Oh Bette Midler...

[WelshWitchPMD]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

they do dont they? Stevie was warning Britney about her choices.....seems like Britney comes in for her fair share of criticism doesnt she? Course, she's young yet........when she gets to be Stevie's or Bette's age, Im sure she'll have some thoughtful advice for the next up and comers.......wouldnt you think?

I would be very surprised if Brittney will still be around when she gets to be Stevie and Bette's age. She will need a boat load of Ben Gay to be able to do those dance moves.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by WelshWitchPMD

I would be very surprised if Brittney will still be around when she gets to be Stevie and Bette's age. She will need a boat load of Ben Gay to be able to do those dance moves.

Unless she can re-invent herself, a la Madonna!

boatload of BenGay! funny girl!

[DrummerDeanna]

Bette Midler - she may have been wild - I'm sure she partied but she wasn't in the spotlight 24 hours a day - again, these people were able to make their mistakes of youth in a more private manner - and the girl of today DO seem to be a bit more outrageous than the girls of yesterday - there is a scary cultural shift going on that in turn is really making women lose ground in the whole "feminist movement"

I think Brittney's behaviour is attrocious. She a mother for God's sake and has no business being out all night EVERY night - I don't give a rats ass if she has been 'home bound" for two years..that's what happens when you have kids - you have to parent them.

So I think these women who have lived and done the partying are giving good advice - they know what they're talking about - so rather than being hypocrites I think they are just speaking from knowledge - trying to give good and valuable advice to these stupid girls who are making stupid choices in the public eye

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Bette Midler - she may have been wild - I'm sure she partied but she wasn't in the spotlight 24 hours a day - again, these people were able to make their mistakes of youth in a more private manner - and the girl of today DO seem to be a bit more outrageous than the girls of yesterday - there is a scary cultural shift going on that in turn is really making women lose ground in the whole "feminist movement"

I think Brittney's behaviour is attrocious. She a mother for God's sake and has no business being out all night EVERY night - I don't give a rats ass if she has been 'home bound" for two years..that's what happens when you have kids - you have to parent them.

So I think these women who have lived and done the partying are giving good advice - they know what they're talking about - so rather than being hypocrites I think they are just speaking from knowledge - trying to give good and valuable advice to these stupid girls who are making stupid choices in the public eye

as much as I'd like to agree with you, and I think you have a valid point, the stars that are lecturing Britney are KNOWN for outrageous behavior (flashing the audience? and thats just for starters )

it just seems to me that these stars, well-intentioned tho they might be, would have more credibility if they hadnt engaged in outrageous behavior themselves. Or, if they prefaced their remarks with something along the lines of "hey, Ive been wild in my past too, so I know what Im talking about..." Then they would be coming across as giving advice from the "been there/done that" perspective. Thats different.

That said, I do agree that a little underwear goes a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way. Bette's right about that!

[DrummerDeanna]

I don't know -flashing the audience is more of the performance aspect which is not what any of these women have spoken out against (except Stevie who did not enjoy the Brittney/Madonna kiss). But these women are talking specifically about their partying antics...and their complete lack of regard for themselves (flashing to kitty...come on..that's just low and disgusting)...not their performance styles or outrageous behaviour on stage/in rolls...

So had Bette been talking about that maybe I'd agree - but overall I think what Bette Midler said was lighter than most people are taking it - she a funny woman...

And it is sort of sad that these girls make all their mistakes in so public a manner - but it's their choice - there are plenty of upper teen 20-something stars who aren't partying every single night, flashing their goods around and being overall assholeish....so I think Britt, Linds and Paris do have some lessons to learn

Oh and yet again I hate myself for even caring about this issue

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

I don't know -flashing the audience is more of the performance aspect which is not what any of these women have spoken out against (except Stevie who did not enjoy the Brittney/Madonna kiss). But these women are talking specifically about their partying antics...and their complete lack of regard for themselves (flashing to kitty...come on..that's just low and disgusting)...not their performance styles or outrageous behaviour on stage/in rolls...

So had Bette been talking about that maybe I'd agree - but overall I think what Bette Midler said was lighter than most people are taking it - she a funny woman...

And it is sort of sad that these girls make all their mistakes in so public a manner - but it's their choice - there are plenty of upper teen 20-something stars who aren't partying every single night, flashing their goods around and being overall assholeish....so I think Britt, Linds and Paris do have some lessons to learn

Oh and yet again I hate myself for even caring about this issue

well, you do have valid points, as usual. I guess I just was doing my usual "sticking up for the underdog" bit, but yeah, there are some valid complaints about Britney's and Lindsay's and Paris' behavior. Of course, as you mentioned there didnt seem to be the media circus frenzy surrounding the stars/celebs of yesteryear as there is now......I guess we can thank Madonna for that........

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

Oh I'm not saying others points are invalid - I think there are a couple of angles on this issue....

I totally see what y'all are saying - about women who were once wild now saying "don't be" and a woman calling another a slut but telling her, in turn, to be nice

Really the whole thing is ridiculous and I maintain that if I had an endless stream of money coming my way and all fabulous clothes and privelage - I'd probably be right out there partying with 'em

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

^^

Oh I'm not saying others points are invalid - I think there are a couple of angles on this issue....

I totally see what y'all are saying - about women who were once wild now saying "don't be" and a woman calling another a slut but telling her, in turn, to be nice

Really the whole thing is ridiculous and I maintain that if I had an endless stream of money coming my way and all fabulous clothes and privelage - I'd probably be right out there partying with 'em

just as long as ya jet over and get ME, ok?

[DrummerDeanna]

Dude....if all us Ledgies got together to party at some hot spot we'd put those baby girls to shame