**New Single** - Secret Love

[tommer]

i'm VERY pleased with it, it's easily her best first single since Rooms On Fire. i really don't care if it sells, or what's the cover gonna look like, i care for nothing, i'm just overjoyed to listen to a new stevie original. in the past few years i honestly didn't believe there will ever be another stevie studio album, so to me, beyond loving it, there's a true i-can't-believe-this-is-really-happening factor.
since the weekend already kicked in here and i don't work tomorrow, i think i'm gonna spend most of the night listening to it again and again. happy days.

[GODDESS6]

I'm really not trying to be a douche here- but I thought posting commercially available stuff here was illegal- unless that link is for a demo, I don't think it should be here.

could have fooled me:shrug:~

[SuiteShangriLa]

I don't feel guilty downloading the single on here,

I'll probably buy about ten copies of the album :D

same here...its been 10 f**king years!! and as much money ive put in Ms Nicks pockets over the last 25 years...like you said, ill be out buying multiple copies come May 3rd. i have no guilt.

[Jondalar]

The reciept no longer says processing for Secret Love. It just says pre-order. I'm pissed.

[Amlyn]

The reciept no longer says processing for Secret Love. It just says pre-order. I'm pissed.

Ok, now that i've finally figured out what I was missing earlier, mine now says pre-order as well. I'm taking that as a good sign that WB caught the mistake and we'll get the download soon. Cause the album still says In Process.

Actually, someone who did receive the download right away, what does your receipt say?

[SuiteShangriLa]

The reciept no longer says processing for Secret Love. It just says pre-order. I'm pissed.

oh im so glad i waited to pre order. and now i have the song. whats 'cheaper than free':laugh:

[Dodfather]

For those who didn't get to listen to the full song yet, see if that works for you:

http://media.bthree.com.s3.amazonaws.com/secure/WMG/WBR/s/Stevie_Nicks/Stevie_Nicks_Secret_Love_01_Secret_Love_320.mp3?AWSAccessKeyId=0YG54AVN0AAW7J7MMQG2&Expires=1294956784&Signature=NTAjLWfmEEJGW3gdWYaPrOBrKHA%3d


NOOOOO!!! Please, please,someone HELP! The link doesn;t work for me. I get a heap of garbled text/symbols and some red text and it says access denied at the bottom./ Is this becxause I'm in the UK? This isn't fair! lol. Can someone please pm me with the track, or I will provide my e-mail address so you can send me the file? Please?? I hathat everyone else seems able to hear it ut I can;t.

[AnthonyMI]

Wow that was fast. Stevie was totally right. IT has been available 3 hours and its already available for illegal download. Sigh.

[DefDumbandBlond]

I love her delivery on the word "salvation", I don't really know why but it's awesome!

Me too, that little bit is my favorite line out of the whole song, where her voice 'drops' at that one point a little bit.

[deribish]

i guess all the flack about the preorder download not working posted on the facebook page was NOT good advertisement. everything has been removed from her NEW facebook page. SO odd.

[gypsy4life]

Just pre-ordered and got the single. Love the new Secret Love!!

[Dodfather]

Wow that was fast. Stevie was totally right. IT has been available 3 hours and its already available for illegal download. Sigh.

What you're not considering is that it is being shared on here. This is a group of people who are very, very likely to go and buy the song anyway. It's not like it's on youtube in its entirety or anything.

[StreetAngel86]

OMG I FKN LOVE ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

*plays again and again*

:blob1:

i love love love the demo
and normally i'm a little disappointed by "finalized" versions ... *cough* Sorcerer *cough*

but this is GORGEOUS

[SuiteShangriLa]

should have been sent to itunes first before they did the pre order. but it would still have leaked. im just chilled over the buzz of this release!

[Dodfather]

OMG I FKN LOVE ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

*plays again and again*

:blob1:

i love love love the demo
and normally i'm a little disappointed by "finalized" versions ... *cough* Sorcerer *cough*


but this is GORGEOUS

AAAAGHHHH!!! Why can't I HEAR IT?! What is going on????

[camchristo]

Really? The charge for me is still 12.99.


....and the thumbnail must be the single cover. It pops up on the order page. :cool:

I was charged $13.99 and still have not received a link for the download. If I go to the preorder page now, it shows a charge of $12.99 and a not that the free download is being added to your cart.

I emailed WB to see what they are going to do about it.

[StreetAngel86]

What you're not considering is that it is being shared on here. This is a group of people who are very, very likely to go and buy the song anyway. It's not like it's on youtube in its entirety or anything.

i agree.
people here are most likely going to go and buy MULTIPLE copies of this new album.
Some people order preordered and couldnt get workable links
i think if it's just shared amongst REAL fans. fine.
if someone goes and posts this ***** on tumblr or another public site
that is something else

[AnthonyMI]

What you're not considering is that it is being shared on here. This is a group of people who are very, very likely to go and buy the song anyway. It's not like it's on youtube in its entirety or anything.


give it another 45 minutes,,,,

[paleshadow]

What you're not considering is that it is being shared on here. This is a group of people who are very, very likely to go and buy the song anyway. It's not like it's on youtube in its entirety or anything.

I'm sure everyone here will buy the album, but the more people who have access to it, the more likely it is that along the line someone who has no intention of buying it will have access to it. Truth is, the guidelines for the board don't say it's OK to post commercial stuff as long as you are planning on buying the album.

[SuiteShangriLa]

It's not like it's on youtube in its entirety or anything.

umm..yes it is

[Hawkeye]

Freaking Amazing!!!!!!! And I haven't been impressed with one single thing thats been leaked so far, especially Everybody Loves You. But this is everything we were promissed. David Wild hit the nail on the the head with "atmosphere" This songs got it.

When Stevie and the girls get together at about 38 seconds for Teeaaars, it sounds like I'm listening to Tom Petty's "In the heat of the sun" from into the great wide open. And the vocal, I can't see how some could call her delivery bad. These are amazing vocals. He voice actually goes up and down.

One thing I was worried about with this album was that Dave would be featured heavily vocally instead of Lori and Sharon, especially after ELY which was very heavy on Daves voice, so that was exciting to not hear Dave at all on Secret Love. No offense to him, from this song I think he's a great producer, I just didn't want his voice all over the album.

Lastly and most importantly, There is NO similarities between this and Everyday. Even when I just heard the short clip and was less impressed it sill didn't make me think Everyday. Everyday was so bland and generic and had a monatonal delivery. This has layers and again atmosphere and is way more upbeat. AND she wrote breaking the streak of every lead single being not written by Stevie since 1985 (not counting ROF)

[xhector]

I'm in the "not impressed" club.

Some of the things I like, some I don't.
Stevie & the girls sound awesome, but IMO some of the production choices..

For example I don't understand why it was chosen to mantain the bass in the same note through all the song, even at the chorus where the hamony changes (that chorus could have been made more beautiful IMO). That makes the song a bit plain to my ears.

I also think I hear an auto-tune/melodyne effect at 1:31.. I don't understand why, no need to do that to Stevie's voice.

In fact I like the intention, the concept of the production (classic stevie sound a bit more modern/interesting), sounds very good (Chris Lord Alge is the best), but some of the choices dont take the song into a classic to me as I always expect from Stevie.

I'm very interested in listening to the whole album though. I have faith that I will like most of the songs and it will be a good follow-up to TISL...

[Dodfather]

Re. Secret Love eing on youtue.

S**t. Ok, I stand corrected. I was replying to those who questioned us sharing it here on The Ledge. I am/was sure that nobody here would do this. I thought that sharing it between fans on here would keep it just between us. However, since there are of course non-Ledgies who will have pre-ordered and got the single... out it goes.

The only for this not to happen would have been for WB not to do the pre-order. Oh well. It sucks but, sadly, was inevitable.

[wheart]

I"m still at work so I"ve only listened to the snippet twice but it's already stuck in head. It's got some potential...And the photo is fantastic!

[BTFLCHLD]

It sucks but, sadly, was inevitable.
well one would prettymuch have to be an ignoramous to think that releasing a FREE single with preorder would not lead to an underground distribution of sorts. trust, WBR knows this.

[Richard B]

well one would prettymuch have to be an ignoramous to think that releasing a FREE single with preorder would not lead to an underground distribution of sorts. trust, WBR knows this.

I agree. They want it to spread. Stevie may not understand this, but WB marketing does. Let that single burn thru the net.

[paleshadow]

Re. Secret Love eing on youtue.

S**t. Ok, I stand corrected. I was replying to those who questioned us sharing it here on The Ledge. I am/was sure that nobody here would do this. I thought that sharing it between fans on here would keep it just between us. However, since there are of course non-Ledgies who will have pre-ordered and got the single... out it goes.

The only for this not to happen would have been for WB not to do the pre-order. Oh well. It sucks but, sadly, was inevitable.

You're assuming it wasn't a ledgie.

[Travis]

I've sent 3 emails

Two to :[email protected]
and one to: [email protected]

and I have not heard back nor do I have my download link .. I'm gettin' pissed

[paleshadow]

I've sent 3 emails

Two to :[email protected]
and one to: [email protected]

and I have not heard back nor do I have my download link .. I'm gettin' pissed

Can you cancel your order and just DL it since it's been posted here?

[Travis]

Can you cancel your order and just DL it since it's been posted here?

I just called them at the phone # provided - the guy said it should be coming shortly now so, we'll see.

Thanks!

[Jondalar]

Can you cancel your order and just DL it since it's been posted here?

I don't know, but I'm really pissed off. I can't believe I still haven't gotten the single and I was one of the first ones to order. That's bull****. It was supposed to be instant. I want another single to make up for my pain and suffering.

[Ledge Moderators]

Please don't repost any links to Stevie's new song or any song that's commercially available.

[Travis]

I don't know, but I'm really pissed off. I can't believe I still haven't gotten the single and I was one of the first ones to order. That's bull****. It was supposed to be instant. I want another single to make up for my pain and suffering.

I paid via pay pal and this is the phone # that is provided:

Merchant
Warner Bros/Nonesuch
[email protected]
866-759-4843

Maybe call them and do what I did

[jkmaletic]

I don't feel guilty downloading the single on here,

I'll probably buy about ten copies of the album :D

Ditto. And I LOVE IT! the WB link isn't working properly anyway! What do they expect us to do?? :)

[Jondalar]

I paid via pay pal and this is the phone # that is provided:

Merchant
Warner Bros/Nonesuch
[email protected]
866-759-4843

Maybe call them and do what I did

I have already called that number earlier today, and complained. I still haven't gotten it.

