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strandinthewind · #76 11-20-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

Well, it's not a question of being right or wrong. It's really just a failure to understand why if Stevie says she likes tapioca pudding, you think you have to defend tapioca to the death, plus throw in a couple of claims about tapioca's health benefits.

Then, if I said, you know, that chocolate pudding is yummy. You'd think that was a slur against Stevie and the tapioca.

Michele

You're always right and other's need to realize that - happy now

RockAlot · #77 11-20-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango

Yes FOUR. Neither Stevie or her partners were particlarly responsible people. This conversation always tends to end up being judgemental, but it's part of her past. I guess this article pops up from time to time here and on other boards. The whole band did a lot of drugs--more than most of us can imagine. They were not particularly responsible in a lot of areas of their lives. Mick did a lot of drugs, cheated on his wife and went bankrupt, several times. I suspect if pregnancy were a possibility in men's lives, a few of the men in Fleetwood Mac would also be pregnant several times! Lindsey did a lot of drugs and 'abused' at least two women. John did a lot of drugs and became a alcoholic, and was self destructive to his own health. Did they all practice safe sex? Who knows. But it's doubtful. Christine did a lot of drugs and alcohol--but had herself sterilized. Did she get sterilized after having had to "deal" with the situation in the past? Only she knows. It's a drastic step. Perhaps she is the most responsible of the irresponsible in the band.

If anyone is looking for 'role models of the 70s for your children', this might not be a good band to choose. Then again are there role models from rock & roll bands from the 70s or any era? People on drugs/alcohol or 'other influences' aren't particularly responsible folks. They do make for interesting discussion. It's their history that makes them who they are. Their history fashioned and affected their music. They find they can't always fix the past. Their regret is in their music.

Christine points out:
Why not think about times to come,
And not about the things that you've done

Yesterday's gone. Yesterday's gone.

Wow, I just had to say "WOW"... ... That is so ture !!

Steviefan49 · #78 11-20-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GODDESS6

i have always respected stevie's privacy on this topic~ whether or not it happened or how many times, doesn't affect how i feel about her~ i will never know what it was like, especially back then, to walk a day in her shoes~ & i don't mean any of us who have dreamed of being stevie, the on stage persona we all love, but the one we know had many, many dark days in her life also, & i won't judge her decisions on how she handled things in her personal life~ i can't imagine some of the pressure she must have been under, especially after becoming a successful member of fm~

I'm with you on this Jill! I SOOO respect her privacy... and no way would I judge anyone's decisions on this topic at all!

Hugs,

Arlene

wolfontherun · #79 11-21-2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RoseGarden

Well, one admitted abortion is enough for me to think the money and the fast lane was more important. Just an observation.

Like I stated, Pat Benetar was a heavy rocker that lost maybe 4 years out of a career , to take time out to have a child . Having a baby is not the end of the world. Talented artist can still move forward. How long did it take in between rehabs and such to get back on track? We fans still buy her music and go to her concert.

Not trying to bash Stevie, it's her right to her privacy. but this subject was brought up and I just contributed. sorry if you disagree

But Pat benator is not a Stevie Nicks and is certainly no where near FM so the comparison is not a fair one. Also PB career died in the mid to late 80s and never recovered. Yes I know she still tours but today she is not relevant and Stevie is.

On a lighter note her recreation of her home on a soundstage to get better lighting is the single funniest bit of Divadom I have ever read, you go Stevie.

wolfontherun · #80 11-21-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Stevie is the Beethoven of her day, some say: No kids, no marriage, complete devotion to art & career, wild hair, wild heart, short in stature, imposing in demeanor.

Beethoven was deaf; Stevie is blind.

Both prone to irritable bowels & both fond of baked freshwater fish.

BTW to all does it matter if she had 1 or 10? I think not. Stevie is the only one who needs to be concerned witht his issue and no one else.

cratesok6 · #81 11-21-2008, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Stevie has also been in love exactly 17 thousand and twelve times.

But the BIG loves of her life - the REALLY Earth-SHATTERING ones - - - were Lindsey, Don Henley, Joe Walsh, Jimmy Iovine, Tom Petty, Prince, Paul Fishkin, Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Karen Anderson, Kenny Rogers, Mike Campbell, Sheryl Crow, Waddy Wachtell, some anonymous waiter, and this guy named "You" who fell in love in 1958.

If you do the math, that's alot of abortions per love affair! Oh, and you forgot to add me, which by the way inspired her to write just about every song she ever wrote (except Sara of course).

cratesok6 · #82 11-21-2008, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

You forgot about Andy. Stevie was totally smitten with him, and he inspired one of her greatest songs.

"Andy was just like a great dark wing...."

She was also quite taken with Howie and his strength & determination.

"Howie could make it... Howie could get out...."

She's had many loves, our Stevie.

dnightshade · #83 11-21-2008, 12:42 PM

Wow. I never know what sort of conversations I'll come across to report back on when I come here. I guess I should try and find the time to get back more often. I usually don't say much - just observe - but I feel the need to say this: This whole abortion thing needs to be put to Rest, okay? It was all a long time ago and has absolutely no relevence now. And to bring it up is hurtful and disappointing to people. Whether it's one or 100 doesn't matter to anyone but the person who had to live through it. And no one knows the pain someone might still be carrying and the effect it might still have.

Good call on "The Tower", absolutely right. But it's still an incredibly poignant song.

Oh, and for the record, "dating" someone doesn't necessarily mean going to bed w them. Friendships can be incredibly passionate and affectionate w/out being sexual. Drama takes place outside the bedroom as well, just an FYI.

And comparing someone's behavior 25-30 years ago is beside the point. Drugs and alcohol do interfere w rational (and responsible) thoughts and actions, obviously. So I don't quite get the purpose of agruing about what someone did or didn't do under the influence.

This is all I'm saying.

skcin · #84 11-21-2008, 01:50 PM

Seems that some here often seem to confuse this message board with a courtroom. Damn near impossible to read a post without mention of statements. defense, conclusions & evidence. Yawwwwwwn.

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Originally Posted by wolfontherun

But Pat benator is not a Stevie Nicks and is certainly no where near FM so the comparison is not a fair one. Also PB career died in the mid to late 80s and never recovered. Yes I know she still tours but today she is not relevant and Stevie is.
On a lighter note her recreation of her home on a soundstage to get better lighting is the single funniest bit of Divadom I have ever read, you go Stevie.

Are you for real?

What makes Stevie relevant today?
Please tell me.

strandinthewind · #85 11-21-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

Seems that some here often seem to confuse this message board with a courtroom. Damn near impossible to read a post without mention of statements. defense, conclusions & evidence. Yawwwwwwn.

Are you for real?

What makes Stevie relevant today?
Please tell me.

Who pissed in your fukcing Cheerios