpop.com/2013/06/19/everything-you-ever-needed-to-know-about-fleetwood-mac-in-under-six-minutes/+&cd=6&hl=sv&ct=clnk&gl=se

allie3466

10-28-2013, 08:11 PM

Don´t know if this has been up in any threads before, but here´s a very funny kinda walkthrough on SS från The Dance. :lol:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:X_-lEyRwyGsJ:nowherebutpop.com/2013/06/19/everything-you-ever-needed-to-know-about-fleetwood-mac-in-under-six-minutes/+&cd=6&hl=sv&ct=clnk&gl=se

"'... I’ll just play one of the most beautiful and sorrow filled solos ever to show you that I care.' For all intents and purposes, this is the child that the two of them never had. This solo means more to the two of them than it could ever mean to anyone else."

I realize this is supposed to be a funny/satirical thing but that part... ouch. That made me a tad emotional, lol.

singertobe

10-28-2013, 11:52 PM

This is a little video clip from the Philly-Unleashed Show 2009, I believe the second and third picture above were taken during this time. I don't remember what the details were, but they definitely had a good laugh about it. Crappy quality clip, but I posted anyway.

<embed width="600" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullscreen="true" allowNetworking="all" wmode="transparent" src="http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf" flashvars="file=http%3A%2F%2Fvid977.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae256%2Fragesrocalot%2FMOV03613.mp4">

I always thought in that video he was about to tickle her and she just puts her hands up like "No!" Probably not it though.:confused: I think a picture of Lindsey tickling Stevie would be cute though :)

BigLove

10-29-2013, 03:43 AM

"'... I’ll just play one of the most beautiful and sorrow filled solos ever to show you that I care.' For all intents and purposes, this is the child that the two of them never had. This solo means more to the two of them than it could ever mean to anyone else."

I realize this is supposed to be a funny/satirical thing but that part... ouch. That made me a tad emotional, lol.

I know... It´s so spot on it´s ridiculous. Aww... how I want, no NEED, them to get back together! :rolleyes::shrug::angel:

shackin'up

10-29-2013, 03:57 PM

We were talking about the Say Goodbye from 10/23.

Michele

OK. Do you refer to the always had to fight- line?

michelej1

10-29-2013, 05:02 PM

OK. Do you refer to the always had to fight- line?

Yes.

Michele

shackin'up

10-29-2013, 06:05 PM

Yes.

Michele

Thought so. Touching. I'm still recovering from the Amsterdam experience. The vibe was very special. I thought it was because of the extremely long wait and the growing feeling of that it may not happen at all. I stood 15 yards from Lindsey's mike for three and a half hours. When they hit second hand news the relieve in the arena was huge. What happened on stage was so lively I could almost touch it.

michelej1

10-29-2013, 06:30 PM

Thought so. Touching. I'm still recovering from the Amsterdam experience. The vibe was very special. I thought it was because of the extremely long wait and the growing feeling of that it may not happen at all. I stood 15 yards from Lindsey's mike for three and a half hours. When they hit second hand news the relieve in the arena was huge. What happened on stage was so lively I could almost touch it.

I can imagine that you were all afraid that any minute some arena spokesperson would come to the mic and say that the show was cancelled and tell you how to get a refund. So, when those lights went down I bet people went WILD.

Just looking at Landslide from that show is incredibly moving, so I'm sure words can't express how it felt like being there for the entire thing.

Michele

teedeerocks

10-30-2013, 06:00 AM

More from Unleashed...

Pretend Ice Skating:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/FM%20Unleashed%202009/fleetwoodmac2009149.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/FM%20Unleashed%202009/41509SnLPhillySteviekaratemoves.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/FM%20Unleashed%202009/5509SnLinStLouis.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/FM%20Unleashed%202009/52309SnLencoreAnaheim.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/FM%20Unleashed%202009/53109SnLSanDiego.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/FM%20Unleashed%202009/41809ColumbusSnLflowers.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/FM%20Unleashed%202009/52409SnLSaraPhoenix.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/FM%20Unleashed%202009/6809SnLfacingMilwaukee.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/trufan70/FM%20Unleashed%202009/52409SnLencorePhoenix.jpg

7th one down=true love.Lindsay looks like his feelings for Stevie are so deep that he loses his composure.I know they've said before that what they do onstage is just an act because the audience seems to love it but IMO I think not.Kristen can't be ok with this unless their marriage is just one of conveinence or for the sake of the kids.
"Makes you lose your composure-it's overwhelming."

BigLove

10-30-2013, 09:23 AM

7th one down=true love.Lindsay looks like his feelings for Stevie are so deep that he loses his composure.I know they've said before that what they do onstage is just an act because the audience seems to love it but IMO I think not.Kristen can't be ok with this unless their marriage is just one of conveinence or for the sake of the kids.
"Makes you lose your composure-it's overwhelming."

I totally agree!
If that´s an act Lindsey should get a whole bunch of Oscars. Where´s the pic taken btw?

nicole21290

10-30-2013, 11:08 AM

Got to love those Unleashed pictures. I do so love the incredible 'neutrality' that both Stevie and Lindsey have talked about from that tour. Can really see that on display here, guys...

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/88f86fdb7bbe7b017c3b966dbaf62908_zpse51cc264.jpg

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/601b85f0fdab386d0544bbbfd7004a08_zpscdc3fe51.jpg

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/f812f30f5c556883e8e34b4d6b96dcec_zps5a0d1ef6.jpg

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/c3954eca0f798cec066cb1ccc09a9bf1_zps3d1679c2.jpg

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/6b1dbad99297dcac14104e1968f7165e_zps47c5d578.jpg

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/8ed46ea2a2c5901b25450957a14f6895_zps44ba8643.jpg

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/7d04291661306d3140d573684ccbfce5_zps699bab78.jpg

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/62214e261a1b72a55f994271ea4fe2ea_zps9392f324.jpg

nicole21290

10-30-2013, 04:11 PM

Just happened to be on reddit and stumbled across a post from someone who went to one of the American shows this year. They were slightly taken aback when they were looking back through their photos and so linked readers to this hysterical question and set of pictures. :D

http://m.imgur.com/uLm62dq

BigLove

10-30-2013, 04:15 PM

Just happened to be on reddit and stumbled across a post from someone who went to one of the American shows this year. They were slightly taken aback when they were looking back through their photos and so linked readers to this hysterical question and set of pictures. :D

http://m.imgur.com/uLm62dq

Haha, he´s trying to get inside her - anyway possible! ;)

MichaelaM

10-30-2013, 04:49 PM

They both seem like very horny people! Especially Lindsey in the way he bangs against his guitar!

Erin

10-30-2013, 06:41 PM

Got to love those Unleashed pictures. I do so love the incredible 'neutrality' that both Stevie and Lindsey have talked about from that tour. Can really see that on display here, guys...

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/601b85f0fdab386d0544bbbfd7004a08_zpscdc3fe51.jpg

I took this shot. I love how my watermark is gone, ah the Internet.

nicole21290

10-30-2013, 07:50 PM

I took this shot. I love how my watermark is gone, ah the Internet.

Apologies for that. Didn't realise. xoxo

I'msoAfraid95

10-30-2013, 07:53 PM

They both seem like very horny people! Especially Lindsey in the way he bangs against his guitar!

Stevie has stated, on the Behind the Music I think, that they were excellent lovers. ;)

Erin

10-30-2013, 08:04 PM

Apologies for that. Didn't realise. xoxo

No worries, I found it an odd shot for whomever bothered to take the watermark off, because it's a blurry photo!

michelej1

10-30-2013, 08:20 PM

Stevie has stated, on the Behind the Music I think, that they were excellent lovers. ;)

I think Lindsey made that comment, in the context that they were good lovers, but not otherwise compatible.

Michele

WildHearted

10-30-2013, 08:30 PM

I think Lindsey made that comment, in the context that they were good lovers, but not otherwise compatible.

Michele

I recall him saying that as well. Good lovers, but never good friends, or something of the sort.

MoonSister75

10-31-2013, 06:07 AM

Don´t know if this has been up in any threads before, but here´s a very funny kinda walkthrough on SS från The Dance. :lol:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:X_-lEyRwyGsJ:nowherebutpop.com/2013/06/19/everything-you-ever-needed-to-know-about-fleetwood-mac-in-under-six-minutes/+&cd=6&hl=sv&ct=clnk&gl=se

this is great! so funny :lol: thanks for posting

I love it when Stevie and Lindsay sing to each other in Sara - "I'll go anywhere......just ask me and I'm there...." I've loved seeing in on the tour, knowing that they still are going anywhere and everywhere together :] And sometimes Lindsay can't help smiling when they sing it - so so cute!

vivfox

10-31-2013, 08:31 AM

And sometimes Lindsay can't help smiling when they sing it - so so cute!

Is she still dating Samantha Ronson?

MoonSister75

10-31-2013, 11:40 AM

ooops :shocked:

how did I manage that? I have a sister called Lindsay - it gets confusing :lol:

WildHearted

11-01-2013, 04:44 PM

Can't embed because I'm on my phone, but the end of this video is Lindsey's say goodbye speech from the second to last show.

He talks about how he's know Stevie since he was sixteen and they've been down a long road together and it's easy to take things for granted, but he now realizes that thy are at a point in their lives where you can't take anything for granted anymore, so he dedicates the song to Stevie.

Pretty heavy considering what we now know were the circumstances. Also very sweet.

http://youtu.be/A6GvTUEUCU0

missundercover

11-01-2013, 05:32 PM

Also very sweet.

This! :o .
Also: thank you for posting. The recording and audio is great on this video. The whole concert was recorded by this utube-user.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyOdJ0ZgEZw&list=UU7BVqAcKYs2dX78PO7askaA

Just watched part 26 (Say Goodbye): I love watching these two sing to each other. I can't get over how well these voices sound together. Sigh. And... watching the last bow - they are totally oblivious to anything else than each other. :cool:

MoonSister75

11-02-2013, 09:06 AM

Can't embed because I'm on my phone, but the end of this video is Lindsey's say goodbye speech from the second to last show.

Pretty heavy considering what we now know were the circumstances. Also very sweet.

http://youtu.be/A6GvTUEUCU0

This! :o .

Just watched part 26 (Say Goodbye): I love watching these two sing to each other. I can't get over how well these voices sound together. Sigh. And... watching the last bow - they are totally oblivious to anything else than each other. :cool:

oh my goodness, these are both wonderful - thank you :nod:

teedeerocks

11-02-2013, 04:50 PM

If you look at this video, at the end around 3:07 Lindsey comes out and you can see their embrace from a different angel and actually see them talking - a little bit anyway.

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/r_flQEWfsZg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Looks like he says to Stevie"no problem" at the end of their embrace.

teedeerocks

11-03-2013, 12:30 AM

I think it was MSG.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kuECM-n_7ts?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Boy that Stevie can talk!!! I can't imagine what she'd be like on coke!!:D

iamnotafraid

11-03-2013, 01:42 AM

I can't imagine what she'd be like on coke!!:D

With YouTube you don't have to imagine.

ragrsrocalot

11-06-2013, 11:00 PM

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4886297/lindsey-and-stevie-tusk-hug-msg-2013-o.gif (http://gifsoup.com/view/4886297/lindsey-and-stevie-tusk-hug-msg-2013.html) GIFSoup (http://gifsoup.com)

ragrsrocalot

11-06-2013, 11:14 PM

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fleetwoodmeg

01-02-2014, 11:18 AM

So what do my shipper friends think of say goodbye from 12/30? I'm still crying lol!

aprilsrain

01-02-2014, 12:06 PM

So what do my shipper friends think of say goodbye from 12/30? I'm still crying lol!

Was an incredibly powerful moment on stage. Lindsey DID give a nod to the wife and kids at the show though so I think it's just a stage thing!

brickney723

01-02-2014, 12:15 PM

Was an incredibly powerful moment on stage. Lindsey DID give a nod to the wife and kids at the show though so I think it's just a stage thing!

Hi, can you give us the details?

As far as the video goes, even though she always says she has no regrets, I think I see it.. I wish somebody had videotaped HIM, I've seen 5436 videos of this song with her reaction only!

aprilsrain

01-02-2014, 12:32 PM

Hi, can you give us the details?

As far as the video goes, even though she always says she has no regrets, I think I see it.. I wish somebody had videotaped HIM, I've seen 5436 videos of this song with her reaction only!

I was in about row V. It was a brief shout out to his wife/kids in the middle of one of his speeches, can't remember the exacts. I watched him through most of the song, which he spent mostly locked eyes with her as well though I wasn't close up enough to really see that great in terms of emotional content. I was more focused on listening because it was just so beautiful. Energy/emotion wise the show was the most exciting/memorable at least for me since 97 when Christine was with the group. They seemed a little tighter as a band than in the 2009 tour.

fleetwoodmeg

01-02-2014, 02:27 PM

Locked eyes with his wife or Stevie?

fleetwoodmeg

01-02-2014, 02:43 PM

Hi, can you give us the details?

As far as the video goes, even though she always says she has no regrets, I think I see it.. I wish somebody had videotaped HIM, I've seen 5436 videos of this song with her reaction only!

