racism - Page 5

rubytuesday · #61 04-19-2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847

What about a Jamaican person who has recently moved to America, but is not an American citizen? What do we call them?

Aren't they African American too? They were brought over from western Africa to the Americas. America isn't a country remember. They're not native to Jamaica, they're Africans in a country in the Americas so I would have thought they'd be African American too.

Jondalar · #62 04-19-2009, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

this topic was touched on briefly in the philly roll call thread, and i'm curious what other people have to say about it.

at what point are a person's observations considered "racist" and "offensive"?

the audiences at the stevie and lindsey shows i've been to have not exactly been, um, a rainbow coalition of all creeds and colors. they've been made up of white people. OLD white people, to be specific.

is THAT racist? or ageist?

i see a lot of people -- here and elsewhere -- who are quick to jump on anyone who makes such observations and call them racist and offensive. but is merely describing your experiences discriminatory?

that just doesn't wash with me. i don't want to live in some orwellian newspeak society where simply using racial descriptors and acknowledging physical differences among people gets me in "trouble." we don't live in a homogenous culture, so why pretend we do? almost nothing in pop culture or other realms of art and media has universal appeal to people of all backgrounds. so why on earth is it so "offensive" to recognize that simple truth?

thoughts?

Music is culture. Black people have a different experience than a lot of white people. The same for whites. People gravitate toward music that represents that common experience. They also gravitate toward their heros and sheros.

If you don't see a lot people of different ethnic groups at a Fleetwood Mac or Stevie Nicks concert, so what? It's their loss.

Jondalar · #63 04-19-2009, 04:47 AM

Oh and by the way, I've mean't a lot of black and hispanic people who are extremely racist, so don't lay this **** on Fleetwood Mac's white racist music.

**mylittledemon** · #64 04-19-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

Fleetwood Mac's white racist music.

what are you talking about?!

carrie721 · #65 04-19-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

Oh and by the way, I've mean't a lot of black and hispanic people who are extremely racist, so don't lay this **** on Fleetwood Mac's white racist music.

yeah, what on earth are you talking about?

Miss Vicky · #66 04-19-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

yeah, what on earth are you talking about?

I was wondering the same thing. I don't think that, at any point, ANYBODY here ever accused the band of being racist.

strandinthewind · #67 04-19-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

I was wondering the same thing. I don't think that, at any point, ANYBODY here ever accused the band of being racist.

I agree about this thread.

Interestingly, many years ago someone (Tyrisha maybe) asked whether La Nicks was a racist because, other than Bobbye Hall, none of her band up until and including then were white. If I remember correctly, it caused a huge argument at the time.

David · #68 04-19-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Interestingly, many years ago someone (Tyrisha maybe) asked whether La Nicks was a racist because, other than Bobbye Hall, none of her band up until and including then were white. If I remember correctly, it caused a huge argument at the time.

I remember that gal!

Sounds as if she was more than a little misinformed.

Black musicians in Stevie's bands: