Food n Fitness Thread #9837483

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

Me too! I had some of the best workouts yet this weekend :nod: And this morning - I almost got lazy and didn't go - but I made myself - did another 45 minutes of cardio :D

I'm definitely feeling the results - and I am down 2 pounds since leaving WW and stepping up the gym-going :p

[JazmenFlowers]

I don't know how many of you are doing squats, but lemme tell ya. they work. my ass has gotten so tight and in shape, it's insane. even my undergarments (I hate the word underwear) fit better.

as an update on my routine, here's what I do.

diet:
breakfast - some sort of Kashi protein bar
snack - small bag of pork skins or apple and peanut butter
lunch - some sort of Lean Cuisine, Healthy Choice, etc.
snack - small bag of pork skins or some type of fruit
dinner - sandwich and small bag of chips or another frozen healthy meal or soup or chicken and salad
late snack - one piece of dark chocolate (not every day)

exercise:
arms, chest, back, legs, butt - 3 times a week
cardio - 4-5 times a week
yoga/pilates/flexibility training - 1-2 times a week

fyi, my current cardio program is walk at 4.0 for 5 minutes, run at 5.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 4.0 for 2 minutes, run at 6.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 4.0 for 2 minutes, run at 5.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 4.0 for 2 minutes, run at 6.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 4.0 for 2 minutes, run at 5.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 3.7 until I reach 2.5 miles - it's a variation on the Couch to 5K's Week Two plan.

[BlackWidow]

I don't know how many of you are doing squats, but lemme tell ya. they work. my ass has gotten so tight and in shape, it's insane. even my undergarments (I hate the word underwear) fit better.

as an update on my routine, here's what I do.

diet:
breakfast - some sort of Kashi protein bar
snack - small bag of pork skins or apple and peanut butter
lunch - some sort of Lean Cuisine, Healthy Choice, etc.
snack - small bag of pork skins or some type of fruit
dinner - sandwich and small bag of chips or another frozen healthy meal or soup or chicken and salad
late snack - one piece of dark chocolate (not every day)

exercise:
arms, chest, back, legs, butt - 3 times a week
cardio - 4-5 times a week
yoga/pilates/flexibility training - 1-2 times a week

fyi, my current cardio program is walk at 4.0 for 5 minutes, run at 5.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 4.0 for 2 minutes, run at 6.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 4.0 for 2 minutes, run at 5.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 4.0 for 2 minutes, run at 6.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 4.0 for 2 minutes, run at 5.0 for 2 minutes, walk at 3.7 until I reach 2.5 miles - it's a variation on the Couch to 5K's Week Two plan.

Good 4 YOU!!! Jason..how old are you...?:shrug:

[carrie721]

jazzy, you. kick. ass.

i really lightened up after i hurt my back, and i am feeling it ... ugh!

[JazmenFlowers]

Good 4 YOU!!! Jason..how old are you...?:shrug:
27...
jazzy, you. kick. ass.

i really lightened up after i hurt my back, and i am feeling it ... ugh!
how is your back?

don't rush it. hopefully, you'll be up to speed soon and can get back to it. I know it's hard to.

[carrie721]

how is your back?

don't rush it. hopefully, you'll be up to speed soon and can get back to it. I know it's hard to.

i still have range of motion issues, but for the most part i don't have any pain doing normal activities.

my mom asked me to carry a 60-pound air conditioner down to the garage the other day, and i really paid for it in the days after. that is NOT a "normal activity"!

i think i can start doing core exercises again, hopefully that will help.

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

Your mom IS a whore!!! "Hi Carrie..I know you just threw your back out recently and that you were in mega-pain...here carry this way heavy appliance for me..." :mad:

Hmm...actually that sort of reminds me of the Golden Girls hernia episode :p

[carrie721]

^^

Your mom IS a whore!!! "Hi Carrie..I know you just threw your back out recently and that you were in mega-pain...here carry this way heavy appliance for me..." :mad:

Hmm...actually that sort of reminds me of the Golden Girls hernia episode :p

:lol: :lol: :lol:

"it was wicker!!!!!"

[DrummerDeanna]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

"it was wicker!!!!!"

"my last words to her were Shut up, Zulu!!" :lol: Love.

[skcin]

On week 4 of the "couch to 5K." It's going well - the weather here's been really nice so I don't really have an excuse not to go out & run. Still doing the elliptical the other 2 days, so 30 minutes of cardio 5 days a week. Plus the weight resistance excercises 3 days a week.

The diet hasn't exactly been blown, but I haven't counted points in about 2 weeks. I'm up another pound, but I still feel great & clothes are fine. Oh, and at my MD appointment last week, they said I'd lost about 6 pounds since last year! So there's definitely progress.

As of today I'm starting point counting again, and I think I'll increase my elliptical time to 45 minutes & see what happens. :angel:

[DrummerDeanna]

My "fat pants" don't fit anymore :blob1:

I tried them on yesterday because I thought they'd look good with a sweater - I can easily pull them on and off without undoing the zipper or buttons...they will no longer stay up by themselves :blob2:

Yea!!! I'm way excited...I won't try on my jeans yet...don't think I'm quite there...but by Christmas..I'll totally be wearing them :nod:

[JazmenFlowers]

a couple of cool links I found:

http://www.bravotv.com/Work_Out/tips//index.shtml

http://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/usnasummerseminar.htm

I have had to stop wearing most of the pants I was wearing. you know how Stacy and Clinton (on What Not To Wear) are always saying if you don't wear clothes that fit you look bigger? well, it's true. I have been wearing things I haven't worn in about a year. 10 pounds by Xmas seems easy, but lord it's like I'm losing a pound a week. luckily, even though I haven't lost any this week, I managed to hold steady over Thanksgiving.

[SuzeQuze]

Thanks for those links. I lost a pound over Thanksgiving. I seriously think my body is shcizo.

I've been wondering, does anyone know about the 85% heart rate thing? How bad is it to work out at like 90%? My heart rate is usually pretty high while working out but it freaks me out because I'm not sure how safe that is.

[markolas]

Well, I've seriously fallen off the wagon.

I had to break down and buy new pants, even though I had been refusing to buy "fat clothes." Mine had started to develop holes in rather unseemly places and were no longer fit to wear to work.

Now, I have never before worn pants that were bigger than a 32 waist; imagine my dismay when I went to try them on and discovered that I need a 36! And I weighed 173 the other day!! Pls. keep in mind, I am only 5'5".

I've cut up my debit card and am not carrying cash so I won't be able to go grab fast food on my lunch break now, even if I try.

[SuzeQuze]

Well, I've seriously fallen off the wagon.

I had to break down and buy new pants, even though I had been refusing to buy "fat clothes." Mine had started to develop holes in rather unseemly places and were no longer fit to wear to work.

Now, I have never before worn pants that were bigger than a 32 waist; imagine my dismay when I went to try them on and discovered that I need a 36! And I weighed 173 the other day!! Pls. keep in mind, I am only 5'5".

I've cut up my debit card and am not carrying cash so I won't be able to go grab fast food on my lunch break now, even if I try.

Have you watched Fast Food Nation? A lot of people have said that turned them off of fast food.

On edit: It's Super Size Me! Duh.

[markolas]

Have you watched Fast Food Nation? A lot of people have said that turned them off of fast food.

I haven't. It won't turn me off of eating altogether, will it? Although, maybe that's not a bad thing.

[SuzeQuze]

I haven't. It won't turn me off of eating altogether, will it? Although, maybe that's not a bad thing.

I haven't seen it. But the filmmaker ate nothing but fast food for a month, gained a bunch of weight, felt like crap... Plus they did some experiments with the food and some revealing of what is really in it. I don't think it will turn you off of food altogether but alot of people said they would never eat fast food again after watching the movie. :eek:

[markolas]

I haven't seen it. But the filmmaker ate nothing but fast food for a month, gained a bunch of weight, felt like crap... Plus they did some experiments with the food and some revealing of what is really in it. I don't think it will turn you off of food altogether but alot of people said they would never eat fast food again after watching the movie. :eek:

I'm easily traumatized. When I was 8 years old, my grandmother made me watch that TV movie with Bernadette Peters where she plays the mother of the little boy whose dad took him to a motel and set the room on fire. I was scared to take a bath for a year after that. :distress:

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^
it's hard to wake up one day and realize that you've gained weight. and it seems like it happens overnight. but, in the end, it really does come down to how determined you are. you have to make up your mind to do it. once you make it through 2 weeks or so and get into a good routine, it's just keeping it up. you can do it.

Super Size Me - watch it. it will really make you think about fast food.

if I can help you in any way, let me know.

[skcin]

Super Size Me - watch it. it will really make you think about fast food.



ITA. It's a real eye opener for just how bad it is for you. I'm no idiot, I never thought it was healthy, but the damage it started doing to this guy's liver and other organs in such a short time was shocking. :shocked:

[JazmenFlowers]

ITA. It's a real eye opener for just how bad it is for you. I'm no idiot, I never thought it was healthy, but the damage it started doing to this guy's liver and other organs in such a short time was shocking. :shocked:
yep. he gained like 10 pounds in a week or something.

I do wonder though if Morgan was vegetarian or strict eater before this. I know he was in good shape and his fiance is vegan or maybe vegetarian so I'm sure the fast food really shocked his body.

but when he was in the car eating a big mac I think and he got sick...that's some serious ****. the reason we don't all get that sick is because we're probably used to all the crap that's in them.

[JazmenFlowers]

Thanks for those links. I lost a pound over Thanksgiving. I seriously think my body is shcizo.

I've been wondering, does anyone know about the 85% heart rate thing? How bad is it to work out at like 90%? My heart rate is usually pretty high while working out but it freaks me out because I'm not sure how safe that is.
try these:

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/hr.shtml

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4736

http://exercise.about.com/cs/cardioworkouts/l/aa022601a.htm

[SuzeQuze]

I'm easily traumatized. When I was 8 years old, my grandmother made me watch that TV movie with Bernadette Peters where she plays the mother of the little boy whose dad took him to a motel and set the room on fire. I was scared to take a bath for a year after that. :distress:

Okay, that's a normal reponse for an 8 year old to an age inappropriate movie. What was your grandmother thinking?

[SuzeQuze]

try these:

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/hr.shtml

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4736

http://exercise.about.com/cs/cardioworkouts/l/aa022601a.htm

Thanks, I can never find the answer to that specific question though. I tend to work out oer 85% and I just am not sure if that is healthy.

[carrie721]

Thanks, I can never find the answer to that specific question though. I tend to work out oer 85% and I just am not sure if that is healthy.

suze, you shouldn't be doing a sustained cardio workout at a very high heartrate. if you're going fast enough that you can't talk comfortably talk while you're doing it, it's not healthy.

[skcin]

yep. he gained like 10 pounds in a week or something.

I do wonder though if Morgan was vegetarian or strict eater before this. I know he was in good shape and his fiance is vegan or maybe vegetarian so I'm sure the fast food really shocked his body.

but when he was in the car eating a big mac I think and he got sick...that's some serious ****. the reason we don't all get that sick is because we're probably used to all the crap that's in them.


I was more scared of the liver function changes. They got so bad the doctor tried to get him to stop this horrible diet long before the month was up.

[SuzeQuze]

suze, you shouldn't be doing a sustained cardio workout at a very high heartrate. if you're going fast enough that you can't talk comfortably talk while you're doing it, it's not healthy.

I can talk but the heartrate is high.

[carrie721]

I can talk but the heartrate is high.

what's your actual heart rate at 90%?

[SuzeQuze]

what's your actual heart rate at 90%?

I think it's 165ish.

On edit: I just used Jazzy's calculator from his first link which adjusts for a higher resting heart rate. It shows 178 as my 85% which helps explain my confusion. So 165 for me isn't crazy high I guess. Phew.

[carrie721]

I think it's 165ish.

that doesn't sound unhealthy - when i was working out at the gym, that's where i would try to stay when i was doing cardio. i've read that you should stay between 60% and 90% ... so you should be fine! :wavey:

[markolas]

^^^
it's hard to wake up one day and realize that you've gained weight. and it seems like it happens overnight. but, in the end, it really does come down to how determined you are. you have to make up your mind to do it. once you make it through 2 weeks or so and get into a good routine, it's just keeping it up. you can do it.

I can't even make it through 1 week. :laugh:

Mostly, it's a comfort food. If I'm having a stressful day, or I'm feeling a little depressed or something...I head straight for McDonald's or Wendy's.

[markolas]

Okay, that's a normal reponse for an 8 year old to an age inappropriate movie. What was your grandmother thinking?

She was probably drunk. :laugh: I think that was the summer she lived with us and ate and drank nothing but Vicodin and Old Crow. :rolleyes:

[carrie721]

f*ck.

i need a f*cking kick in the pants. i have been so depressed this month. not just a seasonal malaise, it's been worse than that. i was doing so well with diet & exercise, and then i couldn't exercise when i hurt my back. now i feel like i have had a total emotional crash. i don't want to get out of bed, i don't want to leave my house, i don't want to deal with the necessities of life. my social anxiety has gotten so bad that my friends only see me if they visit me at work. they don't really understand ... i mean, they're understanding, but they don't get it. the other day i agreed to go to target with my friend, but i told her i had to be home by five. what happens at five? nothing, i just couldn't handle being out longer than that. i dunno what's going on. i have anxiety before i go into work. it's not an anxiety attack, per se, but my heart starts racing and i become really withdrawn ... which is a difficult state to go into work in.

i know i just need to pick myself up like i did when i first started with diet & exercise, but i wanted to share my bull****.

[DrummerDeanna]

:( That sucks Carrie. I'm really sorry to hear about that...has this happened before and how did you pull yourself out of the funk before?

Or are you in that stage where you know you should and need to pull yourself out - but just can't quite get there....that's the worst :(

[carrie721]

:( That sucks Carrie. I'm really sorry to hear about that...has this happened before and how did you pull yourself out of the funk before?

Or are you in that stage where you know you should and need to pull yourself out - but just can't quite get there....that's the worst :(

yeah, this has happened before ... i've been dealing with severe depression for about 10 years now. i used to just live with it ... i'd go through periods where it would naturally lighten but it would eventually come back. once i started exercising regularly my mood really leveled out, so now i can pretty much control it. but it's hard because all i wanna do is pull the covers over my head. :laugh: when i hurt my back, i actually kind of prepared myself mentally for something like this ... i knew it was mostly the exercise that was keeping me at even keel.