[sodascouts]

Nothing here either - and it no longer says "in process" (as someone else noted). Not promising.

[AliceLover]

Wow! :blob2:

I really don't care if Secret Love flops. What matters to me is that I like it. After 7 years of disappointment, I am a very happy ledgie right now!

Secret Love is great!

P.S. The "oooo we" is my favorite part.

[Jondalar]

So a bunch of us still don't have the single, how will they make up for it. That is false advertising.

[Richard B]

Just pre-ordered and got my download immediately.
I think the song is cool.

[BTFLCHLD]

OK when I ordered a linkinpark haiti FREE music with donation bit, the same thing happened - they took my donation and I didnt receive the instant download! Not long after, I received email with an apology for the hiccup and recd the link to download.

patience is needed, those that havent recd the link will at some point. give them a chance to fix the SNAFU for those that ordered soooo quickly when the page went live. :shrug:

good to see you here richardb.

[ryguy2010]

So a bunch of us still don't have the single, how will they make up for it. That is false advertising.

Yeah well i just called them and they told me that the dept that handles the u/l d/l direct link is already closed. She also told me that i could expect to receive it via email within 48 hours.

[StreetAngel86]

Just an observation ... there is not ONE "well" in Secret Love ... :thumbsup:

no wonder it's so awesome :lol:

[Jondalar]

OK when I ordered a linkinpark haiti FREE music with donation bit, the same thing happened - they took my donation and I didnt receive the instant download! Not long after, I received email with an apology for the hiccup and recd the link to download.

patience is needed, those that havent recd the link will at some point. give them a chance to fix the SNAFU for those that ordered soooo quickly when the page went live. :shrug:

good to see you here richardb.

I don't care. Patience? I only pre-ordered the album to get the single instantly, not to play the waiting game. Since when do large corporation or companies have patience with the little guy? They screwed up royally. I ordered quickly because it was there to order. I don't think it's my fault because I ordered too quickly.

[Travis]

..................

[Christopher]

Just an observation ... there is not ONE "well" in Secret Love ... :thumbsup:

no wonder it's so awesome :lol:
:laugh: :laugh::laugh: So true....

[MacMan]

Yeah well i just called them and they told me that the dept that handles the u/l d/l direct link is already closed. She also told me that i could expect to receive it via email within 48 hours.

Haven't received my download link yet either... and paid by paypal and like Jondalar was probably one of the early ones... But now that I've heard it thanks to some idiot on youtube who posted it, I can be patient... Awesome awesome song! Really happy with it... Stevie sounds great!

[tilthefirefades]

Haven't received my download link yet either... and paid by paypal and like Jondalar was probably one of the early ones... But now that I've heard it thanks to some idiot on youtube who posted it, I can be patient... Awesome awesome song! Really happy with it... Stevie sounds great!

Hi :wavey:

I am that idiot. I posted it because a friend of mine sent it to me due to the fact that I haven't received my download yet either.

[Jondalar]

Haven't received my download link yet either... and paid by paypal and like Jondalar was probably one of the early ones... But now that I've heard it thanks to some idiot on youtube who posted it, I can be patient... Awesome awesome song! Really happy with it... Stevie sounds great!

They might want to leak this song. That just occurred to me. I still don't have the download, but I've been listening to it. It's a unique song, fresh arrangement. I really, really like this.

[gypsyj]

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[Jondalar]

Hi :wavey:

I am that idiot. I posted it because a friend of mine sent it to me due to the fact that I haven't received my download yet either.

That's what those idiots get. This song is going to help sell the album, not hurt. That hasn't happened in years.

[SuiteShangriLa]

omigod...everyone wants to bitch that this isnt a good single, bad choice for a lead single...whatever. Its an awesome Stevie Nicks song...and i love it! Last thing i wanna hear is Stevie trying to write/sing a song that isnt from the heart...trying to make top 40. am i the only one who wants Stevie to do what Stevie wants to do. I dont want Stevie to be a mega super star...if anything, i want Stevie to do what she wants to do and give her core fans some genuine music. i dont care if shes selling out arenas...id rather see her playing small venues for the people who truly love her.

[BigAl84]

I called and cancelled my order, then re-ordered and the link came up immediately! It's actually on the reciept after you order!

[ryguy2010]

BS. Stevie has always had a very rock edge. From Gold Dust Woman to Sisters Of The Moon to Straight Back, Edge of 17, I Can't Wait, The Nightmare, No Spoken Word, Freedom, Love Is Like A River, Fall From Grace, Running Through The Garden... these are all very much rock songs. There is an undercurrent of rock in most all her songs. I just don't get record companies trying to project her as a soft rock/adult contemporary artist via her singles... because that's not what she really is. :wavey:



Go Louie ;) She will always be the "reigning queen of rock!" Oh and Everybody Finds Out which is my new fave as of this week has that edge to it. On the other hand i am glad that she isn't type cast and that she is so talented that she can be heavy rock/pop/ac/country/folk/blues/r&b. Understand that some people may not be happy w/ that b/c we all have our own taste preferences but as an artist that is an amazing chameleon quality to have!

[Richard B]

I called and cancelled my order, then re-ordered and the link came up immediately! It's actually on the reciept after you order!

Yup, that's the way to do it. WB doesn't even charge your card until product ships, so this download song is indeed free.

[Richard B]

good to see you here richardb.

Thank you and hi!

[SuiteShangriLa]

my husband made this for me when he got home from work today and i bombarded him with the new Stevie news! he loves the new song...i was surprised, he usually only likes the upbeat rock/dance songs.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c170/SuiteShangriLa/Stevie%20Nicks%20Wild%20Heart%20Tourbook/165195_492300514142_767794142_6065043_2169853_n.jpg

[badanimals87]

I just called and they said to give it 24 hours. The guy said Warner Bros posted the preorder too soon and they were not ready for it. :shrug: He also said we all should have only been charged $12.99 (I was charged $13.99) and they were working on correcting that as well.

Tim

[louielouie2000]

Ok, I'll admit it. I was very, very wrong about this song. The snippet did it NO justice. This is precisely how new Stevie songs should sound. I'm SO proud of Stevie and Dave... they've done this long-time Stevie fan very proud. :nod: The apprehension and fear of this album's sound is melting for me... I'm so excited about hearing the entire thing now. :thumbsup:

[Musicman408]

Ok, I'll admit it. I was very, very wrong about this song. The snippet did it NO justice. This is precisely how new Stevie songs should sound. I'm SO proud of Stevie and Dave... they've done this long-time Stevie fan very proud. :nod: The apprehension and fear of this album's sound is melting for me... I'm so excited about hearing the entire thing now. :thumbsup:

I'm very happy to hear that you've been made happy!!! Was starting to worry about you! ;)

[Jondalar]

I just called and they said to give it 24 hours. The guy said Warner Bros posted the preorder too soon and they were not ready for it. :shrug: He also said we all should have only been charged $12.99 (I was charged $13.99) and they were working on correcting that as well.

Tim

Ok, well I just cancelled my order and reordered it and got the single immediately. Of course, I ordered rush delivery, which is $8, but after the single I decided it was worth it.

[gypsy4life]

Ok, I'll admit it. I was very, very wrong about this song. The snippet did it NO justice. This is precisely how new Stevie songs should sound. I'm SO proud of Stevie and Dave... they've done this long-time Stevie fan very proud. :nod: The apprehension and fear of this album's sound is melting for me... I'm so excited about hearing the entire thing now. :thumbsup:


Agreed! They have made this song even more awesome than the early demo..SO proud!!

[Sahara]

I agree. They want it to spread. Stevie may not understand this, but WB marketing does. Let that single burn thru the net.

You're probably right!

my husband made this for me when he got home from work today and i bombarded him with the new Stevie news! he loves the new song...i was surprised, he usually only likes the upbeat rock/dance songs.

Absolutely beautiful graphic -- I wish my family were as enthusiastic!!! :p

Ok, I'll admit it. I was very, very wrong about this song. The snippet did it NO justice. This is precisely how new Stevie songs should sound. I'm SO proud of Stevie and Dave... they've done this long-time Stevie fan very proud. :nod: The apprehension and fear of this album's sound is melting for me... I'm so excited about hearing the entire thing now. :thumbsup:

Okay, now I'm properly excited :blob1: :lol:

[ryguy2010]

YEAH!!!!!!!! Glad all the apprehensiveness is dissipating from peoples minds :). For some reason i have had a permanent smile on ever since i have heard "Secret Love" all the way through.

[SuiteShangriLa]

Ok, I'll admit it. I was very, very wrong about this song. The snippet did it NO justice. This is precisely how new Stevie songs should sound. I'm SO proud of Stevie and Dave... they've done this long-time Stevie fan very proud. :nod: The apprehension and fear of this album's sound is melting for me... I'm so excited about hearing the entire thing now. :thumbsup:

i was waiting on that...makes me happy :woohoo:

[Sahara]

YEAH!!!!!!!! Glad all the apprehensiveness is dissipating from peoples minds :). For some reason i have had a permanent smile on ever since i have heard "Secret Love" all the way through.
It's running around my head non-stop all evening, and I've only listened to it about four times. So catchy!

Every time I put it on I get goosebumps at the start. This sounds SO contemporary, in the best way possible -- it's incredibly fresh and engaging. Gaaahhhh!

[ontheEdgeof17]

Does it remind anyone of 'My Heart'? To me, it sounds like they both could be on the same album.

[KarmaContestant]

Just giving the YouTube version a listen....sounds great! Kind of an odd choice for a lead single, but it's also possible that the market is just being tested, and that an alternate choice might come forth.

Stevie's vocals are great! Truly!

[Sahara]

Does it remind anyone of 'My Heart'? To me, it sounds like they both could be on the same album.
Yes, I definitely see where you're coming from. A similar arrangement could work really nicely for My Heart :)

[Troddew]

Ok, I'll admit it. I was very, very wrong about this song. The snippet did it NO justice. This is precisely how new Stevie songs should sound. I'm SO proud of Stevie and Dave... they've done this long-time Stevie fan very proud. :nod: The apprehension and fear of this album's sound is melting for me... I'm so excited about hearing the entire thing now. :thumbsup:

OMG Louie, I read this and fell off the chair :)

[SuiteShangriLa]

Does it remind anyone of 'My Heart'? To me, it sounds like they both could be on the same album.

the first 5-6 seconds ...it does. but after that its all its own

[markolas]

Yeah, it's definitely more pop/rock than that snippet suggests. Love what they did with the demo, which had potential but was so-so, IMO. A lot of the songs on TISL sound kinda "muddy" compared to this.

