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Old 04-18-2026, 07:41 AM
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When the Buck/Vie tour was first announced and John and Mick weren’t included, my first thought was they wouldn’t be participating due to financial reasons. I don’t know how much money that tour made but 1) they were playing small venues 2) tickets didn’t cost as much as a FM ticket would and 3) dividing the money 4 ways, with John and Mick getting substantially less than Lindsey and Christine, well I always figured finances were the reason John and Mick weren’t allowed to participate. I know they, especially Mick, love to perform but at that point in their life, maybe they didn’t feel it was worth it to travel by bus and disrupt their life for 6 months or whatever and have little money to show for it. I wouldn’t blame them.
I figured it was about the money, too. They lost money with the Time band tours, so I assumed they didn’t want to go there again.
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Megalomaniac is a real thing. And a lot of people feed into it. As we have seen throughout history, being worshipped and adored no matter how awful one is, will somehow bring on the followers. And, rabid ones at that!
Not only bring on followers. Haters too. But I agree with Oscar about it. Those who hatefully rant about someone (even with a valid point), ironically are actually doing them a favor. They keep them relevant. If no one talked about someone, they would soon disappear from the map.

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Per Taku and Finn (and implied by Campbell later), the prerecords were a point of contention. The LBCM tour leaned heavily on the prerecords. I’d love to believe John would have been on board for Christine, but I don’t think he’d be up for being even more diminished than what he’d already become within Fleetwood Mac. I could very easily be wrong.

Also, I could see why Mick would have been kept off the tour, but I don’t see where John would have been the x-factor as far as management goes. Fans like us would have loved it, but I don’t see where his presence could have possibly hurt a Fleetwood Mac tour or muddied the brand. Mick? Yeah, he’s easily the visual. Most people couldn’t spot John in a police lineup.
Could you please elaborate on this point?
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When the Buck/Vie tour was first announced and John and Mick weren’t included, my first thought was they wouldn’t be participating due to financial reasons. I don’t know how much money that tour made but 1) they were playing small venues 2) tickets didn’t cost as much as a FM ticket would and 3) dividing the money 4 ways, with John and Mick getting substantially less than Lindsey and Christine, well I always figured finances were the reason John and Mick weren’t allowed to participate. I know they, especially Mick, love to perform but at that point in their life, maybe they didn’t feel it was worth it to travel by bus and disrupt their life for 6 months or whatever and have little money to show for it. I wouldn’t blame them.
That's true that they wouldn't have made too much, but on the other hand the Time tour hardly raked in the big bucks and they traveled by bus at that point... although to be fair bekka made that all sound as if it was kind of a sh*t show lol. But if the point was to NOT make it seem like a fleetwood mac tour, Mick would definitely be hard to ignore, like Steve said. nobody ever notices John anyway, and i think he would have enjoyed the different dynamic with just the 4 of them... but maybe it was better for him to kind of rest up before the bigger 2018 tour anyway.

Just hearing that they *wanted* to go along and were told they couldn't is annoying to me. Fans who are mainly into stevie wouldn't have gone to those shows anyway, but for fans like some of us (who kind of prefer the other four lol) it would have been terrific.

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Could you please elaborate on this point?
Just comments they went out of their way to say. Taku and Neil were in 2018 (and I can’t find those now that search engines completely suck).

Mike and Steve Ferrone made a point of trashing playing along to click tracks when I saw them. (And, Shannon, the opener, closed her set with GDW, with Mike playing guitar, and then the makeup girl singing “I Need To Know”, so it wasn’t especially hard to read between the lines.)
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I figured it was about the money, too. They lost money with the Time band tours, so I assumed they didn’t want to go there again.
The Wallflowers bailed on that tour too. They were supposed to be the opening act but only did a few shows and bailed on the tour.
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The Wallflowers bailed on that tour too. They were supposed to be the opening act but only did a few shows and bailed on the tour.
Colbie Caillat or Natalie Maines would have been better choices anyway.
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