Aren't We Being A Little Hard On The Band?

Lala · #1 04-30-2006, 07:24 PM

Hi all,

I've been reading all of threads regarding disapointment over lack of new/remastered material. I understand you're all frustrated, trust me I am too. But aren't we being a little hard on these guys? There have been some more personal attacks on band members, calling them "idiots", etc. And it made me stop and think, aren't we all here because we love this band?

Sure, I'm disapointed over the lack of insight between management and the band in terms to releasing more matterial. But, I love this band. I love this band because they have touched me musically. I love this band because their words and music have helped me through some hard times. I love this band because, when I'm having a bad day, I can throw on one of their albums, crank it, and feel a little better.

I'm sure some of you have similar feelings.

I guess my point is, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I've certainly been guilty of saying things on this board that I wouldn't dare say to a band member's face. But, should we be a little more careful in posting as if they were reading? I just feel like, if Stevie on a whim checked out the board, and caught her fans calling her an idiot, she'd be less motivated to push for anything of hers to be remastered.

I don't know. Maybe I'm totally off base and shouldn't have posted this. Keep in mind I'm hopped up on cold medicine and kind of bored.

I

Fleetwood Mac. I am grateful for what has been released, and will be grateful for whatever else is.

amber · #2 04-30-2006, 07:59 PM

We're hardest on those we love, and become more angry than with someone we didn't care about when they don't live up to their potential.
I, personally, am not mad, but I see other people's points.

foxyluva · #3 04-30-2006, 09:52 PM

I agree - but I do see other peoples points. But calling them idiots is ridiculous

SortaSavageLike · #4 04-30-2006, 10:06 PM

They have failed us. And therefore... they must DIE!

Nixxxed · #5 04-30-2006, 10:36 PM

You're probably right - a calmer tone might be nice. But on the other hand, it's Fleetwood Mac we're talking about. I don't think civility and rational discussion is even in their (collective) vocabulary, is it? It's only fitting that it should be the same for those who idolize them.

(My attempt at humor to lighten the mood. Now back to the fray...)

seeker007nmss · #6 04-30-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed

You're probably right - a calmer tone might be nice. But on the other hand, it's Fleetwood Mac we're talking about. I don't think civility and rational discussion is even in their (collective) vocabulary, is it? It's only fitting that it should be the same for those who idolize them.

(My attempt at humor to lighten the mood. Now back to the fray...)

And now a Kitten break......

Lala · #7 05-01-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

And now a Kitten break......

Awww! I want one!

BTFLCHLD · #8 05-01-2006, 01:12 AM

Jyqm · #9 05-01-2006, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lala

Hi all,

I've been reading all of threads regarding disapointment over lack of new/remastered material. I understand you're all frustrated, trust me I am too. But aren't we being a little hard on these guys? There have been some more personal attacks on band members, calling them "idiots", etc. And it made me stop and think, aren't we all here because we love this band?

Sure, I'm disapointed over the lack of insight between management and the band in terms to releasing more matterial. But, I love this band. I love this band because they have touched me musically. I love this band because their words and music have helped me through some hard times. I love this band because, when I'm having a bad day, I can throw on one of their albums, crank it, and feel a little better.

I'm sure some of you have similar feelings.

I guess my point is, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I've certainly been guilty of saying things on this board that I wouldn't dare say to a band member's face. But, should we be a little more careful in posting as if they were reading? I just feel like, if Stevie on a whim checked out the board, and caught her fans calling her an idiot, she'd be less motivated to push for anything of hers to be remastered.

I don't know. Maybe I'm totally off base and shouldn't have posted this. Keep in mind I'm hopped up on cold medicine and kind of bored.

I

Fleetwood Mac. I am grateful for what has been released, and will be grateful for whatever else is.

I've never understood the attitude of "I like this band, so I won't complain about anything they ever do." Do people carry this over into other aspects of their artistic lives? "Dallas has always been such a great show and given us so many memories, you shouldn't complain that last season was all just a dream!"

People have a right to be disappointed and upset about Fleetwood Mac's idiotic business decisions, and to express that disappointment and frustration here. That's half the point of a fan forum. And the last thing we ought to be doing is censoring ourselves out of fear that someone from the band might be reading. I can't even imagine how boring this place would become.

As far as catching more flies with honey than vinegar, like most truisms, that's not always true. But again, this is just people expressing their frustration on a fan forum. Nobody's trying to catch any flies with their posts here. If anyone decides to submit this kind of question to John or anyone else, I'm sure it will be phrased much more nicely. (And if nobody's come up with a re-write yet, Lis, I'll gladly take a stab at it.)

Mageboy25 · #10 05-01-2006, 03:23 AM

Oh fuuck the damn idiots

. I want the FULL DAMN Mirage, Tusk, Tango, and I know they filmed BTM, concerts all on DVD!

Sahara · #11 05-01-2006, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lala

Hi all,

I've been reading all of threads regarding disapointment over lack of new/remastered material. I understand you're all frustrated, trust me I am too. But aren't we being a little hard on these guys? There have been some more personal attacks on band members, calling them "idiots", etc. And it made me stop and think, aren't we all here because we love this band?

Sure, I'm disapointed over the lack of insight between management and the band in terms to releasing more matterial. But, I love this band. I love this band because they have touched me musically. I love this band because their words and music have helped me through some hard times. I love this band because, when I'm having a bad day, I can throw on one of their albums, crank it, and feel a little better.

I'm sure some of you have similar feelings.

I guess my point is, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I've certainly been guilty of saying things on this board that I wouldn't dare say to a band member's face. But, should we be a little more careful in posting as if they were reading? I just feel like, if Stevie on a whim checked out the board, and caught her fans calling her an idiot, she'd be less motivated to push for anything of hers to be remastered.

I don't know. Maybe I'm totally off base and shouldn't have posted this. Keep in mind I'm hopped up on cold medicine and kind of bored.

I

Fleetwood Mac. I am grateful for what has been released, and will be grateful for whatever else is.

I agree -- but I'm still a little disappointed! I guess I'm mad at what's happening, but we don't really know who's responsible -- be it the band or management or whoever.

Obviously the Mac are still awesome and will always be awesome. If only we had some new insight into the awesomeness.

Thank you for being the voice of reason here and reminding us what the real issues are.

Now come on. Let's have some more kittens.

PS: Calling anyone an idiot is just plain rude.

Jyqm · #12 05-01-2006, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sahara

I agree -- but I'm still a little disappointed! I guess I'm mad at what's happening, but we don't really know who's responsible -- be it the band or management or whoever.

It's all of them. You can't blame solely the band, because hardly any bands take it upon themselves to organize these types of releases. Nor can you blame solely the management and other personal bureaucrats, because these people were hired by the members of the band. They've all surrounded themselves with this fortress of completely worthless bureaucracy that does far more to hinder this band from doing anything worthwhile than it does to help. And we can also blame Warner/Reprise for not pushing for more of these projects, for whatever reason. There's plenty of blame to go around for everyone.

BTFLCHLD · #13 05-01-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm

People have a right to be disappointed and upset about Fleetwood Mac's idiotic business decisions, and to express that disappointment and frustration here. That's half the point of a fan forum. And the last thing we ought to be doing is censoring ourselves out of fear that someone from the band might be reading. I can't even imagine how boring this place would become.

is anyone stopping you? censoring you?
lala has that same 'right' to express her
disappointment at the disappointment