The Just Thought I'd Share Thread

[holidayroad]

Originally Posted by DefDumbandBlond

JTIS I was watching a tv series called Wiseguy, the episodes with Debbie Harry in it specifically and I don't know why as many times as I've watched them before I didn't notice Mick was in one of the episodes.

I watched those back when they first aired! I loved that version of 'Brite Side' that was played during the end credits at least once on the episodes Debbie was in. It was different than the version on the Def, Dumb, & Blonde album.

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by skcin

It's whatever you'll actually do. I personally need at least 45 minutes on the eliptical 4-5 days a week if I'm trying to get back into shape; 30 min 4-5 days a week to maintain. Work yourself up though - you just started back!

Today, I kept my time the same but did a major increase on my intensity. I ended up sweating more profusely (which I actually LOVE when exercising) but at the end of it all, I saw I covered less ground (not even 2 miles) and burned fewer calories. The mileage I expected but was surprised about the caloric part. I may keep it up this way for a week just to see what happens.

[LikeAWillow]

JTIS-- Today is equal pay day. It marks how far a woman would have to work into 2011 to make the pay that a man in her same position made in 2010.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by LikeAWillow

JTIS-- Today is equal pay day. It marks how far a woman would have to work into 2011 to make the pay that a man in her same position made in 2010.

I am very curious... why do you think, in the 21st century, that a woman makes less than a man for the same job? It defies logic. It seems that most HR departments I've seen are run by women. There are all kinds of legal oversights into pay practices and Equal Employment Opportunity compliance. Do you think there is some kind of dark, corporate underbelly that makes an effort to keep women's pay down? Is there a benefit to paying men higher wages? Although I don't necessarily agree, I think the argument could be made, purely theoretically, that men merit greater pay at jobs that demand greater physical stamina and strength because women would be at a disadvantage physically. But when it comes to white collar/professional/ service type stuff, there really is no plausible case to be made for different pay rates.

[LikeAWillow]

Originally Posted by "http://news.softpedia.com/news/Why-Pay-Differences-Still-Exist-Between-Men-and-Women-179021.shtml"

“We know that women, often working at the same kind of job as men, frequently are not paid as much as men,” explains the lead author of the new study John List, PhD. The work was published by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

“Some of the explanations for the differences contend they are caused by discrimination or by women leaving the workforce to have children and then returning,” the investigator adds.

“Other people have suggested that men are more attracted to competition than women, and that accounts for the differences,” he goes on to say, quoted by PsychCentral.

“When the salary potential was most dependent on competition, men were 94 percent more likely to apply than women,” List explains. This was a general trend among the 6,779 people that were part of the new survey.

One of the main reasons for this could be the fact that women and men respond differently to pay incentives based on competition. These responses that the two genders display may be based on social cues that are inscribed onto them since they are children.

For example, boys tend to be encouraged to be more competitive, whereas girls are more cooperative. This may have repercussions later on in life as well, and the ripples of this “training” may extended into the way each individual acts as an employee.

I don't think it's a mass conspiracy, but I do think that there are underlying societal influences at work. I support the hypothesis that this article proposes that much of the pay discrepancy rests on the way women are socialized to behave. As the article says, we're taught to compromise, not compete. One thing that the article doesn't bring up that I think is worth mentioning, though, is that when women DO compete in a fashion similar to men, they don't receive the same results. This isn't because women don't have the same skills or drive, but it's because studies have shown that men and women alike react poorly to aggressive women in the workplace and positively to aggressive men. The socialization against competitive women runs just as deeply as the socialization that urges women not to compete. So much about our attitudes and perceptions of women and the way they should operate needs to change if the gap is ever going to close.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by LikeAWillow

I don't think it's a mass conspiracy, but I do think that there are underlying societal influences at work. I support the hypothesis that this article proposes that much of the pay discrepancy rests on the way women are socialized to behave. As the article says, we're taught to compromise, not compete. One thing that the article doesn't bring up that I think is worth mentioning, though, is that when women DO compete in a fashion similar to men, they don't receive the same results. This isn't because women don't have the same skills or drive, but it's because studies have shown that men and women alike react poorly to aggressive women in the workplace and positively to aggressive men. The socialization against competitive women runs just as deeply as the socialization that urges women not to compete. So much about our attitudes and perceptions of women and the way they should operate needs to change if the gap is ever going to close.

That reminds me of a line from Joni Mitchell's "Lead Balloon": "An angry man is just... an angry man. An angry woman... bitch!" Having witnessed many women in the workplace over the years, I do notice a tendency for some to overcompensate, i.e., being aggressive in situations that do not warrant that kind of conduct. I often wonder whether such aggression would be tolerated if a man was conducting himself the same way; more times than not, he would be accused of creating a hostile work environment and marched off to HR. I hate to say it, but a lot of women come across inappropriately shrill and rude, thereby sabotaging their own careers, not because they are incapable of performing the job, but because they can be very unpleasant/impossible to work with.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by jannieC

Today, I kept my time the same but did a major increase on my intensity. I ended up sweating more profusely (which I actually LOVE when exercising) but at the end of it all, I saw I covered less ground (not even 2 miles) and burned fewer calories. The mileage I expected but was surprised about the caloric part. I may keep it up this way for a week just to see what happens.

