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Remy 11-17-2008 06:56 AM

old article- abortions
 
So I've been browsing through some old articles...This one from VOX mag, 1992. Deserted by Mick Fleetwood, bullied by her record company, and haunted by the memory of four abortions, Stevie Nicks is rich but not happy.

FOUR??

chriskisn 11-17-2008 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Remy (Post 784508)
So I've been browsing through some old articles...This one from VOX mag, 1992. Deserted by Mick Fleetwood, bullied by her record company, and haunted by the memory of four abortions, Stevie Nicks is rich but not happy.

FOUR??

Hmm...maybe someone could have explained to her about contraception... :D

Tango 11-17-2008 09:13 AM

Yes FOUR. Neither Stevie or her partners were particlarly responsible people. This conversation always tends to end up being judgemental, but it's part of her past. I guess this article pops up from time to time here and on other boards. The whole band did a lot of drugs--more than most of us can imagine. They were not particularly responsible in a lot of areas of their lives. Mick did a lot of drugs, cheated on his wife and went bankrupt, several times. I suspect if pregnancy were a possibility in men's lives, a few of the men in Fleetwood Mac would also be pregnant several times! Lindsey did a lot of drugs and 'abused' at least two women. John did a lot of drugs and became a alcoholic, and was self destructive to his own health. Did they all practice safe sex? Who knows. But it's doubtful. Christine did a lot of drugs and alcohol--but had herself sterilized. Did she get sterilized after having had to "deal" with the situation in the past? Only she knows. It's a drastic step. Perhaps she is the most responsible of the irresponsible in the band.

If anyone is looking for 'role models of the 70s for your children', this might not be a good band to choose. Then again are there role models from rock & roll bands from the 70s or any era? People on drugs/alcohol or 'other influences' aren't particularly responsible folks. They do make for interesting discussion. It's their history that makes them who they are. Their history fashioned and affected their music. They find they can't always fix the past. Their regret is in their music.

Christine points out:
Why not think about times to come,
And not about the things that you've done

Yesterday's gone. Yesterday's gone.

Remy 11-17-2008 09:42 AM

I wasn't about to be judgemental. I was wondering if the author had it right.

SortaSavageLike 11-17-2008 10:01 AM

Are you sure? I heard she has 1,457,312,641 abortions. :shrug:

Sanne2 11-17-2008 10:34 AM

I have that article, it's a very interesting read not just because it mentions the abortions but also it tells something about the state she was in at the time (a very bad state)

DashingDan 11-17-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanne2 (Post 784522)
I have that article, it's a very interesting read not just because it mentions the abortions but also it tells something about the state she was in at the time (a very bad state)

Yes, it is a very interesting read. She's very plaintive and pathetic-sounding at times. I purchased the mag back when it came out, not knowing it had a Stevie article in it. I was really psyched when I turned the page and saw it, but after I read it. and saw the pictures, I was bummed out for days. There were many details in the article that made me think,"Wow, she's really checked out of life".. I had pretty much given up on her being productive after reading that (particularly after seeing a very piss-poor zonked out timespace show). Remember, no one knew about the klonopin then, and she wasn't talking about it either.

BellaDonna93 11-17-2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DashingDan (Post 784524)
Yes, it is a very interesting read. She's very plaintive and pathetic-sounding at times. I purchased the mag back when it came out, not knowing it had a Stevie article in it. I was really psyched when I turned the page and saw it, but after I read it. and saw the pictures, I was bummed out for days. There were many details in the article that made me think,"Wow, she's really checked out of life".. I had pretty much given up on her being productive after reading that (particularly after seeing a very piss-poor zonked out timespace show). Remember, no one knew about the klonopin then, and she wasn't talking about it either.

Can anyone post the article here, please? I really want to read it!

Sanne2 11-17-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BellaDonna93 (Post 784527)
Can anyone post the article here, please? I really want to read it!

You're lucky I already had it scanned and on my pc :)
http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc496/..._122_496lo.jpghttp://img45.imagevenue.com/loc1068/...122_1068lo.jpghttp://img227.imagevenue.com/loc541/..._122_541lo.jpg

joe68 11-17-2008 12:13 PM

Can you make it bigger? Thanks!!!!

BellaDonna93 11-17-2008 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joe68 (Post 784532)
Can you make it bigger? Thanks!!!!

Well, thanks for posting Sanne2 :)

Joe68: You can click on the image and then it'll be bigger!

joe68 11-17-2008 12:41 PM

Sorry but no - its not working for me. :( Anything else i can do?

strandinthewind 11-17-2008 12:48 PM

There have been threads about this topic and article before. Essentially, there is a debate about whether La Nicks is talking about the four loves of her life or whether she is explicitly stating that she had four abortions. I believe this article comes from a live interview which should be available somewhere. In that interview, it is unclear as to her meaning, though I think she refers to the four great loves and not four abortions.

Also, this discussion usually winds up getting into a big fight. So, I think we should drop it. At least I am.

Sanne2 11-17-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by joe68 (Post 784534)
Sorry but no - its not working for me. :( Anything else i can do?

It works fine for me, but if you click a thumb and it doesn't load, click it away and try again, it's an imagevenue-thing.

Remy 11-17-2008 04:59 PM

Thanks Sanne!
I'll never quite understand how they got back all together after all this drama and heartbreak. And from Stevie's words, Mick really comes out as a cold, calculating man.
Well, it's a miracle she bounced back from that sorry state long ago.


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