I see that too, that's what is so upsetting! And now I know his wife was there, I feel extra bad she got so upset

allie3466

01-02-2014, 03:56 PM

Stevie couldn't take her eyes off Lindsey the whole night. I honestly didn't look at him much because I ended up planted right at Stevie's feet, and once I was right there it's really hard to look away from her. The pain on her face during Say Goodbye was heartbreaking - she was definitely trying to hold back a full on breakdown, she was shaking a little like she was trying to hold everything in. There's the obvious stuff like the I love you's/"let's go home, Lindsey," and the SG dedication. During the, "I think I had met my match," lyric in Sara, she turned to Lindsey and gestured out to him and he kind of turned and walked over toward her. All kinds of smiles to each other all night, and so much love between them.

When my friends and I got back to our hotel, the power was out in a certain part so we joked that the sparks flying between Stevie and Lindsey broke Vegas, lol.

fleetwoodmeg

01-02-2014, 06:05 PM

Stevie couldn't take her eyes off Lindsey the whole night. I honestly didn't look at him much because I ended up planted right at Stevie's feet, and once I was right there it's really hard to look away from her. The pain on her face during Say Goodbye was heartbreaking - she was definitely trying to hold back a full on breakdown, she was shaking a little like she was trying to hold everything in. There's the obvious stuff like the I love you's/"let's go home, Lindsey," and the SG dedication. During the, "I think I had met my match," lyric in Sara, she turned to Lindsey and gestured out to him and he kind of turned and walked over toward her. All kinds of smiles to each other all night, and so much love between them.

When my friends and I got back to our hotel, the power was out in a certain part so we joked that the sparks flying between Stevie and Lindsey broke Vegas, lol.
What an eventful show to be at! You guys must of had a blast! Thanks for sharing your memories :) I saw them in Albany months ago! I think his wife must be very sure of herself to watch that!

Deeshere

01-02-2014, 06:16 PM

I was in about row V. It was a brief shout out to his wife/kids in the middle of one of his speeches, can't remember the exacts. I watched him through most of the song, which he spent mostly locked eyes with her as well though I wasn't close up enough to really see that great in terms of emotional content. I was more focused on listening because it was just so beautiful. Energy/emotion wise the show was the most exciting/memorable at least for me since 97 when Christine was with the group. They seemed a little tighter as a band than in the 2009 tour.

So his wife and kids were there. I was wondering if they were there or not. I still don't see how Kristen can handle it. Even if you say it's all for show, it's still got to hurt to see your husband on stage telling his Ex he loves her and giving beautiful dedications to her.

Whether it's friends or anything else the fact is Lindsey does actually loves Stevie. I don't see how anyone can dispute that. Mick has said it multiple times, Lindsey's has now said it on stage (obviously in front of his wife and kids) and Stevie's alluded to it in past interviews, and she even went as far as to say Lindsey is still sorry they ever broke up and if he had it to do all over again he would do things differently (I'm assuming she got this information from talking directly to Lindsey) and the loving and sweet talk between the two of them has only gotten stronger and stronger as the tour has progressed.

I don't think for one minute that Kristen doesn't like and isn't mad about it, but Lindsey does what he want's to do and you either fall in line or move on.

I've always wondered....how do you explain this all to your kids?? I know you can tell them that it's all for show and Stevie is Daddy's long time "special friend", but it's got to be confusing to them, especially Stella. Stevie comes to your house to work with daddy and is eats dinner with you and your family. Then you get to see daddy up on stage saying I love you Stevie and acting so sweet and loving towards his band mate/friend/ex-girlfriend.

It's a really messed up situation all together. The best thing for both of them when they first broke up would have been for them to just have made a clean break of it and to have never seen each other again, but then we would not have all that great Fleetwood Mac music to listen too.

WildHearted

01-02-2014, 06:46 PM

You can love someone without being in love with them. I'm as big of a BN person as anyone, but I don't think there's anything bizarre about telling someone you've known for nearly half a century that you love them (although, it IS especially touching to hear it between the two of them given their roller-coaster history) so I don't think that it would require some grand explanation to his kids. You love lots of people in life, not just people that you date/marry. It's not as if Lindsey's children don't know Stevie and know they've been in a band together forever and I'm sure they probably also know they used to date. I just don't think it would be confusing - she's not a stranger, ya know?

I think they have fun up there messing with each other and being sentimental, and I think there's real love/adoration/annoyance/whatever other feelings behind it - I don't think it's all for show. But MOST of the stuff they do (there are some exceptions - neck kiss? kind of odd), while sweet and cute and all that jazz, I don't find to be totally out-of-line or cause for any sort of concern for his family. But I think I've said before that I'm an inherently emotional/touchy-feely person so maybe to others some of that seems totally weird. Or maybe I'm just becoming immune to the ridiculousness of Stevie & Lindsey's dynamic.

fleetwoodmeg

01-02-2014, 06:48 PM

So his wife and kids were there. I was wondering if they were there or not. I still don't see how Kristen can handle it. Even if you say it's all for show, it's still got to hurt to see your husband on stage telling his Ex he loves her and giving beautiful dedications to her.

Whether it's friends or anything else the fact is Lindsey does actually loves Stevie. I don't see how anyone can dispute that. Mick has said it multiple times, Lindsey's has now said it on stage (obviously in front of his wife and kids) and Stevie's alluded to it in past interviews, and she even went as far as to say Lindsey is still sorry they ever broke up and if he had it to do all over again he would do things differently (I'm assuming she got this information from talking directly to Lindsey) and the loving and sweet talk between the two of them has only gotten stronger and stronger as the tour has progressed.

I don't think for one minute that Kristen doesn't like and isn't mad about it, but Lindsey does what he want's to do and you either fall in line or move on.

I've always wondered....how do you explain this all to your kids?? I know you can tell them that it's all for show and Stevie is Daddy's long time "special friend", but it's got to be confusing to them, especially Stella. Stevie comes to your house to work with daddy and is eats dinner with you and your family. Then you get to see daddy up on stage saying I love you Stevie and acting so sweet and loving towards his band mate/friend/ex-girlfriend.

It's a really messed up situation all together. The best thing for both of them when they first broke up would have been for them to just have made a clean break of it and to have never seen each other again, but then we would not have all that great Fleetwood Mac music to listen too.

I agree! That's who I feel bad for is his kids because people can say its for show, and I'm sure some of it is, but when they get choked up or cry or even Lindsey saying most of his songs are about Stevie has got to count for something!

fleetwoodmeg

01-02-2014, 06:51 PM

You can love someone without being in love with them. I'm as big of a BN person as anyone, but I don't think there's anything bizarre about telling someone you've known for nearly half a century that you love them (although, it IS especially touching to hear it between the two of them given their roller-coaster history) so I don't think that it would require some grand explanation to his kids. You love lots of people in life, not just people that you date/marry. It's not as if Lindsey's children don't know Stevie and know they've been in a band together forever and I'm sure they probably also know they used to date. I just don't think it would be confusing - she's not a stranger, ya know?

I think they have fun up there messing with each other and being sentimental, and I think there's real love/adoration/annoyance/whatever other feelings behind it - I don't think it's all for show. But MOST of the stuff they do (there are some exceptions - neck kiss? kind of odd), while sweet and cute and all that jazz, I don't find to be totally out-of-line or cause for any sort of concern for his family. But I think I've said before that I'm an inherently emotional/touchy-feely person so maybe to other's some of that seems totally weird. Or maybe I'm just becoming immune to the ridiculousness of Stevie/Lindsey's dynamic.

Sometimes I start to become immune and then I fall back into the trap

Deeshere

01-02-2014, 08:52 PM

You love lots of people in life, not just people that you date/marry. It's not as if Lindsey's children don't know Stevie and know they've been in a band together forever and I'm sure they probably also know they used to date. I just don't think it would be confusing - she's not a stranger, ya know?

I agree with you there are many different kinds of love, but Stevie and Lindsey have a long and extremely documented relationship. When Stevie starts talking about how Lindsey blames Fleetwood Mac of their break up and wishes they had never joined, or the fact that (even now) he's still sorry they broke up and would do things differently if he could.. You have to think that maybe there's more to this relationship than just friendship. If he was/ is happily married or loves Stevie like a friend now, why is Lindsey still have these types of conversations with his ex girlfriend?

Also, (and I maybe totally wrong about this) but I'm not so sure his kids knew that Stevie was their dad's ex girlfriend. When Stevie did her WY story in front of Lindseys wife and kids the first time in May, 2013 she was very careful to retract parts of her story (ex: she didn't say things like... when me and Lindsey moved to LA together or when me and Lindsey lived together in L.A.) and also said she was Lindsey' s "friend" the girlfriend part of the story was dropped ..I originally thought she was being respectful to Lindseys wife and kids,(and maybe she was)but then something seemed to changed because the second time around in July, 2013 when they were in front of Lindseys wife and kids, Stevie all but made Lindsey do the "you have to take my girlfriend too " part of the story.... which to me he seemed very uncomfortable doing.

If his kids were aware that Stevie was Lindsey' s ex girlfriend then I don't see why Stevie changed her story the first time she told it in front of his kids and refered to herself as dad's friend unless the kids didn't know they use to date/live together and as they grew closer throughout the tour though it seems Stevie decided to stop pretending and wanted to be honest and not hide their past relationship anymore though I'm not sure why..

WildHearted

01-02-2014, 09:16 PM

I agree with you there are many different kinds of love, but Stevie and Lindsey have a long and extremely documented relationship. When Stevie starts talking about how Lindsey blames Fleetwood Mac of their break up and wishes they had never joined, or the fact that (even now) he's still sorry they broke up and would do things differently if he could.. You have to think that maybe there's more to this relationship than just friendship. If he was/ is happily married or loves Stevie like a friend now, why is Lindsey still have these types of conversations with his ex girlfriend?

No, I don't think you could ever classify Stevie and Lindsey as plain old friends - like you said, there's too much baggage/history/drama between the two of them.

I just don't think any of that negates the possibility of also loving someone in a completely non-romantic way on top of all the messy stuff. I've heard many a divorced couple express sentiments to the same effect.

Also, (and I maybe totally wrong about this) but I'm not so sure his kids knew that Stevie was their dad's ex girlfriend. When Stevie did her WY story in front of Lindseys wife and kids the first time in May, 2013 she was very careful to retract parts of her story (ex: she didn't say things like... when me and Lindsey moved to LA together or when me and Lindsey lived together in L.A.) and also said she was Lindsey' s "friend" the girlfriend part of the story was dropped ..I originally thought she was being respectful to Lindseys wife and kids,(and maybe she was)but then something seemed to changed because the second time around in July, 2013 when they were in front of Lindseys wife and kids, Stevie all but made Lindsey do the "you have to take my girlfriend too " part of the story.... which to me he seemed very uncomfortable doing.

If his kids were aware that Stevie was Lindsey' s ex girlfriend then I don't see why Stevie changed her story the first time she told it in front of his kids and refered to herself as dad's friend unless the kids didn't know they use to date/live together and as they grew closer throughout the tour though it seems Stevie decided to stop pretending and wanted to be honest and not hide their past relationship anymore though I'm not sure why..

I think it's highly, highly unlikely that his children don't know they used to be an item. I've never known any parents to hide the fact that they had other relationships before their marriage from their kids - it'd be pretty pointless and silly if they did. And it seems especially pointless and silly if those people are still a part of their life, and even more pointless and silly if those relationships are public knowledge and heavily discussed, which is the case with Stevie and Lindsey. They probably don't go around talking about it all the time, and Lindsey's children probably don't know a whole bunch of details, but I'd bet my left pinky toe that they're aware.

CADreaming

01-02-2014, 09:39 PM

Why is there a question mark in the thread title? :wavey:

michelej1

01-02-2014, 09:50 PM

I think it's highly, highly unlikely that his children don't know they used to be an item. I've never known any parents to hide the fact that they had other relationships before their marriage from their kids - it'd be pretty pointless and silly if they did. And it seems especially pointless and silly if those people are still a part of their life, and even more pointless and silly if those relationships are public knowledge and heavily discussed, which is the case with Stevie and Lindsey. They probably don't go around talking about it all the time, and Lindsey's children probably don't know a whole bunch of details, but I'd bet my left pinky toe that they're aware.

Plus, Lindsey's older kids have seen American Idol and Glee and probably saw the FM comments on those shows and it's his son who got Lindsey on TMZ. Will pointed out the cameras to him. If he knows what TMZ is, he knows about celebrity dirt.

They aren't dependent on their parents for their information any longer. Even when Will was much smaller, Lindsey said that the kid asked him about Tusk and then when he passed his bedroom he heard his son listening to Tusk music on his ipod. He was free to download music of his own choosing back when he was just 10 years old. So, I think they probably know anything about their dad's past that they're interested in. It's probably boring to them.

I don't think there's much romantic about SnL interaction these days. I think it had a much less platonic vibe around The Dance than it does now. And I think the SYW tour was tense. But now, it seems like a family show to me. In fact, while I could see Kristen getting upset if Lindsey was making eyes at someone like Vanessa Carlton, when it comes to anyone in FM, if any of the four still want to sleep with him after 30 or 40 years of hearing how they tried to make him use a pick, more power to them.

