Ebay lameness, or normal?? - Page 2

BTFLCHLD · #16 06-13-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

I have two accounts, but I don't get involved with bidding on my own auctions, or shill bidding as it's called. What is actually more common and less easy to prove, is to get your friends or family to bid on your auction to push the price up. Illegal? No. Immoral - of course

I have had experiences with both of these practices. It does indeed transpire so, as with any ebay bidding, there are risks involved. If I truly want something, I usually follow-up as Amber mentioned (awaiting the final hours.) I do not place a flag on the item as the seller is notifed of said flags and I do not want them knowing I am considering a purchase. And, obviously, I never purchase from someone without a heavy track record.

estranged4life · #17 06-13-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

You ever seen those records before on ebay, Brian J. ?

have, Seen 'em several times and each time they have gone for roughly around $100

The rarest thing Fleetwood Mac related I have ever bid on (And won for $4.50) was an officially released audio cassette of the Buckingham/Nicks album on Polydor records (With a different track listing than the vinyl-Not to mention "Races Are Run" doesnt fade out, The band just quits playing in a "dead stop".)

Yeah, I never get into the shill bidding...I have only had 2 auctions up for bid since 2003 (Both were comic book lots that sold this past weekend) so I rarely sell as much as I purchase.

BTFLCHLD · #18 06-13-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost

How do you place a flag on an item?

By clicking on the "watch this item" link.

amber · #19 06-13-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life

have, Seen 'em several times and each time they have gone for roughly around $100

Whew! You've put my mind at ease. I've only been looking at ebay for a few months, and that was the first time I'd seen it.

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The rarest thing Fleetwood Mac related I have ever bid on (And won for $4.50) was an officially released audio cassette of the Buckingham/Nicks album on Polydor records (With a different track listing than the vinyl-Not to mention "Races Are Run" doesnt fade out, The band just quits playing in a "dead stop".)

Kick ass! I saw a cassette for sale the other day, but I don't know if it was like yours.

Trackie - that is because we are smarter than everyone else.

JK.

DrummerDeanna · #20 06-13-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

I was wondering about that, and I thought "that is so obvious that surely ebay would have strict structures in place to prevent that!"

So, no?!

Well hell - I've been on Ebay since 1998 and I have always wondered about the same thing - but never realized there wasn't anything in place to prevent that - guess I"m too trusting, and I don't think I've ever been taken in an auction...

But it'd be so easy to up bids on your own (or your friends) auctions - I guess it's naive of me to think people wouldn't do that

estranged4life · #21 06-13-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Whew! You've put my mind at ease. I've only been looking at ebay for a few months, and that was the first time I'd seen it.

of the 3 LP set over on gemm.com (Listed under "Unfounded Rumours"-Why is beyond me, Never knew it under a different title/moniker.) that is selling for $99

http://www.gemm.com/item/NICKS-c-STE.../GML485118755/

Unfounded Rumours (Uncirculated Rumours) / Special 3LP Box set - Super rare, Only 300 Made! 24 Rare remixes & Unreleased songs - LP'S Are Red Blue & Yellow

Here's another auction that recently ended, Surprised this LP didnt go for more $$$:

eBay: STEVIE NICKS More Uncirculated Rumours RARE OUTTAKES LP (item 4889486776 end time Jun-07-06 18:37:43 PDT)

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEVIE-NICKS-Mor...QQcmdZViewItem

amber · #22 06-13-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life

of the 3 LP set over on gemm.com (Listed under "Unfounded Rumours"-Why is beyond me, Never knew it under a different title/moniker.) that is selling for $99

http://www.gemm.com/item/NICKS-c-STE.../GML485118755/

Unfounded Rumours (Uncirculated Rumours) / Special 3LP Box set - Super rare, Only 300 Made! 24 Rare remixes & Unreleased songs - LP'S Are Red Blue & Yellow

Here's another auction that recently ended, Surprised thr LP didnt go for more $$$:

eBay: STEVIE NICKS More Uncirculated Rumours RARE OUTTAKES LP (item 4889486776 end time Jun-07-06 18:37:43 PDT)
http://cgi.ebay.com/STEVIE-NICKS-Mor...QQcmdZViewItem

Weird, I looked on Gemm last night and only found one of the records.

I checked the whole alphabetical list, too - so it seems like I should have seen it even if it was mislabeled.
But of course, this is officially one of your "skills".

