That's So Gay - Page 4

cliffdweller · #46 03-01-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah

We need to institute an "IN YOUR FACE, PANSY" day.. like casual Friday, where people say whatever they want without worrying that it hurts someone else's "feelings". This walking-on-eggshells, god-forbid-i-offend-someone, careful-what-you-say-all-the-time **** is for the birds, man.

Yeah, you're right. What sensitive assholes. I think provoking people with hateful speech is a great idea! Man, I certainly know that I love to be called derogatory names and treated like ****, I mean like, ya know, it's all good, right?

Please.

Sarah · #47 03-01-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cliffdweller

Yeah, you're right. What sensitive assholes. I think provoking people with hateful speech is a great idea! Man, I certainly know that I love to be called derogatory names and treated like ****, I mean like, ya know, it's all good, right?

Please.

Ah, go to hell. You're just as guilty, as witnessed here.

Holier than Thou likes to provoke a little, too, eh?

Save it, cuz I'm totally not sorry.

trackaghost · #48 03-01-2007, 05:07 PM

A DJ here in England got in trouble for calling something gay (meaning it was lame) on air. Apparently there were loads of complaints about it.
I have quite a few gay friends who all thought it was ridiculous (as did I) but some people are much more sensitive about it, it seems, and don't think it's funny at all.

amber · #49 03-01-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LikeAWillow

Good for the school for trying to put a stop to it. I can't stand it when people use phrases like "That's so gay" or "That's so retarded." Those same people would be appalled, hopefully at least, to hear things like "That's so black", "That's so Jewish", "That's so *insert minority here*" tossed around.

Those are two of my favorite phrases. I think I'll start saying "That's so gayly retarded"

Anyway, this thread is long, and I don't have that kinda time, and I'm sure bunches of people made the points that the phrase shouldn't be said, and why.
That just reminded me of that time in the music store when that gay worker guy got sooooo offended when I said "that's so gay" that dogs can come in the store but not me on my rollerblades, and told me to "roll my big butt on outta there".

I still think he was hella lame, though. I don't like when certain groups of people "own" words. That being said, sometimes I try to watch my mouth because obviously I don't want to offend anyone, especially as I am not prejudiced against either gay or mentally challenged people. Well, I'm kinda prejudiced against mentally handicapped people who don't actually have anything medically wrong with them, and sometimes really, really, really happy people (gay) piss me off, but overall, not so much.

It's unfortunate that such a funny thing to say (to me) originated as an insult to a group of people, homosexuals. However, to me, "gay" in that context doesn't even make me think of gay people, it never did. It just means "lame" in my head. I realize that doesn't change the actual meaning of the word.

It's hella retarded that people are so sensitive about the words, but I understand. Actually, retarded isn't even the word for mentally challenged people anymore, it is just back to its original meaning, which was "slow", right? So if I want to say something is "slow", it seems that I can use retarded.

It doesn't really matter, I'll still say those things. Because I'm not talking about, or referring to, either actual gay or actually mentally challenged people when I say them.

Sarah · #50 03-01-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by takenbythesky

Education might be the answer. But like I said, kids are often mean and thick-headed. In the world today, you need to have a thick skin if you're different. Unfortunately, there won't always be a school administrator to stick up for homosexuals or other minority groups. So I don't think being coddled is necessarily the answer. On the flipside, the "that's so gay" kid won't always have parents to sue when anyone crosses them. It might not be fair, but that's life. If the past thirty years are any indication, things should ultimately look better for future generations.

I don't think this was about protecting homosexuals, so much as making an example out of the girl. A gay kid got beaten up by kids in that school, obviously there are "PR" problems that go along with that, and the school wants to come across as zero tolerance on that particular issue. So this girl says gay, and gets in trouble for it. That's lame, point blank. It doesn't even have anything to do with gay people at all really. If she got in trouble for saying that, the religious taunts should have been punished as well.

Beachwood Mac · #51 03-01-2007, 05:26 PM

I have been involved with the Special Olympics organization since 1988. When I first started, the acceptable term was Mental Retardation to describe our athletes. In 2003 Special Olympics athletes from around the world held a Global Athlete's Congress, in conjunction with the World Games in Dublin, Ireland. Out of this meeting of athletes came a change in terminology that would be used to describe participants in Special Olympics. The mission statement was changed to reflect the athlete's wishes. This is how it is defined on the Special Olympics website:

Why did Special Olympics update its terminology from “mental retardation” to “intellectual disabilities”? In response to a call from our athletes and the growing social unacceptability of the term “mental retardation” around the world, Special Olympics has adopted the term “intellectual disabilities” when referring to the people with whom we serve. The word “mental” can be confused with the term “mental illness” and the word “retardation” is associated with offensive terms such as “retard” or “retarded.”

carrie721 · #52 03-01-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah

Ah, go to hell. You're just as guilty, as witnessed here.

Holier than Thou likes to provoke a little, too, eh?

Save it, cuz I'm totally not sorry.

DavidMn · #53 03-01-2007, 05:42 PM

I think its good that the school put a quick stop to this, but I'm a little worried about the whole lawsuit thing. We cant sue everyone at the drop of a hat.

markolas · #54 03-01-2007, 06:51 PM

Uh, well, all I can say is...feel free to use a gay slur around me, and see what happens. You'll be picking yourself, and probably your teeth, up off the ground.

amber · #55 03-01-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas

Uh, well, all I can say is...feel free to use a gay slur around me, and see what happens. You'll be picking yourself, and probably your teeth, up off the ground.

Do you consider "That's so gay!" to be a gay slur? Should I roll my big butt on outta here?

markolas · #56 03-01-2007, 06:54 PM

And I'll tell you something else. If I lived in a less gay-friendly area (which is most of the United States), I'd probably be packing heat. I think more gay people should own handguns, really. Maybe a few fagbashers with bullets in their brains would persuade some of you to not be so callous.

markolas · #57 03-01-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Do you consider "That's so gay!" to be a gay slur? Should I roll my big butt on outta here?

Honestly, I've never actually heard anyone say it. But I don't hang out with 16-year olds, so...

I was vaguely aware that it's a popular thing for kids to say, but yes, I think it's a slur.

estranged4life · #58 03-01-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

It's like the Geico commercials. So easy a caveman could do it.

"And that upsets you?"

"Yes. How would you feel if it said 'so easy a therapist could do it'."

"Well, that commercial wouldn't make sense to me."

"Why? Because therapists are smart?"

Stony silence.