Michele

bombaysaffires

01-02-2014, 09:57 PM

I think it's highly, highly unlikely that his children don't know they used to be an item. I've never known any parents to hide the fact that they had other relationships before their marriage from their kids - it'd be pretty pointless and silly if they did. And it seems especially pointless and silly if those people are still a part of their life, and even more pointless and silly if those relationships are public knowledge and heavily discussed, which is the case with Stevie and Lindsey. They probably don't go around talking about it all the time, and Lindsey's children probably don't know a whole bunch of details, but I'd bet my left pinky toe that they're aware.

All they have to do is take one look at the cover of BuckinghamNicks.

michelej1

01-02-2014, 09:58 PM

All they have to do is take one look at the cover of BuckinghamNicks.

Friends don't pose like that??

Michele

CADreaming

01-02-2014, 10:13 PM

Friends don't pose like that??

Michele

Wait. They're friends now? I'm confused. :lol:

bombaysaffires

01-02-2014, 10:26 PM

"daddy, why don't you and aunt stevie have any clothes on in this picture?"

michelej1

01-02-2014, 10:42 PM

Wait. They're friends now? I'm confused. :lol:

Well, there was a time when they were ....going out.

Michele

CADreaming

01-02-2014, 11:27 PM

Well, there was a time when they were ....going out.

Michele

I forgot all about that.

lovethemac1

01-03-2014, 12:23 AM

Was an incredibly powerful moment on stage. Lindsey DID give a nod to the wife and kids at the show though so I think it's just a stage thing!

He did? I don't remember hearing anything. Maybe I misssed it.....when was it and what did he say?

All I can say is that hearing their voices and the catches in the words during SG, as his wife, I would have been very upset. From the back of the concert hall, I was crying when they sang that song. So for someone who would know him much better like she would, and would be closer to the stage, how could you not find that upsetting? My husband rolled his eyes and said "wow, I hope his wife never sees that."

bombaysaffires

01-03-2014, 12:52 AM

I forgot all about that.

They didn't talk much about it; it was kind of on the down-low.:)

CADreaming

01-03-2014, 08:09 AM

They didn't talk much about it; it was kind of on the down-low.:)

:lol::wavey:

fleetwoodmeg

01-03-2014, 09:05 AM

He did? I don't remember hearing anything. Maybe I misssed it.....when was it and what did he say?

All I can say is that hearing their voices and the catches in the words during SG, as his wife, I would have been very upset. From the back of the concert hall, I was crying when they sang that song. So for someone who would know him much better like she would, and would be closer to the stage, how could you not find that upsetting? My husband rolled his eyes and said "wow, I hope his wife never sees that."

I agree! If I were Kristen, and saw all that emotion I would be upset. I mean you can't fake that. But she has to be aware of their feelings toward eachother and just wishes for the end of the tour. In my opinion she knows she has him everyday, but it's obvious Stevie has his heart.

nicole21290

01-03-2014, 10:02 AM

I agree! If I were Kristen, and saw all that emotion I would be upset. I mean you can't fake that. But she has to be aware of their feelings toward eachother and just wishes for the end of the tour. In my opinion she knows she has him everyday, but it's obvious Stevie has his heart.

Yes, end of touring must be a thrilling prospect - it means he can go hide out in his studio, writing and demoing up songs about Stevie like Miss Fantasy and It Takes Time. How reassuring... :lol:

Maybe I've just been holding out too long
And maybe I couldn't admit I was wrong
And maybe I've just been lying to myself
And no one else

Slow down, baby
Cross that line
If you want to save me
It takes time

Maybe I've wasted all this precious time
Trying to prove what is and isn't mine
Wondering to myself if you knew
It was all for you

CADreaming

01-03-2014, 10:21 AM

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lovethemac1

01-03-2014, 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=nicole21290;1115683]Yes, end of touring must be a thrilling prospect - it means he can go hide out in his studio, writing and demoing up songs about Stevie like Miss Fantasy and It Takes Time. How reassuring... :lol:

No kidding, I agree 100%...........
I remember him saying that he wrote it when he took leave of Fleetwood Mac at the start of the TITN tour. He said that in the Soundstage Sessions video, just before he sang it with Stevie. That was in 2005, and that was the first time I thought, "oh, wow, I don't think Kristen should see this."
He referred to the song during the tour as being from 10 years ago. I guess because it was on Say You Will. He was married 13 years ago, and had Will 15 years ago. So it was still an important song to him even after he was married.

bombaysaffires

01-03-2014, 01:24 PM

[QUOTE=nicole21290;1115683]Yes, end of touring must be a thrilling prospect - it means he can go hide out in his studio, writing and demoing up songs about Stevie like Miss Fantasy and It Takes Time. How reassuring... :lol:

No kidding, I agree 100%...........
I remember him saying that he wrote it when he took leave of Fleetwood Mac at the start of the TITN tour. He said that in the Soundstage Sessions video, just before he sang it with Stevie. That was in 2005, and that was the first time I thought, "oh, wow, I don't think Kristen should see this."
He referred to the song during the tour as being from 10 years ago. I guess because it was on Say You Will. He was married 13 years ago, and had Will 15 years ago. So it was still an important song to him even after he was married.

Well I get the sense that being with Kristen, having Will, he grew up a little and saw that this was the path he should be on (with them) and I think that *that* finally allowed him to let go of Stevie and hopes they would ever get back together.. and letting go of that hope seemed to have let him let go of all the anger he still had about her leaving him, and once he let all that go he was able to look back on that whole relationship with a new objectivity and being a writer, you want to write about that stuff. A lot of his material to me seems to have been about recognizing his own behavior in that whole time period, warts and all, and acknowledging it.

elle

01-03-2014, 01:36 PM

Well I get the sense that being with Kristen, having Will, he grew up a little and saw that this was the path he should be on (with them) and I think that *that* finally allowed him to let go of Stevie and hopes they would ever get back together.. and letting go of that hope seemed to have let him let go of all the anger he still had about her leaving him, and once he let all that go he was able to look back on that whole relationship with a new objectivity and being a writer, you want to write about that stuff. A lot of his material to me seems to have been about recognizing his own behavior in that whole time period, warts and all, and acknowledging it.

this goes well with what Christine said about him as a person in that Jan 1st BBC interview. she said he used to be abrasive and it was hard to have a normal conversation with him, outside the musical synergy she had with him. but that once he had a family and settled down, he is now a totally changed and extremely lovely person.

i'm glad she said that, because it seems that most people either think that he was always nice (but nobody could see it :p ), or he was always a dick and is still the same. neither of those descriptions fit with all his angry and aggressive behavior in the past or with the very normal and warm man many fans had the opportunity to meet over the last two years. Christine's description of him fits perfectly with the change in his behavior and character.

michelej1

01-03-2014, 02:23 PM

i'm glad she said that, because it seems that most people either think that he was always nice (but nobody could see it :p ),

Oh, I don't think he was always nice. I think he was sometimes nice even in the early days, but mercurial. I think he's more even-keeled now, but still has his moments.

Michele

Deeshere

01-03-2014, 03:14 PM

I just don't think any of that negates the possibility of also loving someone in a completely non-romantic way on top of all the messy stuff. I've heard many a divorced couple express sentiments to the same effect.

I think it's highly, highly unlikely that his children don't know they used to be an item. I've never known any parents to hide the fact that they had other relationships before their marriage from their kids - it'd be pretty pointless and silly if they did. And it seems especially pointless and silly if those people are still a part of their life, and even more pointless and silly if those relationships are public knowledge and heavily discussed, which is the case with Stevie and Lindsey. They probably don't go around talking about it all the time, and Lindsey's children probably don't know a whole bunch of details, but I'd bet my left pinky toe that they're aware.

It's not that I think Lindsey was/or would hide his past romantic relationship with Stevie from his kids, but they are young and I can't imagine that talking with your kids about your past romance with a current band mate is very comfortable or something you really want to discuss with them when they are only (Stella 9, Lee Lee 13, Will 15). Do you really want to tell any of your kids that young that you lived with (considered yourself married to) a current band mate and then answer all the inevitable questions of what happened from your kids? My bet is the Lindsey would want to delay that discussion for as long as possible, because let's face it, his actions during the first 12 years he was in Fleetwood Mac were not great and I doubt he would really want to discuss all with his kids.

Lindsey also said that none of his kids were really Fleetwood Mac fan's and he wasn't' sure they had even heard a complete album.

I know they go to school and have friends, but I don't think Fleetwood Mac is really big in elementary schools or even junior high/middle school. Maybe they would be well known in high school (Will), but I'm not sure they would know or care enough to find out the history of the band so they could relay the information to Lindsey's kids.

I could see that maybe Lindsey's talked to Will, and Lee Lee about it NOW. Like I said Stevie had to pretty much force him to say the "you have to take my girlfriend too" line of the WY story back in July 2013. So if they didn't know, they do now.

michelej1

01-03-2014, 03:39 PM

I know they go to school and have friends, but I don't think Fleetwood Mac is really big in elementary schools or even junior high/middle school. Maybe they would be well known in high school (Will), but I'm not sure they would know or care enough to find out the history of the band so they could relay the information to Lindsey's kids.

Lindsey said in the past that his kids hear about FM through the parents of their friends and hearing about him from others has given them a sense of history or pride. He mentioned that even before Glee did a Rumours show and Stevie appeared on American Idol and I know that Glee is something LeeLee once liked.

Presumably, the parents wouldn't be telling the kids about the band's history of drug use and other tawdry tales, but they have access to that information if they care to do a search of the band's history at all.

Michele

WildHearted

01-03-2014, 03:40 PM

It's not that I think Lindsey was/or would hide his past romantic relationship with Stevie from his kids, but they are young and I can't imagine that talking with your kids about your past romance with a current band mate is very comfortable or something you really want to discuss with them when they are only (Stella 9, Lee Lee 13, Will 15). Do you really want to tell any of your kids that young that you lived with (considered yourself married to) a current band mate and then answer all the inevitable questions of what happened from your kids? My bet is the Lindsey would want to delay that discussion for as long as possible, because let's face it, his actions during the first 12 years he was in Fleetwood Mac were not great and I doubt he would really want to discuss all with his kids.

Growing up I always heard stories about my mom's past boyfriends and stuff. There was Phillip the body builder that dated for a few years and lived with, creepy Steve from down the street that she went to homecoming with, an Iranian fellow (whose name now escapes me) she dated in college who kept calling her old work asking for like 10 years after they broke up... her bosses son Buzzy who was always in love with her and probably still is to this day.. the list goes on. I never thought any of that was strange because it was always mentioned casually and my mom never tried to hide it. If you don't treat something like a big deal, your kids aren't going to think it's a big deal, either, you know?

It probably WOULD be awkward if one day Lindsey/Kristen/whoever made some production about it and had them all sit down for "the talk" where they revealed he and Stevie used to be a couple - that would be uncomfortable, for sure, because it's making it into this serious ordeal, when I don't think it really is (in the scheme of his children's lives). So I don't imagine anything like that would happen - I think it's more likely that they just grew up knowing that they used to date, and therefore probably don't give a second thought to the matter at all.

Obviously, I don't know any of these people. I could be way off. But like Michele said, his children are pretty grown up now - 9, 13, and 15 aren't exactly little toddlers. 9 year olds have iPhones nowadays. So I just find it hard to imagine that they've been completely in the dark regarding Lindsey/Stevie their entire lives until now.

:shrug:

whitewingdove

01-03-2014, 03:59 PM

I agree. They probably speak of her quite regularly since he does tour with her every few years... Plus how could he explain the chemistry they have on stage because i'm sure they'e seen at least one concert, i can guarantee it! It's a good thing hey know otherwise if I were them i'd be concerned he's cheating. Anyway; without getting into Buckingham Nicks chemistry i'll leave it at that. I don't believe that they have a close relationship at all with her like it is written in fanfics. I mean think about it; you're father's ex girlfriend that is constantly compared to rich famous rockstar. I'd choose my mothers side no matter what. So the odds are maybe the children don't even like Stevie...

Deeshere

01-03-2014, 04:59 PM

Lindsey said in the past that his kids hear about FM through the parents of their friends and hearing about him from others has given them a sense of history or pride. He mentioned that even before Glee did a Rumours show and Stevie appeared on American Idol and I know that Glee is something LeeLee once liked.

Presumably, the parents wouldn't be telling the kids about the band's history of drug use and other tawdry tales, but they have access to that information if they care to do a search of the band's history at all.

Michele

I'm not saying they don't know who Stevie is or that they don't know Dad's been a member of FM for the past 38 years. The obviously know all that. I was saying I don't think they knew that Dad and Stevie lived together (maybe they knew they dated, but that's different than living together and believing your married to someone) and as young as they are (except Will) I doubt Lindsey's told them much about his first 12 years with FM.

I don't think it would have to be a " talk" either where you sit your kids down and explain your whole past history, but depending on the kid when you mention something about your past there are questions (especially from girls. Guy's usually don't care or don't want to talk about it) so it would be reasonable to me that Lindsey would not have said much to his kids about his FM history with Stevie. However, I'm willing to admit that maybe I am completely off base on this one.

