excuse my extra shipperness.....(pet names)

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by bluefox4000

People who think Stevie and Lindsey were meant to be together forever and ever and OMG they totally should get back together........In other words....Complete BS...

That's my best description anyway.

Mick

Hey, guess what? Based on that description even Stevie and Lindsey are shippers!! LOL!

[fumidesigns]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

It's interesting that such concepts as "Shipper," "Birther," "Truther" in which people devote a lot time and energy drawing connections, analyzing information, and tying it together with conjecture always ends in "er"... I wonder when that all started. There's no such term for those who think JFK assassination was an inside job or a conspiracy. It's an interesting, probably 'net-based sociological phenomenon. IT's also interesting how much valuable information "ers" provide despite their interpretations sometimes being coloured by their forgone conclusions.

I love the contribution shippers make to Mac fandom. I don't THINK I am one, but I do read the art from a shipper perspective sometime (e.g., all Lindsey's songs are about Stevie and vice-versa).

just FACT!!!!! anyone that says different is from the debil lol!

[fumidesigns]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

Hey, guess what? Based on that description even Stevie and Lindsey are shippers!! LOL!

well of course they are. that's just the way it is...............and always will be.

[bluefox4000]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

Hey, guess what? Based on that description even Stevie and Lindsey are shippers!! LOL!

Basically....yes

Mick

[TrueFaith77]

There's a mind-blowing Shipper thread on sevenwonders. I forget what it's called. I haven't been to that site in over a year or two, but it made for intense reading! It was in the Lindsey section. Something about a photoshoot or something.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by bluefox4000

People who think Stevie and Lindsey were meant to be together forever and ever and OMG they totally should get back together........In other words....Complete BS...

That's my best description anyway.

Mine, too. But I've decided to not even try to understand it and ignore it as best I can.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Heartboy

I've heard that word so many times being a 'BH, 90210' & 'Buffy' fan!

We used to have endless shipper and noromo (no romance) discussions on the X-Files boards.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

There's a mind-blowing Shipper thread on sevenwonders. I forget what it's called. I haven't been to that site in over a year or two, but it made for intense reading! It was in the Lindsey section. Something about a photoshoot or something.

Oh geez...you had to bring that up!

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bluefox4000

People who think Stevie and Lindsey were meant to be together forever and ever and OMG they totally should get back together........In other words....Complete BS...

That's my best description anyway.

Mick

I don't think it's even a question of thinking they are meant to be together or should get back together. From my perspective, shipperism has always been about looking at the clues and trying to determine whether or not there is a relationship, rather than whether or not you want one in a "they lived happily ever after" manner. On the X-Files, Chris Carter seemingly had nothing better to do with his time than throw bones out for the noromos and shippers to dissect and argue over.

With Stevie and Lindsey, I don't think in terms of romance and I don't think they ever could be together living in a house, sharing recreational activities again. I don't see them doing that.

But I see the ship as just a RELATIONSHIP in all of its forms and permutations, be it sexual or whatever else it is after you've been sharing a stage with the same person for 40 years. They have lived through the culmination of better, worse, richer, poorer, sickness and health and in a way it is a marriage. I think it's fascinating that the core relationship is never going to change no matter what. If one bombed the other's house, other than an angry flare up that lasted a couple of days, I don't really think it would cause a true break in the relationship.

However, to a lesser extent, I think the same could be said of all of the band members, even John and Lindsey. Lindsey and Christine: I don't think he doesn't love her and I don't think he could make her stop loving him -- even though some of his comments in 2003 were especially trying. I always look at the 5 members of FM in terms of a ship.

Michele

[michelej1]

As the lyric changes from Great Pretender, to no great pretenders, I think it could be Mick or Lindsey. The song probably has threads of both, actually.

CAH wrote that no one was fooled by what was going on with Mick and Stevie, even though they tried to keep it a secret. So, they weren't good at pretending.

On the other hand, Stevie and Lindsey never broke up emotionally, even when they weren't having an affair. So, going through a daily band routine and acting as if nothing was there, when it was . . . they were no great pretenders as well.

Michele

[caroline79]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

"Schizophrenic bitch."




.... I jest. 'Angel' has been long rumoured as a shared pet name between the two of them, hasn't it?

Originally Posted by crylove77

And my response to that has always been- how would CAH know what Stevie was writing? Was she looking over her shoulder, stole her journal, what? Really, I think Stevie would sock her one if she got that physically close to her. And even if she did see the lyrics, how does CAH know it was about Mick? Unless Stevie was repeatedly scribbling Mrs. Stevie Fleetwood on the same page or something.

[caroline79]

Originally Posted by fumidesigns

i just threw up in my mouth.................

i mean just knowing that lindsey would have to be the bottom truly tears my heart apart!

Can't...get image...out of....my head!
I need to head on over to the Stevie/Lindsey intimacy thread after that!

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by fumidesigns

i mean just knowing that lindsey would have to be the bottom truly tears my heart apart!

Oh, but maybe not.

[fumidesigns]

Originally Posted by michelej1

As the lyric changes from Great Pretender, to no great pretenders, I think it could be Mick or Lindsey. The song probably has threads of both, actually.

CAH wrote that no one was fooled by what was going on with Mick and Stevie, even though they tried to keep it a secret. So, they weren't good at pretending.

On the other hand, Stevie and Lindsey never broke up emotionally, even when they weren't having an affair. So, going through a daily band routine and acting as if nothing was there, when it was . . . they were no great pretenders as well.

Michele

ooooooooooooooooooooooooh dang! nice michele. well the pictures that mick and stevie took sure didn't make it seem like they were tryna hide much. everytime i think about their affair all i see is that pic of her, i think she's sitting on his lap, maybe they're at a party, and they're laughing. unless she's a 'hop in his lap' type chick........

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by fumidesigns

what i tell you about making me lol at work!!!!!!? omg! i can't wait to read this book! i love it!

Oh i forgot that the funniest part is the way CAH writes about it, it's as if Lindsey were her knight in shining armor spending hours standing up for her against the wrath of Stevie (Stevie grabbed CAH, tightly around the arm, backstage during a concert and warned her: YOU WILL NEVER MARRY LINDSEY!! NEVER!!!!!!).

Could anything have turned Lindsey on more than knowing Stevie felt this way!?

The next day Stevie apologized profusely to CAH. CAH saw it as a victory for herself, rather than recognizing that Lindsey and Stevie had obviously re-established their superior bond and that Stevie no longer saw CAH as a threat. After all... STEVIE WAS RIGHT! Lindsey never did marry CAH.