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Old 07-23-2025, 09:50 PM
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One small but important correction: “Don’t Stop” was the third single from Rumours. “You Make Loving Fun” was the fourth.
In fact, YMLF and “Sentimental Lady” were on the charts at the same time. YMLF peaked on Dec. 17, 1977 and SL peaked on Jan. 7, 1978.
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Just a thought. Thriller had 7 singles. I don't know if it's because I'm a fan but I could release 7 singles from Rumours.
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Just a thought. Thriller had 7 singles. I don't know if it's because I'm a fan but I could release 7 singles from Rumours.
Every song on the album is heard on some radio channel somewhere. Even casual fans know all the songs. We once speculated here what the 5th single would be and Second Hand News was the pick.
However there is another example what made Rumours such a great album. The Chain and Gold Dust Woman are 2 main plays on classic rock stations. Everyone knows them yet they were never singles. Many of The Rolling Stones biggest hits were never released as singles. They became hits the same way The Chain and GDW became hits. The album was so good radio dug in and played other songs. It sort of happened with the White album too. World Turning and Landslide got some serious radio play.
However looking back I sort of see why the record company stopped. The Mac was already laying tracks for their next album and did not want to burn out the audience. Madonna's record company had that issue. Like A Virgin was already finished and ready for release but her prior album was still charting. They stopped and immediately released Like A Virgin and the audience embraced the saturation. However Madonna is not a good example because she broke all the norms.
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They stopped and immediately released Like A Virgin and the audience embraced the saturation. However Madonna is not a good example because she broke all the norms.
Thriller must be the best-selling album of all time and Madonna must have been a phenomenom that broke all the norms, but if I think in saturation, it's the Bee Gees who immediately come to mind. By the end of 1978 they were still playing their Saturday Night Fever songs. Not only on radios, I remember one that had "The Bee Gees" hour every weekday at 6pm, playing current hits and oldies. But also on department stores, in cinemas before the movie started, etc.

And by October that year the Spirits Having Flown singles started to appear. And I don't forget all the songs where they were involved those years. Samantha Sang, Andy Gibb, Yvonne Elliman, etc. I love the Bee Gees but I was over saturated those years.
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Thriller must be the best-selling album of all time and Madonna must have been a phenomenom that broke all the norms, but if I think in saturation, it's the Bee Gees who immediately come to mind. By the end of 1978 they were still playing their Saturday Night Fever songs. Not only on radios, I remember one that had "The Bee Gees" hour every weekday at 6pm, playing current hits and oldies. But also on department stores, in cinemas before the movie started, etc.

And by October that year the Spirits Having Flown singles started to appear. And I don't forget all the songs where they were involved those years. Samantha Sang, Andy Gibb, Yvonne Elliman, etc. I love the Bee Gees but I was over saturated those years.
Because the Bee Gees became disco superstars their career sort of died with disco. But you are right. Saturday Night Fever was huge for them and immediately after still was pumping out huge hits for another 2 years.
But then crickets
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Because the Bee Gees became disco superstars their career sort of died with disco. But you are right. Saturday Night Fever was huge for them and immediately after still was pumping out huge hits for another 2 years.
But then crickets
Not exactly. Samantha Sang had a hit with “Emotion” in 1978, Frankie Valli had a hit with “Grease” in 1978, Barry Gibb and Streisand had a massive hit with “Guilty” in 1980, Dionne Warwick had a big hit with “Heartbreaker” in 1982, and Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers had a massive hit with “Islands in the Stream” in 1983. So, their songs were still charting for a while afterwards.

ETA: Not to mention Andy Gibb.
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Not exactly. Samantha Sang had a hit with “Emotion” in 1978, Frankie Valli had a hit with “Grease” in 1978, Barry Gibb and Streisand had a massive hit with “Guilty” in 1980, Dionne Warwick had a big hit with “Heartbreaker” in 1982, and Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers had a massive hit with “Islands in the Stream” in 1983. So, their songs were still charting for a while afterwards.

