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Originally Posted by rubytuesday
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I didn't say collapsed, but they often do have inferior care in that there are longer waits, you get one level of care, etc. Not that it doesn't work at all. We do actually have government health in a variety of ways and it caused problems. In my state, Washington, our ER's are clogged with welfare recipients with runny noses and real emergencies have to wait. I had a temperature of over 105 back in March and I had to wait in the ER for 5 hours to get treated. Had I just gone to my neighborhood clinic, I could have gotten right in. The ER is government mandated, whereas my neighborhood clinic is market based. Our laws here are written in such a way that no ER can refuse someone on welfare, so they just go into the ER whenever there is a problem and it's gotten to the point where the hospitals are financially strained because of the load the government has put on them. Plus, insurance costs are ridiculous here because of government mandates. We have something very close to socialized health care here and it is broken beyond belief. Other states are not nearly this bad. We also have medicaid on the federal level and suppliers rip the government off because the process is too big and cumbersome for proper oversight. We would be a lot better off with some serious health care reform here certainly, but a government takeover would compound the problems.