I don't rely on the calorie counter. I think most machines are just basing it mostly on speed, unless it's a state-of-the-art machine. I think if you felt you worked harder than usual, worked up a sweat & were slightly short of breath, you probably got a good workout. Next time keep the intensity up but go a bit faster & see if you can eventually go the same distance you went at a lower intensity.

BTW - I'm not a fitness pro or diet guru by any means. I'm a nurse so I have some knowledge of the human body & nutrition, but I'm pretty much just sharing what's worked for me. Don't want anyone to think I'm preaching or telling them my workout is the best.

[CreepingDeath]

My boyfriend works out with P90x, and wanted me to try it with him once. Major cardio.

There's also one called Insanity he wants to get that's supposed to be even more difficult. I'll be sticking with my treadmill and Pilates.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Having witnessed many women in the workplace over the years, I do notice a tendency for some to overcompensate, i.e., being aggressive in situations that do not warrant that kind of conduct. I often wonder whether such aggression would be tolerated if a man was conducting himself the same way; more times than not, he would be accused of creating a hostile work environment and marched off to HR. I hate to say it, but a lot of women come across inappropriately shrill and rude, thereby sabotaging their own careers, not because they are incapable of performing the job, but because they can be very unpleasant/impossible to work with.

I know it sounds awful, but it's true in my experience as well. If I go on a job interview and a woman walks in wearing a power suit and her hair slicked back like Lilith from Cheers, I know to just get up and leave immediately.

And the mind games & office politics are something else. Years ago, I worked at an insurance company - I had very insecure (female) supervisor who compensated by just being a passive-aggressive, nasty b!tch. If you had a question about something, you couldn't just ask your question; you had to gauge what kind of mood she was in first, or how to ask it in a way that didn't make it sound like you were questioning her expertise. And god help you if you went and asked somebody else and she found out about it.

[ButterCookie]

JTIS - My girl and I just made things official wheeeee

[CreepingDeath]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

JTIS - My girl and I just made things official wheeeee

Congratulations!

[daniellaaarisen]

Originally Posted by skcin

I don't rely on the calorie counter. I think most machines are just basing it mostly on speed, unless it's a state-of-the-art machine. I think if you felt you worked harder than usual, worked up a sweat & were slightly short of breath, you probably got a good workout. Next time keep the intensity up but go a bit faster & see if you can eventually go the same distance you went at a lower intensity.

BTW - I'm not a fitness pro or diet guru by any means. I'm a nurse so I have some knowledge of the human body & nutrition, but I'm pretty much just sharing what's worked for me. Don't want anyone to think I'm preaching or telling them my workout is the best.

My heart rate monitor watch always tells me I burn about 50 calories more per half hour than the elliptical says I do. I would definitely take the number on the elliptical lightly.

That being said... I heard that for weight loss, it's better to work on the elliptical for longer periods of time as slightly lower intensities? Is this true?

I usually shake it up every other day-- one day, I do 45 minutes while cruising comfortably (yet still out of breath) for the majority of the time with short periods of more exertion. The other day, it's 30 minutes of completely kicking my own ass.

[daniellaaarisen]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

JTIS - My girl and I just made things official wheeeee

Yayayayay Georgie!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by ButterCookie

JTIS - My girl and I just made things official wheeeee

Congratulations!

[sorcerer999]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

My heart rate monitor watch always tells me I burn about 50 calories more per half hour than the elliptical says I do. I would definitely take the number on the elliptical lightly.

That being said... I heard that for weight loss, it's better to work on the elliptical for longer periods of time as slightly lower intensities? Is this true?

I usually shake it up every other day-- one day, I do 45 minutes while cruising comfortably (yet still out of breath) for the majority of the time with short periods of more exertion. The other day, it's 30 minutes of completely kicking my own ass.

I found a really great system last year for my cardio. I only do 20 minutes of cardio a day(mostly on treadmill, but sometimes elliptical or bike). However, in those 20 minutes, I up the intensity level every minute for four minutes and repeat the cycle 4 times.

Minute 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
Level 5 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 8 9 6 7 8 9 6 7 8 9 10 5

Level 5 being a comfortable (but not easy) starting point...and Level 10 being the hardest I can run...my threshold if you will. On the last minute, you back down to level 5 as a cool down. Upping the intensity every minute for four cycles gives you an extreme workout, and it only takes a mere 20 minutes.

And I might add that just doing this simple program made me lose 87 pounds in the span of only 6 months. I also ate healthy and drank 8 glasses of water each day of course.