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Originally Posted by shackin'up

The glass is half empty in your world Luke. This band is 6 years older without an album to promote. Hell, even their supposed marketingtool isn't released yet. I never expected it, I thought you were right when you predicted it would be a failure with these ticketprices, but this band is doing incredibly well. Even if they must rearrange an arena every once in while. These figures can be manipulated in some way, but it is bogus to think that they did that for 13 shows that had quite an equal average: around tenthousand people and around a million dollars. Just stop painting black pictures dude.

I agree - this tour is doing pretty well, considering your above point that there is no new album, and that people are pretty damn broke right now.

Originally Posted by LukeA

I have first hand knowledge/experience with these types of reports- I've filled them out myself. The data isn't meant to be scientific- its a collective courtesy by the promoters to share the data that they want to present. There's virtually no auditing process by Amusement Business/Billboard, or Pollstar. I have a professional working knowledge of virtually all of the venues Fleetwood Mac are playing on this tour. I can tell when seating capacities are fudged.

But, hey, don't just take my word for it. If you think that a half-curtained venue in a major market is a runaway sellout success, don't let me stop you.

Has anyone here said this tour has been a runaway sellout success? I don't think so - if they did, I missed it. There can be a middle ground here - the tour can be successful without being a smash & selling venues out. Just because that's not happening doesn' t mean it's total ****.

And I understand what you mean about the number of actual seats vs. number of seats sold, but isn't this also true for many other acts? I mean, are John/Joel selling all 19,000 seats, or are they curtaining portions off? Neil Diamond fills venues pretty consistenly, yet we were upgraded from nosebleeds to better seats to fill in a few empty areas. Are you counting the 3,000 seats with obstructed vews behind the stage (which I rarely see used at a concert unless it's center stage or something?) Like, if a 19,000 seat venue now has a 16,000 seat capacity, is that manipulating the numbers? I'm just wondering how that works.