Michael Jackson heart problem

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

Eddie Van Halen: "I am really shocked; as I'm sure the world is, to hear the news. I had the pleasure of working with Michael on 'Beat It' back in '83 — one of my fondest memories in my career. Michael will be missed and may he rest in peace."

Van Halen guitar legend Eddie Van Halen appeared on MICHAEL JACKSON’s Thriller album for the song, 'Beat It'. Eddie reflects on his experience working with award-winning producer/songwriter QUINCY JONES and Michael Jackson, in the later half of 1982:

“I used to have this old phone system in the studio. Phone rang, I picked it up and there’s this voice saying, ‘Yo, Eddie? That Eddie?’ There was lots of crackling and stuff. And I said, ‘Yeah, who’s this?’ But he obviously couldn’t hear me. So I hung up, figuring it was a fan. Phone rings again, and the same voice says, ‘Hey, Eddie.’ So this time I shout ‘Asshole’ and hang up. Phone rings a third time. ‘Hey, Eddie, Eddie, it’s Quincy Jones.’ Have I ever felt small.

Certain people in the band at that time didn’t like me doing things outside the group. But Roth happened to be in the Amazon or somewhere, and Mike was at Disneyland and Al was up in Canada or something, and I was home alone. So I thought, well, they’ll never know. Seriously: who’s going to know that I played on a black guy’s record? Michael said ‘I love that high fast stuff you do.’ So I played two solos over it and said, ‘You guys pick the one you want.’ It was 20 minutes out of my day. I did it for free and later everybody was telling me, you could have got a royalty point out of that record. But it didn’t matter because Quincy wrote me a letter thanking me, and he signed it ‘The Asshole’. I framed it. Classic.’

'Beat It' hit the charts on March 12th, 1983, lasting 15 weeks and reaching #1 in the US, Netherlands, Spain, #2 in Switzerland and #3 in the UK.

That's a great story. I never would've believed in a million years Eddie would outlive Michael.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

Certain people in the band at that time didn’t like me doing things outside the group. But Roth happened to be in the Amazon or somewhere,

Precious.

Originally Posted by estranged4life

and Mike was at Disneyland

Hahaha...like the bass player in the movie That Thing You Do? He was off riding the roller coaster with the Marines?

Originally Posted by estranged4life

and Al was up in Canada or something, and I was home alone. So I thought, well, they’ll never know. Seriously: who’s going to know that I played on a black guy’s record?

As I suspected and stated earlier in this thread, it was a big deal for him to play on this record.

[becca]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

As I suspected and stated earlier in this thread, it was a big deal for him to play on this record.

I don't see how, it would have to be spelled out for me as I could see the Aerosmith-Run DMC thing being ground-breaking but Van Halen was only following in others' footsteps like Mike Bloomfield's not to mention Peter Green. Not being in the U.S. at the time or getting MTV I can't say if they had some no black artists videos policy Billie Jean broke but Canadian tv had black vjs and black artists like Eddy Grant and Joan Armatrading making videos for tv shows. A friend also says he saw James Brown do the Moonwalk in the '70s.

[gldstwmn]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...910033,00.html

Joe Jackson Makes Bid for Care of Michael's Kids

While his role as the driving force in the Jackson family success has never been in question, father Joe Jackson's parenting — especially with Michael — has long been a subject of scrutiny and controversy. So it's all the more surprising that the driven patriarch is now working to forge a larger role for himself in the lives of Michael's three children.

In a partial interview released on ABC on Friday, taken from a longer interview to be aired July 14, Joe says that both he and estranged wife Katherine should take on permanent guardianship duties now that Michael has died. "Their grandmother Katherine and I should raise them," Joe said. "Yes there's no one else who can do what we can do for them. We should keep them all together and make them happy. Feed them like they are supposed to be fed."

Previously there had not been a significant "we" in the children equation. As Michael requested in his will, Katherine has been granted legal temporary guardianship of Prince Michael I, 12, Paris Michael Katherine, 11, and Prince Michael II (also known as Blanket), 7. Deborah Rowe, the biological mother of Prince Michael I and Paris Michael Katherine, who had renounced her parental rights years ago, had stated an interest in taking custody of all three children in a recent interview and her lawyer is involved in the guardianship proceedings. A guardianship hearing set for Monday in Los Angeles was postponed until July 20. Katherine's lawyer said in a statement that the week delay would allow the opportunity to "privately and amicably" resolve the issue.

While still legally married, Katherine and Joe have long been separated, even residing in different states for the past few years. Michael was often vocal about his critique of Joe's parenting techniques, telling Oprah Winfrey in 1993 that there was "a lot of sadness" in his childhood. He revealed his father would tease him about his pimples and would even beat him. Jackson said his father was "very hard" and that he was "frightened" of him. In the same interview, he referred to his mother

Jackson biographer and family friend Stacy Brown says Joe's re-emergence is not out of character. "No one can put reins on Joe," Stacy says. "With a potential custody battle and knowing that he would likely be among the negatives discussed [in any court battle], Joe does what Joe wants."

