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Old 02-01-2010, 07:52 PM
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Butch has been a Grammy nominee as a producer/writer and he could have easily been there in some capacity with Pink or another band/artist. He's not exactly a newbie in the biz, Rolling Stone once named him Producer of the Year. But if you meant as a performer, then yes, Taylor helped.
Yeah, I was referring to the opportunity to be on stage only because he's mentioned more than once how great it was to be up there with Stevie and Waddy.

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Old 02-01-2010, 07:55 PM
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I nearly imploded with excitement when I heard about this.. Then I watched it.
Those harmonies were dreadful. Nice idea in theory, bad in reality.
Nice for Stevie to perform though..
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:05 PM
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Hi all,has any one had time to tune in ET,Extra,Access Hollywood,E news,TMZ and other coverage of the awards,if Stevie appeared on them..
Yes CMT,MTV sucks.
The only thing I saw was some commentary on TMZ. Basically one of the guys said that he didn't enjoy Taylor and he wished that she would have shut up once Stevie came up on stage.
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:52 PM
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Stevie was a good sport to say the least. She did wonderful, considering.
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God, nothing was more embarrassing than watching Squinty try to be all sexy~ during Rhiannon. Even Stevie shot her a "wtf" look as soon as they started singing. Stevie wasn't the one off-key there.
I agree! I mean, Stevie is a superb harmony singer, and she tried to save it, but....not much could have helped. Like I said, Stevie was a good sport. God, she had to sing about "short skirts and bleachers!"
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Here's a pic I saw online from back stage last night. I think Stevie looks great here. Who's she holding hands with?

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Old 02-01-2010, 10:09 PM
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Here's a pic I saw online from back stage last night. I think Stevie looks great here. Who's she holding hands with?

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They may have sounded fantastic during rehearsals - but Taylor's inexperience and nervousness got the best of her during the live performance.
I really can't imagine Taylor sounding fantastic during rehearsals. And I'm not against her. I haven't bothered with her much since "Our Song," but that leaped out at me, the first time I heard it. I'd turn on the Country channel just hoping they'd play it.

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Old 02-02-2010, 03:12 AM
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I haven't even watched the performance yet.. I'm too scared.

I'm sure Taylor tried her best though.

But seriously, whoever organised this needs a bit of a whack across the head.. Stevie is too talented and wonderful to sing with amateurs.
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Taylor Swift has mixed reviews from Grammy night

The good news: At 20, Taylor Swift has become the youngest-ever recording artist to win Grammy's biggest prize, album of the year. She also becomes the only Nashville performer to win that prize with a solo album.

"Nashville is my favorite place in the world, and to see it recognized in such a beautiful way makes me so happy," Swift said backstage Sunday night, after being told that her big win followed Kings of Leon notching the first best record win for a Nashville rock act.

In all, Swift won four trophies at the 52nd Annual Grammy Awards. After Fearless also won for best country album, the singer-songwriter said, "I'm standing here accepting an impossible dream right now, and I thank you so much for that."

Now the bad news: Response to her duet with Fleetwood Mac's Stevie Nicks during the telecast has been overwhelmingly harsh.

The genre-blending duet — on Nicks' "Rhiannon" with Swift's "You Belong With Me" — drew sharp reviews from critics, both professional and in the social networking and blogging world.

Ann Powers of the Los Angeles Times wrote that "Swift gave a strikingly bad vocal performance at Staples Center on Sunday, sounding tinny and rhythmically flat-footed as she shared the microphone with the distinctive Stevie Nicks."

Chris Richards of The Washington Post wrote, "A night in the charmed life of Taylor Swift: Give an incredibly wretched vocal performance, go on to win the biggest Grammy of 2010, anyway."

The Tennessean's Dave Paulson chimed in on a live blog: "Maybe a smidge of Jamie Foxx's autotune wouldn't be such a bad idea for this duet."

Respected music industry blogger Bob Lefsetz first wrote that Fearless deserved to win album of the year, but then proffered that Swift might have single-handedly imperiled her career with this one Grammy performance: "How awful was she? Dreadful."