[DrummerDeanna]

yeah, this has happened before ... i've been dealing with severe depression for about 10 years now. i used to just live with it ... i'd go through periods where it would naturally lighten but it would eventually come back. once i started exercising regularly my mood really leveled out, so now i can pretty much control it. but it's hard because all i wanna do is pull the covers over my head. :laugh: when i hurt my back, i actually kind of prepared myself mentally for something like this ... i knew it was mostly the exercise that was keeping me at even keel.

Yuck. Buuuut it sounds like you know what you need to do. You quit the gym though, right? Is it still nice enough to go biking?

I've never had to deal with severe depression, moderate was bitch enough - but if that was bad ...I can't even imagine what you're going through :( Wish I had some words of wisdom but I don't....

[carrie721]

Yuck. Buuuut it sounds like you know what you need to do. You quit the gym though, right? Is it still nice enough to go biking?

I've never had to deal with severe depression, moderate was bitch enough - but if that was bad ...I can't even imagine what you're going through :( Wish I had some words of wisdom but I don't....

yeah, i quit the gym b/c it was expensive and my car died. i think this week will be the last week for bike riding. i have a couple cardio dvd's and a pilates dvd, though. i'm also going to get a yoga dvd - i think that will help a lot with the anxiety.

[DrummerDeanna]

yeah, i quit the gym b/c it was expensive and my car died. i think this week will be the last week for bike riding. i have a couple cardio dvd's and a pilates dvd, though. i'm also going to get a yoga dvd - i think that will help a lot with the anxiety.

:nod: Yoga does amazing things for the mind and body - the feeling of peace and well-being I have after doing YOga...oh nothing beats it.

In the meantime just take care of yourself...what you're going through does not sound at all pleasant...:(

[carrie721]

:nod: Yoga does amazing things for the mind and body - the feeling of peace and well-being I have after doing YOga...oh nothing beats it.

In the meantime just take care of yourself...what you're going through does not sound at all pleasant...:(

thanks dee. :xoxo:

[DrummerDeanna]

thanks dee. :xoxo:

Oh..here's some advice...

Just watch your favorite L Word sex scenes over and over and over...

Wait...sorry...that's a remedy for low libido..not depression...damn.

[carrie721]

Oh..here's some advice...

Just watch your favorite L Word sex scenes over and over and over...

Wait...sorry...that's a remedy for low libido..not depression...damn.

haha, i did that today ... just made me not want to leave my room that much more. :D :]

[foxyluva]

yeah, i quit the gym b/c it was expensive and my car died. i think this week will be the last week for bike riding. i have a couple cardio dvd's and a pilates dvd, though. i'm also going to get a yoga dvd - i think that will help a lot with the anxiety.

You quit the gym!? :(

[DrummerDeanna]

haha, i did that today ... just made me not want to leave my room that much more. :D :]

:lol: Oh...yeah...guess that's one of the side effects :p

[carrie721]

You quit the gym!? :(

months ago. i didn't quit working out. :shrug:

[DrummerDeanna]

months ago. i didn't quit working out. :shrug:

Yeah..she's been sweatin' to the oldies...keep up!! :p
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/d/db/180px-Richard_Simmons-Sweatin_to_the_Oldies_3.jpg

my mom actually does these videos

[foxyluva]

months ago. i didn't quit working out. :shrug:

Good :)

(useless words here)

[carrie721]

Yeah..she's been sweatin' to the oldies...keep up!! :p
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/d/db/180px-Richard_Simmons-Sweatin_to_the_Oldies_3.jpg

my mom actually does these videos

damn straight! in fact, i work out with your mom. :D

Good :)

(useless words here)

:xoxo:

[DrummerDeanna]

damn straight! in fact, i work out with your mom. :D





:lol: :lol:

Oh and I meant to ask...how long have you been feeling down now?

[carrie721]

:lol: :lol:

Oh and I meant to ask...how long have you been feeling down now?

she really gets into it! :D

it's been about a month ... maybe a little longer.

[DrummerDeanna]

she really gets into it! :D

it's been about a month ... maybe a little longer.

:lol: I couldn't even watch her doing the tapes because it pretty much made my physically ill.


a month...well blah...keep us updated..and I really hope you get to feeling better :o

[foxyluva]

it's been about a month ... maybe a little longer.

Wait, what have I missed - why have you been feeling down? :(

[SuzeQuze]

She was probably drunk. :laugh: I think that was the summer she lived with us and ate and drank nothing but Vicodin and Old Crow. :rolleyes:

Nice to having a loving, nurturing grandma, eh? Oy. :rolleyes: Mine's a real piece of work too.

[skcin]

she really gets into it! :D

it's been about a month ... maybe a little longer.

So right after Curtis hit you in the head with a flying object, Theresa refused to have sex with you & we all left town? :shrug:



Seriously though - you've done it before, and you can do it again. :xoxo: You'll get through this. Even though your mom's a whore.

[carrie721]

Wait, what have I missed - why have you been feeling down? :(

i dunno, i just have. no real reason.

So right after Curtis hit you in the head with a flying object, Theresa refused to have sex with you & we all left town? :shrug:



Seriously though - you've done it before, and you can do it again. :xoxo: You'll get through this. Even though your mom's a whore.

exactly - something in my heart died that night ... oh well, it's just one more chip off an already broken heart. :distress:

and thanks. just gotta keep on keepin' on.

[JazmenFlowers]

Nice to having a loving, nurturing grandma, eh? Oy. :rolleyes: Mine's a real piece of work too.
yeah really.

my grandmother once offered me $20 for every 5 lbs I lost. I was heartbroken b/c it came out of nowhere. then one year my aunt told me she was going to get me a personal trainer for my birthday. that really sent me over the edge.

and my family wonders why I have issues (especially appearance)? :shrug:

[carrie721]

yeah really.

my grandmother once offered me $20 for every 5 lbs I lost. I was heartbroken b/c it came out of nowhere. then one year my aunt told me she was going to get me a personal trainer for my birthday. that really sent me over the edge.

and my family wonders why I have issues (especially appearance)? :shrug:

holy crap, jaz, that sucks.

my mom used to say "wouldn't you just feel better if you'd lose some weight? don't you think you're overweight? etc." ... i was 9, and i wasn't even overweight! i've always been large-framed. the kids at school were mean, tho, so it was extra nice to get it from mom. :rolleyes: ugh.

[SuzeQuze]

yeah really.

my grandmother once offered me $20 for every 5 lbs I lost. I was heartbroken b/c it came out of nowhere. then one year my aunt told me she was going to get me a personal trainer for my birthday. that really sent me over the edge.

and my family wonders why I have issues (especially appearance)? :shrug:

Wow! My family is really bad about appearance too. My aunt once told my Mom, "She's thin except for [saddlebags]." And my Mom TOLD ME she said that. :shrug: WTF? It's genetic and I can't get rid of it without surgery but leave it to them to be so critical. My grandmother once made me feel like a slut for wearing one barrette, I was 11. :rolleyes: I'm very vain and very self-critical. Shocker, eh? :lol:

On edit: Your family has the bigger issues, you're the fab one. :xoxo:

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

Mostly I've been lucky on the family side (aside from the unlce who nicknamed me ugly as a child.) But two of my aunts and one cousin had eating disorders, and rather than continuing that trend they really seemed to try and build a healthy body image with me...telling me I wasn't fat etc..

And when I lost a bunch of weight and firmed up my last year in college my grandma FREAKED out...said I was too thin etc....so it usually goes the other way in my family...though the fact that my grandma has not been harassing me about how skinny I am means that I am, in fact, over weight :lol:

[JazmenFlowers]

And when I lost a bunch of weight and firmed up my last year in college my grandma FREAKED out...said I was too thin etc....
of course they did. if you're not too fat then you must be too thin. you're never "ok" - mine did the same thing.

[skcin]

Wow. :shocked: You guys have some f*cked up families. Mine's nowhere near normal either, but I was never made to feel that I was fat or unattractive. That's awful, and just goes to show how your upbringing really affects you for the rest of your life.

Did you guys see the Biggest Loser last night? That whiny girl got kicked off, so I didn't mind cuz she annoyed me. But I felt awful for her - she had lost a total of 60something pounds, yet she was upset because she hadn't gotten below 160. It's sad that for some of us, nothing will ever be quite good enough. What she accomplished was so amazing, but all she could focus on were the 2 more pounds she needed to get below 160. :(

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^
so true. my family is reason numero uno why I am so obsessed with appearance and how I look and why I always think that no one will "love" me if I'm not perfect...I like to think that I am fine inside and out, but there's always that voice in my head. "you look so stupid in that" or "that makes you look fat" or "where are the husky jeans?"

I remember like it was yesterday my grandma taking me to a high-end store to get some jeans and she loudly asked where the husky section was. well, once I tried them on I had to come out in front of the sales folk while she poked and prodded and checked the waist to see if it was too tight, etc. talk about embarassed.

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

Yup...what happens in our upbringing often stays with us. Of course like I said, it wasn't so much family for me BUT I just remembered...my mom took me to this doctor...it was free on-campus health care for faculty and their families.

I remember this doctor because I went there because my mom was afraid I had Strep throat - he came in and said, "well you're daughter is fat and will only get fatter unless you do something.." I was so NOT fat...when I look at pictures..I was just fine - but at that time I felt like a huge blimp...

The doctor gave no advice on health or diet - just said told me I was fat :distress:

He's no longer there...he got canned after refusing to treat a gay man and then he was quoted in the paper as saying gays are just more apt to disease so why treat them....asshole.

[skcin]

^ Wow, that guy sounds nuts.

I do recall that when I was about 12 I asked the MD if I was fat. She said "Oh no, you're not fat all all. You're just.....solid." :rolleyes:

[DrummerDeanna]

^ Wow, that guy sounds nuts.

I do recall that when I was about 12 I asked the MD if I was fat. She said "Oh no, you're not fat all all. You're just.....solid." :rolleyes:

Just solid :lol: what every little girl dreams of hearing. My mom once took me to my aunt's work so my aunt could lecture me on how not fat I was...I wouldn't listen.

This was before the doctor fiasco. I do wonder - my mom never criticized my looks, nor did my sister or other relatives (except for the uncle who called me "ugly") So I often wonder where the hang-up of being fat came from - as far back as I can remember I've thought I was fat....

And even though when I look at pics now I wasn't...I was always called fat by boys and such...:mad:

Childhood sucks.

[SuzeQuze]

It sounds like I was very lucky I was skinny. But I always knew that and thanked God for it. My last name would not work well if I were a heavy child. Oy. But after puberty that gift of metabolism went the way of the honey bee and I've had pretty serious body image issues since. My grandfather's a beaut, a couple of years ago he told me I'd put on A LOT of weight. Um, no kidding. :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, in second grade some kid said really loud just about yelling, "Susan ____, she's a dog!" Then I thought I was ugly. Weird huh? Kids really suck. So I didn't have the fat thing but the ugly thing, yeah.

[skcin]

^ Which is awful, cuz you're gorgeous. :nod:

[DrummerDeanna]

Ok. So I've been working out every damn day (ok 5 days a week) and am doing quite well - I'm losing the inches and I'm on the right track...

But today this gal at work (it's been a bad day at work) looks at some pictures I have on my desk of me with various NPR hosts...she says, "Ooh look how skinny you were..." But she doesn't stop there...she starts the "oh we should join the porker club.." or something (she's not at all heavy)...

Depressing. I know I'm not a model but good God! I think Mr. Tact has died right along with Mr. Common Sense.

[CreepingDeath]

Wow. :shocked: You guys have some f*cked up families. Mine's nowhere near normal either, but I was never made to feel that I was fat or unattractive. That's awful, and just goes to show how your upbringing really affects you for the rest of your life.

Did you guys see the Biggest Loser last night? That whiny girl got kicked off, so I didn't mind cuz she annoyed me. But I felt awful for her - she had lost a total of 60something pounds, yet she was upset because she hadn't gotten below 160. It's sad that for some of us, nothing will ever be quite good enough. What she accomplished was so amazing, but all she could focus on were the 2 more pounds she needed to get below 160. :(

Of course I wanted either Kai or Eric to be voted off, but I'm glad whiny girl is gone. She was definitely too much of a cry baby. I think I want Jaron, the other one that didn't start out in the house, to win. I'll hurt something if it's Kai.:nod:

I can't wait for the finale. The before and after photos are usually very dramatic.

[markolas]

Nice to having a loving, nurturing grandma, eh? Oy. :rolleyes: Mine's a real piece of work too.

If she died tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a tear.

^^^
so true. my family is reason numero uno why I am so obsessed with appearance and how I look and why I always think that no one will "love" me if I'm not perfect...I like to think that I am fine inside and out, but there's always that voice in my head. "you look so stupid in that" or "that makes you look fat" or "where are the husky jeans?"

I was never fat, but my parents made me feel that way, especially my mother. She was embarrassed by my appearance and my personality (introvert) as well. It wasn't until maybe a year ago that I finally started to accept the fact that people actually find me attractive, and that I'm not some hideous freak of nature. I've all but stopped obsessing about it. I'm concerned about the excess weight I'm carrying because I'm terrified of having a stroke or heart attack, or becoming diabetic. I actually don't think I look too bad.

My mother also has a habit of putting me down in front of other people (she's been doing it since I was little). Actually, I think this story deserves a thread all its own. :D

[SuzeQuze]

^ Which is awful, cuz you're gorgeous. :nod:

Thx. Boys are just idiots. I get that now. :laugh:

[carrie721]

Ok. So I've been working out every damn day (ok 5 days a week) and am doing quite well - I'm losing the inches and I'm on the right track...

But today this gal at work (it's been a bad day at work) looks at some pictures I have on my desk of me with various NPR hosts...she says, "Ooh look how skinny you were..." But she doesn't stop there...she starts the "oh we should join the porker club.." or something (she's not at all heavy)...

Depressing. I know I'm not a model but good God! I think Mr. Tact has died right along with Mr. Common Sense.

you.are.kidding.me.

what a heinous whore. i would've told her to get the **** away from me! that is awful!

[DrummerDeanna]

you.are.kidding.me.

what a heinous whore. i would've told her to get the **** away from me! that is awful!

