Aren't We Being A Little Hard On The Band? - Page 7

The Catdancer · #91 05-02-2006, 01:22 AM

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"Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" on this last tour (she can't hit the high notes anymore- or chooses not to)

I think she chooses not to. Just listen Rock 'n Roll, she's awesome which makes me think:"Why doesn't she do a whole show like that?" Full of energy and high notes. I wish she would sing Edge or SB like that, or Rhiannon. Rock 'n Roll proves she can do it.....

Jyqm · #92 05-02-2006, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Okay, but you do realize that when discussing rock artists, there's only on EC, and his first name is Eric...

No, he's Clapton, and you can call him Clapton, because that's his real name.

(Besides, the man goes by the name Elvis Costello, and you want to complain that there's only room for one "EC" in rock music?!)

Jyqm · #93 05-02-2006, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MacMan

In this type of instance, It must be all about the cash or deal struck between the artist and the organization putting it the reissues. I'm sure there has got to be negotiations with the artist on what the labels will pay them to release remasters and all the other bonus stuff. Maybe Fleetwood Mac want's too much money...

That's certainly a possibility, in which case, once again, shame on them.

amber · #94 05-02-2006, 02:39 AM

At this point, it's just really hard for me to buy that they are all trying to get a bunch of money. I'm not saying it isn't true, but it just doesn't make sense to me that it would be a very very strong motivation for them. It seems especially Ell and Ess, who seem to share a good portion of the decision making about the catalogue and new stuff, should be almost as rich as god by this point. Is it their people who are doing the negotiating independently of much of the artists input? Do they discuss these things heavily? Is it like hollywood agents who just push, push, push to get the most money for their actor clients? Is it because they have to pay all the lawyers and bookers and whatever beaurocracy is involved in this crap?
I feel there is a big chunk of this whole "FM are managing themselves and their material and their concerts and their new albums stupidly" thing that we must be missing. I'd love to see all the stupid paperwork and numbers and stuff. Very, very much.

I know a lot of you others believe it's largely about money and stupidity, and I'm not saying that absolutely could not be the case, but it just doesn't gel with me as the only explanations. These people aren't stupid, and they aren't novices, and they aren't people who don't care about their music. There must be pieces of the puzzle missing. Even Mick, a well known money grubbing whore, couldn't be responsible for all this mess.
DAMMIT! *sigh*

chiliD · #95 05-02-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

(Besides, the man goes by the name Elvis Costello, and you want to complain that there's only room for one "EC" in rock music?!)

The supposed Mr. Costello's name is LEGALLY Declan McManus and, yes, there's only ONE EC (that matters) in rock music!

BTFLCHLD · #96 05-02-2006, 10:11 AM

y e s thanks to lindsey!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKGZJOfrNk

oh and lindsey, stevie was not ready!
does she look pissed or what????

badboy!

Jyqm · #97 05-02-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

and, yes, there's only ONE EC (that matters) in rock music!

Oh, come now, Clapton's career hasn't been that bad for that long.

David · #98 05-02-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Okay, but you do realize that when discussing rock artists, there's only on EC, and his first name is Eric...

Costello's a far greater songwriter than Clapton.

But of course Costello's a far greater songwriter than virtually everybody in rock.

Johnny Stew · #99 05-02-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

At this point, it's just really hard for me to buy that they are all trying to get a bunch of money. I'm not saying it isn't true, but it just doesn't make sense to me that it would be a very very strong motivation for them.

Plus, it seems like a little of the ol' "cutting off your nose to spite your face" line of thinking, if they're denying themselves a chance to make ANY profit on a long-ago recorded album, simply because they want more money from it.

I have a feeling it's somewhat out of their hands, and they're largely relying on other people to make it happen.

BTFLCHLD · #**100** 05-02-2006, 03:00 PM

maybe they are busy putting together
the next round of fmtouring? ever think of that

maybe stevie will one-day record
a performance for offering...
soundstage would be wonderful
as lindsey looked and sounded gorgeous
should that be a concern of msnicks

GypsySongbird · #**101** 05-02-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

The supposed Mr. Costello's name is LEGALLY Declan McManus and, yes, there's only ONE EC (that matters) in rock music!

here here!

i dont think i am the first to say

Clapton is God!

amber · #**102** 05-02-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Plus, it seems like a little of the ol' "cutting off your nose to spite your face" line of thinking, if they're denying themselves a chance to make ANY profit on a long-ago recorded album, simply because they want more money from it.

I have a feeling it's somewhat out of their hands, and they're largely relying on other people to make it happen.

But why? I mean, of course people work for them and take care of things, but who's hands is it in? Is it so far out of their hands they couldn't do anything?
Like I said, I think there's a puzzle piece missing.

Johnny Stew · #**103** 05-02-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

But why? I mean, of course people work for them and take care of things, but who's hands is it in? Is it so far out of their hands they couldn't do anything?

Well, I think remastering albums is usually left to the professionals to do. I'm sure Stevie or Lindsey could sit in on some of the remastering, if they chose to, but otherwise they have to let someone else take care of it. And I'm sure, as far as rights go, it's a matter for lawyers to haggle out, and not the artists themselves.

So it's up to Stevie & Lindsey to give the greenlight, of course, but I think beyond that, it's out of their hands.

amber · #**104** 05-02-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Well, I think remastering albums is usually left to the professionals to do. I'm sure Stevie or Lindsey could sit in on some of the remastering, if they chose to, but otherwise they have to let someone else take care of it. And I'm sure, as far as rights go, it's a matter for lawyers to haggle out, and not the artists themselves.

So it's up to Stevie & Lindsey to give the greenlight, of course, but I think beyond that, it's out of their hands.

Um, wouldn't Ell and Ess be the ones to tell someone to tell someone to remaster their albums, or compile live DVD's? And that's what I'm saying, there are lawyers, but don't they work for Ell and Ess? Don't they have to do what Ell and Ess want them to do?

**mylittledemon** · #**105** 05-02-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lala

Hi all,
I understand you're all frustrated, trust me I am too. But aren't we being a little hard on these guys? .

No, we're not.