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Originally Posted by skcin
How dare you assume that, you racist. 
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oh great, now the cronies are really rolling in.
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Seriously. It's gotten to the point that people are fearful of mentioning anything about someone's apprearance to describe them. I could understand of someone said "hey, there was this n*gger at the show I was at!" or "see the guy over there, the gook?" Obviously racially insensitive & rude. If someone said "wtf is that spic doing at a Mac show?" Yeah, that's ****ty. I remember getting into an argument with Amber years ago because she said she saw a "chocolate fan" at a show. I thought it was offensive at the time, and she felt there was nothing wrong with saying that since her friend (who is black) had said the same thing, in those words.
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thanks, now i want chocolate.
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But to simply mention someone's color/appearance & comment that you wouldn't have expected to see them at a show? What's wrong with that? We have 4 nurses @ work, 3 are white & 1 is black. our students often speak very limited English. When we ask them who they were treated by & they can't recall the nurse's name, we sometimes have to start with "is she white or black?" and move on from there to height, glasses or no glasses, hair color, etc. I have yet to find someone who is offended by this - nurses OR patients. 
Specifically to the Mac show & the Philly thread, would we be discussing this at all had Hejira said "there was this really young teenager at the show, I thought that was really cool." I think not. Even though he's assuming that a young teen wouldn't normally be a fan & he's assuming things about his/her culture & upbringing that he is basing soley on age/appearance? Thoughts?
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yeah, i don't think people would be as up in arms. race and sex seem push people's buttons more than others. to ignore race entirely is illogical. right now i am reading fannie flagg's
fried green tomatoes - big parts of the story would be nonsensical and pointless without racial descriptors. and the same goes for sex. i know a person who wants to remove first names and gender-specific pronouns from the history books because history is "biased" against women and she thinks that girls get discouraged reading about dead white guys running the world.
on. what. planet?