Well when she said, "Look how skinny you were" I got right up and started walking away - to go into the studio..she followed and kept talking..and all I replied with was, "well I work out everyday..I'll keep doing that " :rolleyes:

So as you can see today was not a banner day at work for me...unchivalrous men and women who call me fat :lol:

I'm thinking of calling in sick tomorrow :p

[carrie721]

Well when she said, "Look how skinny you were" I got right up and started walking away - to go into the studio..she followed and kept talking..and all I replied with was, "well I work out everyday..I'll keep doing that " :rolleyes:

So as you can see today was not a banner day at work for me...unchivalrous men and women who call me fat :lol:

I'm thinking of calling in sick tomorrow :p

yeah, geez ... what a ****ty day! you should just call in tomorrow and tell them you're trying to recover from the case of douchebaggery you contracted from them today. :D

[DrummerDeanna]

yeah, geez ... what a ****ty day! you should just call in tomorrow and tell them you're trying to recover from the case of douchebaggery you contracted from them today. :D

Thanks! I was trying to think of excuses..and that's just perfect...:p

Seriously though I think I sounded all pissed off on the air - I found out about the parking thing right before my shift started - and then the chippy with no tact told me that half-way through my shift...

"I'm sorry, Jim, I can't come in today I've got an awful case of douchebaggery and if I come in I may end up seriously injuring two co-workers..or more....thanks bye."

Perfect...all scripted out :p

How was YOUR day at worK?

[carrie721]

Thanks! I was trying to think of excuses..and that's just perfect...:p

Seriously though I think I sounded all pissed off on the air - I found out about the parking thing right before my shift started - and then the chippy with no tact told me that half-way through my shift...

"I'm sorry, Jim, I can't come in today I've got an awful case of douchebaggery and if I come in I may end up seriously injuring two co-workers..or more....thanks bye."

Perfect...all scripted out :p

How was YOUR day at worK?

there y'go - it's good to have it all planned out. :D

my day? pretty average. i walked in, got yelled at for something i didn't do, and spent my evening doing as little as possible, which really bit me in the ass b/c i had to stay almost an hour late finishing my ****. i hate my job so much. it's a great motivator for going back to school, tho. :rolleyes:

[JazmenFlowers]

I was never fat, but my parents made me feel that way, especially my mother. She was embarrassed by my appearance and my personality (introvert) as well. It wasn't until maybe a year ago that I finally started to accept the fact that people actually find me attractive, and that I'm not some hideous freak of nature. I've all but stopped obsessing about it. I'm concerned about the excess weight I'm carrying because I'm terrified of having a stroke or heart attack, or becoming diabetic. I actually don't think I look too bad.

My mother also has a habit of putting me down in front of other people (she's been doing it since I was little). Actually, I think this story deserves a thread all its own. :D
child...the talks you and I could have.

I was/am a huge extrovert...very outspoken and loud and playful. you should start a thread then. I could write volumes I'm sure.

[carrie721]

My mother also has a habit of putting me down in front of other people (she's been doing it since I was little). Actually, I think this story deserves a thread all its own. :D

my mother has always done this - to my peers, her peers, my coworkers, anybody. then she's all, why do you need therapy? :rolleyes:

[DrummerDeanna]

there y'go - it's good to have it all planned out. :D

my day? pretty average. i walked in, got yelled at for something i didn't do, and spent my evening doing as little as possible, which really bit me in the ass b/c i had to stay almost an hour late finishing my ****. i hate my job so much. it's a great motivator for going back to school, tho. :rolleyes:


Yeah..that sucks big bop balls. I mean getting yelled at sucks as it is, but when it's for something you didn't do? Screw that!

[carrie721]

Yeah..that sucks big bop balls. I mean getting yelled at sucks as it is, but when it's for something you didn't do? Screw that!

yeah. my boss did way too much blow in the early 90's. it really ****ed with him.

[amber]

^^^
so true. my family is reason numero uno why I am so obsessed with appearance and how I look and why I always think that no one will "love" me if I'm not perfect...I like to think that I am fine inside and out, but there's always that voice in my head. "you look so stupid in that" or "that makes you look fat" or "where are the husky jeans?"

I remember like it was yesterday my grandma taking me to a high-end store to get some jeans and she loudly asked where the husky section was. well, once I tried them on I had to come out in front of the sales folk while she poked and prodded and checked the waist to see if it was too tight, etc. talk about embarassed.

My god. All you people's stories. :( :distress: It's so sad. When I got in shape to my normal weight around age 19-21, which was about 5-10 lbs less than my previous weight, my mom asked me if I was anorexic (I weighed 133, am 5'3", and was obviously muscular). Then my grandma expressed similar concerns. She was all "are you eating enough sweetie?". When i was growing up my family always said the best figures had shape and were muscly, therefore I had the best shape. And my dad occasionally called people "bone legs" or "bony" or "no shape, just bony". No one was pretty if they didn't have enough shape. :laugh: Also, no one in my family ever went on a diet, or talked about people's weight. (except the occasional "bony" or "noodle-flabby" comment by my dad). I guess all my family has good figures, though. But they would get heavy, my mom and uncle. No one cared, I guess, and they still played sports.

I didn't know people's families were like that. I knew kids in school were like that, though, due to my nickname of bubble butt, but at the time I took it as a compliment, b/c of how my family said flat butts are not cool. :shrug:

My point? Everyone's family should be Italian. No, not really, I just can't believe the stories. Parents/family who are lost, and taking their children with them...:( My family didn't talk about looks much at all, just, I guess, talents. But they were all pretty exceptionally attractive, too. I'm the ugliest.
God, I didn't realize how it could have been, I'll have to go back and thank them...Poor Jazzy....:xoxo: Good thing in actuality you are so attractive...:cool:

[SuzeQuze]

my mother has always done this - to my peers, her peers, my coworkers, anybody. then she's all, why do you need therapy? :rolleyes:

That always cracks me up. You're the one with the issues that just came out of nowhere. Denial is not a river in Egypt!

My Mom didn't do that but she criticized me often in private yet bragged about me to others. Then once in a while they'd tell me and I'd be thinking, "Why can't she tell me that?"

We recently got into a pretty good fight which has made me, once again, limit my time with her. It was over the fact that she doesn't care for her emotional health. I guess to her I sound like Ms Harpy because she absolutely does not want to deal with her issues. She's normal after all! And I'm sure she is, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have issues. :rolleyes:

Yeah..that sucks big bop balls. I mean getting yelled at sucks as it is, but when it's for something you didn't do? Screw that!

Deanna, I am very concerned about your parking situation the more I think about it. Why not call the police department and tell them your situation and have them call that stupid HR lady telling her why you need the close spot? She's a f*cking moron.

yeah. my boss did way too much blow in the early 90's. it really ****ed with him.

Hmm, this could work in your favor. You could really get in his head. We need to come up with a plan. Muahahahahahahahaaaa! :lol:

[JazmenFlowers]

...Poor Jazzy....:xoxo: Good thing in actuality you are so attractive...:cool:
I know, right? :laugh: just kidding.

yeah, it sucks to see families that don't do this to their kids. I walk around with a lot of guilt. I could go on and on about various things, but I'll tell one more and then let it go.

my grandma used to always tell me "when you grow up you won't ever come see me. you'll forget me and I'll be alone" and I'd always say "no I won't, I love you and I'll come see you" - so, of course now that I'm grown and have responsibility I don't really get to see her as much as I'd like so every chance she gets she tells me about all the times she told me that and in an "I told you so" way. makes me feel like poo. but no one seems to mention the fact that she comes here to see my aunt and never bothers to call me and let me know she's in town.

[JazmenFlowers]

oh. on a GREAT note, this morning I fit into my half-way mark goal jeans. Hollister jeans that I haven't been able to wear in months, probably a year. I'm in heaven!

[SuzeQuze]

oh. on a GREAT note, this morning I fit into my half-way mark goal jeans. Hollister jeans that I haven't been able to wear in months, probably a year. I'm in heaven!

Nice. Last nite I bought new, smaller jeans (mine are all too big now) and I had to get the slim fit cuz the curvy fit was too big. :cool: High five!

Oh yeah, and tell your grandmother if she were loving and nurturing you would happily go see her but since she isn't she can go sh*t in her hat! Don't feel guilty she's a pill. If you asked your aunt, would she call you to let you know when your grandmother is coming? I like the idea of you visiting her with others around. If you choose to visit her at all.

[markolas]

my grandma used to always tell me "when you grow up you won't ever come see me. you'll forget me and I'll be alone" and I'd always say "no I won't, I love you and I'll come see you" - so, of course now that I'm grown and have responsibility I don't really get to see her as much as I'd like so every chance she gets she tells me about all the times she told me that and in an "I told you so" way. makes me feel like poo. but no one seems to mention the fact that she comes here to see my aunt and never bothers to call me and let me know she's in town.

Okay, I swear I'm going to post my little story in another thread, but I have to say that your grandmother sounds extremely emotionally manipulative (like my mother). Once I realized what my mother was doing, any guilt I felt about moving away from home and wanting to minimize contact *stopped*.

[JazmenFlowers]

Okay, I swear I'm going to post my little story in another thread, but I have to say that your grandmother sounds extremely emotionally manipulative (like my mother). Once I realized what my mother was doing, any guilt I felt about moving away from home and wanting to minimize contact *stopped*.
totally. and the funny thing is, just this passed Thanksgiving (a long story) I realized that as well. and no longer feel like I'm the "bad seed"

[bikerchic]

I'm thinking of purchasing a pair of Spanx :cool: The complete body suit.

http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/product/fashion/full+bodysuit+380165.do?&N=100047%20111604&Ns=P_DATE_CREATED

http://www.spanx.com/pls/enetrixp/!stmenu_template.main

[SuzeQuze]

I'm thinking of purchasing a pair of Spanx :cool: The complete body suit.

http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/product/fashion/full+bodysuit+380165.do?&N=100047%20111604&Ns=P_DATE_CREATED

http://www.spanx.com/pls/enetrixp/!stmenu_template.main

Hehe, forget working out, just buy a body girdle! :thumbsup:

[DrummerDeanna]

Hehe, forget working out, just buy a body girdle! :thumbsup:

I like that idea :thumbsup:

Heh....

Actually...I've been meaning to update in here.

Not going as strictly on the diet side (and I've still yet to read the "8 Weeks..." book that is sitting by my bed...)

But I don't have to be as strict when I'm working out everyday, which I am. Well, again,only 5 days. Because I'm trying to LOSE weight rather than maintain I've upped my cardio to 45 minutes...and on days when I do weights I do more than my traditional 10 minute cardio warm-up....so all around the workouts are longer and more intense.

So far so good - though numbers wise I'm not down a lot I've got two pairs of pants (regular ones, not my "fat pants") that are not fitting so good - I had to use a safety pin yesterday to fold over the waist on one pair :thumbsup:

So it's going well - this season has been a bitch with all the damn candy and cakes and cinnamon buns people are bringing in - but it't the holiday season and I'm exercising so I'm not goign to beat myself up for eating a piece of cake :o

[SuzeQuze]

I like that idea :thumbsup:

Heh....

Actually...I've been meaning to update in here.

Not going as strictly on the diet side (and I've still yet to read the "8 Weeks..." book that is sitting by my bed...)

But I don't have to be as strict when I'm working out everyday, which I am. Well, again,only 5 days. Because I'm trying to LOSE weight rather than maintain I've upped my cardio to 45 minutes...and on days when I do weights I do more than my traditional 10 minute cardio warm-up....so all around the workouts are longer and more intense.

So far so good - though numbers wise I'm not down a lot I've got two pairs of pants (regular ones, not my "fat pants") that are not fitting so good - I had to use a safety pin yesterday to fold over the waist on one pair :thumbsup:

So it's going well - this season has been a bitch with all the damn candy and cakes and cinnamon buns people are bringing in - but it't the holiday season and I'm exercising so I'm not goign to beat myself up for eating a piece of cake :o

Seriously. The way I say it I'd rather be dead than never eat anything I love anymore.

[DrummerDeanna]

Seriously. The way I say it I'd rather be dead than never eat anything I love anymore.

Right. I couldn't handle it :laugh: I can't live my life not having a damn piece of pizza when I want it ---but it's the learning that I can have one or two slices - I don't have to eat half the pizza in one sitting....

That's the thing - teaching myself moderation...it's not that I didn't KNOW the half a pizza was unhealthy - I'm not an idiot (contrary to what others believe) but it's a compulsion.

And it turns out the roots go back to my childhood - I've always had a really weird hang up about food - and this fear that I wouldn't get enough. I don't know where it came from as I never remember a time growing up when I went hungry....but the fear has always been there...so I over-compensate eating more than I should....I'm still working on figuring out where this came from in my life.

And there's the ever-popular stress and emotional eating of which I've always been a big practitioner :laugh: That one has been easier to fight actually....

And, of course, the exercise really really helps. It's also helped my way of thinking...like after a good workout I don't want to undo it all by eating some huge gross meal...I want something good that will nourish my body etc...
so that shift in attitude has been a welcomed thing in my life.

[skcin]

I've been slacking in both departments for about 5 or 6 days. It doesn't take long to make you feel sluggish & gross. We've been offsite doing flu shot clinics at work, which means I have to eat the prepackaged lunch they give us - at 11am. :shocked: I hate it. This is totally screwing with my eating schedule, not to mention working extra early &/or late is not helping me get in much exercise. Blergh. Tomorrow's the last day, and I'm exhausted.

[JazmenFlowers]

well I am thoroughly peeved. how in the hell have I gained 3 lbs? I'm assuming it's muscle. but at this rate, I'll never meet my end of the year goal. I've been stepping up my whole exercise routine. I'm formatting a 45 day program that I'll share here once I'm done. hopefully I will lose these last 20 in a couple months.

[bikerchic]

well I am thoroughly peeved. how in the hell have I gained 3 lbs? I'm assuming it's muscle. but at this rate, I'll never meet my end of the year goal. I've been stepping up my whole exercise routine. I'm formatting a 45 day program that I'll share here once I'm done. hopefully I will lose these last 20 in a couple months.