[sorcerer999]

Ok, I'll admit it. I was very, very wrong about this song. The snippet did it NO justice. This is precisely how new Stevie songs should sound. I'm SO proud of Stevie and Dave... they've done this long-time Stevie fan very proud. :nod: The apprehension and fear of this album's sound is melting for me... I'm so excited about hearing the entire thing now. :thumbsup:

I couldn't have said it better myself!

[Sahara]

Just an observation ... there is not ONE "well" in Secret Love ... :thumbsup:


That struck me too! I think I found one, though: "Well we already passed it, I cried"

She never lets us down :p

[SuiteShangriLa]

Just giving the YouTube version a listen....sounds great! Kind of an odd choice for a lead single, but it's also possible that the market is just being tested, and that an alternate choice might come forth.

Stevie's vocals are great! Truly!

really??? maybe Stevie wants us to hear this and doesnt give a **** sbout the ****ing market...ugh

[ryguy2010]

It's running around my head non-stop all evening, and I've only listened to it about four times. So catchy!


Can definitely relate to what you say about it being catchy!!! is it just me or in a weird way does this sound like the most liberating Stevie has ever sounded while still having a newer and more controlled vocal?

[sodascouts]

A similar arrangement could work really nicely for My Heart :)

Only if she changes the asinine "windows, like the eyes to the soul" lyric.

But back to the positive - I know the cold ending seems abrupt, but I like it. I think it's dramatic.

[Dodfather]

Ok, I'll admit it. I was very, very wrong about this song. The snippet did it NO justice. This is precisely how new Stevie songs should sound. I'm SO proud of Stevie and Dave... they've done this long-time Stevie fan very proud. :nod: The apprehension and fear of this album's sound is melting for me... I'm so excited about hearing the entire thing now. :thumbsup:

Having just (finally!) heard it myself I couldn't have said it better. I'm so impressed!

[Sahara]

I'm in love with so many bits and pieces of this song ... especially the double "secretly, secretly died" at the end ... it just rounds it off so perfectly.
Does she sing "my secret loves" (plural) at the very end, actually?
Also, the breathiness on "paying the price" after the salvation verse -- not something we often hear from Stevie, but I love it to bits.

[KarmaContestant]

really??? maybe Stevie wants us to hear this and doesnt give a **** sbout the ****ing market...ugh

Feel better?

[Jondalar]

This song has a little of 10CC I'm not in love at the end, it also reminds me of Sentimental lady, but it is different and fresh sounding. A fresh sounding, upbeat song with a dramatic sad twist. Very unique. I really think this might do it for her.

[SuiteShangriLa]

OMG Louie, I read this and fell off the chair :)

Louie loves Stevie...he just likes raggin on her, like i do.

[SuiteShangriLa]

Feel better?

yeah...i do :)

[louielouie2000]

OMG Louie, I read this and fell off the chair :)

I couldn't have been more shocked myself when I heard the full song. I immediately teared up... it's been such an ugly, ugly decade... and we've had no new Stevie music to escape into. Honestly, this might just be the best single Stevie's released since Rooms On Fire (including the Mac). Even my other half totally digs the song... and Stevie doesn't do much for him. This is the reassurance I think we've all been waiting for for so long :). I can't believe what Dave did with what was a very lackluster demo. I can't wait to hear what everything else sounds like now since this is the safe radio friendly cut :D.

[CADreaming]

This song has a little of 10CC I'm not in love at the end, it also reminds me of Sentimental lady, but it is different and fresh sounding. A fresh sounding, upbeat song with a dramatic sad twist. Very unique. I really think this might do it for her.

After a few more listens, I do like the ending. It's haunting. Really cool.

It does also remind me of 10cc but I also was reminded of LB's new "Stephanie" that I heard over the pa's at the Unleashed shows - the ending on it was also very abrupt. A trend, I guess. haha

[Jondalar]

I couldn't have been more shocked myself when I heard the full song. I immediately teared up... it's been such an ugly, ugly decade... and we've had no new Stevie music to escape into. Honestly, this might just be the best single Stevie's released since Rooms On Fire (including the Mac). Even my other half totally digs the song... and Stevie doesn't do much for him. This is the reassurance I think we've all been waiting for for so long :). I can't believe what Dave did with what was a very lackluster demo. I can't wait to hear what everything else sounds like now since this is the safe radio friendly cut :D.

I think the song is better than Rooms on Fire

[Sahara]

I couldn't have been more shocked myself when I heard the full song. I immediately teared up... it's been such an ugly, ugly decade... and we've had no new Stevie music to escape into. Honestly, this might just be the best single Stevie's released since Rooms On Fire (including the Mac). Even my other half totally digs the song... and Stevie doesn't do much for him. This is the reassurance I think we've all been waiting for for so long :). I can't believe what Dave did with what was a very lackluster demo. I can't wait to hear what everything else sounds like now since this is the safe radio friendly cut :D.
All of this. :xoxo:

[CADreaming]

I couldn't have been more shocked myself when I heard the full song. I immediately teared up... it's been such an ugly, ugly decade... and we've had no new Stevie music to escape into. Honestly, this might just be the best single Stevie's released since Rooms On Fire (including the Mac). Even my other half totally digs the song... and Stevie doesn't do much for him. This is the reassurance I think we've all been waiting for for so long :). I can't believe what Dave did with what was a very lackluster demo. I can't wait to hear what everything else sounds like now since this is the safe radio friendly cut :D.

That was beautiful, Louie!

[MacMan]

Only if she changes the asinine "windows, like the eyes to the soul" lyric.

But back to the positive - I know the cold ending seems abrupt, but I like it. I think it's dramatic.

Yeah, being a short song to begin with it almost sounds like this might be an edit and could go on, similar to how Planets goes off into this frenzy near the end on the extended version.

[sodascouts]

And, as of two minutes ago, I have my "instant" 7 hour download from WB!

But it's all good. It's STEVIE!

[TrueFaith77]

If this were a duet with Lindsey, it would be GREAT.

[Nikolaj]

I have catching up to do with this thread- Can someone give cliff notes? IS the song available for full download now, or do you have to wait til February to get the download?
If it's only a short clip right now, I see no reason to pre-order a cd 4 months in advance of release, I think it's ridiculous. I may just do it anyway!
I can't believe I thought she'd sing anything other than freakin 'Stand Back' on Ellen. She must earn a ton of publishing by singing that song on tv every time-
It reminds me of a skit a comedy show did about Irene Cara when 'Fame' was a big hit single:

"Baby look at me, the girl who's on TV
Sings the same song ev-ery time
I'm sure by now you know every rhyme...
It's always The Same!
I'll sing this same song forever"

[Amlyn]

And, as of two minutes ago, I have my download from WB!

Me too! And they noted the cd should have been 12.99.

[gldstwmn]

Having heard it in full, I think it sounds great. She really should have done this song on the Ellen show.

[SuiteShangriLa]

If this were a duet with Lindsey, it would be GREAT.

umm no! **** Lindsey LOL

[Amlyn]

Yeah, being a short song to begin with it almost sounds like this might be an edit and could go on, similar to how Planets goes off into this frenzy near the end on the extended version.

I got a Planets vibe from listening to this. I think it was just the music like you said from the extended version that made me think that but at least I know that I wasn't imagining that.

[Christopher]

I think the song is better than Rooms on Fire

I sorta agree as far as radio singles go. Rooms on Fire is another one of Stevie's songs in A minor. It comes off a bit moody and slow buiding. This song leaps off the speakers in a happy friendly way like Talk To Me. TISL singles (POTU & Everyday) were good, but a bit muddy sounding, thats why I always thought they should have released Love Changes off TISL 1st.

[MacMan]

I talked to that WB Sarah... and she said she just got confirmation that the downloads that didn't go out should go out now...

Got mine:

Dear Stevie Nicks Fan,

Thank you for pre-ordering Stevie’s new CD, “ In Your Dreams” which is being released on May 3, 2011. As you know, your pre-order included a free download of Stevie’s first single, “Secret Love”. Unfortunately due to a mechanical glitch, the link for the free track was not included in your Order Confirmation email.

We are sending you the link for the new single now. Please accept our sincere apologies in the delay in receiving the track.

Click here to download "Secret Love".

The cost of “In Your Dreams” is $12.99. At the time you placed your order, the CD went into your cart at $13.99. Since you are not billed until your CD actually ships, we will credit you $1 once you have been billed.

Regards,
WBR Online Customer Service

[SuiteShangriLa]

Even my other half totally digs the song... and Stevie doesn't do much for him.

same here. my husband usually goes for the pop dance songs...I Cant Wait, Stand Back, If Anyone Falls....i played the Secret Love 30 sec clip and he said he really likes it. and he want the whole song, so i sent it to him , he listened to it on his way to school tonight :)...i played him the demo...he said "blah...she totally turned it out for the better" :blob2:

[BombaySapphire3]

- the ending on it was also very abrupt. A trend, I guess. haha

The ending we are hearing on the 3:16 version of the song is a cut off .It goes on for about another minute which is actually one of the best parts of the song.

[SuiteShangriLa]

I talked to that WB Sarah... and she said she just got confirmation that the downloads that didn't go out should go out now...

Got mine:

Dear Stevie Nicks Fan,

Thank you for pre-ordering Stevie’s new CD, “ In Your Dreams” which is being released on May 3, 2011. As you know, your pre-order included a free download of Stevie’s first single, “Secret Love”. Unfortunately due to a mechanical glitch, the link for the free track was not included in your Order Confirmation email.

We are sending you the link for the new single now. Please accept our sincere apologies in the delay in receiving the track.

Click here to download "Secret Love".

The cost of “In Your Dreams” is $12.99. At the time you placed your order, the CD went into your cart at $13.99. Since you are not billed until your CD actually ships, we will credit you $1 once you have been billed.

Regards,
WBR Online Customer Service

cool. atleast they are resonding/correcting the mistakes :thumbsup:

[SuiteShangriLa]

The ending we are hearing on the 3:16 version of the song is a cut off .It goes on for about another minute which is actually one of the best parts of the song.

i was just wondering about that...do you have the WB d/l version? is that where the difference is from?

[xhector]

My opinion of the song is improving. I still don't see it as a supersingle, but I think it's classy, and some of the things I didn't like at first seem more ok to my ears now.
Maybe I'm getting over the initial shock -the demo vs this version, and I can appreciate this one as a fresh new song.
The subtle arrangements (Dave's I suppose) are growing on me also.
This will be a very interesting album to listen.

[Tango]

I am getting some sort of Wilson-Phillips vibe from it--the song "Hold On" somehow. Partially the harmonizing, I think.

