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Originally Posted by michelej1

What I would say that someone like Diana Ross has that Britney doesn't is not "class" per se, but presence. You know, there are some people that command attention because they have an aura about them. The diva thing . . . this is what Diana Ross had that Florence Ballard did not. There's an air of command and glamour. And I think that is something that separates the stars of yesteryear from today's. You know, you love someone who you think is down-to-earth and you would kill to have lunch with, but you don't have awe and reverence for them (unless you're 8 years old and the star is Miley Cyrus). Those older stars had this kind of elegance and style that elevated them, regardless of talent.

I remember Cary Grant, old Archie, saying that he "became" who he was or who the world thought him to be. It was a facade that he himself eventually believed and that's what the old stars did, while the contemporary ones are just themselves. It's raw and its ordinary and it doesn't impress those of us old enough to remember the celebrities who created images of mystery and inaccessibility.

Why is Celine Dion a joke? It's not because she can't sing and it's not because she doesn't sell. To me it's because she has no style. She thinks she's some kind of french comedienne rather than a "star.' Instead of exhibiting an austere grace, she's screwing her face up and making Jerry Lewis level jokes. She has no "magic." I think many of today's celebrities have the popularity, without the magic. But, of course, TMZ-type coverage can steal the magical luster from anyone. I mean, if Harvey Levin was around back in the day, we might have found that Greta Garbo didn't wear panties either. Would she still have become a legend?

Michele

I would add that many celebrities court the gossip and paparazzi. Many others do not. If a celebrity wants to they are able to dissapear.

Look at all the ones we never see or hear about unless they are promoting something. Stevie is one of them.

Those pics of her at the airport were a rare exception and the only pics I have ever seen of her when she is living off camera.