Oops...she's married again - Page 2

ontheEdgeof17 · #16 09-19-2004, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I don't know how we're going to have all the benefits and privileges associated with marriage without marriage. And I'm also thinking of the many, many other people who need to be accepted by society even more than I do. I'm not too keen on the idea of my wife (not my legal wife, of course) being in the ICU dying, and I don't get to see her because I'm not family.

Hillary

That's the problem for me. Ppl want to get married because of the benefits involved. That shouldn't be the case. I don't care about health care coverage and all that. I'm very independent, and if I want that stuff, I'm working my ass off to have it and not depending on my spouse for it.

As for the ICU bit, it's as easy as a living will/MPOA. If it is their wish to have you there and it is in the legal document, then it's a done deal.

strandinthewind · #17 09-19-2004, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

That's the problem for me. Ppl want to get married because of the benefits involved. That shouldn't be the case. I don't care about health care coverage and all that. I'm very independent, and if I want that stuff, I'm working my ass off to have it and not depending on my spouse for it.

As for the ICU bit, it's as easy as a living will/MPOA. If it is their wish to have you there and it is in the legal document, then it's a done deal.

Wel, that is somewhat true. A legal document cannot confer any federal benefits such as Social Security benefits that automatically go to a legal spouse. I know that does not sound like alot, but it is a significant amount of money, etc. AND - certain pension plans can perhaps now in Louisiana only give benefits to spouse to the exclusion of everyone else. Finally, for the rich, the surviving spouse pays no tax on any amount left to them. AND - if two guys with a joint checking account make $120,000, they both could possibly be required to pay up to 60 or 70% of any amount after $10,000 deposited each year because they are not married and the IRS allows up to $10,000 in donations a year, with the rest being subject to the gift tax.

So, the benefits thing is huge or at least has the potential to be huge.

I think the whole thing is just hate filled and unfair. AND - many of the churches are preaching from their pulpits that gay people are the cause of the failure of matrimony and that they are morally reprehensible.

AND - why the hell should the govt. automatically confer it on the Christian ideal of marriage and no one else's idea and then have the effrontery to suggest that all the abnormal people

pay thousands to get a document that they may or may not have to spend tens of thousands fighting a legal contest of. That sounds like the est. of religion to me, which is prohibited by the U.S. Const. I mean I know some hospitals that require a person with a medical power of attorney with visitation to go through a "procedure" to authenticate it prior to allowing it. Imagine if your loved one was dying and you had to go thtough that and missed their death because of some asshole's ridiculous notion of family.

It just sickens me.

Nixxxed · #18 09-19-2004, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

That's the problem for me. Ppl want to get married because of the benefits involved. That shouldn't be the case. I don't care about health care coverage and all that. I'm very independent, and if I want that stuff, I'm working my ass off to have it and not depending on my spouse for it.

As for the ICU bit, it's as easy as a living will/MPOA. If it is their wish to have you there and it is in the legal document, then it's a done deal.

It's not just the ICU visitation, it also has to do with treatment. If your non-legal "spouse" is hospitalized and unable to make his/her own medical decisions (coma, brain death, etc.), you have no say. I agree, living wills are a good idea, but I believe they're powerless in this area once contested -- look at the Terry Schiavo (sp?) case in Florida, and that's a hetero couple. I also know of several instances in Houston of partners being shut out of the hospital (literally) by disapproving family members despite the presence of living wills.

diamondsnake · #19 09-19-2004, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

That is painfully ironic. I can't get married or have any legal recognition for my relationships but she can go marry whomever she wants for whatever preposterous reason. I'm really tempted to go tear one of those asinine yellow bumper stickers that say "Marriage: One Man, One Woman" off someone's Jesus fish covered car. God, I hate all of this.

But, that's not going to stop me from taking advantage of New Orleans.

Hillary

Can I ask when that picture of Stevie and Christine was taken in your icon? I am so confused and it is driving me crazy!

GardenStateGirlie · #20 09-20-2004, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

She would prerecord her vote at a earlier time, and then ride an elephant in, while holding a donkey.

So true...

Funny how this marriage of hers coincides with the launch of her new fragrance

sparky · #21 09-20-2004, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

Funny how this marriage of hers coincides with the launch of her new fragrance

And what would that be, Eau De Skank ?

heyjupiter678 · #22 09-20-2004, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sparky

And what would that be, Eau De Skank ?

GateandGarden · #23 09-20-2004, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Can I ask when that picture of Stevie and Christine was taken in your icon? I am so confused and it is driving me crazy!

I really don't know. Sometime around Tango maybe? I got it from BlueWhiteFire. There's also one from what looks like it must be the same photoshoot here on Nicksfix. Anybody know when those pictures were taken?

Hillary

Jason T. · #24 09-20-2004, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I really don't know. Sometime around Tango maybe?...Anybody know when those pictures were taken?

I know they're from the Tango era, but I'm too ignorant to get more specific than that. Sorry. They're awesome pictures though!!!

DeadliestPoison · #25 09-20-2004, 09:42 PM

I'm pretty sure they're Tango, too. I scored the Tango tourbook a few weeks ago, and there are two or three pictures in there that are from the same series. They were taken by Aaron Rapaport.

Janet · #26 09-21-2004, 02:07 AM

*yawn*

hopefully she gets pregnant, get's fat, moves to switzerland and disappears.

one can hope.

sparky · #27 09-21-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Janet

*yawn*

hopefully she gets pregnant, get's fat, moves to switzerland and disappears.

one can hope.

Oh, I think you can bet the rent on the fat and pregnant part. I wouldn't hold my breath on the moving and disappearing thing, unfortunately.

GoldDustGypsy03 · #28 09-21-2004, 11:47 PM

Not another publicity stunt!!

Did the girl get a clue that she's not going to make it in the business finally?

Nixxxed · #29 09-22-2004, 12:55 PM

Several outlets are now reporting that the wedding was FAKE.

Story still developing...

Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease let this be the end of her career, or at least the end of people even bothering to cover her in the media (which I guess is the same thing...)

By the way, the perfume was not the only thing Slutney is trying to sell this week -- her new video debuted on VH1, advertising upcoming Greatest Hits (ha!) album.

GoldDustGypsy03 · #30 09-23-2004, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed

Several outlets are now reporting that the wedding was FAKE.

Story still developing...

Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease let this be the end of her career, or at least the end of people even bothering to cover her in the media (which I guess is the same thing...)

By the way, the perfume was not the only thing Slutney is trying to sell this week -- her new video debuted on VH1, advertising upcoming Greatest Hits (ha!) album.

Wouldn't doubt it being fake, she needs all the publicity that she can get to survive in this business; sorry but trying to be Madonna isn't going to work.