[skcin]

THis is hard to get used to after listening to the old piano demo for so many years. I will keep trying. The "ooooh-eeeee's" are bugging me.

[Christopher]

I am getting some sort of Wilson-Phillips vibe from it--the song "Hold On" somehow. Partially the harmonizing, I think.
Could be because Glen Ballard co-produced Stevie's new record. He produced and arranged Wilson Phillips records.

[Tango]

Could be because Glen Ballard co-produced Stevie's new record. He produced and arranged Wilson Phillips records.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Makes sense.

[louielouie2000]

Louie loves Stevie...he just likes raggin on her, like i do.

I adore Stevie. I just get so annoyed when she doesn't live up to her full potential.

I think the song is better than Rooms on Fire

I think you might just be right. :D And this is after I've listened to the full song quite a few times now... this isn't just an emotional first-listen response. The sound is so fresh yet textbooks Nicks, and Stevie's vocals are probably better than anything she's recorded since the '80s. I'm just so very proud of her and Dave :nod:.

[StreetAngel86]

It's running around my head non-stop all evening, and I've only listened to it about four times. So catchy!

ONLY 4x .... i'm up to about 10 :laugh: but it's already fully ingrained in my head. i dont need to play it anymore

Yeah, it's definitely more pop/rock than that snippet suggests. Love what they did with the demo, which had potential but was so-so, IMO. A lot of the songs on on TISL sound kinda "muddy" compared to .


WORD!

ETA: That struck me too! I think I found one, though: "Well we already passed it, I cried"

She never lets us down :p

LMAO *Well* that is a legit one ... as it is referencing direct speech LOL not an adlib lol


Only if she changes the asinine "windows, like the eyes to the soul" lyric.

But back to the positive - I know the cold ending seems abrupt, but I like it. I think it's dramatic.

i love the "cold" ending. great word. def abrupt
it perfectly fits a kinda dark song that it otherwise "upbeat" lol

[ontheEdgeof17]

THis is hard to get used to after listening to the old piano demo for so many years. I will keep trying. The "ooooh-eeeee's" are bugging me.

:D

miss you.



...and I need a dance mix STAT.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Well it's happened...The media-fire link to the whole song has been posted on twitter...This is where i got my copy...I have no guilt as I WILL gladly pay for my copy of the album when it is released...

[SNicksed]

Got the full version with the preorder. I think her vocals are amazing! I rank this song very high in her solo catalogue!! I am beyond thrilled!!! :D

[Musicman408]

You know, I guess these early leaks are just the techno world we live in, and releasing singles before the album comes out.

[Bandon]

I adore Stevie. I just get so annoyed when she doesn't live up to her full potential.



I think you might just be right. :D And this is after I've listened to the full song quite a few times now... this isn't just an emotional first-listen response. The sound is so fresh yet textbooks Nicks, and Stevie's vocals are probably better than anything she's recorded since the '80s. I'm just so very proud of her and Dave :nod:.

As a fellow Austinite, I totally agree...great vocals!!:thumbsup:

[SNicksed]

Having heard it in full, I think it sounds great. She really should have done this song on the Ellen show.

She should really do this song on the Grammys! ;) I hope it's a possibility.

[CADreaming]

The ending we are hearing on the 3:16 version of the song is a cut off .It goes on for about another minute which is actually one of the best parts of the song.

Color me stupid... is the WB d/l the complete song??

Thx

[DallasDude]

It didn't grab me when I first heard it, but the production certainly sounded very modern and crisp. After hearing it a few times, it did start to grow on me. Far superior to "Every Day," and better than "Say You Will" too.

If this first song is any indication, we all owe Dave Stewart a big round of applause. He seems to have really given her a "new voice."

[baboles]

Just listened to the song. I like it. I'm sure it will grow on me even more as time goes by. Love the the lyrics and Stevie sounds great. I love the part at 1:45-1:56 sec. It really gives the song some added atmosphere.

[UndoingTheLaces]

That little guitar riff someone commented on a while ago reminds me of Book of Miracles. Just a little.

Did you guys notice the piano line from the original demo is in there. Right around 2:15 when she sing "We're already paying the price", it's like a little nod to the original demo because for just a moment it's just her voice and that electric piano we're all so familiar with. I wonder if that just happened or it's actually a little nod to those of us who have been fans of the demo for so many years. I made a remix of The B-52's song Legal Tender and while I layered a new drum track over the whole thing I did a breakdown at one part and let the original drums play for a few seconds because to me they were such an iconic part of that song. That's what makes me think that about this moment in Secret Love.

I'm really just buzzing today. This is so awesome. I love this soooo much.

[BombaySapphire3]

Color me stupid... is the WB d/l the complete song??

Thx
All i know is that when I first downloaded and played the version that btflclhd posted it played all the way through at 4:20 .since then though it plays at 3:16 I don't have the WB version yet.

[ruffian]

she sounds, like . . . alive! gorgeously done.

[MacMan]

All i know is that when I first downloaded and played the version that btflclhd posted it played all the way through at 4:20 .since then though it plays at 3:16 I don't have the WB version yet.

But did the 4:20 version end like the WB version...Check the youtube version, that's the WB version

[UndoingTheLaces]

I also was reminded of LB's new "Stephanie" that I heard over the pa's at the Unleashed shows - the ending on it was also very abrupt. A trend, I guess. haha


What what what?????? What is this? Is it a new recording of the one from Buckingham Nicks??? :eek:

[Sahara]

If this were a duet with Lindsey, it would be GREAT.

Omigod *falls off the chair in a giggling wreck* That would be spectacular. That idea just makes me SO happy :]

:D
...and I need a dance mix STAT.

Yes please, I bet it would work extremely well!

she sounds, like . . . alive! gorgeously done.


That's the word :nod:

[BombaySapphire3]

But did the 4:20 version end like the WB version...Check the youtube version, that's the WB version

No there was a much longer fade with more guitars .The youtube version I heard sounds like it totally cuts off...very odd.

[GODDESS6]

yay, my link finally came!!!~

[StreetAngel86]

What what what?????? What is this? Is it a new recording of the one from Buckingham Nicks??? :eek:

it's AWESOME
it played over the speakers before the Unleashed shows
i thought it was a cover
but there was some discussion here that it's Bucky :D

maybe it was recorded specially JUST for the concerts
but wont be rereleased :distress:

[Djwidow]

heard the new song and thought it was a little short, sounds like they cut it down
for the release or something was missing...but over all I'm glad to finally hear something new from our girl!!!
I can't wait for the real track listing to appear...you'd think with the preorder
they might give a little something more...

[Sahara]

^^ God knows we'll probably get a track listing tomorrow :p This has been an insane 36 hours...

[baboles]

Ok. I'm officially hooked on this song! I've been replaying it for the last 20 minutes non-stop!

[Lee]

I went over to the site there & looked @ the preorder. Is this song something that will be able to be put on my iPod? I'm so used to just buying albums from iTunes that buying from anywhere else makes me leery.

Lee :confused:

[Amlyn]

^^ God knows we'll probably get a track listing tomorrow :p This has been an insane 36 hours...
I know!! Once this ride slows down it's going to a long wait till May.

[Artemis]

A tracklisting would be awesome... although, I think apart from 3/4 songs, there's a thread here that has most of them... well, the main gist of what they'll be.

I'm guessing Italian Summer will close the album, especially if it's a really slow gorgeous ballad. None of the other song titles or descriptions so far seem to scream album closer.

[Josh2003]

That little guitar riff someone commented on a while ago reminds me of Book of Miracles. Just a little.



YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT I AM HEARING!!!!!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[CADreaming]

What what what?????? What is this? Is it a new recording of the one from Buckingham Nicks??? :eek:

Maybe he recorded it for her 60th b'day. LOL!

But, yeah - it's awesome and my thought (and hope) is that there's a BN reason behind it...it's a beautiful instrumental.

[Tango]

I went over to the site there & looked @ the preorder. Is this song something that will be able to be put on my iPod? I'm so used to just buying albums from iTunes that buying from anywhere else makes me leery.

Lee :confused:

Yes! Buy with confidence.

[Djwidow]

yes you can save it to Itunes, I did and it sounds wonderful...
I really like it too...I wish it was a little longer maybe 4mins or so...
but it fades out like a demo or something...

[CADreaming]

Who has a longer version of this? I just downloaded the WB and it is the same length as the one posted earlier - 3:15.

Iwould love to hear the other version.... :shrug::shrug::shrug:

[BombaySapphire3]

I heard the full version olny once and I'm not sure how it even happened but the one we are all hearing now is clearly cut off ..the song picked up again with more guitars and an appropriate fade out..very nice too ..looks like WB still may have a glitch sending out a cut off song.

[Tango]

Remember the interview where Stevie was talking about how some of her friends were disappointed about some of her album released songs and preferred the demos? Well, Stevie girl, not on this one. I have played this over and over, and it's a home run.

[UndoingTheLaces]

YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT I AM HEARING!!!!!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Yay! You're welcome. I thought that when I first heard it. I'm glad I'm not the only one. LOL

[UndoingTheLaces]

it's AWESOME
it played over the speakers before the Unleashed shows
i thought it was a cover
but there was some discussion here that it's Bucky :D

maybe it was recorded specially JUST for the concerts
but wont be rereleased :distress:

Wow! I hadn't heard it. Stephanie is one of my favorite songs off of BN. I hope it surfaces somewhere. I'd love to hear that.

[StreetAngel86]

Maybe he recorded it for her 60th b'day. LOL!

But, yeah - it's awesome and my thought (and hope) is that there's a BN reason behind it...it's a beautiful instrumental.

present for her 60th
me = dead
yes, yes he did lol

:D:D:D

[CADreaming]

present for her 60th
me = dead
yes, yes he did lol

:D:D:D

:laugh::laugh: :wavey:

[Troddew]

ok, I have no speakers on my computer at work. So all day long ( I work till 9 PM EST) so I've had to wait for 9 hours to be able to hear this. I only had what you guys were saying on the board to go by.


SO WORTH THE WAIT! I think Dave really hit this song. Can't wait to hear the rest!:blob2:

[Hawkeye]

Whats so great about this song is the demo is really "ehh" and now is awseome. When you think about it, it's way more bang for us hard cores bucks for Stevie to improve and officially release her more bland demos then the ones that are already great in demo form. Why do we need her to put All the Beautiful Worlds, Baby Doll, If You Were My Love and Space Needle on an album, when they are basically already perfect to my ears. Would I complain if they end up an album, Hell No but do you get what I'm trying to say.