I just seemed strange to me that when Stevie did the first WY intro in front of Lindsey's kids she was VERY careful about what she said, she only called herself "the girl" rather than Lindsey's girlfriend and redacted or glossed over some S&L history. Then on the second go around for some reason she was not so careful about her story and Daddy had to do the "you gotta take my girlfriend too" line in front of his kids. The only reason I could see that Stevie would be careful of what she said the first time around, was because Lindsey's kids were there and did not know a lot of S&L history, so she was trying to not tell them any more than Lindsey wanted them to know. However why she was not so careful the second time around I don't know.

fleetwoodmeg

01-03-2014, 05:02 PM

Yes, end of touring must be a thrilling prospect - it means he can go hide out in his studio, writing and demoing up songs about Stevie like Miss Fantasy and It Takes Time. How reassuring... :lol:

Maybe I've just been holding out too long
And maybe I couldn't admit I was wrong
And maybe I've just been lying to myself
And no one else

Slow down, baby
Cross that line
If you want to save me
It takes time

Maybe I've wasted all this precious time
Trying to prove what is and isn't mine
Wondering to myself if you knew
It was all for you

Has she ever voiced her opinion on this? I haven't heard anything about her really except her career and she's married to Lindsey and they have children!:cool:

Megan

fleetwoodmeg

01-03-2014, 05:08 PM

I agree. They probably speak of her quite regularly since he does tour with her every few years... Plus how could he explain the chemistry they have on stage because i'm sure they'e seen at least one concert, i can guarantee it! It's a good thing hey know otherwise if I were them i'd be concerned he's cheating. Anyway; without getting into Buckingham Nicks chemistry i'll leave it at that. I don't believe that they have a close relationship at all with her like it is written in fanfics. I mean think about it; you're father's ex girlfriend that is constantly compared to rich famous rockstar. I'd choose my mothers side no matter what. So the odds are maybe the children don't even like Stevie...

I agree! I'd choose my mom's side too of course! I don't know if I'd approve, I wonder if when the kids got older and didn't like what happened on stage if Lindsey and Stevie would back off a bit? hmm:shrug:

Megan

michelej1

01-03-2014, 05:08 PM

I just seemed strange to me that when Stevie did the first WY intro in front of Lindsey's kids she was VERY careful about what she said, she only called herself "the girl" rather than Lindsey's girlfriend and redacted or glossed over some S&L history.

Yes, I made fun of Stevie's choice of words at the Hollywood Bowl show I attended. It was a marked contrast from what she'd said before.

Regarding the kids, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have a talk with them. I just think they probably know independently because the oldest two have been on the internet awhile. Of course, you might not google your own parents, because you might consider them boring. Hard to say.

Michele

michelej1

01-03-2014, 05:18 PM

Christine's description of him fits perfectly with the change in his behavior and character.

I would also say that I think another part of the problem in Lindsey's past wasn't negative per se. It was anti-social, like someone who might have Asperger's. His focus was so single-minded that you couldn't shoot the breeze with him about anything. You couldn't socialize, because he had no life.

There's a video of him strumming a guitar while Richard and others are having a conversation with him and his interests are very single-minded and isolated. I think he was like that a lot, based on Stevie's complaints about him when they lived together.

The whole band got tired of his intense concentration. I get the impression he was someone who might have been at last night's party with you, but if you thought you were going to talk to him about it the next day you were wrong. The next day he'd be giving you a treatise on making the guitar sound like a violin.

Michele

michelej1

01-03-2014, 05:22 PM

I agree. They probably speak of her quite regularly since he does tour with her every few years... Plus how could he explain the chemistry they have on stage because i'm sure they'e seen at least one concert, i can guarantee it! It's a good thing hey know otherwise if I were them i'd be concerned he's cheating. Anyway; without getting into Buckingham Nicks chemistry i'll leave it at that. I don't believe that they have a close relationship at all with her like it is written in fanfics. I mean think about it; you're father's ex girlfriend that is constantly compared to rich famous rockstar. I'd choose my mothers side no matter what. So the odds are maybe the children don't even like Stevie...

Most kids think their mother is wonderful and beautiful, even if she isn't. People tend to have a conceit about their parents, that's a little blind. I would think it would not even occur to them that their father would be attracted to Stevie over their mom today, no matter what they see on stage.

Michele

elle

01-03-2014, 05:57 PM

I would also say that I think another part of the problem in Lindsey's past wasn't negative per se. It was anti-social, like someone who might have Asperger's. His focus was so single-minded that you couldn't shoot the breeze with him about anything. You couldn't socialize, because he had no life.

yeah i was thinking that exactly, after hearing Christine's description of him in the past - sounded as someone who was at least somewhere on the spectrum.

nicole21290

01-03-2014, 06:33 PM

No kidding, I agree 100%...........
I remember him saying that he wrote it when he took leave of Fleetwood Mac at the start of the TITN tour. He said that in the Soundstage Sessions video, just before he sang it with Stevie. That was in 2005, and that was the first time I thought, "oh, wow, I don't think Kristen should see this."
He referred to the song during the tour as being from 10 years ago. I guess because it was on Say You Will. He was married 13 years ago, and had Will 15 years ago. So it was still an important song to him even after he was married.

Say Goodbye? Yes. Lindsey's taken a page out of Stevie's handbook and is lying instead of just evading, bless. He was previously very clear on when it was written - after 'taking leave of the band' a long time ago. He's just retconned it, saying it was 'written' for SYW recently when that was merely when FM recorded it. I have my thoughts on why he's done this but *shrugs*. Either way, the changing meaning of the song (well, the changing explanation of the song) amuses me A LOT. I mean, closure isn't a new thing though back in 2003 it was the 'beginning' of closure they were getting, lol. From memory, so forgive error.

The very first show of the year Stevie told us she loves singing it with him and Lindsey started up with his talk about how it represents closure and so on, also informing us that it's funny because he and Stevie are probably closer than they've been since the early seventies. Nice to know...

So as the tour progressed we go from lots of CLOSURE CLOSURE CLOSURE to talk to Say Goodbye being about:
- needing illusions in order to dream
- needing to cast away illusions in order to grow
(Well, did she make you cry,
Make you break down,
Shatter your illusions of love?)
- acceptance
- faith
- resolve for the future

As he said in an interview "All those illusions have fallen away, but that doesn't mean that there isn't resolve and hope and belief in the future in a different context."

I do so love a good evolution in explanation... My favourite, however, was this fun one back when it was still about getting closure in Philly.

"This is a song I wrote about Stevie maybe 10 years ago and, uh, it's about closure. As much as the (?) dialogue between the two of us can be *laughs* (?) and I think we're still trying to find it, right? (?) Or maybe we're not. I don't know. Anyway, it's incredible after all this time that there (?) seem to be a few chapters here between these two people. I don't understand. *laughs*

Okay, first of all Lindsey, you write this in 1987 according to other tours... ;) Also, you were writing about getting closure in your r'ship with Stevie back in 1987 but thought it's time was right in 2003 and yet you STILL think you guys are trying to find that closure in 2013. Except NOT. Because 'MAYBE WE'RE NOT. I DON'T KNOW'. UM, WTF? :D So, you don't think you ever found that closure and perhaps you're not even bothering to try and get that closure anymore? EMBRACE THAT LOVE, GUYS. :D

#lovefest2013

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While I'm putting my few cents worth on this thread, have at this. Basically it started months and months ago when I noted some fun lyrical repetitions on Seeds We Sow. We know Lindsey likes to talk about he and Stevie dialoguing in song and he's said many of his songs are about her. So...

Had a dream that you reached for me in the night / Touched me soft and slow
Everything was wrong but everything was right / Oh, the seeds we sow

Fire still burning, in a while she’ll make it rain / These rooms are all falling down, they couldn’t stand the strain
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more

I wake up in the middle of the night / With you in my heart / With you in my heart
I can’t touch you any more / It causes you harm

When you’re waiting for your ocean to rise / All alone at night long after I’ve gone
And your conversations all end in lies / And you wake up singing one of my songs

-

By theme/word. Basically, I've included stuff from Lindsey's last three albums (including covers), from Stevie's TISL and IYD and then FM's SYW and the EP.

HIDING/DOOR/ROOM
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
The currents they caught her / Hiding in my room
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more
THROWN DOWN (say you will)
You can sit outside his door and wait / Well, you can dedicate your pain to him

DREAMS
UNDERGROUND (gift of screws)
I go to my lover we lay on our bed / Did I sell my heart for the dreams in my head?
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
Did you miss me in the evening? / When everyone is bound to dream
SHUT US DOWN (under the skin)
Oh you and I we sure can dream / Of conversations that might have been
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Hearts will break / With choices we must make / So sleep and dream of me
UNDER THE SKIN (under the skin)
Lay your head down no one will see / Cry me a river of new dreams float yourself free
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
You can float downstream let the past be the past / You can wake up from a dream and find your other half
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
I had another dream of you last night / sailing on a sea of blue
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU (in your dreams)
She was so unaffected / By his dream
For his dream of her / Was just not possible

OCEAN/SEA
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
Mirrors in her eyes / She was wet she was soaking
Ashes in the ocean / And her heart was broken
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
When you’re waiting for your ocean to rise / All alone at night long after I’ve gone
TREASON (gift of screws)
Deep down in the ocean deep down in the sea / Saw your face full of grace searching for me
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
I took a trip out of town / A hundred years underground
I had to swim across the sea / When you were my baby
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
You can float downstream let the past be the past / You can wake up from a dream and find your other half
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
I had another dream of you last night / sailing on a sea of blue
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
The sea never changes - not really / It is the constant in my life
I always return here / To the flash of those colors

PLANS
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Holy light, visionary sight / There’s been a change in plans
Going away / No, I cannot stay / I hope you understand
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU (in your dreams)
She was so enchanted by his voice / She was so shaken by his words
His plan for her… / Was just not possible / She had no words…

GOOD/GREAT DAY
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
It was a great day, great day
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
Cast your fate, we’ve all found a way / As they say, it’s another good day

RULES
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
The day was dark and burning / All the time we were learning
The rules concerning / Of the corner we were turning
DESTINY RULES (say we will)
It’s not being together, / It’s just following the rules
No one’s a fool…

CRIME
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
A wish that is walking / Is just a crime scene talking
If it’s a plea that you’re copping / It’s just a door that you’re locking
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
I keep walking on this heart of mine / I could go crazy without even trying / Fleeing the scene of the crime
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Nothing here remains, just a vision of her face / The implications of a crime, it always takes the place

WHITE AND BLUE/CLUES
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
I see clues that you leave behind / White or blue, I know it can’t be mine / I want to look for what I might find
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
I can see past you - to the white sand… / It is blue / It is not about you
It is all true / You know—who I am
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
You’re the queen of the underground / Never leaving a clue
RED ROVER (say you will)
And the lips you were kissing night after night / All were bathed in blue, all bathed in white

LINE CROSSING/TIME
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Wouldn’t make any difference / We crossed the line
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
Slow down, baby / Cross that line

WRONG/RIGHT
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
Freedom is someone to know / There is no right or wrong anymore
SEEDS WE SOW (seeds we sow)
Touched me soft and slow / Everything was wrong but everything was right

UNDERGROUND
UNDERGROUND (gift of screws)
I think I might wander underground
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
I took a trip out of town / A hundred years underground
I had to swim across the sea / When you were my baby
LOVE RUNS DEEPER (gift of screws)
Black angel can’t be alone / Love runs deeper from the underground
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
You’re the queen of the underground / Never leaving a clue

NOT TOO LATE
THE RIGHT PLACE TO FADE (gift of screws)
Waiting for the light that might light our way / Waiting for the right place to fade / I swear I swear I swear it’s not too late
NOT TOO LATE (seeds we sow)
What am I doing anyway / Telling myself it’s not too late

PARALLEL
LOVE RUNS DEEPER (gift of screws)
How you mystified / Just a blinding flash / We were parallel lines
DESTINY RULES (say you will)
Maybe we were together in another life / Maybe we are together in a parallel universe

SHOW YOU HOW
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
Look at us now / The years fall down / Show me how
SHOW YOU HOW (seeds we sow)
Come ‘round and get me, I’ll show you, show you, show you how

DROWN
DOWN ON RODEO (under the skin)
Faces of glass all hung in the past / They only come here to drown
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
It would do no good / To drown in the sea
Where no one remembers their name / And nothing but nothing is free

LIES
SAY GOODBYE (say you will)
It’s so hard to find your way / When the lies come around
STEAL YOUR HEART AWAY (say you will)
And the lie was creeping / Down, down, down / While we were sleeping

DANCE/CHANCES/TIME/CHANGING MINDS
DOWN ON RODEO (under the skin)
We never took quite enough chances / We never had quite enough time
I did about a thousand dances / But nothing would change your mind
SAY YOU WILL (say you will)
Say you will, say you will give me one more chance / At least give me time to change your mind
That always seems to heal the wounds, if I can / Get you to dance
NOT TOO LATE (seeds we sow)
And there’s a need for songs that are sung / For chances not taken for deeds not yet done

FAITH
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
THROWN DOWN (say you will)
You’ve shaken your faith in me, no / You’ve shaken my faith in everything else
A decision no one makes, and now you’re going home / Faith is a hard thing to hold on to
Something inside you says I don’t have to

MAGIC
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
You were an angel / And I was a starving child / And we were…magic…

PASSION
UNDER THE SKIN (under the skin)
I know it’s hard being so hard to find / Your passion swallows you whole deaf dumb and blind
CHEAPER THAN FREE (in your dreams)
Better than fashion? High passion.
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
It’s there every day / It’s passion never fades / You know what I mean

SLOW DOWN
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
She said slow down baby, slow down now
MOONLIGHT (A VAMPIRE’S DREAM) (in your dreams)
He slows down / He’s so desperate to stop her / Meet her in the middle
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
Slow down, baby / Cross that line

SAVE/SURVIVE
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
If you want to save me / It takes time
FALL FROM GRACE (trouble in shangri-la)
Maybe the reason I say these things / Is to bring you back alive
Maybe I fought this long and this hard / Just to make sure you survive

LINGER
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
And the shadow singer will stand and linger in places no one ever goes
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
Would you still love to linger up against the wall?

