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Old 06-02-2008, 07:56 PM
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I was doing some more research for my site today, and while trying to find a reference to a line from Sara, I came across a song titled Drowning In The Sea Of Love, performed by Joe Simon in 1971. Not only does it have the line from Sara, it also contains a couple lines found in Never Going Back Again.

Drowning In The Sea Of Love - Joe Simon
(Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff)


I've been down one time,
And i've been down two times,
But now i'm drowning, drowning in the sea of love.

I've been here so very long,
I've lost all my directions.
But, baby, when you came my way,
I thought i had found perfection.
But a strong wind came into my life,
It surely took me by surprise,
I can't seem to control these tears flowing from my eyes.

I've been down (one time) one time,
I've been down (two times) two times,
But i'm drowning, drowning in the sea of love.

You know that i depend on you,
For our love's an obligation.
But now that you deserted me,
I'm in desperation.
But i'm in the middle of a bad love storm,
It really took me by surprise.
I look around and all i see is water coming over me.

I've been down (one time) one time,
I've been down (two times) two times,
But i'm drowning, hear me, drowning in the sea of love.

I've been down one time,
And i've been down (two times) two times,
But now i'm drowning, drowning in the sea of love.

Drowning, you know i'm drowning.
(watch your love, watch your love, yeah-hey)
(watch your love, watch your love)
I'm going down for the last time!

Drowning in the sea of love - drowning,
Drowning in the sea of love - drowning,
Drowning in the sea of love - falling,
Drowning in the sea of love - falling,
Drowning in the sea of love,
Drowning in the sea of love,
Drowning in the sea of love,
Drowning in the sea of love.

Watch your love, watch your love,
Watch your love, watch your love,
Watch your love, watch your love.

Drowning in the sea of love - drowning,
Drowning in the sea of love - drowning,
Drowning in the sea of love - falling,
Drowning in the sea of love - falling.

One time.
Two times.
Drowning, drowning in the sea of love.
One time.
Two times.
I'm going down two times.
(drowning) drowning, drowning in the sea of love.
I've been down (one time) one time,
And i've been down (two times) two times,
But i'm drowning, drowning in the sea of love.

Whoa!

Drowning in the sea of love, i'm drowning!
Drowning in the sea of love, i'm falling!
Drowning in the sea of love, yeah!
Drowning in the sea of love,
Drowning in the sea of love,
Drowning in the sea of love.


Any thoughts? Also, could it be used as a possible allusion for Sara on my site?
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:27 PM
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Absolutely. That's really wild! I guess all these pop stars consume nothing but lyrics & chords of other pop songs, & it all gets mishmashed (zim-zumed in Yiddish) into a giant gaping maw, & then spit out as if from the cavernous, capacious gut of a sperm whale (or other large toothed whale).

I would say that Stevie is the toothed whale, whereas Lindsey is the baleen whale.
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:01 PM
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This find is fascinating, given the two songs that seem to be "inspired" by it, even more ironic considering the "Sara" lawsuit...
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It's very easy to come up with a great idea and then realise you subconsciously stole it! I'm not saying this is what happened here, necessarily, but it does happen.

Laurence J. Peter - "Originality is the fine art of remembering what you hear but forgetting where you heard it."
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Drowing in the sea of love is a very old expression that has been used countless times and in countless ways. I wouldn't say it is "ripping off" another song though, as those expressions are far too common to have any copyright over.

Same goes for been down one time, been down two times. Songs just re-hash expressions people use.

Here's a Walter Egan song that is similiar to you know what:

When my time is only
Passing me from day to day
And I'm feeling lonely
About the best thing I can say...

You will understand me
Never mind what they try to hand me
Won't you say you will
Won't you say you will
Take me to your heart, dear
Won't you say you will

Once I lost a good thing,
I just let it slip away
Now I'm lost and looking,
Trying to find that thing today

Will you ever hear me...
Say I need you near me
Won't you say you will?
Won't you say you will?
Take me to your heart, dear
Won't you say you will?

Find a way, to help me see me
Find the higher plane
Don't you know, only you can free me

Find a way to help me see me,
Find the better plane
Don't you know, only you can free me
From this crazy chain

Yeah...
Won't you say you will
(Will...)
Won't you say you will
Take me to your heart...dear
Won't you say you will
Won't you say you will...
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I was doing some more research for my site today, and while trying to find a reference to a line from Sara, I came across a song titled Drowning In The Sea Of Love, performed by Joe Simon in 1971. Not only does it have the line from Sara, it also contains a couple lines found in Never Going Back Again.

[I]Drowning In The Sea Of Love - Joe Simon
(Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff)


I've been down one time,
And i've been down two times,
But now i'm drowning, drowning in the sea of love.


Any thoughts? Also, could it be used as a possible allusion for Sara on my site?

Well, here's a little bit of cosmic something -

BB King covers this song on his 1988 album King of the Blues

it is track # 2 - followed by track # 3 Can't Get Enough which features Stevie and Mick

(from the Nicks Fix)

B.B. King - King of the Blues
(1988)

Habit To Me (You've Become A)
Drowning In The Sea Of Love
Can't Get Enough - Stevie on background vocals
Standing On The Edge
Go On
Let's Straighten It Out
Change In Your Lovin'
Undercover Man
Lay Another Log On The Fire
Business With My Baby Tonight
Take Off Your Shoes

I always found it uncanny that the Drowning song was right there next to Stevie singing on this album. And why didn't she sing on Drowning instead of Can't Get Enough?
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Here's a Walter Egan song that is similiar to you know what:

When my time is only
Passing me from day to day
And I'm feeling lonely
About the best thing I can say...

You will understand me
Never mind what they try to hand me
Won't you say you will
Won't you say you will
Take me to your heart, dear
Won't you say you will
Hey! Stevie sings on that one too!
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