I now have hope that Anabel Lee will be listenable and maybe even good!!!

[StreetAngel86]

Whats so great about this song is the demo is really "ehh" and now is awseome. When you think about it, it's way more bang for us hard cores bucks for Stevie to improve and officially release her more bland demos then the ones that are already great in demo form. Why do we need her to put All the Beautiful Worlds, Baby Doll, If You Were My Love and Space Needle on an album, when they are basically already perfect to my ears. Would I complain if they end up an album, Hell No but do you get what I'm trying to say.

I now have hope that Anabel Lee will be listenable and maybe even good!!!

ITA with what you're saying
prob why i have such distaste for TISL ... sorry i don't like it
because all of those OLD OLD demos are beautiful they dont need SOMEONE tweaking it to death.

if someone touches ANY of those songs you mentioned, i'll KILL THEM :lol:
they're all my faves. add a little something exquisite & prettiest girl and BAM
that could be a whole new record.
she could RE record them and keep them basic for a new record, that will be fine
but re transforming them ... no no no

[ruffian]

I can't get over how great she sounds. She really sounds like she's selling the song in a very confident, sexy way. Like she has a smile on her face while she's singing. Maybe the innovations in telephone technology have helped; she's been phoning in her vocals since 1989.

[1934mission]

The sound, voice, and production are all great. I can't wait for the album .

[Jondalar]

Got the full version with the preorder. I think her vocals are amazing! I rank this song very high in her solo catalogue!! I am beyond thrilled!!! :D

Yeah, this is one of those songs that belongs on her greatest hits or best of. Besides the great production, it's got a lot of meaning, which just adds to it completely. It's kinda deep.

[DallasDude]

For some reason it reminds me of "Sara" and "If You Ever Did Believe" in that both had sort of a aching-heart feeling in the vocals with a lushness in the melody.

[mylittledemon]

I like it... "In the timeless search for a love that might work..." Great line. Can't wait to hear the rest.

[vivfox]

At first I was not pleased with my precious demo being destroyed. But after forcing myself to listen to this version for about 45 times, I now have to say that I like it. Sometimes these songs have to grow on me.
I have had the demo for 29 years. I will consider this new track just another version.In most cases I usually prefer the demo to the finished product.

[LittleCharmer]

Just gonna jump in and say I LOVE IT. I can't stop listening to it. Seriously, it's on loop.

BUT.. I wish I could hear the ending! :( Don't want to buy the album on pre-order because I'm in a ridiculous amount of debt and will only be able to buy it once - I want to go out and physically buy my copy.

But I think I might be able to live with this rip for a while ;)

[Meowi]

Is it me, or does she sound FRIGGIN AMAZING.
She sounds better than she did on TISL...

I just feel like crying.

[sorcerer999]

I keep listening to it over and over as well! I just love the changed lyrics on the second verse. "Come on, it's time to go outside...I can't go be in that world alone" and "I am not asking SALVATION from you", etc.

The harmonies are sooooooooooo tight!!!

[louielouie2000]

Is it me, or does she sound FRIGGIN AMAZING.
She sounds better than she did on TISL...

I just feel like crying.

She really does. She has her voice back. She's singing higher and clearer than she has since the 1980s. She sounded like a 90 year old chain smoker on TISL. Just listen to Everyday and Secret Love back to back... it's shocking. She sounds like she's had a freaking awakening or something on Secret Love... she's found her muse and reason to care again. It's so hard to believe we're hearing a 62 year old rock veteran... she just radiates youthfulness and passion on this track. God, I haven't gushed in so long... it's not freaking natural anymore! :laugh:

[Meowi]

She really does. She has her voice back. She's singing higher and clearer than she has since the 1980s. She sounded like a 90 year old chain smoker on TISL. Just listen to Everyday and Secret Love back to back... it's shocking. She sounds like she's had a freaking awakening or something on Secret Love... she's found her muse and reason to care again. It's so hard to believe we're hearing a 62 year old rock veteran... she just radiates youthfulness and passion on this track. God, I haven't gushed in so long... it's not freaking natural anymore! :laugh:

OMG! I actually got a fright when I heard Every Day after hearing Secret Love for 20 minutes.
Louie, thanks for that great post.
Everything sounds so right, and everything sounds amazing.

[johnnystorms]

she is in amazingly fine voice on this! and the wistful , longing quality of her voice is front-and-center. much moreso than i've heard in a while. BTW that pic is pretty good too. it seems like she's looking through an empty mirror frame. anyhoo, enough of my slightly tipsy ramblings. i just do like this song!

[APerfectLie]

I think the difference is. GaGa's single will be huge and shoot straight to the top of the charts, so everyone will know she has an album out in May, and eagerly anticipate it.

While Stevie will release her single in February... it probably won't do anything on the charts. BUT. People will hear it, and if it keeps getting played on the radio, by the time May rolls around, more people will be aware of the fact that Stevie has a solo album out than they would have if she released both the single and album in March. So it's a slow burner.

While GaGa will shine immediately, Stevie will slowly build up momentum.

Or something like that.

Uh oh... I detect a vague whiff of flop sweat in the air. I'm afraid that WB is at its old shenanigans again, i.e., botching the promotional campaign for a new Stevie/Mac album. "Secret Love" is not appropriate for a lead single. I can usually hear the potential for a Stevie demo in my head- changing the rhythm, changing the instrumentation, etc. This is one song that I simply cannot see turning into a hit single, let alone a lead single. Yes, it's a charming, intimate little ditty. But it's flawed, e.g., "oooh-wee, listen to me..." :eek: . It's too low-key. It doesn't say "hey bitches, guess who's back?" Rather, it says "hey, um... did y'all miss me?" :shrug: And if a vault song is being pushed out first, what does this say about all of the newly-written songs? :shrug: I'm starting to not feel so good about this...

For some reason, I don't feel this will be her lead single. I see it as someone posted earlier, as a promotional single. I think the point of it is to kinda say "hey, um... did y'all miss me?" to the older Stevie fans out there and slowly take the time to reach people who are more involved with their lives than being on top of the news of the music industry. I agree that it is supposed to be a "slow burner", but I don't think it is meant to act on its own. I think it is just the preparation. Get the song and the word about a new Stevie Nicks album out there, and then sometime around May 3, release a catchier/edgier/more rocking single from Stevie that will say "hey bitches, guess who's back!" That being said, I love it!

[sorcerer999]

Listening to "Secret Love" kinda makes one think she jumped the gun with releasing "Crystal Visions" back in 2007. I can totally hear this song being included in a greatest hits package!

But then again, who are we kidding? We'll probably get another "greatest hits" CD in another 10 years. The Definitive Collection! ;)

[GavinBrown]

I really like the song, but i agree....this is actually good promoting. This will not be the lead single for the album to promote it, its to get all of us fans to preorder and get pumped. There will be something else coming in april i bet!

[louielouie2000]

For some reason, I don't feel this will be her lead single. I see it as someone posted earlier, as a promotional single.

This will not be the lead single for the album to promote it, its to get all of us fans to preorder and get pumped. There will be something else coming in april i bet!

I hope y'all are wrong... I totally dig this song, and think it just sparkles out of the speakers. It's upbeat, it's short, it's very accessible, and I think it's a good showcase of who Stevie is and has always been. Even my non-Stevie loving boyfriend is thoroughly impressed with the song.

I hope instead WB is taking a page from Adele's book... she released "Rolling In The Deep" as a single several months before her new album. I think it's built tremendous excitement for Adele's new album, which is slated to be released in 2 weeks. I just hope this song doesn't get swept aside for some middle of the road crap the way Planets essentially was for Everyday. But y'all are probably right... that's exactly what will happen.

[Phil]

Is it just me or does this sound a little like "Pure Shores" by All Saints? That track was produced by William Orbit and I'm getting that kind of vibe from this bouncy little number.

[APerfectLie]

I hope y'all are wrong... I totally dig this song, and think it just sparkles out of the speakers. It's upbeat, it's short, it's very accessible, and I think it's a good showcase of who Stevie is and has always been. Even my non-Stevie loving boyfriend is thoroughly impressed with the song.

I hope instead WB is taking a page from Adele's book... she released "Rolling In The Deep" as a single several months before her new album. I think it's built tremendous excitement for Adele's new album, which is slated to be released in 2 weeks. I just hope this song doesn't get swept aside for some middle of the road crap the way Planets essentially was for Everyday. But y'all are probably right... that's exactly what will happen.

I love this song too, but I do think WB has ulterior motives. I think with it being Stevie Nicks, there is no way they can promote the new album on a three month old single. This isn't the only thing up their sleeve either. The single will be released Feb 3... right now the pre-order gives you a free download of the single, but in two and a half weeks, who the hell is going to be enticed by that when they can go buy the single from i-Tunes for $1.29? If I were to bet, I'd say they are going to change the pre-order package before it is released. Perhaps they will simply drop the free single and include a signed litho. Or they may come up with new packages, such as a deluxe edition which contains the documentary and a signed litho, or a vinyl with a signed litho and mp3 downloads the day of the release. The point? To make all of us who rushed out and pre-ordered it today to pre-order it (or a different package of it) again!

[wildheart048]

I had no problem pre-ordering from the WB sight off of the nicksfix websight...just listened to Secret Love...love it! Upon first listen, it doesn't sound all that different from the demo we've always known...Love the new pix, too! So, so excited...I can't wait (I can't wait!) for May!!!:blob1:

[Keith]

about everything Stevie.. the short tour with Rod.. the new single which I just downloaded.. and love. so very much.. the new picture..

wow. Didn't expect to wake up and be engulfed with some new Stevie.. and "Secret Love".. I'm in love, again. and will be at the NYC show.. making my hotel reservations right now..

glad I checked out the Ledge this a.m... wow.. never expected "Secret Love".. just wow..

yep. I'm in love.

[justdreamin]

Wow!! I'm just amazed. This song even sounds good on a crappy laptop speaker!! Does anyone know the back story to this song? I would be interested in knowing about it.

She has defied the law of degeneration and has pushed out beyond the clamor of the 60ish rock legends to an actual evolution of her voice...fresh, crisp, rippling across the flowing fabric which is her song...her beautiful song.

This is glaring sunlight in an otherwise overcast winter. I just love it...

You people out here in ledgie land just make me happy! Damn happy!!! Thank you!!

[StandbackStevie]

I hope y'all are wrong... I totally dig this song, and think it just sparkles out of the speakers. It's upbeat, it's short, it's very accessible, and I think it's a good showcase of who Stevie is and has always been. Even my non-Stevie loving boyfriend is thoroughly impressed with the song.