Thank you! I still can't buy it, but at least someday if I can, I'll know it's out there.

estranged4life · #23 06-13-2006, 03:36 PM

a copy of the Buckingham/Nicks cassette, There is one up for auction on eBay at this time (Which provides the altered tracklisting in the item's summary)

eBay: Buckingham Nicks [Stevie Nicks Fleetwood Mac] Cassette (item 100500652298 end time Jun-17-06 11:10:53 PDT)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Buckingham-Nicks...QQcmdZViewItem

bretonbanquet · #24 06-13-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost

Oh right of course. I've always wondered, can they tell who is watching the item or do they just know that so many users are watching it?

The seller just gets a note of the number of watchers on each of his/her items - he/she can't tell who's watching.

The Tower · #25 06-13-2006, 05:08 PM

I have all three of these and they are NOT worth it.

I bought my copies back in the late 80's out of Goldmine magazine.

I also have "Hollywood" on vinyl and it is also not worth it. Although, I like Stevie's caterwauling on "Green Manalishi". *** ducks ***

amber · #26 06-13-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

I have all three of these and they are NOT worth it.

I bought my copies back in the late 80's out of Goldmine magazine.

I also have "Hollywood" on vinyl and it is also not worth it. Although, I like Stevie's caterwauling on "Green Manalishi". *** ducks ***

Really? I like those same songs on the CD's I have.

They must, for some reason, sound much more crappy than on my CDs. I'd be happy to take them off your hands.

seeker007nmss · #27 06-13-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

I have all three of these and they are NOT worth it.

I bought my copies back in the late 80's out of Goldmine magazine.

I also have "Hollywood" on vinyl and it is also not worth it. Although, I like Stevie's caterwauling on "Green Manalishi". *** ducks ***

Aw Goldmine, in the pre-internet days, it was always fun digging through some of the sellers tiny print to find goodies. I got mine in the 80's also and I think I paid around $60-$75 for the set. Hard to remember. They also came in normal black vinyl as well as colored vinyl.

The fun ones to look for in the vinyl arena:

Aussie B/N with alternate cover
Pic Disc Belladonna
Pic Disc Wild Heart

These three gave me the most trouble tracking them down. The Aussie ones show up periodically, (Hard to find before the net) - the picture discs are the most rare and hardest to find - IMO.

And yes, by waiting till the last minute you get the best price on stuff. Why? Just the way it is. I think it is because many auctions are missed, unless you search daily, and by not drawing attention to the fact you are interested, you can jumpin at the last 10 secs and get a better price. Cuts down on bidding wars. If someone else sees you are interested, they can drive the price up. If they don't see you coming, they don't have time to do so. I rarely bid until the last sec. And many do the same things. (HI Jill )

amber · #28 06-13-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

And yes, by waiting till the last minute you get the best price on stuff. Why? Just the way it is. I think it is because many auctions are missed, unless you search daily, and by not drawing attention to the fact you are interested, you can jumpin at the last 10 secs and get a better price. Cuts down on bidding wars. If someone else sees you are interested, they can drive the price up. If they don't see you coming, they don't have time to do so. I rarely bid until the last sec. And many do the same things. (HI Jill )

Finally, an expert confirms what I suspected. And in the process shows that many, many, many people are morons.

seeker007nmss · #29 06-13-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Finally, an expert confirms what I suspected. And in the process shows that many, many, many people are morons.

Yes Morons. But you play the game to get the stuff at the best price. If some guy bids $5 on a Stevie thing you want and you are willing to bid $50. Here what will happen. (Assuming you both really want it- and he will go $60) You bid early - $50. It goes to $6.00. He will keep bidding until he goes $52.50 which is above your budget. OR You wait until the last 10 seconds. You bid $50.00. It goes to $6. He trys to jump back in (And will 99% of the time go to $20.- not his max). If he makes it, you win at $7, if he runs out of time, you win at $6. Now, which is more moronic? Losing it at $52.50? or winning the item you really want at $7

amber · #30 06-13-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

Yes Morons. But you play the game to get the stuff at the best price. If some guy bids $5 on a Stevie thing you want and you are willing to bid $50. Here what will happen. (Assuming you both really want it- and he will go $60) You bid early - $50. It goes to $6.00. He will keep bidding until he goes $52.50 which is above your budget. OR You wait until the last 10 seconds. You bid $50.00. It goes to $6. He trys to jump back in (And will 99% of the time go to $20.- not his max). If he makes it, you win at $7, if he runs out of time, you win at $6. Now, which is more moronic? Losing it at $52.50? or winning the item you really want at $7

Yeah, I know. That's what I was saying.

It seems pretty obvious to me.