Ebay lameness, or normal??

amber · #1 06-13-2006, 01:26 PM

Okay, so I really, really want this. I got a record player a few months back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

But besides that, my point is - this thing started out at 25 dollars, why do people keep bidding way before the time runs out? It just drives the price way up.

If they'd started bidding just a bit before time ran out, someone could have gotten these at reasonable prices. Heck, when I last looked last night, it was still at 53 dollars. Now it's almost 100 dollars.
Is there something I'm missing? I mean, a reason to bid on things way before hand even though you know you'll drive the price way up? Do people with more money do it to take away the possibility that people will be able to outbid them? I guess sometimes it wouldn't make a difference, the price would go up high anyway - but I've also seen people just start bidding at the last, and the price stayed lower.

DavidMn · #2 06-13-2006, 01:31 PM

I've never really been able to figure E-Bay out in that way. It makes no sense sometimes, I agree.

DrummerDeanna · #3 06-13-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Okay, so I really, really want this. I got a record player a few months back.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

But besides that, my point is - this thing started out at 25 dollars, why do people keep bidding way before the time runs out? It just drives the price way up.

If they'd started bidding just a bit before time ran out, someone could have gotten these at reasonable prices. Heck, when I last looked last night, it was still at 53 dollars. Now it's almost 100 dollars.
Is there something I'm missing? I mean, a reason to bid on things way before hand even though you know you'll drive the price way up? Do people with more money do it to take away the possibility that people will be able to outbid them? I guess sometimes it wouldn't make a difference, the price would go up high anyway - but I've also seen people just start bidding at the last, and the price stayed lower.

There could be several factors at play here.

Ebay Ignoramouses....people who don't know that bidding high early pretty much shoots down any chance of a reasonably priced deal in the end.

Maybe it is someone who is willing to pay more and doesn't mind driving the price up...

overall though I just hate what Ebay has become - I miss the old days.

amber · #4 06-13-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

There could be several factors at play here.

Ebay Ignoramouses....people who don't know that bidding high early pretty much shoots down any chance of a reasonably priced deal in the end.

Maybe it is someone who is willing to pay more and doesn't mind driving the price up...

overall though I just hate what Ebay has become - I miss the old days.

I have no idea what it used to be. I just started looking at things. If I can figure out that bidding early drives the price up, surely others can. Maybe I'm just bitter because I want those records.

David · #5 06-13-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Okay, so I really, really want this. I got a record player a few months back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

But besides that, my point is - this thing started out at 25 dollars, why do people keep bidding way before the time runs out? It just drives the price way up.

If they'd started bidding just a bit before time ran out, someone could have gotten these at reasonable prices. Heck, when I last looked last night, it was still at 53 dollars. Now it's almost 100 dollars.
Is there something I'm missing? I mean, a reason to bid on things way before hand even though you know you'll drive the price way up? Do people with more money do it to take away the possibility that people will be able to outbid them? I guess sometimes it wouldn't make a difference, the price would go up high anyway - but I've also seen people just start bidding at the last, and the price stayed lower.

The mint condition looks great on that item. But why do you want it? Are you a vinyl completist? The sound quality on the demos is horrible on all three albums--this was compiled well before the current trend of better-sounding demos.

If you're a vinyl completist, you might also want the original vinyl bootlegs of:

1. Almanac (1979)
2. Cotton Bowl Dallas (1978)
3. Sin City Las Vegas (1977)
4. City of the Angels Las Vegas (1977)

& others I'm forgetting, including all the radio syndicate & radio station DJ vinyl copies of radio specials (like Westwood One & Robert W. Morgan) that have aired since the 1970s. I used to have a bunch of those because in those days it was the only way to hear some really old interviews that you missed on radio.

amber · #6 06-13-2006, 01:44 PM

^^^^

I want those because I want to be able to play them on my record player in my front room, not just my computer in the other room, because I like the covers, and because I want more records. Also, I've never seen them before. They appear to be fairly rare.
You're acting like it's strange to want those.

bretonbanquet · #7 06-13-2006, 01:48 PM

I'm not sure bidding early pushes the price up. Sometimes if you put your top bid in early, everyone else just won't bother and there are no more bids. You just never know how the bidding will go.