MEMORY
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
It may be you don’t remember me / but I remember you
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
Forget me not, he says / I’m so afraid

FEAR
THE RIGHT PLACE TO FADE (gift of screws)
Come along lay down and talk to me / Tell me all your fear will allow
It doesn’t matter who we thought we were / We ain’t got time for that now
LOVE CHANGES (trouble in shangri-la)
When he was loving I was in tears / He knows my fears
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
He says, there’s no fear in your eyes / Tell me another lie…

STRAIN
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Fire still burning, in a while she’ll make it rain
These rooms are all falling down, they couldn’t stand the strain
EVERY DAY (trouble in shangri-la)
Don’t give me visions to explain / There are no doubts I feel the strain

Deeshere

01-03-2014, 08:15 PM

Say Goodbye? Yes. Lindsey's taken a page out of Stevie's handbook and is lying instead of just evading, bless. He was previously very clear on when it was written - after 'taking leave of the band' a long time ago. He's just retconned it, saying it was 'written' for SYW recently when that was merely when FM recorded it. I have my thoughts on why he's done this but *shrugs*. Either way, the changing meaning of the song (well, the changing explanation of the song) amuses me A LOT. I mean, closure isn't a new thing though back in 2003 it was the 'beginning' of closure they were getting, lol. From memory, so forgive error.

The very first show of the year Stevie told us she loves singing it with him and Lindsey started up with his talk about how it represents closure and so on, also informing us that it's funny because he and Stevie are probably closer than they've been since the early seventies. Nice to know...

So as the tour progressed we go from lots of CLOSURE CLOSURE CLOSURE to talk to Say Goodbye being about:
- needing illusions in order to dream
- needing to cast away illusions in order to grow
(Well, did she make you cry,
Make you break down,
Shatter your illusions of love?)
- acceptance
- faith
- resolve for the future

As he said in an interview "All those illusions have fallen away, but that doesn't mean that there isn't resolve and hope and belief in the future in a different context."

I do so love a good evolution in explanation... My favourite, however, was this fun one back when it was still about getting closure in Philly.

"This is a song I wrote about Stevie maybe 10 years ago and, uh, it's about closure. As much as the (?) dialogue between the two of us can be *laughs* (?) and I think we're still trying to find it, right? (?) Or maybe we're not. I don't know. Anyway, it's incredible after all this time that there (?) seem to be a few chapters here between these two people. I don't understand. *laughs*

Okay, first of all Lindsey, you write this in 1987 according to other tours... ;) Also, you were writing about getting closure in your r'ship with Stevie back in 1987 but thought it's time was right in 2003 and yet you STILL think you guys are trying to find that closure in 2013. Except NOT. Because 'MAYBE WE'RE NOT. I DON'T KNOW'. UM, WTF? :D So, you don't think you ever found that closure and perhaps you're not even bothering to try and get that closure anymore? EMBRACE THAT LOVE, GUYS. :D

#lovefest2013

-

While I'm putting my few cents worth on this thread, have at this. Basically it started months and months ago when I noted some fun lyrical repetitions on Seeds We Sow. We know Lindsey likes to talk about he and Stevie dialoguing in song and he's said many of his songs are about her. So...

Had a dream that you reached for me in the night / Touched me soft and slow
Everything was wrong but everything was right / Oh, the seeds we sow

Fire still burning, in a while she’ll make it rain / These rooms are all falling down, they couldn’t stand the strain
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more

I wake up in the middle of the night / With you in my heart / With you in my heart
I can’t touch you any more / It causes you harm

When you’re waiting for your ocean to rise / All alone at night long after I’ve gone
And your conversations all end in lies / And you wake up singing one of my songs

-

By theme/word. Basically, I've included stuff from Lindsey's last three albums (including covers), from Stevie's TISL and IYD and then FM's SYW and the EP.

HIDING/DOOR/ROOM
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
The currents they caught her / Hiding in my room
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more
THROWN DOWN (say you will)
You can sit outside his door and wait / Well, you can dedicate your pain to him

DREAMS
UNDERGROUND (gift of screws)
I go to my lover we lay on our bed / Did I sell my heart for the dreams in my head?
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
Did you miss me in the evening? / When everyone is bound to dream
SHUT US DOWN (under the skin)
Oh you and I we sure can dream / Of conversations that might have been
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Hearts will break / With choices we must make / So sleep and dream of me
UNDER THE SKIN (under the skin)
Lay your head down no one will see / Cry me a river of new dreams float yourself free
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
You can float downstream let the past be the past / You can wake up from a dream and find your other half
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
I had another dream of you last night / sailing on a sea of blue
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU (in your dreams)
She was so unaffected / By his dream
For his dream of her / Was just not possible

OCEAN/SEA
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
Mirrors in her eyes / She was wet she was soaking
Ashes in the ocean / And her heart was broken
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
When you’re waiting for your ocean to rise / All alone at night long after I’ve gone
TREASON (gift of screws)
Deep down in the ocean deep down in the sea / Saw your face full of grace searching for me
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
I took a trip out of town / A hundred years underground
I had to swim across the sea / When you were my baby
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
You can float downstream let the past be the past / You can wake up from a dream and find your other half
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
I had another dream of you last night / sailing on a sea of blue
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
The sea never changes - not really / It is the constant in my life
I always return here / To the flash of those colors

PLANS
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Holy light, visionary sight / There’s been a change in plans
Going away / No, I cannot stay / I hope you understand
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU (in your dreams)
She was so enchanted by his voice / She was so shaken by his words
His plan for her… / Was just not possible / She had no words…

GOOD/GREAT DAY
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
It was a great day, great day
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
Cast your fate, we’ve all found a way / As they say, it’s another good day

RULES
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
The day was dark and burning / All the time we were learning
The rules concerning / Of the corner we were turning
DESTINY RULES (say we will)
It’s not being together, / It’s just following the rules
No one’s a fool…

CRIME
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
A wish that is walking / Is just a crime scene talking
If it’s a plea that you’re copping / It’s just a door that you’re locking
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
I keep walking on this heart of mine / I could go crazy without even trying / Fleeing the scene of the crime
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Nothing here remains, just a vision of her face / The implications of a crime, it always takes the place

WHITE AND BLUE/CLUES
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
I see clues that you leave behind / White or blue, I know it can’t be mine / I want to look for what I might find
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
I can see past you - to the white sand… / It is blue / It is not about you
It is all true / You know—who I am
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
You’re the queen of the underground / Never leaving a clue
RED ROVER (say you will)
And the lips you were kissing night after night / All were bathed in blue, all bathed in white

LINE CROSSING/TIME
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Wouldn’t make any difference / We crossed the line
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
Slow down, baby / Cross that line

WRONG/RIGHT
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
Freedom is someone to know / There is no right or wrong anymore
SEEDS WE SOW (seeds we sow)
Touched me soft and slow / Everything was wrong but everything was right

UNDERGROUND
UNDERGROUND (gift of screws)
I think I might wander underground
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
I took a trip out of town / A hundred years underground
I had to swim across the sea / When you were my baby
LOVE RUNS DEEPER (gift of screws)
Black angel can’t be alone / Love runs deeper from the underground
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
You’re the queen of the underground / Never leaving a clue

NOT TOO LATE
THE RIGHT PLACE TO FADE (gift of screws)
Waiting for the light that might light our way / Waiting for the right place to fade / I swear I swear I swear it’s not too late
NOT TOO LATE (seeds we sow)
What am I doing anyway / Telling myself it’s not too late

PARALLEL
LOVE RUNS DEEPER (gift of screws)
How you mystified / Just a blinding flash / We were parallel lines
DESTINY RULES (say you will)
Maybe we were together in another life / Maybe we are together in a parallel universe

SHOW YOU HOW
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
Look at us now / The years fall down / Show me how
SHOW YOU HOW (seeds we sow)
Come ‘round and get me, I’ll show you, show you, show you how

DROWN
DOWN ON RODEO (under the skin)
Faces of glass all hung in the past / They only come here to drown
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
It would do no good / To drown in the sea
Where no one remembers their name / And nothing but nothing is free

LIES
SAY GOODBYE (say you will)
It’s so hard to find your way / When the lies come around
STEAL YOUR HEART AWAY (say you will)
And the lie was creeping / Down, down, down / While we were sleeping

DANCE/CHANCES/TIME/CHANGING MINDS
DOWN ON RODEO (under the skin)
We never took quite enough chances / We never had quite enough time
I did about a thousand dances / But nothing would change your mind
SAY YOU WILL (say you will)
Say you will, say you will give me one more chance / At least give me time to change your mind
That always seems to heal the wounds, if I can / Get you to dance
NOT TOO LATE (seeds we sow)
And there’s a need for songs that are sung / For chances not taken for deeds not yet done

FAITH
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
THROWN DOWN (say you will)
You’ve shaken your faith in me, no / You’ve shaken my faith in everything else
A decision no one makes, and now you’re going home / Faith is a hard thing to hold on to
Something inside you says I don’t have to

MAGIC
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
You were an angel / And I was a starving child / And we were…magic…

PASSION
UNDER THE SKIN (under the skin)
I know it’s hard being so hard to find / Your passion swallows you whole deaf dumb and blind
CHEAPER THAN FREE (in your dreams)
Better than fashion? High passion.
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
It’s there every day / It’s passion never fades / You know what I mean

SLOW DOWN
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
She said slow down baby, slow down now
MOONLIGHT (A VAMPIRE’S DREAM) (in your dreams)
He slows down / He’s so desperate to stop her / Meet her in the middle
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
Slow down, baby / Cross that line

SAVE/SURVIVE
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
If you want to save me / It takes time
FALL FROM GRACE (trouble in shangri-la)
Maybe the reason I say these things / Is to bring you back alive
Maybe I fought this long and this hard / Just to make sure you survive

LINGER
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
And the shadow singer will stand and linger in places no one ever goes
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
Would you still love to linger up against the wall?

MEMORY
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
It may be you don’t remember me / but I remember you
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
Forget me not, he says / I’m so afraid

FEAR
THE RIGHT PLACE TO FADE (gift of screws)
Come along lay down and talk to me / Tell me all your fear will allow
It doesn’t matter who we thought we were / We ain’t got time for that now
LOVE CHANGES (trouble in shangri-la)
When he was loving I was in tears / He knows my fears
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
He says, there’s no fear in your eyes / Tell me another lie…

STRAIN
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Fire still burning, in a while she’ll make it rain
These rooms are all falling down, they couldn’t stand the strain
EVERY DAY (trouble in shangri-la)
Don’t give me visions to explain / There are no doubts I feel the strain

BRAVO Nichole :blob1: you definitely did your research.

Kena

01-03-2014, 09:52 PM

I remember reading an interview with Kristen where she talks about meeting Lindsey for the first time & she said she knew who he was... And that he was in Fleetwood Mac, etc etc. Even if she didn't know all his history with Stevie up front I'm sure he had some explaining to do... So Kristen knew what she was getting into. And obviously the Stevie thing did not come between them... After all, Kristen & Lindsey have been together for how many years? if Stevie was going to come between them, seems like it woulda happened by now.
During the past three tours there have been questionable Stevie & Lindsey shipper stage moments- with this tour being the one with the most love & affection shared on stage...but Lindsey still goes home to Kristen & the kids & he's probably pretty happy with that. Also it doesn't seem like Stevie & Lindsey keep in close contact in between tours... So Lindsey is back to his real life with the wife & kids for years between tours. Kristen could put her foot down if she wasn't happy with Lindsey's relationship with Stevie...resulting in either him quitting Fleetwood Mac or him quitting her. Once again, neither of those things has happened...

Now on the Stevie end of things- she has mentioned how much she adores Lindsey's children & I'd bet money that she shows Kristen a great deal of kindness & doesn't try to intimidate her... Stevie just doesn't seem like the type (now at least- when she was younger yeah probably). She may have a little streak of that in her every now & then so I have wondered if sometimes she says things about Lindsey just because she can... Because she is Stevie Nicks! And darn it, she coulda had Lindsey if she wanted him- but she broke up with him...If she had ever really really really wanted him back, she probably could of had him. It might have taken a little more effort after he got with Kristen but Stevie could have made it happen.

As far as Lindsey's kids...well, if I found out my dad used to date Stevie Nicks (like a million years ago) I would think it was the coolest thing ever! But at the ages Lindsey's kids are now- they probably wouldn't think much about it. The only person their dad is with now is their mom. Thats what they know.

