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Old 12-18-2010, 11:43 AM
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REM announced today that their new album drops March 8. At this point with absolutely no promotion I'm almost hoping Stevies record doesn't come out in March.
Why? I doubt people are going to rush out to buy that album in droves.
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:46 PM
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Just meant that the albums coming out in march have already been announced. Was hoping for more advanced word and earlier promotion!
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:47 PM
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To be fair... That person heard all of about a minute of the song - which really shouldn't be used as a gauge on the whole song, or album... and it could have been a rough version of it... nobody knows.
Sounds like this moron was actually listening to "Everybody Loves You." I would pay no mind to this troll.
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Old 12-18-2010, 02:39 PM
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Sounds like this moron was actually listening to "Everybody Loves You." I would pay no mind to this troll.
I don't think so - he/she said the song had been mislabeled "Long Summer" and quoted a partial line of it - definitely not ELY.
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I think this person loves stevie and was just being honest
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I think this person loves stevie and was just being honest
Precisely. You can be a fan of an artist without loving every single thing they do. I don't understand the need to dismiss and/or call someone names who's simply sharing their views. I thought that's what the whole point of message boards was: sharing knowledge and opinions for the purpose of debate.
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Old 12-18-2010, 04:03 PM
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Old 12-18-2010, 04:11 PM
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Precisely. You can be a fan of an artist without loving every single thing they do. I don't understand the need to dismiss and/or call someone names who's simply sharing their views. I thought that's what the whole point of message boards was: sharing knowledge and opinions for the purpose of debate.
For one thing, we really don't know if this person is telling the truth (doubtful). Secondly, there are people in the world who get off on raining on people's parades and/or getting attention (narcicissism, much?). Given the tight secrecy surrounding this project and the paranoia of the music industry today, I find it hard to believe that anything like this is able to leak so easily to a fan.

On the off-chance that this person really did hear it (again, doubtful), and really didn't like it, I still think going around the internets and trashing it is a pretty d*ck move when nobody else has had a chance to formulate their own opinions about it.
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Somebody on different site has already heard Italian Summer and they weren't knocked out by it. Infact, they didn't like her vocal and said the song reminded them of I Miss You and Silver Girl. They did think the production was really good—a background of strings and really pretty music.
I love both of these songs, so I'm okay with that!
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For one thing, we really don't know if this person is telling the truth (doubtful). Secondly, there are people in the world who get off on raining on people's parades and/or getting attention (narcicissism, much?). Given the tight secrecy surrounding this project and the paranoia of the music industry today, I find it hard to believe that anything like this is able to leak so easily to a fan.

On the off-chance that this person really did hear it (again, doubtful), and really didn't like it, I still think going around the internets and trashing it is a pretty d*ck move when nobody else has had a chance to formulate their own opinions about it.
They didn't really "trash" it. Just said they personally didn't think it was a "radio hit" but the piano was beautiful. It was obviously an unmixed copy if the story is true, judging from the statement about Stevie's voice being "hoarse and low". But, the person was excited to have heard it and the music moved them to tears - and they didn't say it was because it was horrible, just that it wasn't "catchy". But, it was different from anything they had heard Stevie do... ... they did not say the entire thing reminded them of SG & IMY - just the guitar part...maybe Lindsey is playing on it?

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the story is true... although I do wonder why the friend in the story (who works for a radio station in Atlanta) was sent a clip of the unmixed song from Clear Channel. Seems like that would be a stupid way of promoting something - sending out a rough copy like that.

I guess we'll know for sure if Italian Summer ends up having this line in it: "he was her lover on her Italian summer...a dreamer and ______, running away..."

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Old 12-18-2010, 05:00 PM
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Silver Girl has a decent enough melody that you can hum along to, and the arrangement is pretty. I think most are turned off by the lyrics and their direct connotation to Sheryl Crow. On the other hand I cannot express enough love for "I Miss You". The chorus is pure ear candy, and is a good example where Stevie spins self indulgent lyrics to gold. I think it had the makings of a third or fourth single from TISL. So If Italian Summer is similar in style with good lyrics and a good melody. I will definitely enjoy this track. I suspect the musical accompaniment will be much more sophisticated than both. In the end we probably wont even be comparing these songs.
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They didn't really "trash" it. Just said they personally didn't think it was a "radio hit" but the piano was beautiful. It was obviously an unmixed copy if the story is true, judging from the statement about Stevie's voice being "hoarse and low". But, the person was excited to have heard it and the music moved them to tears - and they didn't say it was because it was horrible, just that it wasn't "catchy". But, it was different from anything they had heard Stevie do... ... they did not say the entire thing reminded them of SG & IMY - just the guitar part...maybe Lindsey is playing on it?

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the story is true... although I do wonder why the friend in the story (who works for a radio station in Atlanta) was sent a clip of the unmixed song from Clear Channel. Seems like that would be a stupid way of promoting something - sending out a rough copy like that.

I guess we'll know for sure if Italian Summer ends up having this line in it: "he was her lover on her Italian summer...a dreamer and ______, running away..."
The post sounded truthful. Everyone keeps saying they sent this promoter a rough copy, or unfinished copy in hope that the poster is wrong. Why would they do that? He's a promoter. Wouldn't they want him to be excited by the project?

I think what bothers people is that this is supposed to be the big single from the album. I Miss You was emotional nice song, but not a first single. Neither was Silver Girl. Hope Italian Summer is better now and worthy of first single status. It should knock you out. Maybe it iwill now, but judging from the recent past, maybe not.

Think back to Stevie's comments. Basically, I think we are getting a lot poems with backing music. Dave is sorta just rolling with her poetry, letting her have her artistic say. They are throwing some different things in the mix, but I think we are getting the epic poetry stuff and not first singles.

When I read the posters comment, my heart sank. I was no longer excited by the project either. But some of the best albums ever, like Joni's Mitchells Blue or the Indigo Girls' first album, never had a single on them.
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how do we know Italian Summer is going to be a single?
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how do we know Italian Summer is going to be a single?
Exactly. She has referred to "Italian Summer" as a beautiful love song, but she never said it will be the new single. The only reason people are assuming it to be the new single is because there has been so much talk about it. Honestly, this was the first new song we were told was on the record. The reason I believe it has had so much talk is probably because it was the first song they completed, therefore they all mentioned Italian Summer because it was in complete song form, rather than some of the other songs that will be on the album but they had not quite figured out the entire song at that time.
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Also, as far as whether or not the song is good is complete opinion. The person who heard it may not have liked it, but David Wild said it is one of top three songs ever. I think there is a pretty large gap between the two views, so perhaps this is one of those songs we just have to judge for ourselves.
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