I'll put you down for a "Spanx"? :cool:

[JazmenFlowers]

I'll put you down for a "Spanx"? :cool:
as long as you're footing the bill. ;)

[goldustsongbird]

Oh-ho... Guess who dropped a jean size, bitches? :)

Which is comforting, actually, considering I pigged out on Burger King last night. :rolleyes:

[carrie721]

Oh-ho... Guess who dropped a jean size, bitches? :)

Which is comforting, actually, considering I pigged out on Burger King last night. :rolleyes:
good job. :D

[goldustsongbird]

good job. :D

It's awesome. Size 7, yo. :shocked:

[carrie721]

It's awesome. Size 7, yo. :shocked:

sup hot mama! wutchu doin' friday night?

[goldustsongbird]

sup hot mama! wutchu doin' friday night?

Goin' out with some babe from Kent, Ohio. You might know her. :shrug:

[carrie721]

Goin' out with some babe from Kent, Ohio. You might know her. :shrug:

well the only babe around here is me...

hey, wait a minute ...

:lol:

NP: emmylou - the pearl

[goldustsongbird]

well the only babe around here is me...

hey, wait a minute ...

:lol:

NP: emmylou - the pearl

:laugh:

Wrong thread, dorkass. Unless you just felt like telling me you were listening to Emmylou.

[carrie721]

:laugh:

Wrong thread, dorkass. Unless you just felt like telling me you were listening to Emmylou.

LOL ... i do that a lot! i usually catch it tho ...

:lol:

well yes, dorkass, i did just feel like telling you i was listening to emmylou! :p

[goldustsongbird]

LOL ... i do that a lot! i usually catch it tho ...

:lol:

well yes, dorkass, i did just feel like telling you i was listening to emmylou! :p

Good, because I was dying to know! :xoxo:

[carrie721]

Good, because I was dying to know! :xoxo:

bish!

btw, now i'm listening to emmylou's version of sweet old world. so there.

[goldustsongbird]

bish!

btw, now i'm listening to emmylou's version of sweet old world. so there.

Sup. I am now... listening to nothing. I was going to listen to Tusk, but windows media has decided that it's going to update to v11, whether I want it to or not. :mad: I hate WM11! *whine* The beta scared the hell out of me. lol.

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^
way to go Lisa. that's awesome.

the good thing about working out regularly is that you can eat those bad things once in a while, but your metabolism is so wound up, it just looks at that whopper and laughs.

[skcin]

Keeping the thread alive, baby! Say, where's Jaz been? Busy with the holidays I s'pose.

How are you guys doing? It's tougher for me this time of year, since I bake a lot (cookies, that is :D ) and I'm usually too busy to plan & cook good healthy meals. But I'm still watching portions & continuing to work out regularly. I weighed myself today, after 2 weeks of not doing so, and I haven't gained any weight! :blob1: I'm thrilled just to maintin until the holiodays are over.

The only crappy thing is that the weather here's been crazy - it's warmer than normal but very windy & rainy most mornings, so I haven't run at all. Just the elliptical (I'm up to 40 minutes 5 days a week) and light weights.

[SuzeQuze]

I lost 2 more pounds. I think, I never trust it until I weigh that number for a week. The weight training is really paying off. I'm getting strong. The fat in my upper arm is almost gone. I'm so excited about that! My bra is looser. :rolleyes: Dammit. There's a downside to everything, eh? :lol:

I'm doing my baking tonite. I'm making fudge, holiday M&M cookies, and chocolate peanut butter bars. Oh yes I am.

[DrummerDeanna]

I'm just doing the workouts for the time being. I am not really watching what I eat - it's the holidays, I've got a birthday coming up -I'm gonna freaking have my cake and eat it too...

But because of my workouts I've not gained any weight :D Like Paula said I'm perfectly happy to maintain until after Christmas.

And I don't make New Year's resolutions - but I don't know what else to call this (a plan maybe?)

But at the start of the year I plan on reading 8 Weeks to Optimum health (if I start reading it now I won't implement crap from it) so I'm looking forward to that :thumbsup:

[SuzeQuze]

Cool. There's a great article in O magazine (Jan issue) about why it is so hard to change our habits. It's a great read and really helps you let up on yourself. We're hard-wired to be smoking, drinking, binging fiends! :lol: Well, sort of. Basically it comes down to the fact that you won't do anything unless there is an immediate reward in it. So you have to figure out how to reward yourself for "good" behavior. Also that scientists are pretty near finding that food does act like a drug in your brain. So the compulsion to eat is much like the compulsion to shoot up. I highly recommend this article to everyone!

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

I'll have to check that out!! I'm really looking forward to reading Dr. Weil's book...but as a true creature of habit I know it's going to require all of my attention, which is why I've put it off until the first of the year....

I'm really pleased that I've been keeping up with the workouts - and honestly I'm not at all down on myself for the lack of über health eating - it's the holiday season and I love the foods that are part of that....:D In fact my sister is making me a real Hershey's chocolate cake for my birthday...I can't freakin' wait :laugh:

[carrie721]

Cool. There's a great article in O magazine (Jan issue) about why it is so hard to change our habits. It's a great read and really helps you let up on yourself. We're hard-wired to be smoking, drinking, binging fiends! :lol: Well, sort of. Basically it comes down to the fact that you won't do anything unless there is an immediate reward in it. So you have to figure out how to reward yourself for "good" behavior. Also that scientists are pretty near finding that food does act like a drug in your brain. So the compulsion to eat is much like the compulsion to shoot up. I highly recommend this article to everyone!

cool ... my mom just bought that & told me about the article. i'll have to read it!

here's a cute article i read today, from http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2491892,00.html :

I am fat. I even edge into being clinically obese — by the BMI calculation of dividing my weight by my height squared. Yet into this squared pigeonhole, this round and roly-poly peg refuses to be squished. Because what it says on paper is not the truth of who I am: I am no couch potato, no blob, no wobble-butt or lardarse. I do not overflow from my seat on aeroplanes — nor do my cholesterol levels or blood pressure in any way fit the profile of an obese person.

The news this week that fat women benefit more from exercise than from diet is no revelation to me. If you didn’t know what I looked like, my weekly exercise diary would read almost like Demi Moore’s . . . two hours sweating around West London with a personal trainer, an hour-and-a-half session of Pilates, an hour of hilariously bad tennis and, in between, an obsession with bicycling everywhere. I don’t do this to sweat off the calories, I do it to keep fit and healthy and to justify eating. When I ski, I out-ski everyone I’m with, skiing harder, bumpier, higher, longer (notice I don’t say that about the tennis). As one friend put it, as she saw me picking up not one but three children to carry them across a stream last summer, “you are scarily strong”.

So I am fit, healthy and fat. I am also, when the clothes, make-up and lighting have all come together, confidently fat and sexy. I follow fashion, not the fashion of midriff-baring or the minidresses of skinny minnies, nor the fascism that masquerades as fashion for fat people – the kaftans, three-quarter sleeves and elasticated waists — but a cherry-picking of those trends that suit me. I can look fairly good with clothes on — and exponentially better without. I am the opposite of an anorexic: they look in the mirror and see a fat person; this fat person looks in the mirror and sees only perfect curves and a marvellous bosom. But there is no getting away from the fact that I am fat — and nor do I need to. It is the self-love that dare not speak its name.

There are a few of us self-lovers about but society is, at best, ambivalent. After all, no one wants to be too different. My confidence even begins to wobble towards the defensive when faced by celebrities such as Nigella Lawson and Charlotte Church who, first lauded by the press for their womanly curvaceousness, are then praised even more when they “slim down”. But I’m going to stick to my buns on this one. I may actually be fat, but every woman I know thinks that she is fat. Even the friend who hasn’t a spare inch to pinch anywhere on her body is plagued with body issues — and desperate to find the perfect diet. So I’m not so different after all — I’m meant to think I’m fat — with the only deviation being that I’m going to be less tortured about it. It’s a funny thing, being fat and fancy-free. I was at a series of workshops recently, run for the store managers of a chain of shops that sell women’s clothes in sizes 16-26 (I hover between 16/18 for trousers and 20 for tops), and the word “fat” was not mentioned for the first two days. When I josh about being fat, I watch people’s reactions: watch the struggle between pity and admiration that I could be so frank. When I go running with my personal trainer, who isn’t exactly rake-thin herself, I chuckle at the confusion on the faces of passers-by. “Two fat birds! And look at them go!” The greatest tease was when I had naked pictures of myself taken as a present for my husband’s 40th birthday: even my closest friends were astonished at my blatant — even brazen — acceptance of my body.

As Ogden Nash put it: “I am constantly in/The mood/for food.” For me, food is not about pigging out on deep-fried Mars bars and living in McDonald’s, but a reverence for food that is fresh, wholesome and, yes, probably a bit naughty. So for me, Christmas lunch will be about lingering over the voluptuous curve of the turkey’s breast; sinking my teeth into a well-cooked sprout; lolling in the lambent glow of a golden roast potato — oh, that delicious surrender as crunch gives way to velvety softness — and luxuriating in the tart little tingle of an occasional lick of cranberry sauce. Champagne will be dealt with greedily. Brandy butter will be stroked on to that mouthwatering tangle of fruit and naughty bits known as Christmas pudding. This isn’t just food, this is guilt-free food.

After Christmas and New Year, I will not, therefore, be going on a diet. I may well have put on (more) weight but, unlike the majority of the female population (an estimated 12½ million Brits are trying to diet), I will not be scanning the bookshelves and the health and lifestyle sections of the newspapers for This Year’s Way to Lose Weight. I may be a devoted follower of fashion, but I am beyond fashion when it comes to diets. Why would I want to sign up for weeks of deprivation, expensive and exhausting detox, or the tyranny and self-obsessiveness of examining the few morsels I am allowed to put into my body and analysing their ability to make me thin? Why suffer the side-effects of bad breath and bad temper? Not to mention the inability to think about anything else other than food? I love food — why should I suddenly have to hate it?

I won’t be going on a diet because I know something that you all secretly know too: dieting makes you fat.

More accurately, it makes you fat and makes me fatter. If you diet — in the modern sense of the word — you will, when you stop “dieting”, put on weight. It was something I always suspected from looking at my own history and those around me — my mother has spent most of her life on one diet or another and hates her figure more now than she ever did — but it was only when I was researching my book, Fat So?, which started off as an anthology of diets and ended up a crusade against its very subject, that I put flesh on to the bones of that basic observation.

In a study of the survivors of the two years of famine in the Warsaw Ghetto of the Second World War, the truth was there in the starkest possible way. Of those survivors (nearly all of whom had also gone through the starvation of the concentration camps), most became markedly fat after the war — flabby, with devastated muscle tone. Scientists worked out that, for years, these men and women had an average daily calorie intake of between 700 and 800, suffering a daily deficit of 1,700 calories. Faced with so little coming in, their bodies went into famine mode, secreting fat stores and eating into muscle tissue instead. Once their diet went back to normal, their bodies did not replace the burnt muscle tissue but, assuming that starvation might happen again any minute, shunted any surplus calories straight into fat cells. What was true for the Polish Jews is true for us. Crash-diet in January? Don’t do it, because as soon as you resume normal — or even sensible — eating, your body has the same reaction: stashing the stuff straight into fat cells because who knows when that starvation routine is going to happen again. As the comedienne Rita Rudner said: “It takes six months to get in shape and two weeks to get out of shape. As soon as you know this, you can stop being angry about other things in life and only be angry about this.”

There’s even worse news. So primeval are we that, if we go on a serious diet, we waken the primitive beast that is our “fat memory”. While we spend our entire lives struggling to reach our “ideal weight” — the thinnest we’ve ever been or the “thin memory” of what we used to weigh as teenagers or pre-babies — our body has a different agenda. Its “fat memory” is a different animal and is programmed to get us back to the highest weight we have ever been — as a caveman’s survival mechanism to keep the body in a state of readiness for any more famine. These days, with abundant food, ever-increasing portion-size (yes, that’s you, burger chains, with your doubled and tripled Big Macs and Whoppers) and yo-yo dieting, our fat “thermostat” gets set artificially high, so the body stores fat above and beyond a caveman’s dreams. The really shocking news — you may want to stick your fingers in your ears here and sing “La! La! La! Can’t hear you!” — is that the sadistic bastards who worked out the “fat memory” explanation tell us that once this has happened — once we’ve got a bit fat, dieted furiously to take it off and then got fatter afterwards as a consequence — it takes the body upwards of 20 years to reset that thermostat and “forget”.

I was put on my first diet by my mother when I was 12 and stopped dieting about ten years ago. Since I am now nearly 38, on the 20-year “fat memory” timetable I will be 48 before I can undo the damage done by that first diet. Thinking about this — or, indeed, any of the thousands of other diet theories that heckle us through life — is enough to make one crawl under the duvet and frogmarch through a few Flakes. But I won’t. I’m fat. So what? I last longer when tossed into the Arctic Ocean and, in the meantime, I like my eating life — unlike my friends, who dread every dinner invitation, business lunch or children’s birthday party.

So I shall not be lard-butting my way through the festive season. I will be as active as possible (perhaps not the full 18-mile hike required to work off the calories consumed at an average Christmas lunch, but exercise will be taken) and I will choose my food carefully for a mood-enhancing mixture of nutritional goodness and pure pleasure — a little of what you fancy does you good. I love my food and I love my body — why should the two be mutually exclusive? At one end of the scale is the old maxim of “Eat less, exercise more”, but we all know that’s true (as Edina says in Absolutely Fabulous: “Sweetie, if it was that easy, everybody would be doing it”) so I won’t insult your intelligence and I will step to the other end. This is where we can celebrate food — the freshness, the deliciousness of home-cooking, the news that red wine, avocados, olive oil, even chocolate, are not all bad — and celebrate living.

Let’s eliminate our excessive use of dairy, refined sugar, processed flour. Do you know why we like these foods in the first place? Because we’re snobs and show-offs. It’s all a con, the “haute cuisine” of fancy food based on meat, cream, cheese, sweetness: a legacy from the Age of Enlightenment (and Enfattenment) when the emerging middle classes of the 17th and 18th centuries had less to fear from famine and plague and had a more assured food supply.

Rich food — involving long processes and using expensive new imports such as sugar — was just one more way to show off their riches; so why do we still hold up as a “treat” a way of eating that is unnatural, unbalanced and founded on mere prosperity? The day we realise that brown rice is simply more delicious than white is still perhaps a way off, but the first thing we must all to do is to throw away the meal-for-one, steer clear of fast-food joints and sandwich shops, get back in to the kitchen and start enjoying food that is then enjoyed by our bodies. Bon appetit – now you can have a very happy Christmas.

