Rhiannon Film Script And Demos That I Have Never Heard Of!! - Page 3

vermicious knid · #31 06-07-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecrystal

Hard Advice Written In 1995

This must be "That Made Me Stronger". The song about the hard advice given to her by Tom Petty.

I thought I had at least one version of every Stevie demo that was circulating, but I had never heard of this "Bubbles and Balloons". Other people have heard this song?

crtrofthenight · #32 06-08-2008, 12:37 AM

During the Enchanted tour, she always introduced Rose Garden as "You never promised me a Rose Garden".

Dark Angel · #33 06-08-2008, 12:46 AM

Bubbles and Balloons is probably more commonly know as See The World Go By.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ru1trw0e9z5

I agree about Hard Advice and TMMS. Considering all she said about that song during the TISL tour, and the lyrics to it, it makes sense.

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Originally Posted by vermicious knid

This must be "That Made Me Stronger". The song about the hard advice given to her by Tom Petty.

I thought I had at least one version of every Stevie demo that was circulating, but I had never heard of this "Bubbles and Balloons". Other people have heard this song?

bluecrystal · #34 06-08-2008, 09:29 AM

does anybody know what her rhiannon songs are for the supposed movie, she said once in an interview that there were 20, but only eleven have been recorded, whether with a full band, or just on the piano. these are my guesses:

Rhiannon: Fleetwood Mac 1975
Angel: Tusk
Planets of the Universe: TISL 2001
Sorcerer: TISL 2001
Goodbye Baby: Say You Will 2003
Forest of the Black Roses: Piano Demo 1978
Maker of Birds/Three Birds of Rhiannon: Piano Demo 1978
Stay Away: Piano Demo 1978
Forsaken Love/Mistaken Love/Frustrated Love: Piano Demo 1978
Lady from the Mountain: Piano Demo and a lot of outtakes for various albums such as Tusk, Bella Donna and Rock A Little
Legend of the Three Birds of Rhiannon: Uncirculated Demo

I also think Sisters of the Moon, was written for the Rhiannon movie, i have a demo where she plays for a man named Andy, this is exactly what she says: "And Andy you can listen to this, and than you will know exactly where its coming from...I don't know this might not be anything that anybody can even use, cause I'm going to use it. This is the closing thing to something that I'm going to do, but i might not do it for 2 years..."

Now I wonder if she is talking about a solo album or the Rhiannon movie, the demo was recorded in 1978, the same year when she recorded other piano demos such as Maker of Birds, Forsaken Love and Forest of the Black Roses for the movie, for these demos are labeled Stevie's Film Score/Screen Gems Project.

And also, she said there are 20, i wonder what the other 9 are? Any speculations?

vermicious knid · #35 06-08-2008, 12:24 PM

Did she just recently say there were 20? I know she said a couple of years ago that she was writing songs based on the Mabinogion, so I think those extra nine or ten are pretty new songs that we have never heard.

We know that there are ten Rhiannon songs written in the seventies, and then I believe she announced at some Rock a Little show that she had written an eleventh. Here is an old thread where people were trying to figure out the songs.
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...ht=maker+birds

bluecrystal · #36 06-08-2008, 02:13 PM

i used to have this old wild heart era interview, and on the interview, the interviewer asked about the project, and stevie said there are about 20 'Rhiannon' songs, then during a other side of the mirror era interview, she said there were 11 that she has recorded.

i think maybe, if you ever did believe could be one, only because it shares lyrics with forest of the black roses, but all of us know, she tends to pull lines from one song and use them in others.

i also think blue water could be one

David · #37 06-08-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vermicious knid

DWe know that there are ten Rhiannon songs written in the seventies, and then I believe she announced at some Rock a Little show that she had written an eleventh. Here is an old thread where people were trying to figure out the songs.
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...ht=maker+birds

Thanks for posting that. I forgot we had all talked about it.

Am I the only ledgie who believes GATE & GARDEN is part of this song cycle?

bluecrystal · #38 06-08-2008, 04:21 PM

it could be, i never thought it was, why do you think it is a rhiannon song, how does it fit with the others and the legend of rhiannon?

gold_dust · #39 06-08-2008, 04:27 PM

I always thought Cecelia could've been one.

David · #40 06-08-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecrystal

it could be, i never thought it was, why do you think it is a rhiannon song, how does it fit with the others and the legend of rhiannon?

It just has that mythic grandeur that one associates with THE WHITE GODDESS by Graves or the prophetic poetry of Blake -- or Jon Winokur's series of interviews with Paul Fussell.

The other myth-crit possibility of GATE & GARDEN is that it's a riff on Cocteau's "La belle et la bête" (which itself riffs on "Le sang d'un poète"). Do I believe that Stevie admires Cocteau's early-50s "Orphée"? No, I don't. I bet she hasn't even seen it.

bluecrystal · #41 06-09-2008, 12:12 PM

i honestly believe that If You Ever Did Believe is one of the Rhiannon songs, the lyrics fit perfectly with the themes in Welsh mythology and they do share some lyrics with Forest of the Black Roses. Now as for Gate and Garden, i don't see how it does fit, i think the album the Wild Heart, is loosely classic literature such as Wuthering Heights, and other works by the Bronte Sisters. I also think Stevie was influenced by many themes from Gone With the Wind and by the novel Gone to Earth written by Mary Webb which is about a young girl who turns to her books of witchcraft and spells whenever she faces problems. The book of spells was left to her by her mother who was a gypsy.