Proposition 8 passes in California

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

What is that non-religious argument again

But and again, I am using the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment, which you have yet to refute.



Utter BS --

What's the Difference?

The most significant difference between marriage and civil unions (or domestic partnerships) is that only marriage offers federal benefits and protections.

According to the federal government's General Accounting Office (GAO), more than 1,100 rights and protections are conferred to U.S. citizens upon marriage. Areas affected include Social Security benefits, veterans' benefits, health insurance, Medicaid, hospital visitation, estate taxes, retirement savings, pensions, family leave, and immigration law.

Because same-sex marriages in Massachusetts and California, civil unions, and domestic partnerships are not federally recognized, any benefits available at the state or local level are subject to federal taxation. For example, a woman whose health insurance covers her female partner must pay federal taxes on the total employer cost for that insurance.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922609.html

If you have facts to the contrary, let's see them



Again, I don't care what you call it as long as equal rights are given to all Americans.

As for Christ in Christmas, I agree. I think people should say Merry Christmas all they want. Some people say Happy Holidays to be inclusive of other religions as Christmas is not the only holiday at that time of year. Are you actually arguing that is a bad thing? Obviously you do not want to be inclusive.



You said my analogy to the civil rights progress of blacks was comparing apples to oranges. This shows it is not.



Again, I hope when someone takes a shiitte all over you in the name of God, you have the same attitude

haha...oh Jason. I don't know what else to say to you my friend. I can argue about it until I'm blue in the face, but you'll never see it my way. Just so we're clear...my thoughts on the matter are not to imply that I would take rights away from homosexuals, blacks, or any other race or creed. I think we're all equal. I just will never call a union between a man and a man a "marriage." I can with 100% honesty tell you that my gay brother will tell you the same thing right now to your face. He would tell you "that's silly, because that's not what marriage is." So what then? Different strokes for different folks. At the end of the day, marriage will have to be redefined. Get that done and then find a way to move forward.