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

very entertaining little article! I liked it...I think it has a very good message - one I'm trying to embrace (about the self-love).

[skcin]

Great article. :nod:

[carrie721]

i liked it too. she's got a great attitude, and it's a good reminder that a healthy body comes in all shapes & sizes.

as for me ... i renewed my membership to the gym on saturday. i just have to work around my transportation issues, because i've found that i really can't get the same workout here at home that i've been getting at the gym, especially in the winter. not that it's all that winter-like outside lately ... but y'know.

i also need some better workout clothes. i have a pair of yoga pants that i really like, but they're too long. way too long. when are designers going to learn that people who wear XL clothes are not 7 feet tall??

anyway, just checkin' in.

[DrummerDeanna]

when are designers going to learn that people who wear XL clothes are not 7 feet tall??


That! Is a freakin' excellent question....!

[carrie721]

That! Is a freakin' excellent question....!

it gets pretty ridiculous sometimes. i tried on these pants at target a while back, and they were fukcing unbelievable ... from the waist to the crotch there was about a foot of fabric, and they were a foot too long. who is shaped like that? :lol: and it's not as if i'm oddly proportioned ... it was so stupid. designers need to wake up.

[DrummerDeanna]

it gets pretty ridiculous sometimes. i tried on these pants at target a while back, and they were fukcing unbelievable ... from the waist to the crotch there was about a foot of fabric, and they were a foot too long. who is shaped like that? :lol: and it's not as if i'm oddly proportioned ... it was so stupid. designers need to wake up.

:lol:

I can't wear pants from Target. They always look awful and are always at least a foot too long :laugh:

And when I shop in the petite section at stores...it's all old lady clothes!!! I'd like some "pre-shrunken human being" pants please, with no elastic on the waist.

I hate shopping for pants. Hate.

[carrie721]

:lol:

I can't wear pants from Target. They always look awful and are always at least a foot too long :laugh:

And when I shop in the petite section at stores...it's all old lady clothes!!! I'd like some "pre-shrunken human being" pants please, with no elastic on the waist.

I hate shopping for pants. Hate.

it pisses me off.

the only pants that fit me are from lane bryant. give it up! :woohoo:

[SuzeQuze]

That article is great. I wish I could permanently shift my mind to that kind of thinking but I seem to flip flop on it. Although right now I'm happy with my size and shape for the most part. Although by the fashion media standards I'm the size of a plus sized model (10). Seriously, it is frigging rediculous.

I don't know why designers do that with sizes. They take the size 3 and then use that as a blueprint for all sizes. Well hello? That is just not how real women are proportioned. Dumbass.

I have an ample bottom and decided long ago that I will buy myself expensive jeans because they're the only ones that really fit. The cheap ones are never cut right.

Oh yeah, Carrie, having cute exercise clothes really does help at the gym. I had some pretty heinous stuff and one day was wearing my worst when I saw someone I know. I was so mortified. Fortunately I saw him again last week in my cute clothes. Hehe. :)

I don't think bigger bodies are less attractive than smaller ones. I really don't. I am super hard on myself though and usually not so much with others. I think my mindset is very different from most American women. Still, I would like to have a healthier body-image for sure. I have worked on this issue for a very long time though, it's really hard.

And elastic waist bands are the worst. The manufacturer always skimps on the elastic so it just cuts into you. How is that flattering? Or comfortable? It just isn't.

[skcin]

I have an ample bottom and decided long ago that I will buy myself expensive jeans because they're the only ones that really fit. The cheap ones are never cut right.



Really? I have a fat ass. :shrug:

BTW - what brand of jeans do you like? I usually buy mine from NY & Co. but that's mainly out of convenience & affordability, rather than good fit. I mean, they're OK, but I could definitely use a nicer pair.

[SuzeQuze]

Really? I have a fat ass. :shrug:

BTW - what brand of jeans do you like? I usually buy mine from NY & Co. but that's mainly out of convenience & affordability, rather than good fit. I mean, they're OK, but I could definitely use a nicer pair.

I just bought a pair of Ann Taylor Loft jeans that fit like a glove and now people can really tell I've lost weight wearing jeans that fit! I guess they can't see it in my "big pants". :lol: They're boot cut "slim fit". I think the slim is a generous cut still though. The other was too big in the hips. Yes, really. :blob1:

And no, not fat ass, "ample bottom". Or "curvaceous derriere".

[carrie721]

I have an ample bottom and decided long ago that I will buy myself expensive jeans because they're the only ones that really fit. The cheap ones are never cut right.

yep, i realized this too. it's only lane bryant for me ... i wore gap & old navy for years and thought that was as good as it got. i was so wrong! i feel so much better wearing clothes that fit me right, that get my proportions right.

Oh yeah, Carrie, having cute exercise clothes really does help at the gym. I had some pretty heinous stuff and one day was wearing my worst when I saw someone I know. I was so mortified. Fortunately I saw him again last week in my cute clothes. Hehe. :)

oh god, that has happened to me too. :lol: unfortunately i have yet to run into him again in cuter clothes. :mad:

I don't think bigger bodies are less attractive than smaller ones. I really don't. I am super hard on myself though and usually not so much with others. I think my mindset is very different from most American women. Still, I would like to have a healthier body-image for sure. I have worked on this issue for a very long time though, it's really hard.

i agree with you - smaller bodies aren't more attractive by virtue of being smaller, it's all about dressing them properly, which is something most designers don't understand. if you look at most plus sections, you find tents and long, flowing fabrics and **** nobody wants to wear. it's actually a big motivator for me to lose weight. nobody looks good in that ****. designers need to get it through their thick skulls that larger women have no reason to be ashamed of their bodies, and they don't want it covered up in layers and layers of fabric. ugh.

[elie]

I really enjoyed the article Carrie posted! It makes some good points that people usually ignore :shrug:


And Carrie, you make an excellent point about smaller bodies not necessarily being more attractive! I know a lot of not-so-thin women who are actually more attractive than they would be if they were thinner. I especially hate the looks of those women who are not supposed to be very thin(I mean that their body was not actually built to be that way) and they just look starved to death. (I know, because -I hate to admit that-I went through that phase a couple of years ago :rolleyes: ).
Now I am just your typical mediterrenean woman: thin from the waist up, big ass& thighs and normal legs:rolleyes:

[skcin]

Well, I tried on a dress at NY & Co. last night, since everything was 50% off. I love the dress, I've had my eye on it for months, and it would have only been 20something bucks.

Great news: The 12 was too big! :thumbsup:
Sh*tty news: They didn't have a 10. :mad:

So, I'm happy that my usual size was too small (even with my monthly bloat) and that I didn't blow $, but still upset. Cuz I really liked that dress. :(

[SuzeQuze]

Well, I tried on a dress at NY & Co. last night, since everything was 50% off. I love the dress, I've had my eye on it for months, and it would have only been 20something bucks.

Great news: The 12 was too big! :thumbsup:
Sh*tty news: They didn't have a 10. :mad:

So, I'm happy that my usual size was too small (even with my monthly bloat) and that I didn't blow $, but still upset. Cuz I really liked that dress. :(

That's so cheap, buy it and have it tailored! :D

[SuzeQuze]

...
i agree with you - smaller bodies aren't more attractive by virtue of being smaller, it's all about dressing them properly, which is something most designers don't understand. if you look at most plus sections, you find tents and long, flowing fabrics and **** nobody wants to wear. it's actually a big motivator for me to lose weight. nobody looks good in that ****. designers need to get it through their thick skulls that larger women have no reason to be ashamed of their bodies, and they don't want it covered up in layers and layers of fabric. ugh.

Those awful "designs" don't do anything for anyone. It's not like you can hide a larger body, right? No one is fooled. It's better to flaunt those curves! Otherwise you're just getting that old lady mumu look. That doesn't help anyone. Stupid designers.

I did just hear there is a movement toward using larger sized models. We'll see.

[DrummerDeanna]

No fitness for me this week - but lots of food. THough actually I'm quite proud of myself - usually I just throw caution to the wind on "travel days" and eat any and all crap I pick up at gas stations, I eat fast food etc..NONE of that yesterday.

I stopped at a Subway and got one of the 6gram sandwiches..NO chips...and drank lots of water, no candy...yea!

Of course now that I'm IN New MExico it's all gonna go to hell since my sister makes the best Chocolate Chip cookies known to man....not to mention these to die for Candy Cane cookies :D

I'm gonna enjoy it - and hit the fitness hard again once I get back home next week.

[skcin]

That's so cheap, buy it and have it tailored! :D

I thought about it, but decided against it. Knowing me I would never get around to it & it would sit in my closet for years. :D

And Dee - you'll be fine. I've been treating myself lately too, but I literally cannot eat that much anymore - it makes me feel ill. So I have a cookie here & there but I don't overdo it - I couldn't even if I wanted to.

Hit the elliptical for 20 minutes yesterday morning (woke up late) and 30 today.

[carrie721]

Those awful "designs" don't do anything for anyone. It's not like you can hide a larger body, right? No one is fooled. It's better to flaunt those curves! Otherwise you're just getting that old lady mumu look. That doesn't help anyone. Stupid designers.

I did just hear there is a movement toward using larger sized models. We'll see.

i think this is apropos!

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[DrummerDeanna]

And Dee - you'll be fine. I've been treating myself lately too, but I literally cannot eat that much anymore - it makes me feel ill. So I have a cookie here & there but I don't overdo it - I couldn't even if I wanted to.
.

I can't stuff myself like I used to - which is very good news. And I am actually less attracted to sugar lately - so that is also very good news - as is the fact that I've finally convinced myself that I don't have to eat something "just because it's there".

So far I've done really well on this trip - and I'm proud of myself for it and feeling wonderful :nod:

Tomorrow - it's Applebees with the grandparents- I HATE APplebees -but it's their favorite place to eat in their tiny town - and they do have a couple of Weight Watcher menu items that aren't bad...:D

[SuzeQuze]

i think this is apropos!

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The video keeps stopping at :58, so annoying!

I'm very hard on myself about not making huge gains in my exercise and such. But when I think back, I just started weight training last year and was only doing upper body. Now I do my whole body. I could only military press 10lbs and am now up to 30 and up on all other weights as well. I do 30 min of cardio fairly comfortably as opposed to 20 min of really having to push. So I guess when I look at the big picture I've come a long way. Oh yeah, plus I've lost 12 lbs and a size. I think it was focusing on small changes that helped me. Every month or two adding weights, or new machines. Etc. I hope I can keep it up for '07 because I am feeling really confident right now and it is so cool.

[carrie721]

The video keeps stopping at :58, so annoying!

I'm very hard on myself about not making huge gains in my exercise and such. But when I think back, I just started weight training last year and was only doing upper body. Now I do my whole body. I could only military press 10lbs and am now up to 30 and up on all other weights as well. I do 30 min of cardio fairly comfortably as opposed to 20 min of really having to push. So I guess when I look at the big picture I've come a long way. Oh yeah, plus I've lost 12 lbs and a size. I think it was focusing on small changes that helped me. Every month or two adding weights, or new machines. Etc. I hope I can keep it up for '07 because I am feeling really confident right now and it is so cool.

that's awesome that you're feeling so confident! woo suze! you really do have to focus on overall change over time because it's so easy to get bogged down and feel as if you're in a rut.

oh, i don't know why that clip is stopping at :58, it's working for me. essentially, mary jo and julia are telling suzanne she should shop at those "big and beautiful" stores, and suzanne finally says "i know i've put on a little weight, but you all are actin' like i should be buyin' fabric from georgia tent and awning!" :lol: i love that show, especially that episode, which addressed delta burke's weight gain.

[SuzeQuze]

that's awesome that you're feeling so confident! woo suze! you really do have to focus on overall change over time because it's so easy to get bogged down and feel as if you're in a rut.

oh, i don't know why that clip is stopping at :58, it's working for me. essentially, mary jo and julia are telling suzanne she should shop at those "big and beautiful" stores, and suzanne finally says "i know i've put on a little weight, but you all are actin' like i should be buyin' fabric from georgia tent and awning!" :lol: i love that show, especially that episode, which addressed delta burke's weight gain.

Thank you. :)

It took a lot of courage for her to address that on TV I think. Awesome.

[carrie721]

Thank you. :)

It took a lot of courage for her to address that on TV I think. Awesome.

absolutely. i love delta burke. i think it's awesome that after she lost the weight, she still refused to patronize designers who didn't offer clothing in her heavier size. and i think her own clothing line is still doing quite well, too.

[carrie721]

god. had total emotional clothes-shopping-with-mother-i'm-fat-and-disgusting breakdown today. fuhuck. almost burst into tears in macy's. not good. :rolleyes:

[DavidMn]

god. had total emotional clothes-shopping-with-mother-i'm-fat-and-disgusting breakdown today. fuhuck. almost burst into tears in macy's. not good. :rolleyes:Geez, that's too abd. Dont feel bad dear, just look at me.:lol:

[DrummerDeanna]

Well over the (almost) two weeks of holiday time - I only worked out once. My yesterday I felt it. I was lethargic, depressed and felt huge...I'd already been feeling crappy last week - it hit full force yesterday - but this morning - being a new year and all - I got out of bed and hopped right over to the gym. I am already feeling tons better...this is going to be a good year for me fitness wise - I can feel it :thumbsup:

[skcin]

Yeah, day 1 of my "back on track" plan & I woke up too late to exercise before work. :rolleyes: Figures. I was able to squeeze in a quick walk with the dog before I left, but that's it. I plan on hitting the elliptical tonight.

BTW - I screwed up my right arm lifting weights. I was using 8 pound hand weights, which is apparently fine for biceps & even triceps, but not deltoids. The doc at work looked at me like I was insane when I told her. So, due to arm & shoulder pain , I have to really be careful for a while. I'm hoping I didn't actually tear the rotater cuff, just a strain. It's getting better slowly, so we'll see. I'll be running out to pick up some 3 pound weights this week. :D

[sparky]

i think this is apropos!

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That's a great clip, and the whole episode was fanatstic - especially the end at the reunion when Suzanne gives a speech.