I hope instead WB is taking a page from Adele's book... she released "Rolling In The Deep" as a single several months before her new album. I think it's built tremendous excitement for Adele's new album, which is slated to be released in 2 weeks. I just hope this song doesn't get swept aside for some middle of the road crap the way Planets essentially was for Everyday. But y'all are probably right... that's exactly what will happen.

I have a bf too that is a non-stevie with an occassionly likes a few of her songs. I do like the new single sample myself. I will torture the bf when I get the new cd and crank it up...lol

[Liza]

Looking for help from UK fans - Has anyone tried to pre-order to the UK from the warners website - am I going mad or is the UK not given as an option on the country bar??:shrug:

[blackdove]

Looking for help from UK fans - Has anyone tried to pre-order to the UK from the warners website - am I going mad or is the UK not given as an option on the country bar??:shrug:

I'm from the UK and I've pre-ordered mine with no problems and the download was working fine too

[Liza]

Oh how strange - I am not getting an option to send to UK - will have another look. Thank you:)

[blackdove]

I love this song too, but I do think WB has ulterior motives. I think with it being Stevie Nicks, there is no way they can promote the new album on a three month old single. This isn't the only thing up their sleeve either. The single will be released Feb 3... right now the pre-order gives you a free download of the single, but in two and a half weeks, who the hell is going to be enticed by that when they can go buy the single from i-Tunes for $1.29? If I were to bet, I'd say they are going to change the pre-order package before it is released. Perhaps they will simply drop the free single and include a signed litho. Or they may come up with new packages, such as a deluxe edition which contains the documentary and a signed litho, or a vinyl with a signed litho and mp3 downloads the day of the release. The point? To make all of us who rushed out and pre-ordered it today to pre-order it (or a different package of it) again!

I think you've hit the nail straight on its head! I was wondering why they've given the single with the pre-order, if you buy the pre-order you're not going to spend out on the single again when it's released on Feb 3rd (unless it's a 3 track one with other album/non album songs). Usually with these pre-orders they give you an album track with it, then release a different track as the single.

[blackdove]

I heard the full version olny once and I'm not sure how it even happened but the one we are all hearing now is clearly cut off ..the song picked up again with more guitars and an appropriate fade out..very nice too ..looks like WB still may have a glitch sending out a cut off song.

I think its the album version, maybe it segues in to the next track? If they are calling it a single they really should have mixed it to end correctly!

[shackin'up]

To my ears, this tune is quite nice, it proves that she still can write a good tune. The only thing it lacks is warmth. I'm totally unhappy with the production. And that ooowee listen to me irritates the heck out of me. She sings great, but her voice sounds cold. For me, that's unforgivable with such a lyric. Good work, Stevie, but Stewart, go away!

[mitzo]

To my ears, this tune is quite nice, it proves that she still can write a good tune. The only thing it lacks is warmth. I'm totally unhappy with the production. And that ooowee listen to me irritates the heck out of me. She sings great, but her voice sounds cold. For me, that's unforgivable with such a lyric. Good work, Stevie, but Stewart, go away!

But the tune is from decades ago - the song was actually written in the '70's.

[shackin'up]

But the tune is from decades ago - the song was actually written in the '70's.


OK, yeah, well, that says enough. Than she should have recorded and produced it in the seventies. The result would have been 100 degrees warmer. In the shade....

[ryguy2010]

Well Warner DEFINITELY must want the song to leak b/c they still haven't removed it from youtube. Personally this is a smart move on the part of Warner. They already know that only the "true" fans will pre-order the cd and get the instant download. So why not let the casual listeners get a piece of this fantastic song as well to generate more fans?

[Jondalar]

OK, yeah, well, that says enough. Than she should have recorded and produced it in the seventies. The result would have been 100 degrees warmer. In the shade....

...you need some rest, darling it' s best...

[blinker12]

I am still not a fan of the production. I think it's very "2000-late," and will sound even more dated in a few years. I wish Stevie would work with someone who took a more stripped-down approach.

HOWEVER, and more importantly, here is what I love:

1. Her voice. Who knew she still had this in her? She reaches higher notes without sounding shrill. She's forceful sometimes, feathery-soft at others. The vibrato is rich and warm. And I love the crack in her voice on the first "leaving you here..."

2. This couplet:

I am not asking for salvation from you
I'm just asking to be safe for a while.

That's wonderful writing. It's sad, it's smart, and it's succinct.

So I quibble with the production, but all in all I'm excited.

[Sanne2]

And I love the crack in her voice on the first "leaving you here..."


OMG me too!
But the more I hear it, the more I'm annoyed with the abrupt ending of the song, I hope there is a good reason for that.

[TrueFaith77]

2. This couplet:

I am not asking for salvation from you
I'm just asking to be safe for a while.

That's wonderful writing. It's sad, it's smart, and it's succinct.



Yes, that is profound.

[MacMan]

OMG me too!
But the more I hear it, the more I'm annoyed with the abrupt ending of the song, I hope there is a good reason for that.

I agree... To me I think there's more too it... I mean it's dramatic an all ending like that, but it just feels like there should be more to it.

[GypsyNikita]

I agree... To me I think there's more too it... I mean it's dramatic an all ending like that, but it just feels like there should be more to it.

I think it will sound better when we hear the album and the next song comes on it won't sound so weird.

[Tango]

I don't know what the proper punctuation is, but these are the lyrics I am hearing:

Secret Love- by Stevie Nicks

[Jondalar]

I think it will sound better when we hear the album and the next song comes on it won't sound so weird.

Planets ended abruptly

This is a radio edit, the less time, the more they can fit it in

[TrueFaith77]

"I am not asking salvation from you
I’m just asking to be safe for a while"

Wait, wait. I hear it as

"I am not asking salvation from you
I’m just asking to be saved for a while"

[Jondalar]

Wait, wait. I hear it as

"I am not asking salvation from you
I’m just asking to be saved for a while"

I thought she said safe for awhile, not saved

[LittleCharmer]

Wait, wait. I hear it as

"I am not asking salvation from you
I’m just asking to be saved for a while"

I hear 'safe' too..

Mainly because (to quote Keira Knightly in 'The Duchess') 'One cannot be moderately dead, or moderately loved, or moderately free. It must always remain a matter of either-or'.. :laugh: and you could either be saved (given salvation) or not. You couldn't really be 'saved for a while'. Whereas you could be 'safe for a while'.

However, Stevie's not exactly famed for her incredible grammar..

[Christopher]

The more I listen... the more goosebumps I get. I am appreciating Stevie's subtle vocal nuances. Going from loud to soft, without sounding harsh at all. If her vocals are this controlled and emotive on the rest of "In Your Dreams", this will be her best record vocally since RAL. From OSOTM on, I have found her vocals to sound very strident and flat, with a few exceptions. Also this song sounds like classic mid 80's Stevie to me (with a fresh updated crispness) and doesn't sound out of place alongside Stand Back, If Anyone Falls, Talk To Me & I Can't Wait. This is the Stevie I think the world wants to hear.

[Sahara]

Whats so great about this song is the demo is really "ehh" and now is awseome. When you think about it, it's way more bang for us hard cores bucks for Stevie to improve and officially release her more bland demos then the ones that are already great in demo form. Why do we need her to put All the Beautiful Worlds, Baby Doll, If You Were My Love and Space Needle on an album, when they are basically already perfect to my ears. Would I complain if they end up an album, Hell No but do you get what I'm trying to say.

I now have hope that Anabel Lee will be listenable and maybe even good!!!

Yes to all of this.

She really does. She has her voice back. She's singing higher and clearer than she has since the 1980s. .... She sounds like she's had a freaking awakening or something on Secret Love... she's found her muse and reason to care again. It's so hard to believe we're hearing a 62 year old rock veteran... she just radiates youthfulness and passion on this track. God, I haven't gushed in so long... it's not freaking natural anymore! :laugh:

:] Nail on head! I love TISL but I have a feeling it'll be left in the dust by this record, at least vocally.

Well Warner DEFINITELY must want the song to leak b/c they still haven't removed it from youtube.

There's the litmus test! Vultures! :p

[DefDumbandBlond]

I hear 'safe' too..

Mainly because (to quote Keira Knightly in 'The Duchess') 'One cannot be moderately dead, or moderately loved, or moderately free. It must always remain a matter of either-or'.. :laugh: and you could either be saved (given salvation) or not. You couldn't really be 'saved for a while'. Whereas you could be 'safe for a while'.

However, Stevie's not exactly famed for her incredible grammar..

I hear safe as well. :D

[UndoingTheLaces]

It's "saved". The word refers to the term "salvation" from the previous line. I think it's a very seductive line and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Dave's influence. Remember Missionary Man? His stuff always had a sexually spiritual side to it. Salvation and being saved are both classically religious terms but to use them in the context of being "saved" by being held in the arms of someone you love, even for a little while, is very provocative and really sweet.

[CADreaming]

It's "saved". The word refers to the term "salvation" from the previous line. I think it's a very seductive line and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Dave's influence. Remember Missionary Man? His stuff always had a sexually spiritual side to it. Salvation and being saved are both classically religious terms but to use them in the context of being "saved" by being held in the arms of someone you love, even for a little while, is very provocative and really sweet.

How could Dave have influenced something she wrote before she even knew him?? :shrug:

Anyway...Rolling Stone's blurb about new single here (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/listen-stevie-nicks-remakes-old-song-for-new-single-20110114).

[10kRedSolids]

Having listened to this song now a half dozen times, I can honestly say that it's a "solid" song, not necessarily a "great" song. Her vocals are ok, but like so many of Stevie's songs, I often feel her vocals are much too loud in the mix compared to the music levels.

I don't hear top 40 material here folks, sorry. I think the excitement of having new Stevie music after so many years of nothingness has maybe clouded the judgement of some of you here. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice song - but listening to it critically, without bias, it's really just average in my opinion. Looking forward to hearing the rest of the CD though. Really hoping the rumours about 'China Doll' being on there are true.

Oh, and hello again :wavey:

[BombaySapphire3]

Having listened to this song now a half dozen times, I can honestly say that it's a "solid" song, not necessarily a "great" song. Her vocals are ok, but like so many of Stevie's songs, I often feel her vocals are much too loud in the mix compared to the music levels.

I don't hear top 40 material here folks, sorry. I think the excitement of having new Stevie music after so many years of nothingness has maybe clouded the judgement of some of you here. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice song - but listening to it critically, without bias, it's really just average in my opinion. Looking forward to hearing the rest of the CD though. Really hoping the rumours about 'China Doll' being on there are true.

