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Old 12-17-2005, 06:44 PM
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I've never understood why, or even how fanfic could be written about real people.
But that's sort of the point of it being fiction. Yes they're real people, but you take them and stick them in various situations that you conjure up and go with it. I sort of get a kick out of FM fan fiction, I think it can be an amusing outlet.

To be honest I don't even remember when we had that on this site though...i must have been in my 'all i do is take care of the baby' phase. I would guess maybe difficulties arose when one person writes something that pushes the envelope a bit-- they may think it's fine because 'it's just a silly story', while another person says 'that is so wrong, how can you even write about stuff like that, what if so and so reads it?' and so on. it's a fine line, and everybody has different boundaries as to what they think is 'okay' to write about. I'd imagine it might've stirred up some conflict.

but anyway that's just my two cents.

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Old 12-17-2005, 06:55 PM
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I know that there is a lot of Beatles fan fiction out there, but I have never heard of Fleetwood Mac Fan fiction. It might be something that you could start.
sorry, this is totally off topic, but i love your sig pic! ive never seen that picture before!
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:35 PM
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I've never understood why, or even how fanfic could be written about real people. If you're going to write about characters in a show or something, I could see that. I used to be active in the XFiles fanfic world... Certain stories were good, others, not so good. Most of it was written about Mulder nailing Scully, or whatever, since philes are a bunch of pervs.

But, yeah, real people fic? Never got it. Never will.
roman à clef -- popular literary type:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_%C3%A0_clef

These things are enjoyable to the extent that 1) you are interested in the real-life people or events being fictionalized, & 2) the writer is good. My favorite roman à clef is a novel called "Curtains" by Michael Korda, which depicts in a fictionalized account the West End actors of the 1940s & 1950s -- the Mayfair crowd of Shakespeareans at the Old Vic, iincluding the Oliviers, Gielgud, the Richardsons, the Redgraves, the Quayles, &c.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:20 PM
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roman Ã* clef -- popular literary type:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_%C3%A0_clef

These things are enjoyable to the extent that 1) you are interested in the real-life people or events being fictionalized, & 2) the writer is good. My favorite roman Ã* clef is a novel called "Curtains" by Michael Korda, which depicts in a fictionalized account the West End actors of the 1940s & 1950s -- the Mayfair crowd of Shakespeareans at the Old Vic, iincluding the Oliviers, Gielgud, the Richardsons, the Redgraves, the Quayles, &c.
I ve never heard of Curtains, it sounds a fantastic book. Hopefully Korda didn't say too much about the Oliviers... It could have been embarassing.

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Old 12-18-2005, 04:08 AM
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But that's sort of the point of it being fiction. Yes they're real people, but you take them and stick them in various situations that you conjure up and go with it. I sort of get a kick out of FM fan fiction, I think it can be an amusing outlet.

To be honest I don't even remember when we had that on this site though...i must have been in my 'all i do is take care of the baby' phase. I would guess maybe difficulties arose when one person writes something that pushes the envelope a bit-- they may think it's fine because 'it's just a silly story', while another person says 'that is so wrong, how can you even write about stuff like that, what if so and so reads it?' and so on. it's a fine line, and everybody has different boundaries as to what they think is 'okay' to write about. I'd imagine it might've stirred up some conflict.

but anyway that's just my two cents.

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I've read a few that have been very tongue in cheek and hilarious. I just think that some of them take it a step too far. JMO
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:20 PM
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But that's sort of the point of it being fiction.
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Well, true, but to me it just seems... weird writing about actual people, as opposed to made up characters. To each their own, I guess!
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:54 PM
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I've written fanfic myself and find reading good ones enjoyable. Sadly, in the past couple of years, I haven't had time to do so. I'm pretty sure the fanfic group still exists although I haven't read it in a while.