[DrummerDeanna]

Day two of 2007 - went to the gym. I'm doing good :laugh:

I'm now just waiting for the mad influx of people to arrive at the gym - which will most likely piss me off. The only bright side is they'll all go away within a month and us regulars can reclaim our territory :laugh:

We have a nice rythym going now with apartment gym regulars...once in a while a stray gym goer screws things up - but it's mostly fine...

Of course I'm already two days behind the start of reading 8 weeks to optimum health....but it's still on my agenda :nod:

[HejiraNYC]

Day two of 2007 - went to the gym. I'm doing good :laugh:

I'm now just waiting for the mad influx of people to arrive at the gym - which will most likely piss me off. The only bright side is they'll all go away within a month and us regulars can reclaim our territory :laugh:

We have a nice rythym going now with apartment gym regulars...once in a while a stray gym goer screws things up - but it's mostly fine...

Of course I'm already two days behind the start of reading 8 weeks to optimum health....but it's still on my agenda :nod:

Yes, the first gym day after New Years Day is brutal. I just look around and think I won't be seeing 3/4 of these bitches in two months. :lol:

[SuzeQuze]

Yes, the first gym day after New Years Day is brutal. I just look around and think I won't be seeing 3/4 of these bitches in two months. :lol:

Dammit I forgot all about this. Might as well work a little late tonite so I don't hit the rush!

[DrummerDeanna]

Dammit I forgot all about this. Might as well work a little late tonite so I don't hit the rush!

Mine was empty - two other regulars popped up as I was leaving...I was expecting the rush to hit today - but I'm still not optimistic that I'm out of the woods...but maybe apartment gyms are different than public ones...

Good gravy I hope so!

[skcin]

YES! :thumbsup: I gained a total of...............1 POUND! Over the past month of holiday food & drink! That's it!WOOHOO!

:blob1: :blob2: :blob1:

I even ran this morning. :cool: It's way better while listening to music.

My new goal is to lose 10 more pounds.

[DrummerDeanna]

YES! :thumbsup: I gained a total of...............1 POUND! Over the past month of holiday food & drink! That's it!WOOHOO!

:blob1: :blob2: :blob1:

I even ran this morning. :cool: It's way better while listening to music.

My new goal is to lose 10 more pounds.

Right on!!! And good luck with the new goal....isn't exercise with an mp3 player wonderful? The time just melts away...I love it...

The New Year's gym rush sort of started today - this chick DROVE to the gym at our apartment building. DROVE. It's not a big apartment complex...at all....she seems serious :rolleyes: then she stole my machine. But she only lasted a few minutes - so I got the machine anyway :D

[skcin]

The New Year's gym rush sort of started today - this chick DROVE to the gym at our apartment building. DROVE. It's not a big apartment complex...at all....she seems serious :rolleyes: then she stole my machine. But she only lasted a few minutes - so I got the machine anyway :D


Bitch. :cool: Good thing she won't be there long.

[SuzeQuze]

Right on!!! And good luck with the new goal....isn't exercise with an mp3 player wonderful? The time just melts away...I love it...

The New Year's gym rush sort of started today - this chick DROVE to the gym at our apartment building. DROVE. It's not a big apartment complex...at all....she seems serious :rolleyes: then she stole my machine. But she only lasted a few minutes - so I got the machine anyway :D

:lol: Drove to the gym in her apartment complex, that's a good one. My gym was packed as I suspected but was even worse than I thought it would be at 7:00 :rolleyes:. I got everything done except my lateral abdominal muscles. Big whoop. I hope the newbies have already quit! That's terrible. Okay, some of them. :laugh:

I added 10 minutes to my cardio for this year so I'm at 40 min. I keep trying to tell myself it's not that long and is no big deal. I seem to get easily overwhelmed by adding stuff. But seriously, it's 10 minutes. I can handle 10 minutes of just about anything!

[DrummerDeanna]

:lol: Drove to the gym in her apartment complex, that's a good one. My gym was packed as I suspected but was even worse than I thought it would be at 7:00 :rolleyes:. I got everything done except my lateral abdominal muscles. Big whoop. I hope the newbies have already quit! That's terrible. Okay, some of them. :laugh:

I added 10 minutes to my cardio for this year so I'm at 40 min. I keep trying to tell myself it's not that long and is no big deal. I seem to get easily overwhelmed by adding stuff. But seriously, it's 10 minutes. I can handle 10 minutes of just about anything!

yeah....I saw her pull up (I was on a bike - that's my thing - I do 30 min. on one machine, 15 on another)...and when she came into the gym I almost started laughing.

I added 15 to my cardio a while back, at first I too was overwhelmed..now it's nothing....it really flies by....you'll get used to it :nod:

[HejiraNYC]

The New Year's gym rush sort of started today - this chick DROVE to the gym at our apartment building. DROVE. It's not a big apartment complex...at all....she seems serious :rolleyes:

That's as ridiculous as seeing the gym bunny outside of the gym yapping on the phone with a stanky ol' cigarette dangling from his/her mouth. I mean, what's the point of working on your cardiovascular health, when you are immediately destroying it afterwards? :shrug:

[skcin]

That's as ridiculous as seeing the gym bunny outside of the gym yapping on the phone with a stanky ol' cigarette dangling from his/her mouth. I mean, what's the point of working on your cardiovascular health, when you are immediately destroying it afterwards? :shrug:

Dunno. Ask Sparky. :lol:

[amber]

That's as ridiculous as seeing the gym bunny outside of the gym yapping on the phone with a stanky ol' cigarette dangling from his/her mouth. I mean, what's the point of working on your cardiovascular health, when you are immediately destroying it afterwards? :shrug:

The point is to look skinny and hot when you go out drinking and smoking. :wavey: Speaking as a former gym bunny who lit up right when she got out of two hours at the gym...

[DrummerDeanna]

That's as ridiculous as seeing the gym bunny outside of the gym yapping on the phone with a stanky ol' cigarette dangling from his/her mouth. I mean, what's the point of working on your cardiovascular health, when you are immediately destroying it afterwards? :shrug:

Yeah...so after her "workout" she gets her ass back into the truck to drive a few feet back to her apartment. The weather isn't even bad - there is no excuse for that.

And she stole my machine :laugh:

[sparky]

That's as ridiculous as seeing the gym bunny outside of the gym yapping on the phone with a stanky ol' cigarette dangling from his/her mouth. I mean, what's the point of working on your cardiovascular health, when you are immediately destroying it afterwards? :shrug:



Swim a mile, smoke a cigarette.

Works for me.

[SuzeQuze]

I lost 2 lbs over the holidays. I had a dream chocolate is a weight loss food. Maybe there is something to that. :lol: I'm down to 149.5. Something about getting under 150 has me pumped. Maybe it's the boys tongues beginning to wag? ;) :laugh: Now I sound like strand! He's rubbed off on me. :p

[skcin]

^ Yay! :blob1:

[sparky]

Now I sound like strand! He's rubbed off on me. :p

I suggest dry cleaning or Spray n' Wash.

[SuzeQuze]

I suggest dry cleaning or Spray n' Wash.

Or Static Guard? :lol:

[amber]

I lost 2 lbs over the holidays. I had a dream chocolate is a weight loss food. Maybe there is something to that. :lol: I'm down to 149.5. Something about getting under 150 has me pumped. Maybe it's the boys tongues beginning to wag? ;) :laugh: Now I sound like strand! He's rubbed off on me. :p

I thought you were under 150 a long time ago. :confused: how tall are you?

Anyway, congrats. I, too, revel in being under 150. Haven't seen anyone's tongue wag, though. I mean, not any more than before.

[DrummerDeanna]

I lost 2 lbs over the holidays. I had a dream chocolate is a weight loss food. Maybe there is something to that. :lol: I'm down to 149.5. Something about getting under 150 has me pumped. Maybe it's the boys tongues beginning to wag? ;) :laugh: Now I sound like strand! He's rubbed off on me. :p

:blob1:

I can't wait to be under 150...congrats...you're in a "new decade" as they say in Weight Watchers :laugh:

I haven't weighed myself in months...and I'm not going to until my pants stop fitting (in a good way) and my "fat pants" don't count..but I'm thrilled I can't wear those anymore.

I skipped the gym this morning because I had to take Clancy to the vet - but with a Friday and Saturday workout I'll still get 5 days in :)

[skcin]

I woke up this morning in a lot of pain. Guess after 3 weeks off from the "couch to 5K" runnin plan I shouldn't have just started back up where I left off. Ooops. :o

It's just muscle soreness. But it was enough for me to not work out this morning. That, and I feel like hell. Sore throat, "cloudy" head, weak....blah. I hope I can kick this before it develops into real "sick."

[SuzeQuze]

I thought you were under 150 a long time ago. :confused: how tall are you?

Anyway, congrats. I, too, revel in being under 150. Haven't seen anyone's tongue wag, though. I mean, not any more than before.

I'm 5' 6".

[skcin]

I'm 5' 6".

I honeslty thought you were already under 150. I'd guess you for low 140's. :shrug: You look goooooood. :D

[DrummerDeanna]

I honeslty thought you were already under 150. I'd guess you for low 140's. :shrug: You look goooooood. :D

Right...Suze being under 150=goood - you're a good height...

Me? That's still big because I'm 5'1'' :laugh: My saving grace is I carry weight ok - it distributes pretty evenly so I don't have like a huge gut and little legs....though in this last round of weight gain my ass really did get bigger than it's ever been....like Sir Mixalot has become my hero :laugh:

[skcin]

^ That's one thing I'm thankful for. I'm pretty much an hourglass figure. There's a lot of sand in the bottom half of it, but still. :laugh: Plus, the good news is that we're at lower risk for heart disease than people who carry their weight on their top half. :thumbsup:

[DrummerDeanna]

^ That's one thing I'm thankful for. I'm pretty much an hourglass figure. There's a lot of sand in the bottom half of it, but still. :laugh: Plus, the good news is that we're at lower risk for heart disease than people who carry their weight on their top half. :thumbsup:

That IS good news :nod: I have been hearing/reading a lot of things about people with big guts and such - I'm so thankful (more for vanity reasons than health ones) that I've avoided the big gut.

[SuzeQuze]

That IS good news :nod: I have been hearing/reading a lot of things about people with big guts and such - I'm so thankful (more for vanity reasons than health ones) that I've avoided the big gut.

Right on, bootylicious girls rock! :lol:

Since I carry all of my weight in my butt I always look 10 - 15 lbs lighter than I really am. Except maybe from a straight on the butt vantage point. :laugh:

[amber]

I'm 5' 6".

Ohhh. Yeah, I keep being confused by your weight because when I saw you you looked pretty small.
Anyway, carry on with that whole awesome weight loss thing. :wavey:

[JazmenFlowers]

I woke up this morning in a lot of pain. Guess after 3 weeks off from the "couch to 5K" runnin plan I shouldn't have just started back up where I left off. Ooops.
are you bored with that yet? cause I am. I feel like if I could alternate the music I'd be ok.

I've been pretty static...no gain, no loss.

I watched YOU: On A Diet last night and thought about what they talked about all night and this morning I was reading the paper and their book is number one. kinda odd...anyway, their whole thing is to focus on waist and not weight. they say men should be at 35 inches or less and women should be at 32.5 or less to be healthy. they also say if a product has more than 4g of sugar per serving don't eat it. if a product has any type of enriched flour or hydrogenated anything in the first 4 ingredients, don't eat it. I read a ****load about them today, but it's all so confusing. I'm just gonna stick to what I've been doing cause it works. I got The Firm Fat Burning Cardio with resistance band for Xmas that I've been using. I also got a juicer that I'm gonna start using. I only have about 20 pounds left to go! yay. I want it gone by March, but I'm not putting too much pressure on myself.

y'all have all done really good. we are gonna be so svelte for summer!

[goldustsongbird]

y'all have all done really good. we are gonna be so svelte for summer!

Here's hopin'! I don't want to look like **** for my brother's wedding. :mad:

[amber]

are you bored with that yet? cause I am. I feel like if I could alternate the music I'd be ok.

I've been pretty static...no gain, no loss.

I watched YOU: On A Diet last night and thought about what they talked about all night and this morning I was reading the paper and their book is number one. kinda odd...anyway, their whole thing is to focus on waist and not weight. they say men should be at 35 inches or less and women should be at 32.5 or less to be healthy. they also say if a product has more than 4g of sugar per serving don't eat it. if a product has any type of enriched flour or hydrogenated anything in the first 4 ingredients, don't eat it. I read a ****load about them today, but it's all so confusing. I'm just gonna stick to what I've been doing cause it works. I got The Firm Fat Burning Cardio with resistance band for Xmas that I've been using. I also got a juicer that I'm gonna start using. I only have about 20 pounds left to go! yay. I want it gone by March, but I'm not putting too much pressure on myself.

y'all have all done really good. we are gonna be so svelte for summer!

How weird, I was just reading all about that on Oprah.com last night. I mean, I've also seen him on her show before, but only once or twice. I didn't think it was confusing cause I read a thing that said "five foods to drop out of your diet blah blah" and they were just basically sugar, high fructose corn syrup (no more than 4 g. of sugar, like you said) and then anything white. White flour, potatoes, something, chips. Hydrogenated oil. Which of course I already knew. It's hella hard to not eat sugar and white flour, but not impossible. Did you see the thing about psyllium seed husks in smoothies? They are fibrous and fill you up. I guess I'm pretty practiced at reading labels and figuring out bad ingredients already.

Anywhoo, you look great, I could see the difference in your face. If you only have 20 lbs left, that is awesome! Sounds like whatever you are doing is working pretty well. I have an end of March goal for my 15 lbs, too, but of course that is 'cause of Vegas....:D I have an absolute goal of summer, naturally - what with my friend and her big new boobs, tummy tuck, and size 2 legs...:p (I know, I'm shallow. About this one thing. We like to be shallow together.)
I'm so glad that you've lost so much, I know how hard you were trying. Or at least how much you wanted it. :angel:

[JazmenFlowers]

How weird, I was just reading all about that on Oprah.com last night. I mean, I've also seen him on her show before, but only once or twice. I didn't think it was confusing cause I read a thing that said "five foods to drop out of your diet blah blah" and they were just basically sugar, high fructose corn syrup (no more than 4 g. of sugar, like you said) and then anything white. White flour, potatoes, something, chips. Hydrogenated oil. Which of course I already knew. It's hella hard to not eat sugar and white flour, but not impossible. Did you see the thing about psyllium seed husks in smoothies? They are fibrous and fill you up. I guess I'm pretty practiced at reading labels and figuring out bad ingredients already.