Oh, and hello again :wavey:
It is likely that Secret Love is the demo with the "child's voice" that was referenced by Stevie last year so China Doll is pretty much out IMO.I agree with those who classify Secret Love as a promo single..i'm still betting on the title track as the first single proper.It would have to be an uttter fluke for Stevie to ever see the top 40 Billboard pop singles chart again no matter how good the song I'm sad to say.

[Artemis]

It is likely that Secret Love is the demo with the "child's voice" that was referenced by Stevie last year so China Doll is pretty much out IMO.I agree with those who classify Secret Love as a promo single..i'm still betting on the title track as the first single proper.It would have to be an uttter fluke for Stevie to ever see the top 40 Billboard pop singles chart again no matter how good the song I'm sad to say.

That's probably true, although, I'm pretty confident that Stevie can hit top ten in the Billboard 200 Album chart with ease. Possibly top 5/3.

[TrueFaith77]

How could Dave have influenced something she wrote before she even knew him?? :shrug:

Anyway...Rolling Stone's blurb about new single here (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/listen-stevie-nicks-remakes-old-song-for-new-single-20110114).

What is the line in the demo?

Also, I don't like that the Rolling Stone article talks about how the demo's been out there and this was written in the 70s blahblah. :(

[Tango]

I hear 'safe' too..

Mainly because (to quote Keira Knightly in 'The Duchess') 'One cannot be moderately dead, or moderately loved, or moderately free. It must always remain a matter of either-or'.. :laugh: and you could either be saved (given salvation) or not. You couldn't really be 'saved for a while'. Whereas you could be 'safe for a while'.

However, Stevie's not exactly famed for her incredible grammar..


LOL! Two words: Bob Dylan. I honestly don't know which it is; however, I put down what my ears first heard. You could be totally correct. Hopefully we will soon get the offical lyrics.

[SuiteShangriLa]

How could Dave have influenced something she wrote before she even knew him?? :shrug:


the lines:

Come on it’s time to go outside
i cant go be in that world alone

and:

I am not asking salvation from you
I’m just asking to be safe for a while

are not in the original demo. they were probably added/changed recently, when the song was recorded.

[BellaDonna93]

I love it, sooo f*ing much!! Looking forward to buy her album :)

[TrueFaith77]

the lines:

Come on it’s time to go outside
i cant go be in that world alone

and:

I am not asking salvation from you
I’m just asking to be safe for a while

are not in the original demo. they were probably added/changed recently, when the song was recorded.


Thank you.

And this is not a question of grammar, this is a question of theology.

Stevie Nicks is a cliffdweller from the old school.

[louielouie2000]

I am still not a fan of the production. I think it's very "2000-late," and will sound even more dated in a few years.

I will totally give you this. The production will date fairly quickly. But you can say that about all of Stevie's albums. They're all highly produced, and implement the most ripe style of production at the time they were recorded. Outside of Fleetwood Mac, Stevie doesn't seem interested in pared down, simple, or straightforward production styles though. I think she actually likes playing with what's hot in the world of sound at the moment, because Lindsey always has his own motives of what he thinks FM should sound like.

It took me a long time to come to this assumption, but I think Rock A Little is one of Stevie's best albums... and it's EASILY her most dated and overproduced work. TISL dated pretty quickly, but I'd argue it's still a very good album as well. I think it's pretty cool Stevie's in her 60s, and has no qualms going for this very youthful production style we hear on Secret Love. Good for her! :thumbsup:

[Jondalar]

I will totally give you this. The production will date fairly quickly. But you can say that about all of Stevie's albums. They're all highly produced, and implement the most ripe style of production at the time they were recorded. Outside of Fleetwood Mac, Stevie doesn't seem interested in pared down, simple, or straightforward production styles though. I think she actually likes playing with what's hot in the world of sound at the moment, because Lindsey always has his own motives of what he thinks FM should sound like.

It took me a long time to come to this assumption, but I think Rock A Little is one of Stevie's best albums... and it's EASILY her most dated and overproduced work. TISL dated pretty quickly, but I'd argue it's still a very good album as well. I think it's pretty cool Stevie's in her 60s, and has no qualms going for this very youthful production style we hear on Secret Love. Good for her! :thumbsup:

I disagree with you. I love the Wild Heart but it's her most dated work to me. The song sounds a lot like 10CC "I'm not in love", especially the ending and that song did not date fairly quickly. I think it was produced this way because of her voice. Anyway, I'm happy.

[TrueFaith77]

The production is boring. The orchestration is dull. It sounds like an Idol contestant's first single. But: The lyrics are wise. And her voice exudes experience.

[HejiraNYC]

I will totally give you this. The production will date fairly quickly. But you can say that about all of Stevie's albums. They're all highly produced, and implement the most ripe style of production at the time they were recorded. Outside of Fleetwood Mac, Stevie doesn't seem interested in pared down, simple, or straightforward production styles though. I think she actually likes playing with what's hot in the world of sound at the moment, because Lindsey always has his own motives of what he thinks FM should sound like.

It took me a long time to come to this assumption, but I think Rock A Little is one of Stevie's best albums... and it's EASILY her most dated and overproduced work. TISL dated pretty quickly, but I'd argue it's still a very good album as well. I think it's pretty cool Stevie's in her 60s, and has no qualms going for this very youthful production style we hear on Secret Love. Good for her! :thumbsup:

I don't know why you keep saying this. To me there is nothing about TISL that screams "this is so 2001 :rolleyes:." I think TISL is timeless and is perhaps the most progressive album she has ever produced. I really can't think of one song on it that sounds like it couldn't have been released today.

[Jondalar]

I don't know why you keep saying this. To me there is nothing about TISL that screams "this is so 2001 :rolleyes:." I think TISL is timeless and is perhaps the most progressive album she has ever produced. I really can't think of one song on it that sounds like it couldn't have been released today.

Well, I agree with you. It could be released today. I don't really like the album, but the production is defintely not dated. The Wild Heart is definitely dated.

[Christopher]

I don't know why you keep saying this. To me there is nothing about TISL that screams "this is so 2001 :rolleyes:." I think TISL is timeless and is perhaps the most progressive album she has ever produced. I really can't think of one song on it that sounds like it couldn't have been released today.

Agreed. To my ears the production on TISL sounds just as contemporary today as it did when it was released. I feel sometimes people may confuse their opinion that TISL was a bit over-produced with it sounding dated as mutually exclusive. However If you compare TISL with most songs/albums on top 40 today, It sounds like a stripped down acoustic outing;)

[Tango]

I love the Trouble In Shangri-La album, and don't think the production is dated at all. What's wrong with me?????? :eek:

[cliffdweller]

Well, I agree with you. It could be released today. I don't really like the album, but the production is defintely not dated. The Wild Heart is definitely dated.

And "Rock A Little" is the MOST dated of all. I think TISL sounds great. It would've sounded better and more cohesive with only one producer, but all in all it's a great album, one of her best I would say.

[Jondalar]

And "Rock A Little" is the MOST dated of all. I think TISL sounds great. It would've sounded better and more cohesive with only one producer, but all in all it's a great album, one of her best I would say.

I love the Wild Heart, but it was dated 3 years after it's release. I think it's the most dated. Unfortunately, it's one of her besst albums though.

[CADreaming]

the lines:

Come on it’s time to go outside
i cant go be in that world alone

and:

I am not asking salvation from you
I’m just asking to be safe for a while

are not in the original demo. they were probably added/changed recently, when the song was recorded.

True - but we don't know how long this original poem/song was even if it wasn't in the original demo. Dave's influence may have been to tell her to add something or to look at what she had written before and say use that or she could have told him she couldn't figure out where to place it. I'm sure he did advise with structuring, etc.

The thing that bothers me most about the song is this:

But you need some rest
My darling, it's best
"But we've already passed it," I cried
Ooh, wee, listen to me
My secret love secretly dies

******
Passed what? A test? Well, it seems obvious that word is missing throughout the whole song. Also, would it have made more sense to say something like:

But, you say "This test
My darling is best"
"But, we've already passed it. I've tried."
"Ooh wee listen to me", my secret love secretly cried

Eh. It's Stevie, I'll get over it. I still think it sounds great. :)

[sorcerer999]

I actually really like the production of this song. The end (right before the drop out on the "single" version) reminds me a bit of early U2.

And little things make me smile, like the last half of the 2nd verse when she starts with "I am not asking salvation..." and in the background you hear an acoustic guitar strumming one chord over and over again, kind of helps build up the song a bit and makes it hopeful (I don't know anyway else to describe it, but that's just what I feel when I hear it).

Also the electric piano part during "..still we're already paying the price..." that hearkens back to the original demo.

It's definitely not boring to me. :)

[mylittledemon]

The thing that bothers me most about the song is this:

But you need some rest
My darling, it's best
"But we've already passed it," I cried
Ooh, wee, listen to me
My secret love secretly dies

******
Passed what? A test?

As in the moment has passed? I dunno... that's what I got out of it

[louielouie2000]

I don't know why you keep saying this. To me there is nothing about TISL that screams "this is so 2001 :rolleyes:." I think TISL is timeless and is perhaps the most progressive album she has ever produced. I really can't think of one song on it that sounds like it couldn't have been released today.

Guys... dated does not have to mean BAD. It just means it's a moment in time... a snapshot, if you will. And I'm sorry, you can't have an album that's progressive that doesn't date itself. By the virtue of something being progressive, that means it's different than what came before it. Progressive in 2001 is not going to sound progressive in 2011. Regarding not being able to think of one song that sounds like it couldn't have been released today: Love Changes. Trust, I love TISL. At the time, I thought it was the best album she'd recorded since Bella Donna. I still think it's great, and not nearly as dated sounding as the Dance, for instance. My biggest beef with the album is the production, and especially the mixing, is soupy. But I truly adore the album. And for the billionth time, I adore Stevie too. ;)

[mylittledemon]

Mmm... soup.

[CADreaming]

As in the moment has passed? I dunno... that's what I got out of it

Ok, that works sorta ... weird though... the moment to rest has passed? Sigh..

[Sahara]

Guys... dated does not have to mean BAD. It just means it's a moment in time... a snapshot, if you will.

I agree :nod: I love 80s music because it's distinctive and different from everything else -- it's dated and I like that sound!

[DallasDude]

I, too, hear strains of U2 in the production, which helps give it that modern feel. As for being dated, many, many popular albums sound dated. Doesn't ruin the appeal for me.