The thing to do is to bid the maximum you're happy with paying and if you get it, you get it. I don't think it makes much difference if you bid early or late. If there's someone else out there who wants to pay more, he'll pay more regardless of when you bid.

Ebay is pretty weird like that - I've seen identical items go for a huge range of prices, for no apparent reason. For months I was looking for a copy of Jeremy Spencer's first album - the one with the rest of the Mac on it - and I saw copies go for anywhere between $50-100, dozens of times. Then I picked one up for about $25 because nobody else seemed to want it

I sell a lot of stuff too, and people's bidding never ever ceases to amaze me...

This Stevie thing looks quite rare - I think maybe it was always going to be expensive

amber · #8 06-13-2006, 01:57 PM

^^^

That may not be true, there's always the last minute snipe, but I guess what you said makes sense.

Like I said, I'm bitter.

DavidMn · #9 06-13-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

^^^

That may not be true, there's always the last minute snipe.

Like I said, I'm bitter.

Well, hopefully it will come around again for you.

bretonbanquet · #10 06-13-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

^^^

That may not be true, there's always the last minute snipe, but I guess what you said makes sense.

Like I said, I'm bitter.

Bitterness is character-building, hence the immense stature of my own character

It'll reappear soon enough - you'll get it next time

amber · #11 06-13-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

Bitterness is character-building, hence the immense stature of my own character

It'll reappear soon enough - you'll get it next time

that's what I'm afraid of, that all three will never come around again. That's probably stupid. I looked around online for other possible sellers, and one place had one of the albums only. Also, that one album was $62.

Have any others of you seen this for sale? How often? *you frequent ebayers*.

BTFLCHLD · #12 06-13-2006, 02:12 PM

Anyone see Griffin on D-List? She offered a weekend at her house that was won for $73,000! Everyone backed out with excuses, and she received $0!

estranged4life · #13 06-13-2006, 02:38 PM

sometimes those sellers on eBay will have multiple accounts for the only reason to drive up the prices of their auctions, thus making a profit...Illegal? Yeah. Immoral? Yeah...But it does happen.

As for me, I tend to look mainly at the auctions that are under the "Buy it Now" banner...Found many a great & rare disc that way.

As for the LP's in question, I have cd's sourced from those vinyls and they have a sound comparible to that of long fingernails on chalkboard (They just sold for $98.88-tsk, tsk, tsk)

bretonbanquet · #14 06-13-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life

sometimes those sellers on eBay will have multiple accounts for the only reason to drive up the prices of their auctions, thus making a profit...Illegal? Yeah. Immoral? Yeah...But it does happen.

As for me, I tend to look mainly at the auctions that are under the "Buy it Now" banner...Found many a great & rare disc that way.

As for the LP's in question, I have cd's sourced from hose vinyls and they have a sound comparible to that of long fingernails on chalkboard.

I have two accounts, but I don't get involved with bidding on my own auctions, or shill bidding as it's called. What is actually more common and less easy to prove, is to get your friends or family to bid on your auction to push the price up. Illegal? No. Immoral - of course

amber · #15 06-13-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life

sometimes those sellers on eBay will have multiple accounts for the only reason to drive up the prices of their auctions, thus making a profit...Illegal? Yeah. Immoral? Yeah...But it does happen.

I was wondering about that, and I thought "that is so obvious that surely ebay would have strict structures in place to prevent that!"

So, no?!

I have those songs on CD, too - some sound good. Like Blue Water. I forget which others. I just want to be able to play them on my record player, which is in another room from my computer. I just want them. Wait, what are hose vinyls?

You ever seen those records before on ebay, Brian J. ?