Anywhoo, you look great, I could see the difference in your face. If you only have 20 lbs left, that is awesome! Sounds like whatever you are doing is working pretty well. I have an end of March goal for my 15 lbs, too, but of course that is 'cause of Vegas....:D I have an absolute goal of summer, naturally - what with my friend and her big new boobs, tummy tuck, and size 2 legs...:p (I know, I'm shallow. About this one thing. We like to be shallow together.)
I'm so glad that you've lost so much, I know how hard you were trying. Or at least how much you wanted it. :angel:
I didn't mean it was confusing as in the information was confusing. what I should have said was I confused myself. that's probably more accurate.

thanks for saying I look great. I wish my cheekbones were more prominent and that I had more of an actual jawline...hell, I hate my profile alltogether. anyway, no one's perfect. if I can lose 20 pounds I will be happy beyond belief. I'll be the size I was in college. and then I just have to not let myself go again.

we'll all get there bitches.

[SuzeQuze]

I didn't mean it was confusing as in the information was confusing. what I should have said was I confused myself. that's probably more accurate.

thanks for saying I look great. I wish my cheekbones were more prominent and that I had more of an actual jawline...hell, I hate my profile alltogether. anyway, no one's perfect. if I can lose 20 pounds I will be happy beyond belief. I'll be the size I was in college. and then I just have to not let myself go again.

we'll all get there bitches.


Yeah we'll get there. Amber, I'm up to 100 lbs working my calves. Are you proud? :lol: I just went up again on all of my weights and am getting strong. I really love that feeling so much. I just wish my boobs would stop shrinking now. Ass, you go ahead and shrink though. Goddammit.

[sparky]

Swam a mile last night in the rain. It was awesome. Water was hotter than the air so it was steaming. 2nd mile of the week. Hope to do 2 more.
All of this isn't really helping matters anyway, though. I think it is just keeping my head above guttage. Between now and Wed. I have 2 dinners, a small party, and a hockey game. Swimming a few miles is merely sparkbloat preventon.
Finally after the 10th, the holiday/birthday food death march will be over and
I can get back on track. Sheesh. Been eating like a pig and drinking like a whore for weeks.:(:lol:

[amber]

^^^ I went up a couple lb. this past month or so. I'm 147. :distress:

Yeah we'll get there. Amber, I'm up to 100 lbs working my calves. Are you proud? :lol: I just went up again on all of my weights and am getting strong. I really love that feeling so much. I just wish my boobs would stop shrinking now. Ass, you go ahead and shrink though. Goddammit.

Of course I am! Next time I see you I'll probably have calf envy.
I like small boobs, often they make people look slimmer in general. I also like the athletic look, and of course small boobs goes with that.

[SuzeQuze]

^^^ I went up a couple lb. this past month or so. I'm 147. :distress:



Of course I am! Next time I see you I'll probably have calf envy.
I like small boobs, often they make people look slimmer in general. I also like the athletic look, and of course small boobs goes with that.

The holidaze will do that, they'll be off in no time.

I had to put the weight UP on the calf machine today after this guy got off it. I think he had calf envy. :lol:

[amber]

The holidaze will do that, they'll be off in no time.

I had to put the weight UP on the calf machine today after this guy got off it. I think he had calf envy. :lol:

hehehehe. 100 lbs is a lot. I think. It's been a long time since I was in a gym.

I hope the weight will be off. It has been so hard to exercise excessively, my legs usually hurt so bad. They feel okay today, though, and it is sunny, so I'm trying to convince myself to do the big hill hike. Yep, I'll be leaving any minute now. Mmmhmm. Here I go.

I can't wait to get a gym membership again, and have access to no/low impact exercises, and a sauna.

[SuzeQuze]

hehehehe. 100 lbs is a lot. I think. It's been a long time since I was in a gym.

I hope the weight will be off. It has been so hard to exercise excessively, my legs usually hurt so bad. They feel okay today, though, and it is sunny, so I'm trying to convince myself to do the big hill hike. Yep, I'll be leaving any minute now. Mmmhmm. Here I go.

I can't wait to get a gym membership again, and have access to no/low impact exercises, and a sauna.

Well I started at 40lbs so it is a lot for me I think. I love having the gym membership, for me it is basically a prescription because I have to go to feel well, mentally. Now I walk in and and think, "This is my f*cking gym." :lol:

[skcin]

I'm supposed to be getting a free membership to the gym here as a perk for being employed by the reacreation dept. as a CPR instructor. They're supposed to be getting more cardio equipment & expanding, so here's hoping - I often had to wait for a machine before because it was so crowded.

[carrie721]

I'm supposed to be getting a free membership to the gym here as a perk for being employed by the reacreation dept. as a CPR instructor. They're supposed to be getting more cardio equipment & expanding, so here's hoping - I often had to wait for a machine before because it was so crowded.

woohoo! sweet shiz.

i haven't been the the gym in a couple days, and i can totally feel it. more mentally than physically ... ughhh. going this eve for sure.

[skcin]

^ I could only manage 20 minutes on the elliptical this morning. Still kind of sick. :(

[carrie721]

^ I could only manage 20 minutes on the elliptical this morning. Still kind of sick. :(

is it a resp. illness? that sucks, when you're sick, and you know you can normally go much longer, but your lungs/whatever hold you back. hope you feel better soon. :angel:

[skcin]

^ Yeah, pretty much. It started as a random odd cough, then Thursday I felt like hell - headache, cough, post nasal drip, really sore throat. By Sat I was feeling a bit better, then yesterday I lost my voice.

This morning I still had a sore throat, laryngitis & some shortness of breath along with the annoying throat clearing/cough. I'm OK, I sound worse than I feel. Now it's more annoying than anything.

Salt water gargles, green tea & honey, extra Vitamin C, lots of water, trying to rest.

[DrummerDeanna]

^

Hell at least you got SOME cardio in - when I'm sick I don't do ****. Nothing...but I also don't eat a whole lot either...I just sleep...a lot.

I haven't been the gym since Friday (took the weekend off) but meant to go back this morning, didn't make it - I was having amazing and weird dreams and just wanted to sleep more so I did...and had great dreams...

Sooo...I'm going to the gym this evening...it'll be fine.

And I'm also pleased to report that I am feeling/seeing slight results - mostly in that I was able to fit into and look good in a pair of pants from Target which NEVER happens...:D I'm excited.

[carrie721]

^ Yeah, pretty much. It started as a random odd cough, then Thursday I felt like hell - headache, cough, post nasal drip, really sore throat. By Sat I was feeling a bit better, then yesterday I lost my voice.

This morning I still had a sore throat, laryngitis & some shortness of breath along with the annoying throat clearing/cough. I'm OK, I sound worse than I feel. Now it's more annoying than anything.

Salt water gargles, green tea & honey, extra Vitamin C, lots of water, trying to rest.

yeah, it totally gets old after a while, doesn't it? i get all, "i'm sooooo over this cough" but that usually doesn't make me any less sick. :laugh:

oh, in other news, i totally just checked myself out in the mirror and was like, "i look freaking good from the waist up!" go me. my boobs look awesome (read: smaller) and my shoulders look good. w00t!

[skcin]

^ You hot bitch. :cool:

[SuzeQuze]

^ That's right, rock the new bod!

[carrie721]

^ You hot bitch. :cool:

^ That's right, rock the new bod!

you know it. :D

[JazmenFlowers]

yeah, it totally gets old after a while, doesn't it? i get all, "i'm sooooo over this cough" but that usually doesn't make me any less sick. :laugh:

oh, in other news, i totally just checked myself out in the mirror and was like, "i look freaking good from the waist up!" go me. my boobs look awesome (read: smaller) and my shoulders look good. w00t!
speaking of wicked reactions to self.

I was trying to pop my elbow (gross, I know) and I noticed a little more definition in my bicep. and absolutely no jiggle whatsoever. I didn't have much to start with, but now my arms are more toned. hot. :D

[amber]

^^^^
Wait, no giggle? :lol: :lol: So, you used to laugh when you saw your arms, but now that they're so hot, you don't?


oh, in other news, i totally just checked myself out in the mirror and was like, "i look freaking good from the waist up!" go me. my boobs look awesome (read: smaller) and my shoulders look good. w00t!

Which is pretty much the reason why my "full length mirror" is really only a half length mirror, showing only from my head to my hips...
:laugh:

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^^
Wait, no giggle? :lol: :lol: So, you used to laugh when you saw your arms, but now that they're so hot, you don't?
omg. I can't believe I did that. hello...

ho, you know what I meant. :laugh:

[amber]

omg. I can't believe I did that. hello...

ho, you know what I meant. :laugh:

and the edit is where? :xoxo:

[JazmenFlowers]

and the edit is where? :xoxo:
omg x 2.

lol.

[amber]

omg x 2.

lol.

Okay, I can now sleep tonight. *whew!*

[JazmenFlowers]

Okay, I can now sleep tonight. *whew!*
only you.

and me...I'm the same way. had I realized I did that in the middle of the night, I would've probably broken my neck to fix it before anyone else saw it.

[amber]

only you.

and me...I'm the same way. had I realized I did that in the middle of the night, I would've probably broken my neck to fix it before anyone else saw it.

*sigh*. We need cocktails.

[JazmenFlowers]

*sigh*. We need cocktails.
adult beverage you say?

sounds good to me.

[amber]

adult beverage

:laugh: :laugh:

Yeah, slide one down the bar to me, too. It's on you. Thx. :wavey:

[carrie721]

Which is pretty much the reason why my "full length mirror" is really only a half length mirror, showing only from my head to my hips...
:laugh:

exactly. i have no "true" full length mirror, and i don't plan on getting one anytime soon. :angel: :laugh:

[amber]

exactly. i have no "true" full length mirror, and i don't plan on getting one anytime soon. :angel: :laugh:

Yup, as long as the top looks alright to me, I don't care what is going on with the parts I can't see.

On an actual fitness related note, I did a whole hour of Yoga this evening, non stop. I really have not been able to do that comfortably in a very long time. I usually only do a half hour-ish.
Perhaps though I still go on smoking binges, my time otherwise when I make a point not to smoke is actually having benefit. :p

[skcin]

^ Wow, an hour? That's a long time. For me, anyway.

I was able to do 30 minutes of cardio this morning, so I'm slowly getting back to normal. :thumbsup:

[JazmenFlowers]

I did "The Firm" workout with resistance band for 30 minutes last night and today I'm feeling it in my ass and obliques...which is nice to know I actually worked those parts. Tonight, it's back on the treadmill.

[amber]

^^^^
Yes, the sore ass, the greatest of all workout sorenesses.

My friend does "Slim in 6" and she says it works good if you do it. It must, she dropped weight like a hot potato.

^ Wow, an hour? That's a long time. For me, anyway.

I was able to do 30 minutes of cardio this morning, so I'm slowly getting back to normal. :thumbsup:

I'm glad you're not still almost kinda sick. :woohoo:

I assumed the yoga class you were going to was an hour. I imagine your lungs are fine, is it usually just too boring to do yoga for an hour? :laugh:

[carrie721]

i'm thinking about joining peertrainer.com. anyone heard of it? here's a video about it:

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[SuzeQuze]

i'm thinking about joining peertrainer.com. anyone heard of it? here's a video about it:

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I haven't heard of it but I think that's great. Honestly the threads here have helped with my motivation. I can't imagine it would be a bad thing to join up with that group.

That chick lost 90 lbs? She doesn't have any saggy skin so she either lost it gradually or already had the surgery. Well she said it took 3 years so she probably did it the right way. Holy crap.

[carrie721]

I haven't heard of it but I think that's great. Honestly the threads here have helped with my motivation. I can't imagine it would be a bad thing to join up with that group.

That chick lost 90 lbs? She doesn't have any saggy skin so she either lost it gradually or already had the surgery. Well she said it took 3 years so she probably did it the right way. Holy crap.

i know, i was really inspired by how she looks b/c that is how much i have to lose, total. i've been worried since the beginning about saggy skin and shiz, so i feel better about it now.

i just joined a group @ peertrainer called "dykes downsizing." :laugh:

[SuzeQuze]

i know, i was really inspired by how she looks b/c that is how much i have to lose, total. i've been worried since the beginning about saggy skin and shiz, so i feel better about it now.

i just joined a group @ peertrainer called "dykes downsizing." :laugh:

Nice. Did you create the group? :laugh:

[carrie721]

Nice. Did you create the group? :laugh:

lol, shockingly, no. i actually can't stand the word "dyke" but in this context it's funny. :laugh:

[skcin]

^^^^
Yes, the sore ass, the greatest of all workout sorenesses.

My friend does "Slim in 6" and she says it works good if you do it. It must, she dropped weight like a hot potato.



I'm glad you're not still almost kinda sick. :woohoo:

I assumed the yoga class you were going to was an hour. I imagine your lungs are fine, is it usually just too boring to do yoga for an hour? :laugh:


What's Slim in 6?

I love hot potatoes.

The class is over, not sure if they'll do another one next semester. But it was only about 40 minutes.

[SuzeQuze]

lol, shockingly, no. i actually can't stand the word "dyke" but in this context it's funny. :laugh:

Incidentally, that b*tch does not need to lose 10 lbs IMO. :mad: If she does then I need to lose 30. I mean really.

Could've been Lesbians Losing. But that doesn't have as "positive" a connotation. :D :lol: No one likes to lose. Except weight.

[carrie721]

Incidentally, that b*tch does not need to lose 10 lbs IMO. :mad: If she does then I need to lose 30. I mean really.

i was just reading her blog, and she's at 155-ish. i don't know how tall she is, but maybe she wants to be down 10 pounds to be at her ideal BMI? who knows. my dream goal is 130 but i will be happy/healthy at 140.

Could've been Lesbians Losing. But that doesn't have as "positive" a connotation. :D :lol: No one likes to lose. Except weight.

hahaha. so true.

i feel like a total glutton ... i've missed several days at the gym. i was on my way out the door last night at 8:30 and realized i couldn't find my wallet. searched and searched, but by the time i found it, it was almost 10, which is when they close. fark.