Mark Lester, godparent to Michael's children, says he is not concerned by Joe's statements. "In recent years, Michael and Joe had repaired a lot of the emotional trauma that had gone on before," Lester told TIME. He says that Joe has a different relationship with his grandchildren: "I've seen how Joe reacts with the kids, he's very loving with them."

In the ABC extract, Joe was asked if he felt the Jackson children could go into show business. "I don't know," Joe responded. "I keep watching Paris. She wants to do something." He added that Blanket can "really dance."

Joe more recently drew criticism when he plugged his fledgling recording company project at appearances following Michael's death. The circumstances behind his interview with ABC also raised eyebrows, as unconfirmed word leaked out that Jackson had received $200,000 for the use of family films, which critics have decried as profiteering.

[strandinthewind]

Athina Onasis should raise them. She is the only other person I can think of that had a similar childhood, a similar parent who died under the same circumstances, and had to learn quickly that even those close to her and sharing the same blood likely wanted her only for her money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athina_Onassis_Roussel\

In the end, MJ said his mother was to get them and unless there is something wrong with her fitness to be their parent for the ten or so years they have left to 18, she should be the one.

[becca]

The two oldest kids don't share blood (despite both being named Michael), but Blanket Jackson might, so maybe Joe or whoever will get him to groom into the succesor pop king or whatever plans they might have in mind.

[JWS]

Originally Posted by becca

I don't see how, it would have to be spelled out for me as I could see the Aerosmith-Run DMC thing being ground-breaking but Van Halen was only following in others' footsteps like Mike Bloomfield's not to mention Peter Green. Not being in the U.S. at the time or getting MTV I can't say if they had some no black artists videos policy Billie Jean broke but Canadian tv had black vjs and black artists like Eddy Grant and Joan Armatrading making videos for tv shows. A friend also says he saw James Brown do the Moonwalk in the '70s.

That's right. MJ didn't invent moonwalk. It goes all they way back to the 1930's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwalk_(dance)

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by JWS

That's right. MJ didn't invent moonwalk. It goes all they way back to the 1930's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwalk_(dance)

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[strandinthewind]

From wiki:

History

The move commonly referred to as the moonwalk was originally known as the backslide, or "walking on your toes." Similar steps are reported as far back as 1932, used by Cab "Minnie the Moocher" Calloway.[4] It was first recorded in 1955 in a performance by tap dancer Bill Bailey.[5] The French mime artist, Marcel Marceau, used it throughout his career (from the 1940s through the 1980s), as part of the drama of his mime routines. Marceau's famous "Walking Against the Wind" routine was the original influence that Jackson drew from, in which Marceau pretends to be pushed backwards by a gust of wind.[6]

Prior to Jackson, James Brown had used the move,[7] for example in the 1980 film The Blues Brothers. David Bowie was probably the first rock musician to perform it, though he remained stationary.[8] An embryonic version of the move appears in Bowie's 1960s mime pieces; he had studied mime under Étienne Decroux, Marceau's teacher,[9] and under Lindsay Kemp, who had trained with Marceau. By the time of his 1974 Diamond Dogs Tour, Michael Jackson was among those attending Bowie's Los Angeles shows, later remarking on Bowie's strange moves.[10] Another early moonwalker was Jeffrey Daniel, who moonwalked in a performance of Shalamar's "A Night To Remember" on Top of the Pops in 1982.[11]

Michael Jackson

The dance was brought to widespread public attention in 1983, when Michael Jackson performed it during a television special, Motown 25: Yesterday, Today, Forever on March 25 that year. Dressed in his signature black pants, silver socks, silver shirt, black-sequinned jacket, white glove, and black fedora, Jackson grabbed his hat, spun around, posed, and started moonwalking. Ian Inglis writes that Jackson encapsulated a long tradition of African-American dance movements in that one performance. The audience gasped when they saw the move. Nelson George said that Jackson's rendition "combined Jackie Wilson's athleticism with James Brown's camel walk."[7]

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So, MJ did a version of it that thrilled. And, I think MJ did it the best. The boy could dance

[gldstwmn]

The circus has officially commenced:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...elt-start.html

La Toya Jackson: Michael was murdered... I felt it from the start

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

The circus has officially commenced:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...elt-start.html

La Toya Jackson: Michael was murdered... I felt it from the start

And - Joe Jackson allegedly wants to make the three kids tour as the Jackson 3

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,531940,00.html

[JWS]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

The circus has officially commenced:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...elt-start.html

La Toya Jackson: Michael was murdered... I felt it from the start

Another claim:

She also claimed, the newspapers reported, that roughly $2 million (1.23 million pounds) worth of cash and jewelry was taken from Michael Jackson's rented mansion and has not been accounted for.

Realted story.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31873824...ainment-music/

[strandinthewind]

Oh why not

[strandinthewind]

And - in case anyone wants to learn it or just watch this guy do it - watch this:

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by JWS

Another claim:

She also claimed, the newspapers reported, that roughly $2 million (1.23 million pounds) worth of cash and jewelry was taken from Michael Jackson's rented mansion and has not been accounted for.

Realted story.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31873824...ainment-music/

I wouldn't be surprised if he had cash stashed around.