An Idea For A Cool, Creative Change For The Ledge

[amber]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Ratings? Who cares?
On Seven Dunders, where I RARELY go(maybe once a month, when ya'all are being lazy with the posting!), I don't even know what the "Karma" is for, or how you do it.......... I mean, who CARES about that ****? It's stupid, and juvenile, IMO.

Yeah. But that's the thing. Probably no one would care about it, until it is started, then a bunch of people start to care about it. Because suddenly it is made into a competition. Human nature, I guess. Before it was started, the only people who cared about it were the kinds of people who would come up with the idea. Which is fine, people like games and stuff, or whatever.

But also, it looks like some people over there like to be nice, and giggle, and praise others, and be happy and fun, so they give Karma out as a blessing and day brightener, just a little boosty-poo for a friend's self esteem - not so much as a competition.

You know, like "hey, Homie, I love what you just posted, and I agreed with it, Karma for you!" with a big smiley sparkly wand weilding wizard emoticon to make you feel all warm and smooshy and appreciated and cozy and loved and secure and twinkly and worthwhile and interesting and popular in every way.

yeah, I don't care either.

But like I said, I like when people try to think of cool new stuff, and is anything so perfect that it can't be improved? Generally speaking, of course.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

Yea, it probably is - but then again, so are the "What Are You Eating" and "What Are You Doing" threads

NO, there's a significant difference, IMO. Karma, and ratings, are about POPULARITY.
"What are you eating, and doing", aren't about anything like that. Those, IMO, are about the FAMILY at the Ledge, sharing our days, and lives, with each other.

Just like a phone call, to your Mom.
That's the way I see those, anyway(and appreciate them).

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

NO, there's a significant difference, IMO. Karma, and ratings, are about POPULARITY.

Totally. Even the Karma thing on seven wonders backfired and they had to remove the negative karma because people were just dishing that out to people they didn't like.. regardless of thread content. IMO rating threads by number of views or having the number of threads you have started under your name is just asking for trouble

[buckymcnix]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

NO, there's a significant difference, IMO. Karma, and ratings, are about POPULARITY.
"What are you eating, and doing", aren't about anything like that. Those, IMO, are about the FAMILY at the Ledge, sharing our days, and lives, with each other.

Just like a phone call, to your Mom.
That's the way I see those, anyway(and appreciate them).

im with you homey -

"Psst - Hey mom . . . yah it's me . . . that guy from the ledge is buggin me again. . . yes mam . . . i know . . . ignore it . . . ok got it/ .. . "

Originally Posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon

IMO rating threads by number of views or having the number of threads you have started under your name is just asking for trouble

i agree . . . "trouble"

and "trouble" is my middle name. . .


ok Hey there Ethan -
i guess what most folks are saying is that it isn't a popularity contest . . . it's not who has the most posts wins kinda thing. . . everyone posts stuff that may not be interesting to everyone . . . the mad-lib thing i did didn't appeal to everyone . . . and they didn't participate . . .but that doesn't mean that the small amount of posts in that thread should be graded compared to the thread anticipating new fleetwood mac dates. . . thats obviously gonna generate huge interest but it doesn't mean the less visited threads are less valid to the people who are keeping up on those . . .
Do You Understand this? You are very enthusiastic and post quite regularly . . . if you value the number of posts or views on your threads then you should take the advice that many have offered you and try to contain alot of your stuff in one thread . . .(then that thread will garner all the views and posts and get you your double diamond status as opposed to the ten that you would have started individually. . . )
do you understand this point?
people suggest this to you but you seem to ignore that part of their posts . .. i am not trying to bash you man - just asking you point blank if you read these suggestions??

There is currently a way for everyone to rate threads for their own use and i feel it is unnecessary to assign a rating to a thread simply because it is popular (hats off to Homie again).

i was jokin with you in anothr thread that you should be careful or people will start to believe that you value the number of threads/posts/views as opposed to the quality of the posts . . .
well i don't think this thread will do anything to stop them from thinkin that

just my two cents
well hell -this was a long post so more like my 13 cents

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by Musicman408

feel free to make comments

bad idea IMO

[sasja]

I would hope the Ledge is above this sort of odd "popularity contest".

I have liked things fine the way they are.

I have such snarky comments on the tip of my tongue, it's been that kind of day, but I'll be good.

Sasja

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by sasja

...

I have such snarky comments on the tip of my tongue, it's been that kind of day, but I'll be good.

Sasja

Thank you!

This might be a fun idea but I don't think Marty is interested in making any changes to the Ledge, just maintaining it. If I may speak for him. I'm going to move this thread over to the other forum mentioned above.

[Musicman408]

Originally Posted by buckymcnix

im with you homey -

"Psst - Hey mom . . . yah it's me . . . that guy from the ledge is buggin me again. . . yes mam . . . i know . . . ignore it . . . ok got it/ .. . "




i agree . . . "trouble"

and "trouble" is my middle name. . .


ok Hey there Ethan -
i guess what most folks are saying is that it isn't a popularity contest . . . it's not who has the most posts wins kinda thing. . . everyone posts stuff that may not be interesting to everyone . . . the mad-lib thing i did didn't appeal to everyone . . . and they didn't participate . . .but that doesn't mean that the small amount of posts in that thread should be graded compared to the thread anticipating new fleetwood mac dates. . . thats obviously gonna generate huge interest but it doesn't mean the less visited threads are less valid to the people who are keeping up on those . . .
Do You Understand this? You are very enthusiastic and post quite regularly . . . if you value the number of posts or views on your threads then you should take the advice that many have offered you and try to contain alot of your stuff in one thread . . .(then that thread will garner all the views and posts and get you your double diamond status as opposed to the ten that you would have started individually. . . )
do you understand this point?
people suggest this to you but you seem to ignore that part of their posts . .. i am not trying to bash you man - just asking you point blank if you read these suggestions??

