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Old 10-30-2011, 01:52 PM
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I hate downloading music. I don't want to lose CDs just to "move with the times". Why do I have to constantly be forced into this cold and decadent "techno future" when I don't want to be? This is bull****...... I'm in a bad mood now...

Edit: I really couldn't give a tut about magazines, though. I haven't read a magazine in years and I don't plan to.
I totally agree--I still have all of my cds too. We maybe a techno dependent world but things happen & no system is perfect. I also 'love' my cds & I will also purchase them til I can't anymore. Personally, there making a mistake to me. They should at least do LTD Edition versions for those of us that DON'T want to DL stuff. I hate this totally. I still read magazines & books the old fashioned way. I like to 'hold' something in my hands still. I'm on the computer all day at work & I don't want to look at a computer screen again when I get home either. Its a sad sad day. At least to me.
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Old 10-30-2011, 01:57 PM
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You leave my beer out of this argument!


May I add the bonus of - my vehicle has been broken into twice.
100 $15 CDs= $1500
100 20 cent CDs = $20

^^^I challenge anyone to argue with that point...
Your beer? I'm confused! Please bear in mind that it's sometimes easy to confuse me...

Fair point about having less $ in the car if broken into though.

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Give me a DVD any day over a VHS. I have the same aversion to eBooks. A huge part of the experience of reading is the book itself (this is why I don't buy paperbacks if I don't have to). The binding of the book, the type of paper used, the dust jacket, and even smell of books... I love it all! You just lose so much of the experience if you take all of that away.
Louie you're so right. DVDs are far better. The only time I prefer vhs is when I'm teaching (which I haven't for a while) because you can have them all cued up and ready to go to show any clip mid lecture. It's tougher to do that with a dvd because you have to ether sit through all the warnings etc mid-class or, if you have it paused at the start, it my have un-paused by the time you get to the clip - bah!

Good call on e-books too. I have refused to get a kindle because I like to read books! I likely will get one for travelling though, I should have recently. That's what I think about these things. Great for tralling but that's it. It's a shame they've fully replaced, or are beginning to replace, the tangible product.

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Because I have a soft case, that holds 100, in one NEAT small "bible".
Oh I can't stand having cd boxes in the car. They clutter the car/glove box up, they get broken, cracked, scratched.. no! Much better to put them in a wallet for the car. On my recent trip we had a very tidy wallet that held all our driving cds. Said cds were also sequentially numbered but there were no tracklists... just one massive mix. See - we lived dangerously!
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Old 10-30-2011, 03:23 PM
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Your beer? I'm confused! Please bear in mind that it's sometimes easy to confuse me...

Oh I can't stand having cd boxes in the car. They clutter the car/glove box up, they get broken, cracked, scratched.. no! Much better to put them in a wallet for the car. On my recent trip we had a very tidy wallet that held all our driving cds. Said cds were also sequentially numbered but there were no tracklists... just one massive mix. See - we lived dangerously!
You said if I was careless....I was tying that to beer!


Another point of burning your own....since older albums were only 40 minutes long, I can often fit two, on one CD. Bare Trees and Future Games fits on one!
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I buy CD'S but i DO download too.......i'm not that crushed. Times will change and continue to do so. I, For 1 plan to move with them.

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You said if I was careless....I was tying that to beer!


Another point of burning your own....since older albums were only 40 minutes long, I can often fit two, on one CD. Bare Trees and Future Games fits on one!
Beer does have a direct relationship to carelessness, fair enough!

Whenever I copy cds for friends I do like it when I can fit two on one - efficiency! I also love making mix cd's. Basically, High Fidelity was written about me.
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Beer does have a direct relationship to carelessness, fair enough!

Whenever I copy cds for friends I do like it when I can fit two on one - efficiency! I also love making mix cd's. Basically, High Fidelity was written about me.
Unless I'm in an urgent rush, I always fill every CD to capacity. That's where B sides, and live versions go!
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:34 PM
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Unless I'm in an urgent rush, I always fill every CD to capacity. That's where B sides, and live versions go!
Of course! They're 80 minutes long so why wouldn't you?? I never understand that.
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I was so terribly happy when cassettes gave way to CDs. I have LOVED the way personal computers have advanced since the 1980s. Today's modern cars are technological wonders. Give me a DVD any day over a VHS. And today's cheap audio systems sound worlds better than the high end audio systems of 2 decades ago. I have absolutely no aversion to the advancements of electronics. I just don't like buying an invisible product.
Well said Louie. This is exactly how I feel.
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I read magazines all the time and will miss them immensely. What do you expect an old man to do when he's in the waiting room getting his car fixed?
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:59 AM
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Basically, High Fidelity was written about me.
Huh, uh. It's about ME!
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I buy CD'S but i DO download too.......i'm not that crushed. Times will change and continue to do so. I, For 1 plan to move with them.

Mick
^^Pretty much this. My purchases right now are about 50/50 download/CD. I've been downloading since 2005 and never lost a single song to computer issues.

It is true that iTunes will not replace your files if they are lost - so it's important that you be careful. This should not come as any big surprise, though - no music retailer on Earth is going to replace your records or CDs if you should be careless with them.

Get an external hard drive. Back-up your purchased files. One interesting advancement is Cloud. Amazon offers this for instance - if you purchase music downloads you have the choice of either downloading them or putting them in your Cloud, where you can access them from anywhere on any wireless device.

I do very much enjoy the CD format - but the only gripe I have about the loss of this format is that downloads are just not a complete product in thier currrent incarnation. 256kbps as opposed to 1411kbps is a substantial loss of fidelity whether you can hear it or not. It's safe to assume that advancements in technology will allow for greater quality with smaller files sizes in the future, and many albums are already mastered with MP3 technology in mind so the file compression is almost meaningless in terms of sound impact.

Ultimately I can live with this. Just knowing how many millions of tons of plastic (and thus oil and energy) will be spared is alone enough reason to abandon the CD format. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already considering the astronomical amount of plastic waste the CD format has generated over the past three decades.

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I hate downloading music. I don't want to lose CDs just to "move with the times". Why do I have to constantly be forced into this cold and decadent "techno future" when I don't want to be? This is bull****...... I'm in a bad mood now...
No offense, but while I agree that technology is cold, it is actually the exact opposite of decadent.
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Huh, uh. It's about ME!
Does Bruce Springsteen make regular cameos in your life too then? It's always fun when he makes an appearance...

Sadly, as much as I love John Cusack, the film is nowhere near as good as the book. That's so often the case though.
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Does Bruce Springsteen make regular cameos in your life too then? It's always fun when he makes an appearance...

Sadly, as much as I love John Cusack, the film is nowhere near as good as the book. That's so often the case though.
Well, while John Cusack's character is more my style, the "personality" pretty much was covered by Jack Black's character. I swear the movie just a remake of my "typical" days back when I worked in record stores...from '73-80.
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What about old people who have no idea how to DL music? Like my mom. Poor mom - she won't be able to buy the 57th version of Elvis' Greatest Hits. Seriously, though.

I still buy CDs - most of the time it's cheaper to buy a CD the first week it comes out than to buy online song-by-song for 99 cents each.
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What about old people who have no idea how to DL music? Like my mom. Poor mom - she won't be able to buy the 57th version of Elvis' Greatest Hits. Seriously, though.
Yeah, my mom's not too happy about this either. She doesn't understand computers and the internet.
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