Is this eBay auction legit? Stevie Nicks - Rock a Little work-tapes - Page 6

mikebise · #76 03-28-2011, 07:15 PM

You never know with labeled tapes. In 2004, when we bought the Street Angel Masters of February 1993 and had them transfered, "I Call You Missing" was on the tape's track listing (yes, so was "Love Is Like A River" ~ they're not the same song), but it was not on the tape. Also, several Master Reels were labeled "Christian" yet never were they recordings of "Christian", but instead were always mislabeled tapes of "Gypsy", "Sanctuary", etc. In fact, one tape said "Christian (fast tempo)". Or "Upbeat".

So, I'm wondering if "Why Are We Doing This Again?" is really the alternate title of "Long Way To Go". That would certainly fit better than "Not A Matter Of The Heart", which definitely seems like "Love Don't Fail Me Now". Stevie's very first copyright for "Long Way To Go" in 1984 is under the title "Have Fun, Tell The World". And tape labels have proven to not always be correct.

Just speculating... in my sickness...

equeen102289 · #77 03-28-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikebise

You never know with labeled tapes. In 2004, when we bought the Street Angel Masters of February 1993 and had them transfered, "I Call You Missing" was on the tape's track listing (yes, so was "Love Is Like A River" ~ they're not the same song), but it was not on the tape. Also, several Master Reels were labeled "Christian" yet never were they recordings of "Christian", but instead were always mislabeled tapes of "Gypsy", "Sanctuary", etc. In fact, one tape said "Christian (fast tempo)". Or "Upbeat".

So, I'm wondering if "Why Are We Doing This Again?" is really the alternate title of "Long Way To Go". That would certainly fit better than "Not A Matter Of The Heart", which definitely seems like "Love Don't Fail Me Now". Stevie's very first copyright for "Long Way To Go" in 1984 is under the title "Have Fun, Tell The World". And tape labels have proven to not always be correct.

Just speculating... in my sickness...

Going off track here but I just wanted to throw this out: Does anyone else think that Long Way to Go is a response to Joe Walsh's "I'll Tell The World About You"? This song was released in '85 so it could have been written in '84 and Stevie was aware of it and so she retaliated with "Have fun, tell the world" when he pissed her off?

michelej1 · #78 03-28-2011, 08:02 PM

So, wouldn't that same seller have copies of what he just auctioned?

Michele

mikebise · #79 03-28-2011, 08:08 PM

No, he's selling the Master Reel To Reels, right? Those take a lot of studio work to transfer. Or is he just selling Maxell Cassettes?

michelej1 · #80 03-28-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mikebise

No, he's selling the Master Reel To Reels, right? Those take a lot of studio work to transfer. Or is he just selling Maxell Cassettes?

Oh ok. I didn't know how difficult it would be to duplicate.

Michele

mikebise · #81 03-28-2011, 08:19 PM

Master Reels are those old actual REELS of tape, some very large, some not so big, but they have to be played on reel to reel players of the Old School STUDIO variety. When we bought all those Stevie Masters in 2001~2005, we had to spend $$$$$$$$ getting them transfered in a studio and then copied to CD for the individual members of the group (everything in Daniella's thread is what we had done then). In the studio, songs were mixed and worked with ~ that's how the a capellas came about; we just stripped the music away from Stevie's vocals. Stevie didn't record them as a capella; we created them after the fact.

Some Reels were falling to pieces, crumbling into dust from the years.

So, if these are Master Reels from Rock A Little, it will also cost the winner a lot of money to have them transfered in a studio as well. So, maybe the winner will want contributions???????? I'd pay!!!

Edit: When I say "we", it was really a very hard~working woman who went into the studio and worked with the technicians to do all of this. SHE did ALL of the hard work, while we just supported the project with $$. Sorry I used the term "we", because creating those Stevie a capellas were 100% HER idea and creations. That's how many of the dance remixes of unreleased songs like "Baby Doll", "The Dealer" and more were done, from the a capellas she worked on in the studio.