Of course this is all just my opinion on the matter.. For what its worth...

michelej1

01-03-2014, 11:00 PM

When I heard about Phil Everly today, I thought of Stevie and Lindsey.

Michele

lovethemac1

01-04-2014, 12:42 AM

Say Goodbye? Yes. Lindsey's taken a page out of Stevie's handbook and is lying instead of just evading, bless. He was previously very clear on when it was written - after 'taking leave of the band' a long time ago. He's just retconned it, saying it was 'written' for SYW recently when that was merely when FM recorded it. I have my thoughts on why he's done this but *shrugs*. Either way, the changing meaning of the song (well, the changing explanation of the song) amuses me A LOT. I mean, closure isn't a new thing though back in 2003 it was the 'beginning' of closure they were getting, lol. From memory, so forgive error.

The very first show of the year Stevie told us she loves singing it with him and Lindsey started up with his talk about how it represents closure and so on, also informing us that it's funny because he and Stevie are probably closer than they've been since the early seventies. Nice to know...

So as the tour progressed we go from lots of CLOSURE CLOSURE CLOSURE to talk to Say Goodbye being about:
- needing illusions in order to dream
- needing to cast away illusions in order to grow
(Well, did she make you cry,
Make you break down,
Shatter your illusions of love?)
- acceptance
- faith
- resolve for the future

As he said in an interview "All those illusions have fallen away, but that doesn't mean that there isn't resolve and hope and belief in the future in a different context."

I do so love a good evolution in explanation... My favourite, however, was this fun one back when it was still about getting closure in Philly.

"This is a song I wrote about Stevie maybe 10 years ago and, uh, it's about closure. As much as the (?) dialogue between the two of us can be *laughs* (?) and I think we're still trying to find it, right? (?) Or maybe we're not. I don't know. Anyway, it's incredible after all this time that there (?) seem to be a few chapters here between these two people. I don't understand. *laughs*

Okay, first of all Lindsey, you write this in 1987 according to other tours... ;) Also, you were writing about getting closure in your r'ship with Stevie back in 1987 but thought it's time was right in 2003 and yet you STILL think you guys are trying to find that closure in 2013. Except NOT. Because 'MAYBE WE'RE NOT. I DON'T KNOW'. UM, WTF? :D So, you don't think you ever found that closure and perhaps you're not even bothering to try and get that closure anymore? EMBRACE THAT LOVE, GUYS. :D

#lovefest2013

-

While I'm putting my few cents worth on this thread, have at this. Basically it started months and months ago when I noted some fun lyrical repetitions on Seeds We Sow. We know Lindsey likes to talk about he and Stevie dialoguing in song and he's said many of his songs are about her. So...

Had a dream that you reached for me in the night / Touched me soft and slow
Everything was wrong but everything was right / Oh, the seeds we sow

Fire still burning, in a while she’ll make it rain / These rooms are all falling down, they couldn’t stand the strain
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more

I wake up in the middle of the night / With you in my heart / With you in my heart
I can’t touch you any more / It causes you harm

When you’re waiting for your ocean to rise / All alone at night long after I’ve gone
And your conversations all end in lies / And you wake up singing one of my songs

-

By theme/word. Basically, I've included stuff from Lindsey's last three albums (including covers), from Stevie's TISL and IYD and then FM's SYW and the EP.

HIDING/DOOR/ROOM
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
The currents they caught her / Hiding in my room
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more
THROWN DOWN (say you will)
You can sit outside his door and wait / Well, you can dedicate your pain to him

DREAMS
UNDERGROUND (gift of screws)
I go to my lover we lay on our bed / Did I sell my heart for the dreams in my head?
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
Did you miss me in the evening? / When everyone is bound to dream
SHUT US DOWN (under the skin)
Oh you and I we sure can dream / Of conversations that might have been
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Hearts will break / With choices we must make / So sleep and dream of me
UNDER THE SKIN (under the skin)
Lay your head down no one will see / Cry me a river of new dreams float yourself free
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
You can float downstream let the past be the past / You can wake up from a dream and find your other half
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
I had another dream of you last night / sailing on a sea of blue
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU (in your dreams)
She was so unaffected / By his dream
For his dream of her / Was just not possible

OCEAN/SEA
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
Mirrors in her eyes / She was wet she was soaking
Ashes in the ocean / And her heart was broken
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
When you’re waiting for your ocean to rise / All alone at night long after I’ve gone
TREASON (gift of screws)
Deep down in the ocean deep down in the sea / Saw your face full of grace searching for me
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
I took a trip out of town / A hundred years underground
I had to swim across the sea / When you were my baby
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
You can float downstream let the past be the past / You can wake up from a dream and find your other half
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
I had another dream of you last night / sailing on a sea of blue
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
The sea never changes - not really / It is the constant in my life
I always return here / To the flash of those colors

PLANS
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Holy light, visionary sight / There’s been a change in plans
Going away / No, I cannot stay / I hope you understand
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU (in your dreams)
She was so enchanted by his voice / She was so shaken by his words
His plan for her… / Was just not possible / She had no words…

GOOD/GREAT DAY
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
It was a great day, great day
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
Cast your fate, we’ve all found a way / As they say, it’s another good day

RULES
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
The day was dark and burning / All the time we were learning
The rules concerning / Of the corner we were turning
DESTINY RULES (say we will)
It’s not being together, / It’s just following the rules
No one’s a fool…

CRIME
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
A wish that is walking / Is just a crime scene talking
If it’s a plea that you’re copping / It’s just a door that you’re locking
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
I keep walking on this heart of mine / I could go crazy without even trying / Fleeing the scene of the crime
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Nothing here remains, just a vision of her face / The implications of a crime, it always takes the place

WHITE AND BLUE/CLUES
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
I see clues that you leave behind / White or blue, I know it can’t be mine / I want to look for what I might find
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
I can see past you - to the white sand… / It is blue / It is not about you
It is all true / You know—who I am
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
You’re the queen of the underground / Never leaving a clue
RED ROVER (say you will)
And the lips you were kissing night after night / All were bathed in blue, all bathed in white

LINE CROSSING/TIME
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Wouldn’t make any difference / We crossed the line
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
Slow down, baby / Cross that line

WRONG/RIGHT
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
Freedom is someone to know / There is no right or wrong anymore
SEEDS WE SOW (seeds we sow)
Touched me soft and slow / Everything was wrong but everything was right

UNDERGROUND
UNDERGROUND (gift of screws)
I think I might wander underground
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
I took a trip out of town / A hundred years underground
I had to swim across the sea / When you were my baby
LOVE RUNS DEEPER (gift of screws)
Black angel can’t be alone / Love runs deeper from the underground
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
You’re the queen of the underground / Never leaving a clue

NOT TOO LATE
THE RIGHT PLACE TO FADE (gift of screws)
Waiting for the light that might light our way / Waiting for the right place to fade / I swear I swear I swear it’s not too late
NOT TOO LATE (seeds we sow)
What am I doing anyway / Telling myself it’s not too late

PARALLEL
LOVE RUNS DEEPER (gift of screws)
How you mystified / Just a blinding flash / We were parallel lines
DESTINY RULES (say you will)
Maybe we were together in another life / Maybe we are together in a parallel universe

SHOW YOU HOW
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
Look at us now / The years fall down / Show me how
SHOW YOU HOW (seeds we sow)
Come ‘round and get me, I’ll show you, show you, show you how

DROWN
DOWN ON RODEO (under the skin)
Faces of glass all hung in the past / They only come here to drown
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
It would do no good / To drown in the sea
Where no one remembers their name / And nothing but nothing is free

LIES
SAY GOODBYE (say you will)
It’s so hard to find your way / When the lies come around
STEAL YOUR HEART AWAY (say you will)
And the lie was creeping / Down, down, down / While we were sleeping

DANCE/CHANCES/TIME/CHANGING MINDS
DOWN ON RODEO (under the skin)
We never took quite enough chances / We never had quite enough time
I did about a thousand dances / But nothing would change your mind
SAY YOU WILL (say you will)
Say you will, say you will give me one more chance / At least give me time to change your mind
That always seems to heal the wounds, if I can / Get you to dance
NOT TOO LATE (seeds we sow)
And there’s a need for songs that are sung / For chances not taken for deeds not yet done

FAITH
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
THROWN DOWN (say you will)
You’ve shaken your faith in me, no / You’ve shaken my faith in everything else
A decision no one makes, and now you’re going home / Faith is a hard thing to hold on to
Something inside you says I don’t have to

MAGIC
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
You were an angel / And I was a starving child / And we were…magic…

PASSION
UNDER THE SKIN (under the skin)
I know it’s hard being so hard to find / Your passion swallows you whole deaf dumb and blind
CHEAPER THAN FREE (in your dreams)
Better than fashion? High passion.
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
It’s there every day / It’s passion never fades / You know what I mean

SLOW DOWN
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
She said slow down baby, slow down now
MOONLIGHT (A VAMPIRE’S DREAM) (in your dreams)
He slows down / He’s so desperate to stop her / Meet her in the middle
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
Slow down, baby / Cross that line

SAVE/SURVIVE
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
If you want to save me / It takes time
FALL FROM GRACE (trouble in shangri-la)
Maybe the reason I say these things / Is to bring you back alive
Maybe I fought this long and this hard / Just to make sure you survive

LINGER
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
And the shadow singer will stand and linger in places no one ever goes
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
Would you still love to linger up against the wall?

MEMORY
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
It may be you don’t remember me / but I remember you
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
Forget me not, he says / I’m so afraid

FEAR
THE RIGHT PLACE TO FADE (gift of screws)
Come along lay down and talk to me / Tell me all your fear will allow
It doesn’t matter who we thought we were / We ain’t got time for that now
LOVE CHANGES (trouble in shangri-la)
When he was loving I was in tears / He knows my fears
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
He says, there’s no fear in your eyes / Tell me another lie…

STRAIN
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Fire still burning, in a while she’ll make it rain
These rooms are all falling down, they couldn’t stand the strain
EVERY DAY (trouble in shangri-la)
Don’t give me visions to explain / There are no doubts I feel the strain

Wow, thank you for that. It is very impressive research. And certainly very interesting. I loved reading all of it.
It really is a very interesting conundrum??????? Would that be the right word to describe this situation?:shrug:

Lindsfan

01-04-2014, 01:09 AM

When I heard about Phil Everly today, I thought of Stevie and Lindsey.

Michele

Me too :( Sorry to hear of his passing.

fleetwoodmeg

01-04-2014, 11:13 AM

Say Goodbye? Yes. Lindsey's taken a page out of Stevie's handbook and is lying instead of just evading, bless. He was previously very clear on when it was written - after 'taking leave of the band' a long time ago. He's just retconned it, saying it was 'written' for SYW recently when that was merely when FM recorded it. I have my thoughts on why he's done this but *shrugs*. Either way, the changing meaning of the song (well, the changing explanation of the song) amuses me A LOT. I mean, closure isn't a new thing though back in 2003 it was the 'beginning' of closure they were getting, lol. From memory, so forgive error.

The very first show of the year Stevie told us she loves singing it with him and Lindsey started up with his talk about how it represents closure and so on, also informing us that it's funny because he and Stevie are probably closer than they've been since the early seventies. Nice to know...

So as the tour progressed we go from lots of CLOSURE CLOSURE CLOSURE to talk to Say Goodbye being about:
- needing illusions in order to dream
- needing to cast away illusions in order to grow
(Well, did she make you cry,
Make you break down,
Shatter your illusions of love?)
- acceptance
- faith
- resolve for the future

As he said in an interview "All those illusions have fallen away, but that doesn't mean that there isn't resolve and hope and belief in the future in a different context."

I do so love a good evolution in explanation... My favourite, however, was this fun one back when it was still about getting closure in Philly.

"This is a song I wrote about Stevie maybe 10 years ago and, uh, it's about closure. As much as the (?) dialogue between the two of us can be *laughs* (?) and I think we're still trying to find it, right? (?) Or maybe we're not. I don't know. Anyway, it's incredible after all this time that there (?) seem to be a few chapters here between these two people. I don't understand. *laughs*

Okay, first of all Lindsey, you write this in 1987 according to other tours... ;) Also, you were writing about getting closure in your r'ship with Stevie back in 1987 but thought it's time was right in 2003 and yet you STILL think you guys are trying to find that closure in 2013. Except NOT. Because 'MAYBE WE'RE NOT. I DON'T KNOW'. UM, WTF? :D So, you don't think you ever found that closure and perhaps you're not even bothering to try and get that closure anymore? EMBRACE THAT LOVE, GUYS. :D

#lovefest2013

-

While I'm putting my few cents worth on this thread, have at this. Basically it started months and months ago when I noted some fun lyrical repetitions on Seeds We Sow. We know Lindsey likes to talk about he and Stevie dialoguing in song and he's said many of his songs are about her. So...

Had a dream that you reached for me in the night / Touched me soft and slow
Everything was wrong but everything was right / Oh, the seeds we sow

Fire still burning, in a while she’ll make it rain / These rooms are all falling down, they couldn’t stand the strain
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more

I wake up in the middle of the night / With you in my heart / With you in my heart
I can’t touch you any more / It causes you harm

When you’re waiting for your ocean to rise / All alone at night long after I’ve gone
And your conversations all end in lies / And you wake up singing one of my songs

-

By theme/word. Basically, I've included stuff from Lindsey's last three albums (including covers), from Stevie's TISL and IYD and then FM's SYW and the EP.