There is currently a way for everyone to rate threads for their own use and i feel it is unnecessary to assign a rating to a thread simply because it is popular (hats off to Homie again).

i was jokin with you in anothr thread that you should be careful or people will start to believe that you value the number of threads/posts/views as opposed to the quality of the posts . . .
well i don't think this thread will do anything to stop them from thinkin that

just my two cents
well hell -this was a long post so more like my 13 cents

Well, I mead I do agree with you........ But I think maybe you all misunderstood my point. I didn't mean for this to be a popularity contest thing by any means......... It is either this board or maybe it was that OTHER one, but they had a little icon that showed if a thread had a certain ammount of views and or replies, and called them HOT TOPICS........

I didn't mean for this to be a popularity contest. People will post in whatever thread they may. The point of this thing was to just infuse a little bit of musical life into our ledge life........

I definately didn't come here massively change this place. I love the ledge and the people because we ALL have COMMON INTRESTS........ I wouldn't come here if I didn't enjoy it.

SO I mean, I guess the idea won't go through, and that is alright I guess, i just thought that it would be a cool idea. Guess the majority of people dissagreed, but that is fine, we are not made the same and we do not all have the same beliefs.

Much Love Yall,
Ethan

[HomerMcvie]

You're new here. Perhaps you should enjoy The Ledge the way it IS, rather than come here trying to change things. Didn't you once say that you like Seven Dunders better, anyway, but come here because they banned you?

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by Musicman408

It is either this board or maybe it was that OTHER one, but they had a little icon that showed if a thread had a certain ammount of views and or replies, and called them HOT TOPICS........

New posts
Hot thread with new posts
No new posts
Hot thread with no new posts
Thread is closed

[buckymcnix]

Originally Posted by Musicman408

It is either this board or maybe it was that OTHER one, but they had a little icon that showed if a thread had a certain ammount of views and or replies, and called them HOT TOPICS........

in the list of threads to the left there are icons that show hot topics already . . . .

Originally Posted by Musicman408

I didn't mean for this to be a popularity contest. People will post in whatever thread they may. The point of this thing was to just infuse a little bit of musical life into our ledge life................

you were suggesting giving "status names" to popular threads. . .how is that not a popularity contest?

and we are all here talking a lot about music and our musical lives - we ARE ARLEADY "infused" with music or we wouldn't be here right?
- and i don't see how a new little icon will give us any kind of meaningful musical lift. . .
am i missing something here?

Originally Posted by Musicman408

we are not made the same and we do not all have the same beliefs.

amen to that my brother

[Musicman408]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

You're new here. Perhaps you should enjoy The Ledge the way it IS, rather than come here trying to change things. Didn't you once say that you like Seven Dunders better, anyway, but come here because they banned you?

No no no. I never said that I liked Ledge any less than Dunders. Those were words put in my mouth be some other member to make it seem like that is what I said....

[ryan8472]

Lalalalalala...

OK: So we have gotten over the fact that this is not supposed to be a popularity thing, whatev. Let's poll the people and find the final concensus. If people want this, then we talk to Marty and Lis about it.

All those in favor of this, post YEA.

All opposed post NEA.

All who don't give a **** because it really doesn't matter anyways ( ), don't post.

[amber]

Originally Posted by ryan8472

Lalalalalala...

OK: So we have gotten over the fact that this is not supposed to be a popularity thing, whatev. Let's poll the people and find the final concensus. If people want this, then we talk to Marty and Lis about it.

All those in favor of this, post YEA.

All opposed post NEA.

All who don't give a **** because it really doesn't matter anyways ( ), don't post.

Yeah, cool. It is nice to see another person who didn't rush to judgement. Not that I think the idea is great, and I've outlined my reasons why,
but I appreciate the effort of the idea, and don't think people should necessarily be slammed down for trying new things. And I also think a vote is appropriate, to be fair. That is a good way to discern what people really want.
My point being, what if someone does come up with a new, great idea? It shouldn't be slammed out of hand. It should be slammed based on its merit! I haven't talked with Mr. Ryan recently, but I have just been reminded of one of my favorite things about him - openness. He's a nice guy, he listens to everyone, and then makes his judgement based on his opinion of the best things. Perfect, that is what everyone should do.

I have decided, for outlined reasons, that this isn't the best idea. But I don't know everything in the world, and don't represent the tastes of everyone.
The Ledge is super great, but I bet in part it was made so by the new ideas of various people. Not everyone has the best idea, but no one will know if you don't put your idea out there. Just saying. Right? Yeah? Someone could have the most brill idea ever, but if we are closed to the possibilities, and already think something is perfect - well, then we have become Stevie and her ideas of setlists. Which as we all know, is counterproductive and suckulous.

Goodness help the person who thinks anything is perfect.

[Musicman408]

I vote yea......