That's So Gay

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by skcin

"Now Strand, it's not nice to call Sparky a faggot. Even if he is one."

How's about anal aviating rump ranger who has to use the words "highest, loftiest, upmost, uppermost" because she can't even say the word top - YEEEE HAAAAAAA

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Sarah

. . . On a lighter note, I'm going to start saying "that's so hetero" for stuff that's stupid and see if it catches on. I bet it will, because a lot of my friends tend to pick up on phrases that I use (not because I'm sooooo cool.. just because i say a lot of whack ****).

But, isn't that phrase used in a somewhat demeaning manner now. I mean the whole "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" was premised on fat straight guys with bad hygeine, which is a stereotype I mean how many people do not consider gay people to have waaaayyy more panache than any random straight person

[ryan8472]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Interestingly, it is all kids. I have personally witness black kids ganging up on white kids this way. Yet, they are kind of given a free pass for it.

In the end, kids are mean and there is not much we can do about it other than try to educate them.

Well we can keep doing nothing, which in turn solves nothing, or parents can start teaching their children how to act. Then again, we don't like to tell parents how to raise their kids. Maybe we should? We can't beat the kids, because they'll keep doing the same to their kids. We can't just remind them not to do something, because children these days have attention spans of a goldfish because of the "learning disabilities" they are told they have. And we certainly can't discuss homosexuality and diversity in health class, because the parents will **** bricks. So therefore, I guess we just need to place computer chips in children's brains.

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

How's about anal aviating rump ranger who has to use the words "highest, loftiest, upmost, uppermost" because she can't even say the word top - YEEEE HAAAAAAA

[Sarah]

strand, i think queer eye is stereotypical on both sides of the aisle. not all straight men are slobs, and not all gay men are queens. 2 wrongs don't make a right.. i guess it's just even there.

and teaching about diversity in health class.. it's a shame we don't. but i mean, i totally see the parents argument here. truly. if we keep teaching our kids about being gay, they'll just keep growing up gay and and having gay kids... oh wait.

/sarcasm

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Sarah

It really is a grey area. And to be honest, I don't think there is a way to decide how to draw the line until it gets to the point of hate crime.

As bad as a slur is, it's like.. if someone has that in their soul anyway, does it matter to them if someone tells them they're bad? I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words on this. Freedom of speech is a double edged sword, for sure. It's a shame that people say some of the things they do, but it's even more of a shame that everyone feels the need to care about what everyone else thinks of them.

On a lighter note, I'm going to start saying "that's so hetero" for stuff that's stupid and see if it catches on. I bet it will, because a lot of my friends tend to pick up on phrases that I use (not because I'm sooooo cool.. just because i say a lot of whack ****).

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

But, isn't that phrase used in a somewhat demeaning manner now. I mean the whole "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" was premised on fat straight guys with bad hygeine, which is a stereotype I mean how many people do not consider gay people to have waaaayyy more panache than any random straight person

Yeah, it kind of is a put down to say a guy's hetero - it implies that he can't dress himself, is out of shape, has bad hair & skin.

People say things all the time - they may be ignorant to the fact that it's offensive, or tacky, or in poor taste. Maybe they don't care. I honestly don't think they hate the demographic to which they're referring to. For the most part anyway.

"He Jewed me on the price."

"I'm not buying that Jap Crap."

"She drives a Rice Burner."

"That's mighty white of you."


Am I the only one who's heard people say the above? I don't think it's cool to say these things, but I'm not going to get all holier-than-thou on people who do.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

How's about anal aviating rump ranger who has to use the words "highest, loftiest, upmost, uppermost" because she can't even say the word top - YEEEE HAAAAAAA

"loftiest, upmost and uppermost"? My vocabulary is better than that.
And I'll be happy to hoot to the rooftops the word TOP as I'm busting your Sugarbaker keister and showing you what for.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by ryan8472

Well we can keep doing nothing, which in turn solves nothing, or parents can start teaching their children how to act. Then again, we don't like to tell parents how to raise their kids. Maybe we should? We can't beat the kids, because they'll keep doing the same to their kids. We can't just remind them not to do something, because children these days have attention spans of a goldfish because of the "learning disabilities" they are told they have. And we certainly can't discuss homosexuality and diversity in health class, because the parents will **** bricks. So therefore, I guess we just need to place computer chips in children's brains.

Oh - I agree education is the deal. But, that would require parents to give a crap and if they did, to actually like gay people, which many do not, esp. where their kids are concerned.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by sparky

"loftiest, upmost and uppermost"? My vocabulary is better than that.
And I'll be happy to hoot to the rooftops the word TOP as I'm busting your Sugarbaker keister and showing you what for.

I am limping at the very thought

[sparky]

Originally Posted by skcin

"He Jewed me on the price."

"I'm not buying that Jap Crap."

"She drives a Rice Burner."

"That's mighty white of you."


Am I the only one who's heard people say the above?

I think I heard you say all of those over two hours of mexican food and tequila.

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by skcin

"He Jewed me on the price."

i am totally guilty (lol, typed quilty.. like tp) of saying similar to the above. i guess that kind of stuff just slips. and it's easy to make slips like that when there aren't a lot of different cultures in your area.

but there again.. it has nothing to do with the Jewish religion, other than at some point, the cheap stereotype was applied to them.

these phrases are so widely understood. it's amazing how language works, really.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by skcin

. . . ."He Jewed me on the price."

Interestingly, stereotyopes are grounded in reality. Even the Jews joke about how cheap they are - see any Mel Brooks movie, The Nanny, Seinfeld, and so on. So, I think the expression is okay - though I would be hesitant to use it because some thin skinned a$$hole might get offended and call me anti-S. -- which is horseshiitte

[skcin]

Originally Posted by sparky

I think I heard you say all of those over two hours of mexican food and tequila.

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Interestingly, stereotyopes are grounded in reality. Even the Jews joke about how cheap they are - see any Mel Brooks movie, The Nanny, Seinfeld, and so on. So, I think the expression is okay - though I would be hesitant to use it because some thin skinned a$$hole might get offended and call me anti-S. -- which is horseshiitte

Abnd most black people joke about how they like watermelon. I would be hesistant to say that though. Since I'm white. Although, I have no problem with joking that Polish people are stupid - since I'm part Polish. But I'm not stupid. Wait......

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by skcin

. . . Although, I have no problem with joking that Polish people are stupid - since I'm part Polish. But I'm not stupid. Wait......

2 + 2 = ?

[skcin]

It's like the Geico commercials. So easy a caveman could do it.

"And that upsets you?"

"Yes. How would you feel if it said 'so easy a therapist could do it'."

"Well, that commercial wouldn't make sense to me."

"Why? Because therapists are smart?"

Stony silence.