HIDING/DOOR/ROOM
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
The currents they caught her / Hiding in my room
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more
THROWN DOWN (say you will)
You can sit outside his door and wait / Well, you can dedicate your pain to him

DREAMS
UNDERGROUND (gift of screws)
I go to my lover we lay on our bed / Did I sell my heart for the dreams in my head?
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
And the same old dream, she was hiding outside my door / She used to come from time to time but not any more
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
Did you miss me in the evening? / When everyone is bound to dream
SHUT US DOWN (under the skin)
Oh you and I we sure can dream / Of conversations that might have been
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Hearts will break / With choices we must make / So sleep and dream of me
UNDER THE SKIN (under the skin)
Lay your head down no one will see / Cry me a river of new dreams float yourself free
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
You can float downstream let the past be the past / You can wake up from a dream and find your other half
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
I had another dream of you last night / sailing on a sea of blue
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU (in your dreams)
She was so unaffected / By his dream
For his dream of her / Was just not possible

OCEAN/SEA
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
Mirrors in her eyes / She was wet she was soaking
Ashes in the ocean / And her heart was broken
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
When you’re waiting for your ocean to rise / All alone at night long after I’ve gone
TREASON (gift of screws)
Deep down in the ocean deep down in the sea / Saw your face full of grace searching for me
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
I took a trip out of town / A hundred years underground
I had to swim across the sea / When you were my baby
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
You can float downstream let the past be the past / You can wake up from a dream and find your other half
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
I had another dream of you last night / sailing on a sea of blue
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
The sea never changes - not really / It is the constant in my life
I always return here / To the flash of those colors

PLANS
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Holy light, visionary sight / There’s been a change in plans
Going away / No, I cannot stay / I hope you understand
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU (in your dreams)
She was so enchanted by his voice / She was so shaken by his words
His plan for her… / Was just not possible / She had no words…

GOOD/GREAT DAY
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
It was a great day, great day
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
Cast your fate, we’ve all found a way / As they say, it’s another good day

RULES
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
The day was dark and burning / All the time we were learning
The rules concerning / Of the corner we were turning
DESTINY RULES (say we will)
It’s not being together, / It’s just following the rules
No one’s a fool…

CRIME
GREAT DAY (gift of screws)
A wish that is walking / Is just a crime scene talking
If it’s a plea that you’re copping / It’s just a door that you’re locking
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
I keep walking on this heart of mine / I could go crazy without even trying / Fleeing the scene of the crime
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Nothing here remains, just a vision of her face / The implications of a crime, it always takes the place

WHITE AND BLUE/CLUES
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
I see clues that you leave behind / White or blue, I know it can’t be mine / I want to look for what I might find
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
I can see past you - to the white sand… / It is blue / It is not about you
It is all true / You know—who I am
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
You’re the queen of the underground / Never leaving a clue
RED ROVER (say you will)
And the lips you were kissing night after night / All were bathed in blue, all bathed in white

LINE CROSSING/TIME
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Wouldn’t make any difference / We crossed the line
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
Slow down, baby / Cross that line

WRONG/RIGHT
ROCK AWAY BLIND (seeds we sow)
Freedom is someone to know / There is no right or wrong anymore
SEEDS WE SOW (seeds we sow)
Touched me soft and slow / Everything was wrong but everything was right

UNDERGROUND
UNDERGROUND (gift of screws)
I think I might wander underground
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
I took a trip out of town / A hundred years underground
I had to swim across the sea / When you were my baby
LOVE RUNS DEEPER (gift of screws)
Black angel can’t be alone / Love runs deeper from the underground
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
You’re the queen of the underground / Never leaving a clue

NOT TOO LATE
THE RIGHT PLACE TO FADE (gift of screws)
Waiting for the light that might light our way / Waiting for the right place to fade / I swear I swear I swear it’s not too late
NOT TOO LATE (seeds we sow)
What am I doing anyway / Telling myself it’s not too late

PARALLEL
LOVE RUNS DEEPER (gift of screws)
How you mystified / Just a blinding flash / We were parallel lines
DESTINY RULES (say you will)
Maybe we were together in another life / Maybe we are together in a parallel universe

SHOW YOU HOW
DID YOU MISS ME (gift of screws)
Look at us now / The years fall down / Show me how
SHOW YOU HOW (seeds we sow)
Come ‘round and get me, I’ll show you, show you, show you how

DROWN
DOWN ON RODEO (under the skin)
Faces of glass all hung in the past / They only come here to drown
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
It would do no good / To drown in the sea
Where no one remembers their name / And nothing but nothing is free

LIES
SAY GOODBYE (say you will)
It’s so hard to find your way / When the lies come around
STEAL YOUR HEART AWAY (say you will)
And the lie was creeping / Down, down, down / While we were sleeping

DANCE/CHANCES/TIME/CHANGING MINDS
DOWN ON RODEO (under the skin)
We never took quite enough chances / We never had quite enough time
I did about a thousand dances / But nothing would change your mind
SAY YOU WILL (say you will)
Say you will, say you will give me one more chance / At least give me time to change your mind
That always seems to heal the wounds, if I can / Get you to dance
NOT TOO LATE (seeds we sow)
And there’s a need for songs that are sung / For chances not taken for deeds not yet done

FAITH
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
THROWN DOWN (say you will)
You’ve shaken your faith in me, no / You’ve shaken my faith in everything else
A decision no one makes, and now you’re going home / Faith is a hard thing to hold on to
Something inside you says I don’t have to

MAGIC
CAST AWAY DREAMS (under the skin)
Magic one / All our dreams are done / I have no faith today
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
You were an angel / And I was a starving child / And we were…magic…

PASSION
UNDER THE SKIN (under the skin)
I know it’s hard being so hard to find / Your passion swallows you whole deaf dumb and blind
CHEAPER THAN FREE (in your dreams)
Better than fashion? High passion.
BOMBAY SAPPHIRES (trouble in shangri-la)
It’s there every day / It’s passion never fades / You know what I mean

SLOW DOWN
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
She said slow down baby, slow down now
MOONLIGHT (A VAMPIRE’S DREAM) (in your dreams)
He slows down / He’s so desperate to stop her / Meet her in the middle
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
Slow down, baby / Cross that line

SAVE/SURVIVE
IT TAKES TIME (extended play)
If you want to save me / It takes time
FALL FROM GRACE (trouble in shangri-la)
Maybe the reason I say these things / Is to bring you back alive
Maybe I fought this long and this hard / Just to make sure you survive

LINGER
SHOW YOU HOW (under the skin)
And the shadow singer will stand and linger in places no one ever goes
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
Would you still love to linger up against the wall?

MEMORY
MISS FANTASY (extended play)
It may be you don’t remember me / but I remember you
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
Forget me not, he says / I’m so afraid

FEAR
THE RIGHT PLACE TO FADE (gift of screws)
Come along lay down and talk to me / Tell me all your fear will allow
It doesn’t matter who we thought we were / We ain’t got time for that now
LOVE CHANGES (trouble in shangri-la)
When he was loving I was in tears / He knows my fears
YOU MAY BE THE ONE (in your dreams)
He says, there’s no fear in your eyes / Tell me another lie…

STRAIN
IN OUR OWN TIME (seeds we sow)
Fire still burning, in a while she’ll make it rain
These rooms are all falling down, they couldn’t stand the strain
EVERY DAY (trouble in shangri-la)
Don’t give me visions to explain / There are no doubts I feel the strain

Wow! Nice work :thumbsup: So why do you think he changed the date of when the song was written?

Megan

CADreaming

01-04-2014, 04:15 PM

Wow! Nice work :thumbsup: So why do you think he changed the date of when the song was written?

Megan

He changed the date because the dates changed.

MrStevie

01-04-2014, 04:20 PM

He changed the date because the dates changed.

He changed the date for the same reason Chris is saying she wrote "Over My Head" about him. :lol: These people crack me up. :lol: They never quit.:lol:

:woohoo:

CADreaming

01-04-2014, 04:45 PM

He changed the date for the same reason Chris is saying she wrote "Over My Head" about him. :lol: These people crack me up. :lol: They never quit.:lol:

:woohoo:

Hahaha! I've missed you! Welcome back. :woohoo:

MrStevie

01-04-2014, 04:53 PM

Hahaha! I've missed you! Welcome back. :woohoo:

:xoxo::xoxo::xoxo::xoxo: :wavey:

No telling how long it'll last. :angel:

:woohoo:

CADreaming

01-04-2014, 05:07 PM

:xoxo::xoxo::xoxo::xoxo: :wavey:

No telling how long it'll last. :angel:

:woohoo:

Haha! Understood! I will enjoy as long as I can. :xoxo:

StreetAngel86

01-04-2014, 06:09 PM

Now on the Stevie end of things- she has mentioned how much she adores Lindsey's children & I'd bet money that she shows Kristen a great deal of kindness & doesn't try to intimidate her... Stevie just doesn't seem like the type (now at least- when she was younger yeah probably). She may have a little streak of that in her every now & then so I have wondered if sometimes she says things about Lindsey just because she can... Because she is Stevie Nicks! And darn it, she coulda had Lindsey if she wanted him- but she broke up with him...If she had ever really really really wanted him back, she probably could of had him. It might have taken a little more effort after he got with Kristen but Stevie could have made it happen.

ITA. I bet if she wanted him back she could have him easily but she never has/doesn't want to/hasn't tried. I've always thought (despite his marriage) he's always (still) loved her more than she loves him. So it probably wouldn't take too much on her part to take him back...if she was inclined.

michelej1

01-04-2014, 06:32 PM

ITA. I bet if she wanted him back she could have him easily but she never has/doesn't want to/hasn't tried. I've always thought (despite his marriage) he's always (still) loved her more than she loves him. So it probably wouldn't take too much on her part to take him back...if she was inclined.

And I've always thought that neither has loved the other more than they've loved their own temperament and stubborn wills. They were both the type to have big arguments and leave. Sausalito and Aspen are probably only two examples of when Lindsey has left angrily.

The only way she could "get him back" is if she changed or stifled her personality. The only way he could "keep her" is if he changed his. Neither was ever likely to change for the other. He's never been the type who says, "if you take me back I'll be different." Getting Lindsey back is like getting a tiger by the tail. That's why she's written that he wouldn't let her love him. It's not like he'd make a docile return to her arms, if only she'd have him. He's never loved her enough to change for her and I think she did change for him, although she might have done that for her career more than for love. But I see the reason they stayed apart is because both would have to suppress too much of themselves to stay together. They'd have to stop being who they are. And who they are is what creates the passion and the conflict.

Michele

elle

01-04-2014, 06:38 PM

ITA. I bet if she wanted him back she could have him easily but she never has/doesn't want to/hasn't tried.

from all the stories sounds like she tried. succeeded. and then pulled back. for decades, that same circle. that's why she had him so hooked and why he was so messed up for so long.

I've always thought (despite his marriage) he's always (still) loved her more than she loves him. So it probably wouldn't take too much on her part to take him back...if she was inclined.

no, i think it's over now, as far as he's concerned. he's done and seems to find her and her quirks endearing now. maybe she actually does want him now or more probable she likes the idea of them as that whole power couple thing / the one that got away drama - even more because she can't have him, anymore. it may be just an act, a fodder that she uses in her interviews, and she actually doesn't care or has some healthy relationship going that nobody knows about, but from what she says it kinda sounds like she never grew up, relationship-wise. he finally did.

elle

01-04-2014, 06:42 PM

And I've always thought that neither has loved the other more than they've loved their own temperament and stubborn wills.

well yeah, but that doesn't make nearly as big or romantic story. :lol:

elle

01-04-2014, 06:52 PM

shoot this is intimacy thread. i made a decision a while ago that i won't go in here and will let you all enjoy it in peace.

sorry all! :lol: :wavey:

CADreaming

01-04-2014, 07:25 PM

shoot this is intimacy thread. i made a decision a while ago that i won't go in here and will let you all enjoy it in peace.

sorry all! :lol: :wavey:

:rolleyes:

lovethemac1

01-04-2014, 09:22 PM

I remember reading an interview with Kristen where she talks about meeting Lindsey for the first time & she said she knew who he was... And that he was in Fleetwood Mac, etc etc. Even if she didn't know all his history with Stevie up front I'm sure he had some explaining to do... So Kristen knew what she was getting into. And obviously the Stevie thing did not come between them... After all, Kristen & Lindsey have been together for how many years? if Stevie was going to come between them, seems like it woulda happened by now.
During the past three tours there have been questionable Stevie & Lindsey shipper stage moments- with this tour being the one with the most love & affection shared on stage...but Lindsey still goes home to Kristen & the kids & he's probably pretty happy with that. Also it doesn't seem like Stevie & Lindsey keep in close contact in between tours... So Lindsey is back to his real life with the wife & kids for years between tours. Kristen could put her foot down if she wasn't happy with Lindsey's relationship with Stevie...resulting in either him quitting Fleetwood Mac or him quitting her. Once again, neither of those things has happened...