[SuzeQuze]

i was just reading her blog, and she's at 155-ish. i don't know how tall she is, but maybe she wants to be down 10 pounds to be at her ideal BMI? who knows. my dream goal is 130 but i will be happy/healthy at 140.



hahaha. so true.

i feel like a total glutton ... i've missed several days at the gym. i was on my way out the door last night at 8:30 and realized i couldn't find my wallet. searched and searched, but by the time i found it, it was almost 10, which is when they close. fark.

Oh okay, she looked smaller than that.

I hate when I can't get out of my own way like that (losing wallet). I just laugh at myself at this point cuz I know it'll never change. I'm always losing crap!

[carrie721]

Oh okay, she looked smaller than that.

I hate when I can't get out of my own way like that (losing wallet). I just laugh at myself at this point cuz I know it'll never change. I'm always losing crap!

oh girl, you have no idea. i once lost my keys (with my jump drive on them, and my work keys, and keys to the houses i regularly housesit) for 4 months!!! luckily i was smart enough to write my email addy on my jump drive and someone finally emailed me. i lose things like it's my job. :laugh:

[SuzeQuze]

oh girl, you have no idea. i once lost my keys (with my jump drive on them, and my work keys, and keys to the houses i regularly housesit) for 4 months!!! luckily i was smart enough to write my email addy on my jump drive and someone finally emailed me. i lose things like it's my job. :laugh:

I have no idea where my work ID badge is. It's such a pain cuz I need it to get onto my floor since it has a keycard on it. Son of a... :mad:

[carrie721]

I have no idea where my work ID badge is. It's such a pain cuz I need it to get onto my floor since it has a keycard on it. Son of a... :mad:

uh oh! :shocked: have you had it at all today?

[SuzeQuze]

uh oh! :shocked: have you had it at all today?

Not since last week. :laugh:

[amber]

What's Slim in 6?

I love hot potatoes.

The class is over, not sure if they'll do another one next semester. But it was only about 40 minutes.

A series of 3 different workout videos. There are other things involved, but basically it is the videos. I had to look it up online, so I don't know that much. They are progressively longer and more difficult (the videos).

Yes, hot potatoes are good, I think that is why you have to drop them to lose weight.

[JazmenFlowers]

I just walked my 2.5 miles and was able to job for 10 straight minutes for the first time in a LONG time. yay.

[amber]

I just walked my 2.5 miles and was able to job for 10 straight minutes for the first time in a LONG time. yay.

:woohoo: :woohoo: :blob2:

Looks like we got some breathing milestones up in this thread right now!
Jogging is fun, I always do a little on my hill hike, just to make it more snazzy.

I walked to work and back (25 mins ea. way, fast, naturally) then when I got home I did 15 minutes on my stepper thing (you can only do 15 minutes at once on it, due to friction heat, but it has arm pully things on it, so it's a good little workout).

I'm going to do that hour yoga tape again tonight, because last night while doing it I had a breakthrough with my injured leg.

[skcin]

I was able to do 40 minutes on the eliptical last night without much difficulty. I think I went just over 3 miles.

My friend got me an exercise ball for Christmas. I've tried it once & so far, I hate it. :laugh: I don't think I'm cooridnated & balanced enough to use it.

[SuzeQuze]

uh oh! :shocked: have you had it at all today?

I found it in my coat pocket. :rolleyes:

[SuzeQuze]

I was able to do 40 minutes on the eliptical last night without much difficulty. I think I went just over 3 miles.

My friend got me an exercise ball for Christmas. I've tried it once & so far, I hate it. :laugh: I don't think I'm cooridnated & balanced enough to use it.

That's exactly what it helps with. But I don't use them either, although I think I'm going to start doing ab work on one.

I'm down to 148.5 so 14lbs all together. But this is VERY gradual, like over 13 mos. Which means it is probably sustainable. I got some new, smaller clothes at Banana Republic on Sat, including a black and white animal print strapless top. Oh yesit is animal print and I wore out to get my rock on at the Hypercane show. Dude. :laugh:

[skcin]

^ I see you're talking to yourself again. :p Oh yes you are.

I love you Suze. And I find it very hard to believe that you were over 160. :shrug:

[SuzeQuze]

^ I see you're talking to yourself again. :p Oh yes you are.

I love you Suze. And I find it very hard to believe that you were over 160. :shrug:

I do that a lot, yeah.

Yep, 162.5. You and me both sista. I think I was down to 155 already when I saw you in Vegas though. I'm just saying my weight out loud cuz I carried so much shame about it for so long but it's not worth it.

[skcin]

^ Nothing to be ashamed of at all. You just look like you weight a lot less. Even in Vegas, I would have guessed 145 tops.

[JazmenFlowers]

I have been having serious dizzy spells all day. I thought at first that it's an inner ear infection since I'm prone to those, but then I calculated my daily caloric intake over the past 2 days and I've barely broken 1000. not intentionally, but I for sure need to eat something good tonight. it's like when I move my eyes to the side I get dizzy, stand up...dizzy. and tonight's treadmill night. not gonna be fun.

someone said to me today that I need some new pants as the ones I'm wearing are obviously too big. that made me feel way good, but then I started wondering, do I look stupid? you know how Clinton and Stacy always say you look bigger than you are if your clothes don't fit properly? I'm giving myself 10 more lbs before I buy anything.

[skcin]

^ That's dangerous sweetie. Not the loose pants, the low calories! :p For God's sake eat something decent, especially before you hit the treadmill.

[carrie721]

I found it in my coat pocket. :rolleyes:

yep. sounds like me. :laugh:

I have been having serious dizzy spells all day. I thought at first that it's an inner ear infection since I'm prone to those, but then I calculated my daily caloric intake over the past 2 days and I've barely broken 1000. not intentionally, but I for sure need to eat something good tonight. it's like when I move my eyes to the side I get dizzy, stand up...dizzy. and tonight's treadmill night. not gonna be fun.

someone said to me today that I need some new pants as the ones I'm wearing are obviously too big. that made me feel way good, but then I started wondering, do I look stupid? you know how Clinton and Stacy always say you look bigger than you are if your clothes don't fit properly? I'm giving myself 10 more lbs before I buy anything.

jaz! 1000??? bitch bettah eat! no wonder you've been hungry! i think you should take the night off, honestly. you can always go a little longer next time. take care of yourself. :xoxo:

and don't worry, i'm sure you look fierce.

[amber]

^ That's dangerous sweetie. Not the loose pants, the low calories! :p For God's sake eat something decent, especially before you hit the treadmill.

I beg to differ, I think the loose pants are dangerous as well.

So, Jaz, why don't you just eat a big ol' snackaroo a while before you go to your workout? :shrug: No big, should take care of your dizziness once it digests a bit. If the dizziness is calorie related.

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^
thanks bitches.

like I told Carrie, I've been eating a breakfast bar for breakfast, a Lean Cuisine for lunch, an apple for a snack and then a Lean Cuisine for dinner with a 1/4 cup of no sugar pudding for dessert, not realizing the LC's were only like 260 calories each. I just, for some reason, haven't been looking. but I'm taking the night off from the treadmill and I'm gonna eat some chicken and a salad or something.

I hope the dizziness is food-related and not something else. what else could it be? hopefully not the effin flu. is dizziness a symptom of the flu? :distress:

[amber]

^^^
thanks bitches.

like I told Carrie, I've been eating a breakfast bar for breakfast, a Lean Cuisine for lunch, an apple for a snack and then a Lean Cuisine for dinner with a 1/4 cup of no sugar pudding for dessert, not realizing the LC's were only like 260 calories each. I just, for some reason, haven't been looking. but I'm taking the night off from the treadmill and I'm gonna eat some chicken and a salad or something.

I hope the dizziness is food-related and not something else. what else could it be? hopefully not the effin flu. is dizziness a symptom of the flu? :distress:

Brain tumor, most likely. :shrug:











:laugh: Naw. It's probably the food. glad you are having chicken, sounds like you aren't getting much protein. :xoxo:

[carrie721]

go carrie, go carrie.

went to tarzhay today to get new workout pants, because my other ones were falling off my azz. so that was good, but what was also good was that i found a sweet pair for $7.48! sweet mother. also got one of bra/tank things by champion (not the lame camis they have, this one is heavy duty) to keep all my bizzness where it belongs. of course, i have to also wear a bra under it, but it definitely works. and then i kicked azz at the gym. look out.

:wavey:

[SuzeQuze]

yep. sounds like me. :laugh:
...

In my defense I don't wear that coat often.

But yeah, I have worn it since the ID was "lost" in the pocket.

Jaz Lean Cuisine is not for active people! Unless you eat 2. :lol:

[SuzeQuze]

go carrie, go carrie.

went to tarzhay today to get new workout pants, because my other ones were falling off my azz. so that was good, but what was also good was that i found a sweet pair for $7.48! sweet mother. also got one of bra/tank things by champion (not the lame camis they have, this one is heavy duty) to keep all my bizzness where it belongs. of course, i have to also wear a bra under it, but it definitely works. and then i kicked azz at the gym. look out.

:wavey:

I love those bras. But I don't need to double up, bless your heart (rack). :lol: Isn't getting new cool (smaller) workout clothes awesome? Before Christmas I paid retail for these Champion pants at Target just because I'm worth it. But seriously, they fit so well and look great. Although they're probly on the half off rack now. :rolleyes: :laugh:

[amber]

go carrie, go carrie.

went to tarzhay today to get new workout pants, because my other ones were falling off my azz. so that was good, but what was also good was that i found a sweet pair for $7.48! sweet mother. also got one of bra/tank things by champion (not the lame camis they have, this one is heavy duty) to keep all my bizzness where it belongs. of course, i have to also wear a bra under it, but it definitely works. and then i kicked azz at the gym. look out.

:wavey:

clothing, bargains, weight loss, the gym - this story has it all. :cool:

[SuzeQuze]

clothing, bargains, weight loss, the gym - this story has it all. :cool:

don't forget the hot b*tch in the middle of it all! ;)

[SuzeQuze]

Don't ever look at your naked ass in a full-length mirror. :rolleyes:

[amber]

Don't ever look at your naked ass in a full-length mirror. :rolleyes:

But that cuts my leisure/hobby activities in half!!

[sparky]

Don't ever look at your naked ass in a full-length mirror. :rolleyes:


That's crucial research!

[HejiraNYC]

Don't ever look at your naked ass in a full-length mirror. :rolleyes:

I can't twist my neck that far. :distress: It's probably all of the best... not my best bodypart for sure. :eek:

[SuzeQuze]

That's crucial research!

Tell it to my cosmetic surgeon!

[carrie721]

I love those bras. But I don't need to double up, bless your heart (rack). :lol: Isn't getting new cool (smaller) workout clothes awesome? Before Christmas I paid retail for these Champion pants at Target just because I'm worth it. But seriously, they fit so well and look great. Although they're probly on the half off rack now. :rolleyes: :laugh:

i'm totally in love with it! and yes, bless my rack ... :lol: champion shiz is expensive but i'm beginning to think it's worth it in the long run ... i've been buying prospirit pants and they suck so bad. they're useful for yoga/pilates, but for anything high-intensity, i can't get them to stay on my ass. those poor people on the machines behind me. :distress: :laugh:

clothing, bargains, weight loss, the gym - this story has it all. :cool:

totally! it was a good evening. can't wait to rock the casbah again tonight.

don't forget the hot b*tch in the middle of it all! ;)

fukc yeah. :cool:

[carrie721]

my new favorite website:

www.whfoods.com

awesome.

:wavey:

[skcin]

^ I just skimmed the site, but it look very cool. :nod: Congrats on the pants, btw. I love a bargain, esp when it's something that you really need and/or looks great on you.

Jaz - that does NOT seem to be enough calories for you. Sesly. :( Scary low. I worry, bubulah. You need more food, me thinks. And I concur with Amber, def. more protein. I mean, the LC dinners are great, but it's usually only 1 meat serving & a veggie serving. And I love apples, but personally they make me way more hungry (I guess it's the glycemic index & all that.) I beg you to AT LEAST eat some more veggies along with your dinners, and an orange or banana once on a while. Please. For me. :xoxo: Some egg whites, perhaps? Weight Watchers bagel or English Muffin? Hmm?

Couple things. #1 - I found this delicious hummus at the grocery store. I was very skeptical, because I've tried hummus a couple times in the past & it sucked. :laugh: But Tribal Roasted Red Pepper Hummus is f*cking tasty. :nod: I've been dipping pretzels in it (that's about all I have in the house snack-wise right now) but I'm sure it would be awesome as a sandwich/wrap condiment too, as well as with some sort of crappy healthy whole wheat crackers or something. Exciting.

#2 - I did a full 30 (was it 40?) minutes on the elliptical Friday. Took yesterday off, partially because I was busy (read: active) early in the day & partially because I got really lazy at night & couldn't tear myself off the couch & away from the 50 home improvement/design shows that were on. :rolleyes: Today, I kicked ass. Did a full 45 MINUTES (my longest ever!) on the elliptical, then did a good 20 minutes of light weights/resistance & ab exercises. It felt great. The elliptical claims I burned about 440 calories, so hopefully that will make up for some of the beer I've decided to drink tonight. :D

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^
if not for me, then, do it for the world, right?

[SuzeQuze]

Well I kicked my ass at the gym today and did an hour of cardio since I skipped the past 2 days. Then I did legs and abs. It felt great but I'm pretty tired now!

[JazmenFlowers]

^^^
awesome. I'm about to do my Abs of Steel tape. (how 1993 is that?)

I also just watched Bob Greene on Oprah. I love him. he has a new book and website, thebestlife.com

[SuzeQuze]

^^^
awesome. I'm about to do my Abs of Steel tape. (how 1993 is that?)

I also just watched Bob Greene on Oprah. I love him. he has a new book and website, thebestlife.com

I watched some of that too. The end actually. Oprah does not let him get a word in! :laugh: Rock those abs!

[amber]

^^^^^

Sweet.

I did my two hour cardio thing yesterday. Not Saturday, though, like last week. I think I'll only do it both weekend days every other week, it is pretty taxing. Unless I feel like it, of course. My resolution has held for 2 weeks so far, to do cardio, yoga, and my weights course all at least 4 times per week.