Dumbest Things Lindsey Has Ever Said Onstage

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Lux

She has said that certain songs are about people she didn't even know when she wrote them.

For example

I can say I do not remember this example - but I caould very well be wrong as senility is setting in

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

Good points. The doe-eyed "ThisIsSeeeeeeeeerious" look is really quite the spectacle.

as opposed to "Isn't that WEEEIIIIRRRDDDDDDD?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!!!!" Come on - they all have their moments

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I flip flop on whether I blame him - but I consistently think it was a rotten thing to do. I also have issues with the whole santimonious vibe that you and others portray that everyone was nuts but LB or that he was nuts to a lesser degree - almost like he was the only ounce of sanity and the rest were just jerks. I mean CM certainly was not like that and La Nicks tried to get her act together and put aside her personal drama of being immediately out of rehab and launched straight into the record and subsequent tour. I think that is unfair and paints LB in too sympathetic a light than the facts suggest. But, if people want to think that he was a martyr to the band and that probably means mostly Stevie's sheer unbridled craziness - they can

Lindsey and Christine were the only sane ones back then, IMO. Stevie came across as cold and unbearable, Mick came across as an annoying and greedy coke fiend, and John...I have no opinion on, really. Obviously Lindsey was a bit more smart than the others if he chose to leave such a ****ty situation.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

as opposed to "Isn't that WEEEIIIIRRRDDDDDDD?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!!!!" Come on - they all have their moments

I don't find it as annoying as her wide-eyed interviews where she expresses the emotional depth of a seven year old.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Lux

Remember her describing when Lindsey's father passed? I don't know how she managed but somehow it became about her and what she had to go through when she handed him the phone.

Knowing her, she probably wrote a song about it.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Lux

Remember her describing when Lindsey's father passed? I don't know how she managed but somehow it became about her and what she had to go through when she handed him the phone.

I remember the story - I do not remember it was about her at all - she was describing LB's grief and how hard it was to hand him the phone knowing he was going to go through that. But, make of that what you will - though it is a little silly and completely unsupported to say La Nicks made that all about herself I think she cannot win for losing with you And she wrote a song about that? If she did, she certainly had met Mr. buckingham Thus, my question in response to your statement "She has said that certain songs are about people she didn't even know when she wrote them" - not Diss' response

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

I don't find it as annoying as her wide-eyed interviews where she expresses the emotional depth of a seven year old.

I suggest the phrase "Isn't that WEEEIIIIRRRDDDDDDD?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!!!!" in that tone is the dialect and vocabulary of a seven year old But, whatever

[glitter_fades]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think and have always thought that the remaining four had much more of a right to be mad at LB for leaving. I mean he withdrew at the last minute and left them in a bind. There really is no two ways about that and that is how it was not matter what reasons he said publicly. I mean, to hear LB in some of those quotes, he just sounds like sour grapes to me. FM moved on because they had to - he left them no choice. I get the impression some people think they should not have or that they did was some sort of horrible and rude thing. Again, LB left them high and dry; what were they supposed to do - never talk about it - LB certainly did not follow that axiom If someone did that to me, I would be a little angry with them. But, the band has moved on past it, so I guess we should as well

Edit - part of the original did not post I also wanted to say I know that LB alleged conflict in the band and a hostile work environment as reasons for not wanting to go on the road, where he felt it would be worse. But, I have always wondered why the remaining four were willing to live with that alleged strife, but not LB. CM has said since like the 70's that she was ready to quit. La Nicks could have continued in her solo stuff and really came back to FM out of loyalty and, I think, because she really likes FM. Mick,. well, he is always ready to put alot aside for $$$$ And John, who knows. Interestingly, I think there was some flickering of the LB SN romance thing (what else is knew ) on some level and that was too much for LB to live through again. Maybe Stevie jilted him - who knows - but it was telling that she said afterward that they "finally broke up" and he replied "she'd been with lots of guys after me" or something like that. I mean I just can't help but feel that his actions were similar to those of a jilted lover. But, that is my opinion and I do not expect anyone (save most of Nancy's board shippers ) to agree with me.

