Tiny little problem in Stevie's schpiel this tour

Ghost_Tracker · #1 03-28-2011, 05:00 AM

*ahem*

Okay first of all, just to be clear, I love her to death; I'm THRILLED she's touring.
I was at the concert at MSG Saturday night and I LOVED it and I plan to write a
very positive review when I get the chance.

Having said that - Sorry but I have to call bullsh*t when I hear it.
Unless my memory's greatly failing me here or I totally misheard, Stevie's
talking about how vastly Trouble in Shangri-la was affected by 9/11.
As I'm sure most of you know - well, just look on Nicksfix - the release
date was May of 2011.

Uhm - Has she HEARD of the Internet?

DarkUponLight · #2 03-28-2011, 05:17 AM

I think she's referring to the TISL TOUR. She was in NYC when 9/11 happened & a show or two was cancelled because of it. And even though she carried on with the tour afterwards, I think the whole experience of 9/11 kinda ruined everything in terms of her enjoying TISL.

TrueFaith77 · #3 03-28-2011, 05:47 AM

Right and she said that the album kinda disappeared because of 9/11, so "Love Is" disappeared with it.

jellyman10 · #4 03-28-2011, 05:50 AM

Yes, it's the tour she means.

Ghost_Tracker · #5 03-28-2011, 07:21 AM

Oh, okay then. Thanks for clearing that up,
I was a little bothered by it.

crtrofthenight · #6 03-28-2011, 09:17 AM

Love is wasn't in the set list from day one of the tour. Sorry but I don't think it was going to be anyway.

HejiraNYC · #7 03-28-2011, 09:49 AM

Mama is clearly deluded. The reason why "Love Is" disappeared is because she didn't like the way it turned out and she probably tried to forget about its existence. It was never part of the setlist. It does annoy me that she keeps bringing up 9/11 like she is some kind of victim of the experience. You know who probably has a legitimate claim to whine about 9/11? Mariah Carey. Her album Glitter came out on 9/11, and it turned out to be her first official flop. Any hype or news about its release was quickly buried and forgotten. Admittedly, the album itself is not bad at all; but the combination of 9/11 and the so-awful-it's-fun movie Glitter really spelled out its failure. The only saving grace was when the song "Hero" inadvertently became a rallying theme for the fallen firemen and NYPD.

Jondalar · #8 03-28-2011, 09:56 AM

She means the tour. Everything sorta got sidetracked and she was in New York when all that stuff happened. I think it scared her. 9/11 hurt everything. The economy was fine and everything and then all of sudden 9/11 and everything just started going south. Right after 9/11 happened, is when there were rumours at my job that we were going to be eventually laid off. It scared people. People stopped giving raises.

HejiraNYC · #9 03-28-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

She means the tour. Everything sorta got sidetracked and she was in New York when all that stuff happened. I think it scared her. 9/11 hurt everything. The economy was fine and everything and then all of sudden 9/11 and everything just started going south. Right after 9/11 happened, is when there were rumours at my job that we were going to be eventually laid off. It scared people. People stopped giving raises.

Her schpiel was not about the tour. It was about the song "Love Is" and how it supposedly "disappeared" until she re-discovered the piano demo years later. I'm happy that she has decided to add it to her repertoire, but I do think it's in bad taste to exploit 9/11. Yes, it was a harrowing time for all of us in New York on that date, but it really has nothing to do with TISL or the fate of "Love Is."

olive · #10 03-28-2011, 10:19 AM

we were not with her , I am sure her experience being hold up in her suite at the Waldorf Astoria
was traumatic for her ..

here is her journal entry

http://rockalittle.com/ go to journal 911 0n left

Christopher · #11 03-28-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Her schpiel was not about the tour. It was about the song "Love Is" and how it supposedly "disappeared" until she re-discovered the piano demo years later. I'm happy that she has decided to add it to her repertoire, but I do think it's in bad taste to exploit 9/11. Yes, it was a harrowing time for all of us in New York on that date, but it really has nothing to do with TISL or the fate of "Love Is."

I rarely take anything Stevie says completely literally. I always have to "read between" her lines. In short, I feel Stevie's always tried to convey that TISL disappeared because of how she felt after 9/11. All of a sudden, everything became more real, serious and scary, to the point that any excitement she was feeling about her fabulous new album TISL & tour were no longer important, or the center of attention for her. I remember vividly, that she was very close to wanting to chuck the rest of the TISL tour, and run back home. I recall her recounting conversations with her mother, with Don Henley, and other friends, that were trying to comfort and console her, all the while reminding her it was important to charge on. But any enthusiasm she had for the album was gone. She was disillusioned, and the tour became more of a mantra to carry on.

tabruns · #12 03-28-2011, 10:22 AM

I think Stevie has a point. The album was selling well then everything economically came to a screeching halt after the shock of 9/11. I remember the car companies all had to offer 0% financing to get people buying stuff again. This isn't "exploiting" 9/11, it's stating a fact that the album had been doing well but then stopped along with many things when that event happened.

HejiraNYC · #13 03-28-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tabruns

I think Stevie has a point. The album was selling well then everything economically came to a screeching halt after the shock of 9/11. I remember the car companies all had to offer 0% financing to get people buying stuff again. This isn't "exploiting" 9/11, it's stating a fact that the album had been doing well but then stopped along with many things when that event happened.

If I'm not mistaken, TISL had pretty much fallen off of the charts by 9/11. Again, I'm not saying that Stevie does not have a right to feel horrified and scarred by the whole experience. I'm just saying that she is conflating 9/11 with her performing the song "Love Is," which just doesn't make sense to me. It was never in the setlist then, so what does 9/11 have to do with it? She killed off the song herself.

Jondalar · #14 03-28-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tabruns

I think Stevie has a point. The album was selling well then everything economically came to a screeching halt after the shock of 9/11. I remember the car companies all had to offer 0% financing to get people buying stuff again. This isn't "exploiting" 9/11, it's stating a fact that the album had been doing well but then stopped along with many things when that event happened.

that album still has not sold hardly anything after that year

jellyman10 · #15 03-28-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

If I'm not mistaken, TISL had pretty much fallen off of the charts by 9/11. Again, I'm not saying that Stevie does not have a right to feel horrified and scarred by the whole experience. I'm just saying that she is conflating 9/11 with her performing the song "Love Is," which just doesn't make sense to me. It was never in the setlist then, so what does 9/11 have to do with it? She killed off the song herself.

I didn't hear what she said about Love Is at the concert the other night, but conflation is her absolute stock-in-trade. Honestly, I don't think she has any idea that she does it, and that if she was called on it she'd be amazed at how much her recollection of many, many things departs from empirical evidence.

It's not unique to her, either. I have two sisters and although we all grew up in the same house, you'd never know it to listen to us.