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[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by RoseGarden

That could possibly be, but judging by Stevies' songs---no offense---she always plays the innocent victim. I think she would have wrote a powerful song in what this felt like. After all, she doesn't leave much behind in what's going on her mind/head even if it is coated.

****Sarah for example, now who would have guessed? named for the poet in her heart . . . .

With respect, La Nicks has never said Sara was about anything other than what was going on in FM at the time. I believe she also said Sara is her friend Sara. Don Henley said the reference to "when you build your house, call me home" was a reference to the house he was building.

In the end, all of this is just speculation on everyone's part. So, I say give your opinion and no one has the right to tell you not to

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

. . . The members of Fleetwood Mac fit that bill, and I don't see any of the band members now suffering in regret over their past real life experiences! In fact, it's been a source of inspiration for their art! (Stevie's revisionist take on this issue is extremely hypocritcal in my opinion...but whatever) . . . .

???????

How is she revising anything?

La Nicks admits to the drugs and openly speaks of her addictions. She also has said that the inner turmoil in FM caused great art and that angst still exists to day and is an inspiration to her and LB.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

???????

How is she revising anything?

La Nicks admits to the drugs and openly speaks of her addictions. She also has said that the inner turmoil in FM caused great art and that angst still exists to day and is an inspiration to her and LB.

I'm mostly referring her recent hard stance in "warning" about the dangers of drugs, as if she is offering some kind of newfound sage advice to a new generation. She means well, but every generation has some aspect of culture that is influenced by some varied of altered state of mind, whatever the medium, and whatever the cost (one she has greatly benefitted from).

In the past, she never made excuses for her experiences and her history...and she never preached. I admired her resolute approach of it was what it was..no regrets...it was fun...it provided inspiration for a while...but now it's time to move on.
But Stevie Nicks issuing public service-like statements about using drugs makes me wince sometimes. She comes off like a naive grandma saying "do as I say, but not what I did."

(excuse my misspellings...Spellcheck isn't available here and I'm too lazy to consult a dictionary.)

[PenguinHead]

[QUOTE=
In the end, until we see her say it, we'll never really know for sure. And, I just can't see her saying it. But, you never know.[/QUOTE]

Is this information we should be waiting for?? Wh0 the heck are we or anyone else to cast any judgement on her personal history??? It's her life, her decisions, her past! The essential thing is we all enjoy her spirit, her image and her art. She's, by years of evidence, a nice, decent, creative being. I see no productive reasoning in discussing and debating a personal issue that she wanted to remain personal.

[David]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

In the end, all of this is just speculation on everyone's part. So, I say give your opinion and no one has the right to tell you not to

Remember that one ledgie who believed SARA was about the political turmoil in Indonesia in the 1960s?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by David

Remember that one ledgie who believed SARA was about the political turmoil in Indonesia in the 1960s?

I warned you not to cause that inserection - but, did you listen to me - noooooooooooooooooo

[DeeGeMe]

If I would have ingested the drugs and alcohol that the Mac did back in the day and gotten pregnant I have to admit, I'd seriously have considered abortion too just for the health concerns of the fetus. It's her business. I think we know from her statements that she regrets not having children and the career came first. Her choice. Her life. Or as Kate Hepburn once said (and this is paraphrased): You can have a brilliant career, wonderful kids, and a terrific marriage. Choose two."

[David]

Originally Posted by DeeGeMe

If I would have ingested the drugs and alcohol that the Mac did back in the day and gotten pregnant I have to admit, I'd seriously have considered abortion too just for the health concerns of the fetus. It's her business. I think we know from her statements that she regrets not having children and the career came first. Her choice. Her life. Or as Kate Hepburn once said (and this is paraphrased): You can have a brilliant career, wonderful kids, and a terrific marriage. Choose two."

Stevie is the Beethoven of her day, some say: No kids, no marriage, complete devotion to art & career, wild hair, wild heart, short in stature, imposing in demeanor.

Beethoven was deaf; Stevie is blind.

Both prone to irritable bowels & both fond of baked freshwater fish.

[strandinthewind]

Not to mention both were rather clever with the written word:

Though still in bed, my thoughts go out to you, my Immortal Beloved, now and then joyfully, then sadly, waiting to learn whether or not fate will hear us - I can live only wholly with you or not at all - Yes, I am resolved to wander so long away from you until I can fly to your arms and say that I am really at home with you, and can send my soul enwrapped in you into the land of spirits - Yes, unhappily it must be so - You will be the more contained since you know my fidelity to you. No one else can ever possess my heart - never - never - Oh God, why must one be parted from one whom one so loves. And yet my life in V is now a wretched life - Your love makes me at once the happiest and the unhappiest of men - At my age I need a steady, quiet life - can that be so in our connection? My angel, I have just been told that the mailcoach goes every day - therefore I must close at once so that you may receive the letter at once - Be calm, only by a calm consideration of our existence can we achieve our purpose to live together - Be calm - love me - today - yesterday - what tearful longings for you - you - you - my life - my all - farewell. Oh continue to love me - never misjudge the most faithful heart of your beloved.
ever thine
ever mine
ever ours

[darla]

Yes I agree with you catdancer....There could have been times when
she wanted the child but could not carry to long term...
Everyone please do not judge her. And if Stevie was on drugs it might
have been way to hard for her to stop and it could have hurt the fetus....
The baby may have been born retarded...No one knows but Stevie....
She is human...And I personally do not believe it is four abortions.
Darla

Originally Posted by CADreaming

My point was that she may have been forced to terminate pregnancies that she actually wanted because she couldn't carry a child to term.

[GODDESS6]

i have always respected stevie's privacy on this topic~ whether or not it happened or how many times, doesn't affect how i feel about her~ i will never know what it was like, especially back then, to walk a day in her shoes~ & i don't mean any of us who have dreamed of being stevie, the on stage persona we all love, but the one we know had many, many dark days in her life also, & i won't judge her decisions on how she handled things in her personal life~ i can't imagine some of the pressure she must have been under, especially after becoming a successful member of fm~

[michelej1]

I haven't read this article again and I may be getting it wrong, but I not only find it difficult to believe Stevie said she had 4 abortions. I can't believe she said something along the lines of 'I slept with them all.' That's just not like her!

Again, I don't want to read the article and I'm just going from memory of what I think it says. Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by RoseGarden

I really doubt , Don Henly would WANT to voulenteer that information NOR make it a fabriacation as it brings him negative publicity. I for one wrote him and the Eagles off after hearing it. Any man can sing but it takes a REAL man to stand up and take responsibility for what they've done .

Such as it was, I don't think Don's reputation suffered at all. I think it was a rather boastful statement and I wouldn't put it in the category of, "No one would possibly admit this if it wasn't true." I think it probably is true, but I also think Don was kind of pleased with himself and was bragging.

Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by DeeGeMe

Or as Kate Hepburn once said (and this is paraphrased): You can have a brilliant career, wonderful kids, and a terrific marriage. Choose two."

It seems to me that Kate Hepburn chose ONE. I'm not counting that relationship with Spence as either a marriage or as terrific, which is not to say I don't admire the strength of the bond.

Michele

[RoseGarden]

It does make for an interesting conversation, but most people on here are correct. This is her business and as a fan, I would just like her to know so glad she's healthy and happy and made it to still be rocking at 60.