Now on the Stevie end of things- she has mentioned how much she adores Lindsey's children & I'd bet money that she shows Kristen a great deal of kindness & doesn't try to intimidate her... Stevie just doesn't seem like the type (now at least- when she was younger yeah probably). She may have a little streak of that in her every now & then so I have wondered if sometimes she says things about Lindsey just because she can... Because she is Stevie Nicks! And darn it, she coulda had Lindsey if she wanted him- but she broke up with him...If she had ever really really really wanted him back, she probably could of had him. It might have taken a little more effort after he got with Kristen but Stevie could have made it happen.

As far as Lindsey's kids...well, if I found out my dad used to date Stevie Nicks (like a million years ago) I would think it was the coolest thing ever! But at the ages Lindsey's kids are now- they probably wouldn't think much about it. The only person their dad is with now is their mom. Thats what they know.

Of course this is all just my opinion on the matter.. For what its worth...

Those are very good points. I agree with you about the kids only knowing their mom and dad in the context that they do. They are too young to imagine anything else.
I do remember Kristen saying in an interview that she really didn't have any clue about the "spectre of Stevie." My guess is she was too young to have witnessed all the tabloid info about the 2 of them.
I agree with you about Stevie's personality and her not wanting to intimidate Kristen. If she really wanted to, I think she could. I think she and Lindsey still have enough between them to do so.
The Rolling Stone article I was reading today had Lindsey asking the interviewer where Stevie was, what did she say, etc. It sounded to me like they don't have a ton of interaction inbetween working together, but that he would like to know more about her.
Does anyone remember the story about Lindsey and Stevie getting very cozy during The Dance, even though he had been dating Kristen? Apparently he got a phone call stating that Kristen had found out she was pregnant, and so he felt he had to go back to her, so left Stevie. And that that was what Thrown Down was written about, and the poignant singing of Silver Springs on The Dance video?????? Maybe I just make these snippets up in my mind..................................................... If I am wrong, please let me know.

CADreaming

01-05-2014, 12:17 AM

Hi again you lovely people,

I'm not sure we've had a thread for really intimate pictures of Stevie & Lindsey on here...

I thought we should post some pictures of them being all cute with each other, like hugging and kissing and stuff, if we can find many?

This includes on stage pictures too, maybe from recent years ^-^

Thanks,
Leah

<3

To think, this poor girl only asked for a picture thread. :shrug:

michelej1

01-05-2014, 12:38 AM

To think, this poor girl only asked for a picture thread. :shrug:

People are free to put pictures in if they like.

Michele

nicole21290

01-05-2014, 12:47 AM

People are free to put pictures in if they like.

Michele

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/4855ef927cc0cc80a10a80abdccc01b5_zpsbfbba9e4.jpg

michelej1

01-05-2014, 12:53 AM

^Nicely played.

And leather and leather looks pretty nice.

Michele

nicole21290

01-05-2014, 02:06 AM

^Nicely played.

And leather and leather looks pretty nice.

Michele

It absolutely does. I do so enjoy when they co-ordinate their wardrobes and play matchy matchy...

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/a13cf0d6ebd1e09e087825b5f7d6da85_zps8d798c38.jpg

MoonSister75

01-05-2014, 04:09 AM

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/4855ef927cc0cc80a10a80abdccc01b5_zpsbfbba9e4.jpg

It absolutely does. I do so enjoy when they co-ordinate their wardrobes and play matchy matchy...

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/a13cf0d6ebd1e09e087825b5f7d6da85_zps8d798c38.jpg

ahhh..... they always look so good together :blob1:

fleetwoodmeg

01-05-2014, 11:05 AM

It absolutely does. I do so enjoy when they co-ordinate their wardrobes and play matchy matchy...

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/a13cf0d6ebd1e09e087825b5f7d6da85_zps8d798c38.jpg

Was it Valentines day? I don't remember seeing this picture:)

Megan

michelej1

01-05-2014, 01:34 PM

Was it Valentines day? I don't remember seeing this picture:)

Megan

They dressed like that for the Unleashed tour. That's why the guy on SNL dressed like that when he played Lindsey. Lindsey said that the actor was even wearing his "costume" which I found totally annoying. I guess if you consider it a costume, you are not going to change your shirt.

I believe Stevie had two identical dresses and one was red, although a more muted red than Lindsey's tee. Michele

lovethemac1

01-05-2014, 01:41 PM

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/4855ef927cc0cc80a10a80abdccc01b5_zpsbfbba9e4.jpg

Look at the expression on both their faces...............................hilarious!! A couple of hams.:lol:

michelej1

01-05-2014, 01:43 PM

Look at the expression on both their faces...............................hilarious!! A couple of hams.:lol:

Lindsey is so funny when he makes those faces. Funny there ^ but just hysterical when he's doing it during the SYW tour and his hair is sticking up wildly.

Michele

StreetAngel86

01-05-2014, 05:51 PM

well yeah, but that doesn't make nearly as big or romantic story. :lol:

:lol: Stevie let him go. He said okay, I can love enough for both of us :lol:

rhiannon22

01-05-2014, 07:10 PM

Was it Valentines day? I don't remember seeing this picture:)

Megan

Love this too! They look hot! :)

nicole21290

01-18-2014, 11:37 AM

brickney723

01-18-2014, 03:32 PM

It absolutely does. I do so enjoy when they co-ordinate their wardrobes and play matchy matchy...

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/a13cf0d6ebd1e09e087825b5f7d6da85_zps8d798c38.jpg

gah.. they are so beautiful together.

Seasonsofmylife

01-19-2014, 11:53 AM

singertobe

01-21-2014, 02:30 AM

I wish I knew how to post the actual photo here but I don't know how. Here's the link though:)
http://buckinghamnicks.tumblr.com/post/63715360359
http://25.media.tumblr.com/291c9169fde300d8d36b9bdbebf5ced0/tumblr_muhs5rM7MR1qhd4dno1_500.png

CADreaming

01-21-2014, 09:36 AM

I wish I knew how to post the actual photo here but I don't know how. Here's the link though:)
http://buckinghamnicks.tumblr.com/post/63715360359
http://25.media.tumblr.com/291c9169fde300d8d36b9bdbebf5ced0/tumblr_muhs5rM7MR1qhd4dno1_500.png

See this thread:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=52770

CADreaming

01-21-2014, 09:37 AM

brickney723

02-14-2014, 06:55 PM

http://leblow.co.uk/doing-passionate-love-affairs-the-celebrity-way/

Doing passionate love affairs the celebrity way
Posted by Chrissy on February 11, 2012 in Celebrities, Relationships ·
LET’S TALK ABOUT LOVE.

The desperate, all-consuming, ‘I can’t breathe when you’re not here’, split-apart-souls-finding-each-other kind of love. I’m sure we’ve all felt it at one time or another, perhaps even right now, but none of us are anywhere near interesting enough to warrant an entire piece on Le Blow, therefore I must cast my eyes into the world of celebrity.

The sheer intensity of some famous couples who have lived out their romance in the public eye can be fascinating. It’s a cliché, but the phrase ‘art imitating life’ seems to turn completely around until their lives imitate the art we associate them with, making the idea of them ever more aspirational.

In honour of Saint Valentine, I’m going to look at two such couples who I feel represent the very idea of life imitating their art. I bet you thought I’d write something about how much I hate this money spinning sop-fest and give it a nice big sarcastic kick up the arse eh?

Well I’m sorry. I’m a ho-ro. (Hopeless Romantic. That’s how the kids say it now, right?)

Lindsey Buckingham // Stevie Nicks

I decided to have a listen to my old MP3 player the other day, hadn’t used it in ages.
Once charged I pressed play, and the song I’d been listening to before the battery breathed it’s last was Thrown Down by Fleetwood Mac.

There are a lot of reasons why I love this song. I’m a huge fan of the band themselves, and it’s a very good tune, but the main draw for this one is the subject matter.

Stevie Nicks wrote the song, and it’s about a time when she and Buckingham had started to grow close to each other once more.

He fell for her again…she watched it happen…

Unfortunately (for Nicks), Buckingham’s then girlfriend announced she was pregnant and he did the honourable thing. But the pain of her loss for a second time is evident in the lyrics.

You say you’re sorry, now you should walk away…but it’s so overwhelming, you have nothing left to say.

Thus ended, for a second time, probably the most intense relationship in music history.

stevie-nicks-lindsey-buckingham

Nicks and Buckingham had met in the 1960’s, formed a band together called Fritz, and as time went on became a couple. The relationship was always a tumultuous one, with two ambitious and passionate musicians involved, it couldn’t be anything else.

They joined Fleetwood Mac in 1975, revitalising the line-up and helping them to become one of the most successful acts of the 70’s and 80’s. But band pressures, and the passionate nature of the Nicks/Buckingham relationship caused their romance to unravel, an event captured in the lyrics of certain ‘Rumours’ tracks. Easily spotted, so I won’t ruin it for you, you can make a game of it one afternoon when you’re bored.

Another song written by Nicks during the recording of Rumours entitled ‘Silver Springs’ didn’t make it on to the album, but gives great insight into her view of the relationship at that time.

Time casts a spell on you, but you won’t forget me…I know I could have loved you, but you would not let me.

At the height of their romance, the couple lived together for six years, with Nicks remarking it was the closest thing to being married she’d ever experienced. Nicks married once, but is divorced.

Buckingham is married with three children, but that means nothing to me. As far as I’m concerned they are star-crossed lovers, souls intertwined, thank you very much, goodnight, THE END.

You know, when Lindsey and I go back and forth on the songs that were written between the two of us, for that moment, we are back in love again.
~ Stevie Nicks, BAM Magazine, August 22, 1997

Richard Burton // Elizabeth Taylor

The beautiful Elizabeth Taylor was buried with the last ever love letter Richard Burton had sent to her. Supposedly in it, he had asked for another chance, saying he was at his happiest with Elizabeth.

Everyone knows the Burton-Taylor romance was an intense one. Describing his first sight of a 19-year-old Elizabeth, Burton said, ‘she was so extraordinarily beautiful, I wanted to laugh out loud.’

Fate and marriages to others conspired to keep the two apart, but when they met again during the filming of the epic film ‘Cleopatra’ in 1961, nothing was going to stop them. Even the fact that they were both married during this time seemed of little consequence, their rampant lovemaking during filming breaks was renowned.

But the greatest passions are always stormy. We know Burton and Taylor got married twice, but until fairly recently we weren’t really aware of how this great love storm was documented in a series of letters sent between the two throughout their romance. Burton’s feelings for Taylor are clear, as well as his deeply poetic nature:

Well, first of all, you must realise that I worship you. Second of all, at the expense of seeming repetitive, I love you. Thirdly, and here I go again with my enormous command of language, I can’t live without you. And I am afraid. Afeared. In terms of my life, scared. Lost. Alone. Dull. Dumb.

Is it not enough that they are both incredibly attractive, talented, rich? They also get to have a love like this? A love so strong and passionate that it ends up destroying and rediscovering itself twice? Burton and Taylor are the kind of celebrity romance I aspire to… though it had more ups and downs than a trampoline, I bet the ups made them feel more alive than most ever feel. The pain and longing of the downs would be exsquisite.

taylor and burton cleopatra

My opinion may be slightly rose-tinted and WEIRD, I admit, but I’ve always been of the belief that it’s better to live life at your maximum speed than just trundle along in the bus lane criticising other drivers. This is never truer than when in reference to love.

Don’t be scared to make a move if there’s someone you like. They may be your Buckingham, your Taylor, the other half that you’ve been quietly waiting for. If you do find them, every single day will be the most romantic one of your life and you’ll no longer have need of Saint Valentine.
I am forever punished by the gods for being given the fire and trying to put it out. The fire, of course, is you…

Although… who wouldn’t want a card on the 14th with THAT written inside?

Love letter excerpts from ‘Furious Love: Elizabeth Taylor & Richard Burton, The Marriage of the Century’.

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ragrsrocalot

02-14-2014, 08:04 PM

from all the stories sounds like she tried. succeeded. and then pulled back. for decades, that same circle. that's why she had him so hooked and why he was so messed up for so long.

no, i think it's over now, as far as he's concerned. he's done and seems to find her and her quirks endearing now. maybe she actually does want him now or more probable she likes the idea of them as that whole power couple thing / the one that got away drama - even more because she can't have him, anymore. it may be just an act, a fodder that she uses in her interviews, and she actually doesn't care or has some healthy relationship going that nobody knows about, but from what she says it kinda sounds like she never grew up, relationship-wise. he finally did.[/B]

5:55 - 6:35 :shrug:

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elle

02-15-2014, 12:52 AM

[/B][/B]

5:55 - 6:35 :shrug:

aww, love it when he goes off the script!

here's Michele's description of that (from http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=1104603&postcount=92):

"When she turns the story over to Lindsey, he (fake) blusters and finally says that when Mick called him he said that he wouldn’t come without his girlfriend because he loved her that much. She bows to him. Then he adds, “And look where that got me.” Stevie howls, “No you DIDN’T just say that?!”

Lindsey scurries to Mick’s side and Stevie says he is hiding behind Mick. She advises Mick to just hit Lindsey with the sticks. "

SteveMacD

02-15-2014, 01:47 AM

Thankfully, that banter goes away after the return of one songbird...