Stevie to perform on this Sunday's Grammy Awards

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

They both sounded nervous and were both off-key. I think one reason why Taylor is getting ripped to shreds is because Rhiannon is a simple song to sing, and if she can't hit those notes, it really showcases the fact she can't sing.

I disagree on all counts (except that TS can't sing - that's apparent.)

Originally Posted by missus

P.S. It's VERY hard to harmonize with another singer who's got a pitch problem.....Stevie was doing her best to straighten Taylor up. I personally guarantee that SN is always in tune. In our day, you HAD to be able to (at least) sing in tune. People like songwriters Carol King or Bob Dylan got away with being "charmingly shaky" pitch-wise.....it was part of their persona. The thing is, their records were "charmingly shaky" too....Taylor Swifts recordings, in contrast are autotuned pitch-perfect.....Way too big a difference between live and recorded with Taylor. This creates "cognitive dissonance".....ouch !

Bob Welch
www.bobwelch.com

This is spot on, exactly what I was thinking while I watched it.

Originally Posted by RockALittle250

Actually, Stevie was not off-key, she was trying to let Taylor lead, but she just couldn't. And Rhiannon is not a simple song to sing, in fact, Stevie herself has said that it is one of her more difficult songs and many other artists don't even go near it.

Agreed. I think Stevie sounded a bit monotone, but any time she tried to adjust the harmony Taylor went off somewhere else with her vocal & Stevie couldn't follow. It was safer for her to stay monotone.

[ragandbone]

The Rhiannon duet certainly was hard to listen to. I had never heard TS live, but as I listened to the song that preceded Rhiannon I started to worry, because she was so off. Stevie did a great job of holding her part. and it is too bad that Taylor was never able to find hers, even with that steady support.

I bet they already have her new vocal coach(es) lined up.

[michelej1]

Crave Online wrote:
http://www.craveonline.com/entertain...-grammys-95611

Fleetwood Mac star Stevie Nicks, a beautiful portrait of idiocy, also joined Taylor Swift to duet on “Rihannon” and “You Belong With Me”. It was an unsuccessful collaboration, with the two having absolutely nothing in common with one another, and no chemistry to speak of. Nevertheless, Swift was beaming throughout the performance.

[The phrase "beautiful portrait of idiocy" was hyperlinked, so I clicked on and got this article about Stevie from April 14, 2009 which was already posted here http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...48&postcount=1

http://www.antiquiet.com/news/editor...-the-internet/

[RockALittle250]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Crave Online wrote:
http://www.craveonline.com/entertain...-grammys-95611

Fleetwood Mac star Stevie Nicks, a beautiful portrait of idiocy, also joined Taylor Swift to duet on “Rihannon” and “You Belong With Me”. It was an unsuccessful collaboration, with the two having absolutely nothing in common with one another, and no chemistry to speak of. Nevertheless, Swift was beaming throughout the performance.

[The phrase "beautiful portrait of idiocy" was hyperlinked, so I clicked on and got this article about Stevie from April 14, 2009 which was already posted here http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...48&postcount=1

http://www.antiquiet.com/news/editor...-the-internet/

Although i agree with the author that Stevie's stubbornness about using the internet to market herself is hurting her, calling her an idiot, only to link back to an article YOU wrote bashing her almost a year ago is a dick move. what.a.jerk.

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by Amlyn

Here's a pic I saw online from back stage last night. I think Stevie looks great here. Who's she holding hands with?

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Me, Hahaha,I wish,Ok I know critics have a right to have a opinion,but some go off the handle on a artist,I just ignore them,

[SortaSavageLike]

Hey guys, I wrote a song!

Taylor sings like a cat in a bag
And then the cat is strangled
Kills Rhiannon on live TV
while Stevie stands beside her

All my life I've never seen
A duet so wretchedly performed
Would you stay if it went on longer
I'd rather listen to That Made Me Stronger

She sounds like a baby crying
Ouch, my ears are dying
She has four Grammies
Instead of one great big Razzie

All my life I've never seen
A duet so wretchedly performed
Would you stay if it went on longer
I'd rather listen to That Made Me Stronger

Taylor...Taylor...Taylor...

She sings like a cat in heat
Can't that bitch follow the beat?
She rules the night in her sparkly dress
Can't you see she's an awful mess?

All my life I've never seen
A duet so wretchedly performed
Would you stay if it went on longer?
How did she win? How did she win?

Taylor...Taylor...Taylor...

Autotune, Autotune my child
Autotune, Autotune my child
Autotune, Autotune my child

Harmonies unbind
Pitch is just a state of mind

[David]

Hahaha!! I love your song!!

[Amlyn]

Originally Posted by SortaSavageLike

All my life I've never seen
A duet so wretchedly performed
Would you stay if it went on longer
I'd rather listen to That Made Me Stronger

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by SortaSavageLike

I'd rather listen to That Made Me Stronger

Now THAT'S harsh!