I'm not quite sure why so many people find the concept of writing about real people so appalling. I didn't see too many people popping veins over Shakespeare in Love, for instance. Indeed, it won an Academy Award for Best Picture. I think the thing that usually bothers people about Stevie/Lindsey fanfic is that it's usually written in "romance novel" fashion and involves sex. The romance genre is dominated by women and thus the vast majority of men dismiss it - and also some women themselves, who have either bought into the misogynist diminishment of the genre or just aren't into it, lol. If you are one who enjoys romance novels and still find fanfic disturbing, it's usually because you prefer to keep any sexual fantasies involving real people in your head. That's understandable.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:09 PM
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I'm not quite sure why so many people find the concept of writing about real people so appalling. I didn't see too many people popping veins over Shakespeare in Love, for instance. Indeed, it won an Academy Award for Best Picture. I think the thing that usually bothers people about Stevie/Lindsey fanfic is that it's usually written in "romance novel" fashion and involves sex. The romance genre is dominated by women and thus the vast majority of men dismiss it - and also some women themselves, who have either bought into the misogynist diminishment of the genre or just aren't into it, lol. If you are one who enjoys romance novels and still find fanfic disturbing, it's usually because you prefer to keep any sexual fantasies involving real people in your head. That's understandable.

That's true. The vast majority of fanfiction writers are women -- I don't remember the figure -- and those who write slash fiction are almost _always_ women.
No, I don't get that either. But it's interesting.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:41 AM
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I've written fanfic myself and find reading good ones enjoyable. Sadly, in the past couple of years, I haven't had time to do so. I'm pretty sure the fanfic group still exists although I haven't read it in a while.

I'm not quite sure why so many people find the concept of writing about real people so appalling. I didn't see too many people popping veins over Shakespeare in Love, for instance. Indeed, it won an Academy Award for Best Picture. I think the thing that usually bothers people about Stevie/Lindsey fanfic is that it's usually written in "romance novel" fashion and involves sex. The romance genre is dominated by women and thus the vast majority of men dismiss it - and also some women themselves, who have either bought into the misogynist diminishment of the genre or just aren't into it, lol. If you are one who enjoys romance novels and still find fanfic disturbing, it's usually because you prefer to keep any sexual fantasies involving real people in your head. That's understandable.
Uh, well, not much chance that Shakespeare would get to see that movie about himself, is there?
Whereas if you put your stories about living celebs on the net, there is a (tiny!) chance that they might come across them and read them. I guess that's what makes people feel uncomfortable about it. It is the same thing as preferring to keep those fantasies in your head: you don't want the other person to know about it, you don't want to embarrass them or yourself with it. But to each their own, really. If you don't like them nobody's forcing you to read them.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:16 AM
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:35 AM
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Oh well, if she can laugh about herself a little, I guess it would be ok!
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:48 AM
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I'm not quite sure why so many people find the concept of writing about real people so appalling... I think the thing that usually bothers people about Stevie/Lindsey fanfic is that it's usually written in "romance novel" fashion and involves sex... If you are one who enjoys romance novels and still find fanfic disturbing, it's usually because you prefer to keep any sexual fantasies involving real people in your head. That's understandable.

I see your point. Actually, I like reading romance novels (and am in the finishing stages of my own romance novel - though it's not typical of the genre by any means) and the fact that these fanfic stories are about real people isn't what bothered me about them (obviously, since I even wrote one myself... :cough: :cough: but we won't go there. ). My biggest gripe was the poor quality of much of the writing, but also the constant depictions of Kristen Buckingham as the "evil woman" or stories involving her death. Another irritating fact is that most Fleetwood Mac fanfiction writers seem to have tunnel vision. If it isn't strictly a love story between Stevie and Lindsey, it's not worthwhile to them.

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My biggest gripe was the poor quality of much of the writing, but also the constant depictions of Kristen Buckingham as the "evil woman" or stories involving her death.
I have to agree with you there. Since starting this thread I've done some research into it, and tunnel vision is _definitely_ the phrase that springs to mind...

I guess respect is the most important thing if you're going to write something like this.

Kudos on the novel by the way -- I've attempted several myself but ... well ...
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Oh well, if she can laugh about herself a little, I guess it would be ok!
I sincerely doubt that's the case. BTW, I love your site!
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Oh well, if she can laugh about herself a little, I guess it would be ok!
She seemed to think it was pretty hysterical when Letterman was poking fun at her back in the '80s, and she's good friends with Sandra Bernhard, who's lampooned and parodied Stevie countless times over the years... so I think she probably has a pretty good sense of humour about herself.

Come to think of it, in 1997, Christine said that one of the things she was happiest about, in regards to the band's reunion, was seeing that Stevie's ability to laugh at herself had returned and that she was fun to be around again.
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