Scott Borchetta, president and CEO of Swift's record label Big Machine Records, had this response late Monday night.

"The facts say she is the undisputed best communicator that we’ve got," Borchetta said. "So when she says something or feels something it affects more people than anybody else. Maybe she’s not the best technical singer, but she is the best emotional singer. Everybody gets up there and is technically perfect people don’t seem to want more of it. There’s not an artist in any other format that people want more of than they want of Taylor. I think (the critics) are missing the whole voice of a generation that is happening right in front of them. Maybe they are jealous or can’t understand that. But obviously the people that she talks to are engaged with her. No one is perfect on any given day. Maybe in that moment we didn’t have the best night, but in the same breath, maybe we did."


A midday release announcing Swift's awards noted that immediately after the Sunday show, Swift and her band "left for LAX, headed to Australia and Japan, where she will perform several sold-out shows before returning to the States to launch her FEARLESS 2010 tour March 4th in Tampa."

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I just watched the grammys (mostly on FF) this morning...I was so excited for Stevie...and she fullfilled my hopes...she looked and sounded fantastic...

Having said that...I've not ever heard Taylor Swift before...WTF? The girl cannot sing a lick? How is she famous? It was painful to watch, and even more painful to listen to...

BUTT! my favorite moment was in fact Stevie pointing to the sky during the line in TS's song about the bleacher...haha! Stevie was so not the girl in the bleachers...

have to say...P!nk was freaking awesome...as was GaGa, imho...
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I've seen Taylor Swift sing live on several tv shows--she's always awful! Is her fanbase tone death or are they honestly clueless about what good singing sounds like? I give her points for writing her own songs and playing the guitar etc. and she's a lovely girl, but she really, really needs to work on her vocals. Or stop singing live.
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"The facts say she is the undisputed best communicator that we’ve got," Borchetta said. "So when she says something or feels something it affects more people than anybody else. Maybe she’s not the best technical singer, but she is the best emotional singer. Everybody gets up there and is technically perfect people don’t seem to want more of it. There’s not an artist in any other format that people want more of than they want of Taylor. I think (the critics) are missing the whole voice of a generation that is happening right in front of them. Maybe they are jealous or can’t understand that. But obviously the people that she talks to are engaged with her. No one is perfect on any given day. Maybe in that moment we didn’t have the best night, but in the same breath, maybe we did."[/B]
I'm sick of hearing comments like this. People are defending her saying that "oh but she's a good songwriter and writes her own material" or like above "she's not technically good but she's emotional and connects with people".. Well then stick to songwriting and lay off the singing!
What happened to those people who have ALL of these qualities? Great performances, voice, songwriting, emotional connection to people.. Surely, for someone to be really seen as worthy to win that many awards and to be that big of a star, you should be able to tick all the boxes? Not just scrape by when you can't even sing live.
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I am loving all the great press Butch Walker is getting:

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...with-me-235224
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:25 PM
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I'm sick of hearing comments like this. People are defending her saying that "oh but she's a good songwriter and writes her own material" or like above "she's not technically good but she's emotional and connects with people"..
Time, being the ultimate judge of all art, will tell, I guess. We'll all have to wait & see whether Taylor Swift's songs have the longevity of "Rhiannon," "Gold Dust Woman," "Landslide," "Dreams," "Sara," "Gypsy," "Edge of Seventeen," "Stand Back," & "Silver Springs."

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What happened to those people who have ALL of these qualities? Great performances, voice, songwriting, emotional connection to people.. Surely, for someone to be really seen as worthy to win that many awards and to be that big of a star, you should be able to tick all the boxes? Not just scrape by when you can't even sing live.
Someone earlier mentioned Springsteen & Dylan in a discussion of technically bad singers. But that's seriously disturbed -- rock & roll & popular music aren't symphony hall genres, & the widely different styles of singing are established. But what I heard from Taylor Swift comes nowhere near the effectiveness of Springsteen, or even Dylan. She projected nothing but amateurishness to me. She had no stamp of personal style, irrespective of technical failings.

Still, she's only 20. Maybe she'll develop a style that puts the stamp of attention on her -- later in her 20s, perhaps.
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