Oh Wise and Worldy Ledgies

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Seeing is believing they say. Then again, you're confusing church dogma with Biblical text.

What else is there to go on? It's still belief in something just because someone else says it's so... without any proof.

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

But the thing is - it HAS been changed over the years. Always by a bunch of men - a bunch of men with agendas. There have been numerous redactions made to the Bible over the years - which further dilutes its absolute truthiness.

Anyway.

Why is that funny? Because it happened? Because it further proves that people can, have and continue to use the Bible as a weapon against certain people?

It is a shame that people would use the book for such purposes. I was always taught that Bible is a guide, a tool - and not a weapon.

Well I didnt mean LITERALLY funny...just funny that, looking back, that someone could even believe the discrimination against blacks, or women was "right" by using the Bible as motivator. It says plainly the Lord is the Lord of all men, regardless of colour and creed, or nation, etc. I would say those passages would make it crystal clear that those preaching such a message are not of God, and to use the Bible as such a weapon for their own gain, or purpose would weed them out as the wolves.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by Sarah

By changed I mean "added to". As in, teh stories.

Gotcha. Yeah - that always bothered me as a young Catholic tot...I would harass my mom and grandma with "why are all the stories so ooooold!?!"

Never did get an answer

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Gotcha. Yeah - that always bothered me as a young Catholic tot...I would harass my mom and grandma with "why are all the stories so ooooold!?!"

Never did get an answer

"ma, the bible is a done deal!"

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by carrie721

nobody could. religion is so woven into every part of our society that nobody could explain it in non-religious terms.

got enough guilt to start my own religion

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

got enough guilt to start my own religion

Aww dont say that! That makes me feel for you. It truly does. I have my own guilt I've to deal with...it was real bad in the past. Including my bitterness towards church, and faith, and God and what have you.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by paperflowers

My first question is regarding sort of general travel about Europe.


Are the train schedules available on the internet, reliable?

Usually they are, but it's better always to take a good margin.

Originally Posted by paperflowers

How do Europeans perceive Americans?

In this period, not very well, but it's impossible to generalize. You'll find a lot of nice people there. Politeness and respect for other people's traditions would be good cards to avoid bad moments.

Originally Posted by paperflowers

They want to see the "Black Madonna" in Czestochowa. Has anyone ever been there? Is this going to be too touristy? Extremely crowded? The reason I ask is my mom and her sisters are elderly and I am worried about them standing in long lines.

It's a very touristy place, the Black Madonna in Czestochowa is one of the usual stops for catholic religious tours. I'd try to go quite early in the morning to avoid very long lines.

Originally Posted by paperflowers

Should we take any extra precautions in Eastern Europe? I read it's extremely bad there one place and then read that violence and crime is vastly exaggerated in others. Here again I am concerned because I will be traveling with three elderly women. Are we gonna get mugged on the subway?

Just be cautious as you'd be in any other Foreign Country you don't know, even if I'd advise not to explore too much during the evening. Be also careful to people who offer you fantastic affairs for your shopping.

Romy

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

But I doubt the US is really any better than most other western countries. Just different.

our country is better than your country

[tommer]

wow... Krakow and Kyiv, that's an...mmm...interesting choice... or shall i say quite a strange one. these are two of the gloomiest cities i've ever been to. in fact, i'm passing thru Kyiv again next week, and although i've more than a few hours to burn there, i don't think i'll leave the airport coz it doesn't worth the price of their tourists' visa.
Krakow is nothing to write home about either. other than this crumbling old palace, i can't remember anything from being there.