[thatgirlwasme]

Originally Posted by luckydimecaper

I'm sick of hearing comments like this. People are defending her saying that "oh but she's a good songwriter and writes her own material" or like above "she's not technically good but she's emotional and connects with people".. Well then stick to songwriting and lay off the singing!
What happened to those people who have ALL of these qualities? Great performances, voice, songwriting, emotional connection to people.. Surely, for someone to be really seen as worthy to win that many awards and to be that big of a star, you should be able to tick all the boxes? Not just scrape by when you can't even sing live.

I agree with you. When I think of artists who are truly stars (and many under-appreciated artists, for that matter) they do have all of these qualities. The unfortunate thing that was revealed about Taylor Swift's potential stardom as a result of the Grammy performance is that she is not the total package, and not star material in my opinion. I was truly shocked by her performance considering all of the praise she has received over the last year. I have no doubt that she has some of the qualities of a good musician--perhaps songwriting--but she just doesn't have what it takes to go down in the history books as a star.

I'm curious about current performers just making a name for themselves who you think are truly stars and have the staying power of someone like Stevie.

A

[Jondalar]

More Taylor Backlash—this article just appeared on the Huffington Post

Can Taylor Swift Sing?
What's Your Reaction:

The Taylor Swift/Stevie Nicks duet performance during the Grammy Awards was very painful. Stevie looked like she wanted to run off stage and Taylor, full of energy, appeared oblivious to the fact that she was singing completely off key.

I believe Taylor can sing. I really do. But it was not evident at the Grammys. About four years ago, before her debut single "Tim McGraw" was released, I heard Taylor Swift sing acoustic with her guitar in the basement of her Nashville record label in front of about 10 people. She was amazing. Only 16-years-old at the time, I remember thinking I'd just seen the next Faith Hill. Not only did she have 'it' - that rare indefinable star quality- she was real and sweet and unaffected. She even sent me a note, signed with a drawn smiley face and a heart, thanking me for listening to her sing. In that room, I recall her pitch being perfect and her voice pure.

Her success and album of the year Grammy win for her sophomore album "Fearless" are 100% deserved. She's a role model to hundreds of thousands of young girls, who thanks to Swift's songs, understand that they don't have to be skanky sex kittens to be cool. She writes good solid melodies and her lyrics tell stories.

But what happened to her voice? What happened on the Grammy stage?

I guess the better question is, what makes a star? I think everyone knows that Madonna is not the best singer (though thankfully, she's usually in key). Lady Gaga has both - she can sing her butt off and her performances - a mix of insanity and avant-guarde art - are nothing short of brilliant. But Taylor? She's every girl. She's happy to be invited to the party. She's happy that people like her and that her fans relate to her.

Stars can come in every shape and size. Music industry journalists and observers like to cast stones as quickly as they can. Even Lady Gaga - who truly is the perfect definition of a star - has been plagued with absurd rumors and put-downs (my favorite being those who claimed she had a penis).

Taylor has brought country music to a national pop stage like no other artist ever has - not Faith Hill, Garth Brooks or Shania Twain.

Let's hope her next live TV performance, if she ever does one again, is in tune.

[DashingDan]

1.) Get Stevie Nicks out in the public quickly and capitalize on the quickly waning post-grammy award performance blog chatter (there's a LOT of stevie support out there along the lines of "poor stevie, she tried but couldn't save T. Swift").

2.) Put out the Katrina song on iTunes immediately--even if doing so is in complete defiance of your client's wishes, she'll thank you later. All proceeds from the single's sales should go to local New Orleans charities and her i-Pod for soldiers 'thing' she does.

3.) Get her on The View.

[dnightshade]

Come on, give the kid a break. She was nervous. It was a big event, there was alot of expectation and pressure. Stevie is used to dealing with alot of different singers of varied talents and strengths. Not all performances are stellar. But it's not to say they're not enjoyable and fun. Sometimes part of the thrill is being paired with someone who might not be an ideal musical match and casting the stones out and seeing where they fall. Taylor is young and still has a plenty of time to fine tune her instrument. Who knows, maybe they'll be another duet sometime down the road and we can all see the progress.

[Sleepless-Child]

Taylor sings like a cat in a bag
And then the cat is strangled
Kills Rhiannon on live TV
while Stevie stands beside her

All my life I've never seen
A duet so wretchedly performed
Would you stay if it went on longer
I'd rather listen to That Made Me Stronger

She sounds like a baby crying
Ouch, my ears are dying
She has four Grammies
Instead of one great big Razzie

All my life I've never seen
A duet so wretchedly performed
Would you stay if it went on longer
I'd rather listen to That Made Me Stronger

Taylor...Taylor...Taylor...

She sings like a cat in heat
Can't that bitch follow the beat?
She rules the night in her sparkly dress
Can't you see she's an awful mess?

All my life I've never seen
A duet so wretchedly performed
Would you stay if it went on longer?
How did she win? How did she win?

Taylor...Taylor...Taylor...

Autotune, Autotune my child
Autotune, Autotune my child
Autotune, Autotune my child

Harmonies unbind
Pitch is just a state of mind

This is hysterical love it ! It sums up everything I was thinking about when I watched the "performance" .

[flickersticked]

Originally Posted by Livia

I am loving all the great press Butch Walker is getting:

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...with-me-235224

Butch Walker is the man.