I'm sure there was still a lot of tension between those two at that time. It must have been hard for both of them. As far as who had a right to be mad or who had sour grapes, I see what happened during the Tango era a little differently. I remember reading things before and after Tango was released that made it clear to me Lindsey didn't really want to be involved in any of it. My impression was that he got involved out of loyalty to everyone else. Before anyone thinks they have to defend Stevie, I like Stevie, ok? I have to admit I don't understand why people think Stevie's the only one who ever displayed unselfish loyalty to Fleetwood Mac. Is it just because she juggled a few contributions on two Mac albums alongside her a solo career? True, she never left the band "officially" until after Lindsey did, but I don't compare what he contributes to the band in the same category. I don't think they asked him to do another album after 5 years layoff just to have him phone in some guitar parts and vocals.

Are there any other fans who remember likewise how this unfolded instead of from hindsight? It must be hard to understand for people who've become recent fans and might be blinded by Stevie's solo fame. Lest we forget, her working on Mirage was alongside the birth of her solo career. She was smart not to leave then, even with Bella Donna going to #1. Ever hear of the sophomore jinx? By the time Tango came about, hate to say it, but Stevie's solo career was waning. She was getting a lot of negative press about her obvious drug problems and she was starting to go downhill. Even though there was an attempt to get her back on track, Stevie was past her peak, imo. At that time, being with FM again was like a shot in the arm for her entire image. Her solo career was stalled including her songwriting. From everyone's admission her contributions to Tango were meager.

I don't know where I read or heard it, but when Tango was in the works, I remember Lindsey saying he didn't know how far he was going to go with his contributions. I remember talk of him not wanting to tour well before the legendary blow up and his alleged quitting. I also remember him saying he was fired. To this day, has he ever said he quit? I remember knowing he wanted the band to hold off touring. The fact that Rick and Billy were already waiting in the wings told me it didn't unfold as simply as it appears to people who read about it in hindsight. I feel like I'm out on a limb here. Am I the only one who remembers things happening this way?

I also remember Stevie giving a few smarmy interviews back then. In one she commented on Lindsey's uncertainty staying in Fleetwood Mac. I don't remember the exact question, but I distictly remember the attitude of her answer being antagonisitic. I don't remember her exact words but in one interview, maybe in our local paper, she said Lidnsey always threatens to quit the band. He does it all the time, like he was just blowing smoke. I felt she was almost daring him to leave. I know this kind of ungrateful attitude was displayed by others in the band after Lindsey reluctantly helped them put out that album. Why am I the only one who remembers this stuff?

[Johnny Stew]

I'm loving the pants off of the fact that the folks who claim to have little regard for Stevie, or her stories, etc., are the ones who have turned yet another thread into a conversation about her.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm loving the pants off of the fact that the folks who claim to have little regard for Stevie, or her stories, etc., are the ones who have turned yet another thread into a conversation about her.

It is because they cannot stand that La Nicks ever made it as far as she

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

And she wrote a song about that?

Yup. Taken straight from La Nicks' diary:

*~*Ooh, lily girl...how hard it is to hear such words
Such misery,
For you...I will fight to not hear it
To hear the grief on the other side of the mirror~*~
I cannot hand the phone to my love...
Knowing what I now know...
For it is in my blood...~*~
For it...for it is in my blood...~

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

Yup. Taken straight from La Nicks' diary:

*~*Ooh, lily girl...how hard it is to hear such words
Such misery,
For you...I will fight to not hear it
To hear the grief on the other side of the mirror~*~
I cannot hand the phone to my love...
Knowing what I now know...
For it is in my blood...~*~
For it...for it is in my blood...~

That is about handing LB the phone call informing him his father died?

Edit - it again did not post all that I wrote

Even if it is about that incident - Lux said she said she wrote songs about people and then I guess it was later determined La Nicks did not know them when the song was written. Thus, who cares if La Nicks wrote this about Mr. Buckingham because she obviously knew him and LB when she wrote the song or rather the diary entry

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

That is about handing LB the phone call informing him his father died?

But of course, silly.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm loving the pants off of the fact that the folks who claim to have little regard for Stevie, or her stories, etc., are the ones who have turned yet another thread into a conversation about her.

She's such an easy target that I can't help myself sometimes, darling.

It's all in jest, I don't find her that ridiculous.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

But of course, silly.

sorry - see my edit - I am having trouble posting - personally, I think it is the Feds