ETA: Not to mention Andy Gibb.
Now you are freaking me out Steve. The discussion was burn out of the Bee Gees not songs they wrote and gave to different artists. But Guilty featured the Bee Gees in 1980 when Disco was about to get the death nail. Emotion was from 1978 during the saturation which makes the point. They were burned out after Saturday Night Fever. They hit with a huge #1 Tragedy in 1979 but their career ended and they could not get on the charts again. I think they had a mild hit "One" in 1988 and it was a big deal even though it charted horribly.
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Now you are freaking me out Steve. The discussion was burn out of the Bee Gees not songs they wrote and gave to different artists. But Guilty featured the Bee Gees in 1980 when Disco was about to get the death nail. Emotion was from 1978 during the saturation which makes the point. They were burned out after Saturday Night Fever. They hit with a huge #1 Tragedy in 1979 but their career ended and they could not get on the charts again. I think they had a mild hit "One" in 1988 and it was a big deal even though it charted horribly.
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Their influence as songwriters continued for at least another five years or so.

And, after VH-1 started focusing on classics in the mid ‘90s, their ‘60s stuff -especially “To Love Somebody”- started being revisited. Before they started dying off, they were a massive concert act.

Their trajectory -factoring in Andy Gibb- wasn’t dissimilar to Fleetwood Mac’s. Some ‘60s success, absolutely dominant late ‘70s success, still relevant into the ‘80s (as successful songwriters for other artists, including their brother), and then an incredibly in-demand oldies act towards the end.

They were never at risk of not getting work.
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False.

Their influence as songwriters continued for at least another five years or so.

And, after VH-1 started focusing on classics in the mid ‘90s, their ‘60s stuff -especially “To Love Somebody”- started being revisited. Before they started dying off, they were a massive concert act.

Their trajectory -factoring in Andy Gibb- wasn’t dissimilar to Fleetwood Mac’s. Some ‘60s success, absolutely dominant late ‘70s success, still relevant into the ‘80s (as successful songwriters for other artists, including their brother), and then an incredibly in-demand oldies act towards the end.

They were never at risk of not getting work.
Ha ha. I knew you were going to say that
They were never a disco band but became super stars in the disco era. Was it not Saturday Night Fever that knocked Rumours out of the top spot. They were huge and all disco acts suffered the same fate. I am not trying to prove you wrong because that is not needed. You provided songs post SNF that you claim still had them successful. Yet those songs were still in the disco era. Their career came to a screeching halt. You dont remember the interview with them in the early and mid 80s how frustrated they were? They ruled the charts. Now you are moving the goal post "never at risk of getting work." Oh I am sure they still got work and other artists used them behind the scenes but none of their music was charting and like most disco acts they sort of disappeared. Of course in the 1990s the 1970s came back and then they became a big touring act again like many 1970s acts.
You failed the exam Steve. The answer to the question was false. They did not have a great career post disco. The Bee Gee's albums were the first in the bonfire in the disco sucks movement. Being relevant is not the same as having a great career or anywhere close to what they had in the 1970s. Not sure why this is disputed. But I hope you have a good Friday and great weekend
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I loved Island In The Stream when I heard it. I didn't know the BG wrote it. They don't sing in the chorus, do they? I was surprised to learn later that it was their song.

For several years, I didn't hear anything from them, except for one or two singles, nothing relevant in Peru. The antibodies were still present on the radio.

But when I saw the One Night Only concert video, it was extraordinary. I thought, oh that will always be a great band.
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False.

Their influence as songwriters continued for at least another five years or so.

And, after VH-1 started focusing on classics in the mid ‘90s, their ‘60s stuff -especially “To Love Somebody”- started being revisited. Before they started dying off, they were a massive concert act.

Their trajectory -factoring in Andy Gibb- wasn’t dissimilar to Fleetwood Mac’s. Some ‘60s success, absolutely dominant late ‘70s success, still relevant into the ‘80s (as successful songwriters for other artists, including their brother), and then an incredibly in-demand oldies act towards the end.

They were never at risk of not getting work.
Don't forget Sgt. Peppers, which was a great film! Peter Frampton was in it, too.
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Don't forget Sgt. Peppers, which was a great film! .
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hummm... errr.......

I was young and we watched it like 5 times in the theater!
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I was young and we watched it like 5 times in the theater!
Well who am I to judge you. This one was a fave of mine when I was 14, first time I could see Linda Blair in the silver screen.

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