As for her being over-produced, that's certainly not the case on this single. Her voice is sharp and clear. You certainly can hear feeling in the notes. Her voice is distinct but has never been considered the best ever. Her strength is how she uses her voice to blend with the production. I would never classify anything from Fleetwood Mac as minimalist. If anything, Say You Will was way over-produced and murky in many of the areas. Lindsey has done far better, as has Dave here with "Secret Love."

[wheart]

I'm late to the party...just downloaded the new single...AND I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!!! What a way to start the weekend! :)

[Sahara]

I, too, hear strains of U2 in the production, which helps give it that modern feel.

That's an interesting point -- can you expand a bit on that? I love U2 :angel:

[Silver Springs]

I hate to say it, but I'm not inspired at all.. She can do better...

[vivfox]

I wrote yesterday that after 45 listens I liked this song. I've changed my mind. I listened to it 10 times today and this song bores me to tears. Probably because
I love the demo so much. I have often said that Stevie goes into the studio and spends thousands of dollars to destroy her songs. In most cases the demo blows away the album versions.

I love the demo song No Light and John Shanks did a wonderful job producing that jem and turning it into Planets Of The Universe.

Secret Love was one of about 10 songs that came with the very first demo tape I ever aquired back in 1982. It was titled Almanac.

Unlike most of you I do like the snippet for Everybody Loves You. I look forward to songs of Stevie that I've never heard the demos of. I'm already dreading what she might have done to Annabel Lee.

[Sahara]

I hate to say it, but I'm not inspired at all.. She can do better...
She almost certainly will ... as much as I love this song, I'm convinced there are even more awesome tracks on the album.

[Silver Springs]

I have often said that Stevie goes into the studio and spends thousands of dollars to destroy her songs.

Very true! Thus why most of the Stevie collection I have on my iPod consists of demos. They're so much more raw and emotive than the over produced end products. I love Stevie's work to bits, but more so for her writing style and her demos than ever her released work. If you have to keep playing a song over and over to get it right on an album, it loses its original soul.

[Meowi]

I am still not a fan of the production. I think it's very "2000-late," and will sound even more dated in a few years. I wish Stevie would work with someone who took a more stripped-down approach.


Nope, I have to disagree here with you.
Rule one: Music does not date
TISL sounded stripped down, IMO - but thanks to Dave, Stevie has been given a fresh new rejuvenation.

[sorcerer999]

She almost certainly will ... as much as I love this song, I'm convinced there are even more awesome tracks on the album.

Wildaboutmusic David Wild
For the Faithful Friends of Stevie: I love "Secret Love" as a single, & it's my SIXTH favorite song on "In Your Dreams." Just you wait.

[DallasDude]

I most cases, I've loved other songs on Stevie's CD than the lead single. I really hated "Every Day" but other songs on TISL were very good. "Talk to Me" was very contrived (though sung like hell) on an album that contained many other gems.

"Secret Love" I actually quite like. So it only raises my expectations as to what the entire CD will sound like! One of the "news" reports I read said "In Your Dreams" would consist of 11 tunes, so all 14 produced will probably not make the final cut.

[Jondalar]

Wildaboutmusic David Wild
For the Faithful Friends of Stevie: I love "Secret Love" as a single, & it's my SIXTH favorite song on "In Your Dreams." Just you wait.

Reprise is up to something. I really think they are priming the market. Maybe they think they got a hit on their hands.

[deltablues2]

Oh, Sweeet!

[Phil]

Well remember Stevie had recorded 14 songs for her album and that at a later stage, she decided to also include "Cheaper Than Free", which was originally only slated for Dave's album. Therefore, that means there have been at least 15 songs recorded and considered for inclusion. If the tracklisting is to be cut down to just 11 songs, let's hope she has second thoughts about including "Cheaper Than Free" as it will simply be duplication at the expense of potentially superior songs.
I realise Dave has mentioned that the excess tracks will come out one way or another (bonus deluxe and additional download opportunities etc.) but I would just love Stevie's album to be comprised of the strongest material possible (although I realise this is at the end of the day entirely subjective).

[CADreaming]

I wrote yesterday that after 45 listens I liked this song. I've changed my mind. I listened to it 10 times today and this song bores me to tears. Probably because
I love the demo so much. I have often said that Stevie goes into the studio and spends thousands of dollars to destroy her songs. In most cases the demo blows away the album versions.



Ewww...I don't hear greatness in the Secret Love demo. Totally love this single.

I like demos for what they represent - the beginning of a song, the creative process, the raw track, but rarely do I think they are better than a finished, produced song.

Gold Dust Woman might be one I like better...

[Jondalar]

Well remember Stevie had recorded 14 songs for her album and that at a later stage, she decided to also include "Cheaper Than Free", which was originally only slated for Dave's album. Therefore, that means there have been at least 15 songs recorded and considered for inclusion. If the tracklisting is to be cut down to just 11 songs, let's hope she has second thoughts about including "Cheaper Than Free" as it will simply be duplication at the expense of potentially superior songs.
I realise Dave has mentioned that the excess tracks will come out one way or another (bonus deluxe and additional download opportunities etc.) but I would just love Stevie's album to be comprised of the strongest material possible (although I realise this is at the end of the day entirely subjective).

When did that happen. The 14 songs included Cheaper than Free and that song is a single they are filming a video. It won't be kicked. Infact, from what I heard, it's a really strong song. Someone said that 2 songs needed to be gone from the album and then it would perfect. I bet it some of her oddball stuff like Not Make Believe, or Paper Doll stuff. Let's hope she gets over her egos, and kicks that stuff of the album. I really hate to skip songs.

[CADreaming]

When did that happen. The 14 songs included Cheaper than Free and that song is a single they are filming a video. It won't be kicked. Infact, from what I heard, it's a really strong song. Someone said that 2 songs needed to be gone from the album and then it would perfect. I bet it some of her oddball stuff like Not Make Believe, or Paper Doll stuff. Let's hope she gets over her egos, and kicks that stuff of the album. I really hate to skip songs.

It's 14 songs, period. I doubt anything is going away...

By the way, if CTF is getting a video should we also expect a Reese Witherspoon cameo??

[vivfox]

Ewww...I don't hear greatness in the Secret Love demo. Totally love this single.

I like demos for what they represent - the beginning of a song, the creative process, the raw track, but rarely do I think they are better than a finished, produced song.

Gold Dust Woman might be one I like better...


I was thinking about this earlier today. I love the Rumours album version much better than the demo of GDW.

[CADreaming]

That little guitar riff someone commented on a while ago reminds me of Book of Miracles. Just a little.


I heard this today too - wonder if LB is playing on this one?

[CADreaming]

I was thinking about this earlier today. I love the Rumours album version much better than the demo of GDW.

Hilarious! Just proves everybody likes what they like. :wavey:

[mezzoforte]

If they're cutting songs, I just hope that the song about Twilight ends up on the cutting room floor.

[Jondalar]

It's 14 songs, period. I doubt anything is going away...

By the way, if CTF is getting a video should we also expect a Reese Witherspoon cameo??

Not exactly 14 songs. A song or two are becoming bonus tracks.

[CADreaming]

Not exactly 14 songs. A song or two are becoming bonus tracks.

Oh, my bad. I didn't mean to sound snippy either btw. I just thought it had been confirmed.

[MacShadowsBall]

I listened to it on youtube...didn't knock my socks off...but "Edge of Seventeen" is right now!!:nod:

I'm content with "Stevie of Olde." :cool:

[Jondalar]

Oh, my bad. I didn't mean to sound snippy either btw. I just thought it had been confirmed.

no problem, to be honest, I tend to like her shorter albums the best, they are tight, the longer ones contain bad songs.

David Wild posted today that Secret Love is his sixth favorite song off the album. That means this album may be all good if they choose the right songs for bonus tracks. There are always some oddballs floating around.

[Sahara]

If they're cutting songs, I just hope that the song about Twilight ends up on the cutting room floor.
Am I the only one absolutely floored by this? :distress: Poor girl must have been really stuck for something to write about...

[Jondalar]

Am I the only one absolutely floored by this? :distress: Poor girl must have been really stuck for something to write about...

oh it's right up her allie, ala, Beauty and the Beast, who knows, maybe it will be as good as that

[CADreaming]

no problem, to be honest, I tend to like her shorter albums the best, they are tight, the longer ones contain bad songs.

David Wild posted today that Secret Love is his sixth favorite song off the album. That means this album may be all good if they choose the right songs for bonus tracks. There are always some oddballs floating around.

That's a good point. I hope there aren't any real duds.

[michelej1]

I would agree that the production on TISL does not sound dated and that's largely because most of the tracks don't have a melody or beat. It's more just continuous with swells, rather than beats.

That's what took me longer to get into it, but once I did I took a pretty deep plunge. It's more about emotion than hummability. I think the less hooky a song is, the harder it is to pin it to a particular era.

I was thinking about Secret Love last night and its mood makes me think of Love Changes, although I think Secret Love is a better song. The way something momentous just fades away is heartbreaking in itself, the quietness of it.

That's what got me about "Love Changes". The sudden emptiness, that washes over you without war or roar. There's no big collision, just a break down on the side of the road.

When there's a traumatic event, a big fight, passionate outbursts, they are cleansing in a way. Cathartic. But when great love has a softer, lingering death and the ending comes amid other trivial matters, the every day, anti-climatic conclusion of it is sad. Secret Love is sing-songy and juvenile on one hand, but I think the music and Stevie's voice do capture the pain of what "secretly died" very nicely.

Michele

[michelej1]

If they're cutting songs, I just hope that the song about Twilight ends up on the cutting room floor.

Since I think I might not even know it's about Twilight unless Stevie told us, I don't dread the song. Now, if it contains lyrics like, "ooooh his chest sparkled," then I will agree with you 100%.

Michele

[PenguinHead]

Keep it right where it is. and thank you for posting it my friend!:xoxo:

I concur. I have no issues with it, nor do most of the fans here. I will legally be buying the album, singles etc...

[PenguinHead]

That's a good point. I hope there aren't any real duds.

It may sound weird, but I happen to appreciate her duds for all the right reasons: her worst moments are uniquely Stevie. No one else does a dud like her!

"Can you get into that...can you get into that"

[CADreaming]

It may sound weird, but I happen to appreciate her duds for the all the right reasons: her worst moments are uniquely Stevie. No one else does a dud like her!

"Can you get into that...can you get into that"

Ha! True! :laugh:

[mezzoforte]

It may sound weird, but I happen to appreciate her duds for the all the right reasons: her worst moments are uniquely Stevie. No one else does a dud like her!

"Can you get into that...can you get into that"

I've never thought of it that way, but so true. And you're right--in a way I cherish Silver Girl, et al. Because seriously--only Stevie.