New stevie and dave duet - Page 3

SuperFleetwood · #31 12-12-2010, 08:26 PM

or maybe david, it was a first outtake you know that you could call it a outtake too!, so it really isn't different its just a first outtake. and maybe they mixed this outtake in with the final song!!

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Originally Posted by David

I have no idea what will happen with the demo, but there is no more logical reason to think that the final mix would be "completely different" from the demo than to think that the final mix would be identical in every way to the demo.

Richard B · #32 12-12-2010, 09:02 PM

The track sample and their voices together very much sound like Ringo Starr and Stevie doing Nilsson's "Lay Down Your Arms".
It's uncanny.

sorcerer999 · #33 12-12-2010, 09:12 PM

I have an idea! Why don't we all just forget about the demo snippit, as well as the what ifs, the how comes, the maybes, and just wait for the freakin' album to come out before we all pass judgement on a song for which we've only heard 30 seconds of, in demo form? Sound like a plan?

louielouie2000 · #34 12-12-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

I have an idea! Why don't we all just forget about the demo snippit, as well as the what ifs, the how comes, the maybes, and just wait for the freakin' album to come out before we all pass judgement on a song for which we've only heard 30 seconds of, in demo form? Sound like a plan?

Ehh, then what the Hell would we have to talk about? We haven't gotten any new songs from this woman in nearly 8 years now... 10 since her last solo outing. We've gotta discuss something... and somebody's always bound to get pissy regardless of what we discuss. **** Everybody! That's my motto for 2011, I think!

sorcerer999 · #35 12-12-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Ehh, then what the Hell would we have to talk about? We haven't gotten any new songs from this woman in nearly 8 years now... 10 since her last solo outing. We've gotta discuss something... and somebody's always bound to get pissy regardless of what we discuss. **** Everybody! That's my motto for 2011, I think!

Rock on! **** everybody then! :P

Phil · #36 12-13-2010, 01:24 AM

I suspect a lot of words will be eaten once the final product arrives - mark my words...

louielouie2000 · #37 12-13-2010, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil

I suspect a lot of words will be eaten once the final product arrives - mark my words...

I will most happily eat my words, and fully hope that I'll have to!

louielouie2000 · #38 12-13-2010, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gypsy4life

Rough, not yet mixed or polished tracks are very hard to make a good judgement on.

I guess what's hard for me to swallow is how someone can listen to this clip and feel inspired by what they're hearing. The lyrics are violently banal and cliche. Stevie's singing is okay... but not exactly what I'd consider inspired. On top of that, her and Dave's voices don't blend one iota.

For what it's worth, I think you can make a judgement on a song by it's demo (usually... there are exceptions). Just look at the demo for Space Needle, for instance. It's chilling, haunting, and utterly emotive. It's stunning in demo form... I can't imagine how great a studio production of that song might have been. Not Make Believe and Thrown Down were excellent demos, and definitely made strong finished tracks, too.

I've been spending a lot of time lately thinking back to the time leading up to Trouble In Shangri La lately. We had snippets leaked to us back then as well. But we absolutely knew by them, no question, that we were in for a treat with that album. The clips we've heard of Everybody Loves You and Cheaper Than Free just don't give me chills the way the TISL clips did. They don't excite me. They don't sound ethereal... they're very literal.

I just want everyone to know I'm not picking on Stevie simply to take cheap shots at her. I'm just worried that she's not on the right track. She's giving up writing her own songs in favor of co-writing with someone else. That really concerns me... makes me think back to Street Angel. I adore Stevie and her music. I feel hugely invested in her after following her for decades. I just want her to be at her personal best, because I still feel she's capable of incredible music.

tilthefirefades · #39 12-13-2010, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I just want everyone to know I'm not picking on Stevie simply to take cheap shots at her. I'm just worried that she's not on the right track. She's giving up writing her own songs in favor of co-writing with someone else. That really concerns me... makes me think back to Street Angel. I adore Stevie and her music. I feel hugely invested in her after following her for decades. I just want her to be at her personal best, because I still feel she's capable of incredible music.

You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor, take him away!

Totally pointless post

belladonnadream · #40 12-13-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by APerfectLie

Oh come on Louie! This is the new Sisters of the Moon! "And the people, they love her, but still they're the most cruel!" "Everybody loves you, but you're so alone" don't you see the similarities?!!?! I bet Stevie does! All this song needs is a jolt of cocaine and some whargarbl and possibly a wtf line such as "and the starts and the river and the moon and the WELLLLLLLLL I thought I told you that this the the edge of the world in a starstream snow dream, LILYYYYYY!!!!!!" and it might not suck some major boar tits!

lol..........

jannieC · #41 12-13-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil

I suspect a lot of words will be eaten once the final product arrives - mark my words...