Phil · #82 03-28-2011, 09:01 PM

I had the impression that the ebay auction was for the cassettes, which I assume contain recordings directly from the master reels.
Perhaps whoever bought these is a member of The Ledge and has yet to make contact? Maybe we just need to remain patient for a few days and see what transpires. I'm hopeful that these recordings will be shared. Oh to have quality copies of "She Loves Him Still", "Tied Up" and "Jimmy, Come On Back", not to mention the other unknown demo tracks, would be heaven sent!

APerfectLie · #83 03-28-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil

I had the impression that the ebay auction was for the cassettes, which I assume contain recordings directly from the master reels.
Perhaps whoever bought these is a member of The Ledge and has yet to make contact? Maybe we just need to remain patient for a few days and see what transpires. I'm hopeful that these recordings will be shared. Oh to have quality copies of "She Loves Him Still", "Tied Up" and "Jimmy, Come On Back", not to mention the other unknown demo tracks, would be heaven sent!

Me too. The photos were of cassettes.

SandyMac · #84 03-28-2011, 09:56 PM

I hope these surface some day. Damn ebay snipers....

Glad you guys tried to get this.

Aussie W/Heart · #85 03-28-2011, 10:25 PM

I'm also hoping that a fellow ledgie won the bid on EBay, idk but i suspect that someone from Stevie's camp may of snapped them up, if they new some of Stevie's unknown demo's [ forgotten gems] were included in those reels.

StreetAngel86 · #86 03-29-2011, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mikebise

Damn! I've been at work all day and missed all this! I can contribute LOTS of $$ on ANY future Stevie purchases!

BTW, HELL YES there are hoarders! I've said it before: There's a woman in San Antonio who DEFINITELY has "I Call You Missing" from Street Angel and MORE. And she's been hoarding it for over 16 years!

WHAT THE EFF????????????????????????????
ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmg

tell me u is JOKING

a street angel I CALL YOU MISSING???????????

*dead*

HejiraNYC · #87 03-29-2011, 08:03 AM

Okay... it's time to stop complaining and start figuring out what to do about the rest. First of all, to the more seasoned Stevie demophiles (yes, I just made that word up

), are the seller's other active auctions worth pursuing, e.g., the HBO broadcast master, the "I Can't Wait" tapes, etc.? If so, who will bid? We should coordinate so that we are not mistakenly bidding against each other. I am at a distinct disadvantage by not having access to eBay at work, but I am willing to help out with the cost...

mikebise · #88 03-29-2011, 08:11 AM

"I Can't Wait" I would guess to be single edits and stuff like that. Alternate mixes? The bid of yesterday looks like it had the GOLD... But maybe these others are worth it. The seller made copies, obviously, so he should elucidate of what exactly these are. "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You?" would be amazing to have alternate versions, if it's not just remixes.

I've already stated I have money to burn, so contact me if any bidders need help. I can't bid at work, plus I don't want to work against other Ledgies.

BTW, I put out my feelers and NO ONE I know got these tapes, nor who got them.

HejiraNYC · #89 03-29-2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mikebise

"I Can't Wait" I would guess to be single edits and stuff like that. Alternate mixes? The bid of yesterday looks like it had the GOLD... But maybe these others are worth it. The seller made copies, obviously, so he should elucidate of what exactly these are. "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You?" would be amazing to have alternate versions, if it's not just remixes.

I've already stated I have money to burn, so contact me if any bidders need help. I can't bid at work, plus I don't want to work against other Ledgies.

BTW, I put out my feelers and NO ONE I know got these tapes, nor who got them.

What I noticed on the cassettes is that there is an 8:50 single edit (one long mofo of a single!) and then a couple of versions of ICW labeled "TK2" and "TK3." Those sound like alternate takes to me, and I'm not aware of any alternate takes in existence. One cassette says "All mixes by Don Smith," which is odd because the official remixes were done by Chris Lord-Alge. I've never heard of Don Smith.

I dunno... but I think there be some gold on them there tapes...

Phil · #90 03-29-2011, 08:40 AM

I'm certainly on board in terms of contributing to the cost of acquiring these recordings. Even if the successful bidder of the first auction does make these available on this forum, I still think we should assist with the expense involved. I wouldn't expect to get these rarities for free and think it only fair to help out financially if the person is willing to share any of them.