**New Single** - Secret Love - Page 33

CADreaming · #**481** 01-14-2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox

I wrote yesterday that after 45 listens I liked this song. I've changed my mind. I listened to it 10 times today and this song bores me to tears. Probably because
I love the demo so much. I have often said that Stevie goes into the studio and spends thousands of dollars to destroy her songs. In most cases the demo blows away the album versions.

Ewww...I don't hear greatness in the Secret Love demo. Totally love this single.

I like demos for what they represent - the beginning of a song, the creative process, the raw track, but rarely do I think they are better than a finished, produced song.

Gold Dust Woman might be one I like better...

Jondalar · #**482** 01-14-2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil

Well remember Stevie had recorded 14 songs for her album and that at a later stage, she decided to also include "Cheaper Than Free", which was originally only slated for Dave's album. Therefore, that means there have been at least 15 songs recorded and considered for inclusion. If the tracklisting is to be cut down to just 11 songs, let's hope she has second thoughts about including "Cheaper Than Free" as it will simply be duplication at the expense of potentially superior songs.
I realise Dave has mentioned that the excess tracks will come out one way or another (bonus deluxe and additional download opportunities etc.) but I would just love Stevie's album to be comprised of the strongest material possible (although I realise this is at the end of the day entirely subjective).

When did that happen. The 14 songs included Cheaper than Free and that song is a single they are filming a video. It won't be kicked. Infact, from what I heard, it's a really strong song. Someone said that 2 songs needed to be gone from the album and then it would perfect. I bet it some of her oddball stuff like Not Make Believe, or Paper Doll stuff. Let's hope she gets over her egos, and kicks that stuff of the album. I really hate to skip songs.

CADreaming · #**483** 01-14-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

When did that happen. The 14 songs included Cheaper than Free and that song is a single they are filming a video. It won't be kicked. Infact, from what I heard, it's a really strong song. Someone said that 2 songs needed to be gone from the album and then it would perfect. I bet it some of her oddball stuff like Not Make Believe, or Paper Doll stuff. Let's hope she gets over her egos, and kicks that stuff of the album. I really hate to skip songs.

It's 14 songs, period. I doubt anything is going away...

By the way, if CTF is getting a video should we also expect a Reese Witherspoon cameo??

vivfox · #**484** 01-14-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

Ewww...I don't hear greatness in the Secret Love demo. Totally love this single.

I like demos for what they represent - the beginning of a song, the creative process, the raw track, but rarely do I think they are better than a finished, produced song.

Gold Dust Woman might be one I like better...

I was thinking about this earlier today. I love the Rumours album version much better than the demo of GDW.

CADreaming · #**485** 01-14-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

That little guitar riff someone commented on a while ago reminds me of Book of Miracles. Just a little.

I heard this today too - wonder if LB is playing on this one?

CADreaming · #**486** 01-14-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox

I was thinking about this earlier today. I love the Rumours album version much better than the demo of GDW.

Hilarious! Just proves everybody likes what they like.

mezzoforte · #**487** 01-14-2011, 09:48 PM

If they're cutting songs, I just hope that the song about Twilight ends up on the cutting room floor.

Jondalar · #**488** 01-14-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

It's 14 songs, period. I doubt anything is going away...

By the way, if CTF is getting a video should we also expect a Reese Witherspoon cameo??

Not exactly 14 songs. A song or two are becoming bonus tracks.

CADreaming · #**489** 01-14-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

Not exactly 14 songs. A song or two are becoming bonus tracks.

Oh, my bad. I didn't mean to sound snippy either btw. I just thought it had been confirmed.

MacShadowsBall · #**490** 01-14-2011, 10:10 PM

I listened to it on youtube...didn't knock my socks off...but "Edge of Seventeen" is right now!!

I'm content with "Stevie of Olde."

Jondalar · #**491** 01-14-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

Oh, my bad. I didn't mean to sound snippy either btw. I just thought it had been confirmed.

no problem, to be honest, I tend to like her shorter albums the best, they are tight, the longer ones contain bad songs.

David Wild posted today that Secret Love is his sixth favorite song off the album. That means this album may be all good if they choose the right songs for bonus tracks. There are always some oddballs floating around.

Sahara · #**492** 01-14-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte

If they're cutting songs, I just hope that the song about Twilight ends up on the cutting room floor.

Am I the only one absolutely floored by this?

Poor girl must have been really stuck for something to write about...

Jondalar · #**493** 01-14-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sahara

Am I the only one absolutely floored by this?

Poor girl must have been really stuck for something to write about...

oh it's right up her allie, ala, Beauty and the Beast, who knows, maybe it will be as good as that

CADreaming · #**494** 01-14-2011, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

no problem, to be honest, I tend to like her shorter albums the best, they are tight, the longer ones contain bad songs.

David Wild posted today that Secret Love is his sixth favorite song off the album. That means this album may be all good if they choose the right songs for bonus tracks. There are always some oddballs floating around.

That's a good point. I hope there aren't any real duds.

michelej1 · #**495** 01-14-2011, 10:48 PM

I would agree that the production on TISL does not sound dated and that's largely because most of the tracks don't have a melody or beat. It's more just continuous with swells, rather than beats.

That's what took me longer to get into it, but once I did I took a pretty deep plunge. It's more about emotion than hummability. I think the less hooky a song is, the harder it is to pin it to a particular era.

I was thinking about Secret Love last night and its mood makes me think of Love Changes, although I think Secret Love is a better song. The way something momentous just fades away is heartbreaking in itself, the quietness of it.

That's what got me about "Love Changes". The sudden emptiness, that washes over you without war or roar. There's no big collision, just a break down on the side of the road.

When there's a traumatic event, a big fight, passionate outbursts, they are cleansing in a way. Cathartic. But when great love has a softer, lingering death and the ending comes amid other trivial matters, the every day, anti-climatic conclusion of it is sad. Secret Love is sing-songy and juvenile on one hand, but I think the music and Stevie's voice do capture the pain of what "secretly died" very nicely.

Michele