I am glad to know that this is a demo- in my haste I listened to it as though it were a finished product. I hope to eat my words!

baboles · #42 12-13-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by APerfectLie

Oh come on Louie! This is the new Sisters of the Moon! "And the people, they love her, but still they're the most cruel!" "Everybody loves you, but you're so alone" don't you see the similarities?!!?! I bet Stevie does! All this song needs is a jolt of cocaine and some whargarbl and possibly a wtf line such as "and the starts and the river and the moon and the WELLLLLLLLL I thought I told you that this the the edge of the world in a starstream snow dream, LILYYYYYY!!!!!!" and it might not suck some major boar tits!

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I just died laughing!

Christopher · #43 12-13-2010, 01:08 PM

I enjoy reading everyone's commentary/opinions about Stevie and her music. I think generally that's why we all come to the Ledge, to read and sometimes share. Others post's allow us to see Stevie through another lens, but I've often found that it rarely changes my opinion and always confirms the obvious, that despite our communal connection to Stevie's music - we all have different tastes and expectations...which is life! Some want this new project to be another Bella Donna -which it could never ever be because of reasons too numerous to go into on this post, others want it to be as good as TISL etc. I have spent a great deal of time this year listening to Stevie's solo output, partly due to excitement about the new record, and after listening it occurred to me that my opinion before ever hearing a completed finished track is that this new album will be unlike anything she has done before, as true as each of her solo albums are very different and distinctly unique.

Stevie also has her opinions and is on record as saying that she thinks that this record may go down as her greatest work, and compares the excitement and creativity she feels about this project to the excitement she felt while making Bella Donna. Pretty heady stuff, and as soon we all read it, it energized all kinds of conjecture and presumption. It lit our little Ledgeheads on fire!! So we all critique a 40 second demo to death, it's all par for the course. As long as were talking - we're interested & intrigued. I happen to like it, but ultimately surmise it's just one song in 12-14 that I will either love, like or hopfeully not... loathe. The new record will likely have something for everyone - as Stevie has said herself that the record is very diverse. Just like us.

mezzoforte · #44 12-13-2010, 01:56 PM

I guess I'm in the minority--I actually like the demo. Not that it's without its problems--I think the lyrics are pretty obvious and uninspiring (and of course, that aspect is the least likely to change significantly by the final cut). But I like the way their voices combine. Stevie's voice has become more nasal and a little harsher with age, and I think Dave's voice has a softening effect.
So I'm cautiously optimistic about the album. I do hope, though, that these lyrics aren't representative. They don't feel at all "Stevie-esque" to me--there's not a lot of subtlety here.

RockAlot · #45 12-13-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Christopher

I enjoy reading everyone's commentary/opinions about Stevie and her music. I think generally that's why we all come to the Ledge, to read and sometimes share. Others post's allow us to see Stevie through another lens, but I've often found that it rarely changes my opinion and always confirms the obvious, that despite our communal connection to Stevie's music - we all have different tastes and expectations...which is life! Some want this new project to be another Bella Donna -which it could never ever be because of reasons too numerous to go into on this post, others want it to be as good as TISL etc. I have spent a great deal of time this year listening to Stevie's solo output, partly due to excitement about the new record, and after listening it occurred to me that my opinion before ever hearing a completed finished track is that this new album will be unlike anything she has done before, as true as each of her solo albums are very different and distinctly unique.

Stevie also has her opinions and is on record as saying that she thinks that this record may go down as her greatest work, and compares the excitement and creativity she feels about this project to the excitement she felt while making Bella Donna. Pretty heady stuff, and as soon we all read it, it energized all kinds of conjecture and presumption. It lit our little Ledgeheads on fire!! So we all critique a 40 second demo to death, it's all par for the course. As long as were talking - we're interested & intrigued. I happen to like it, but ultimately surmise it's just one song in 12-14 that I will either love, like or hopfeully not... loathe. The new record will likely have something for everyone - as Stevie has said herself that the record is very diverse. Just as she is.

Very good point 's Christopher. I myself tend to get "my panties in a bundle" when/if someone talks down towards Stevie or her music. Its as if there talking about my very own sister, I get very defensive. So I bite my lip and walk away reminding myself we all have our very own & unique opinion' & point's of view! And here on the Ledge we do indeed get to see Stevie from many different lens!! Its all good!