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Old 07-18-2025, 07:35 PM
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The guy that bought drugs in Lindsey's driveway.
I thought the story was that Lindsey let the drug dealer stay in a camper in his driveway so Mick would have easier access to drugs. We in the rehab biz would call that “enabling.” Beyond enabling, actually. I’ve always thought that story reflected more poorly on Lindsey than Mick. I’m very glad Mick and Lindsey are in a much better place in their lives now than they were 40 years ago.
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Old 07-18-2025, 07:46 PM
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For Lindsey and a backup band to learn the Buckingham Nicks songs would take months and months of rehearsing — and programming. It’s a huge undertaking for the elderly, and everybody in the “family” is old now.

I was just listening to Stevie’s 24 Karat concert CD and was kind of shocked at how much dexterity that band of hers has lost. They play at a retirement community pace.

And, really, when you listen to Stevie, Lindsey, and Mick play onstage nowadays, do you want to hear them try to sing and play “Without a Leg to Stand On,” “Crystal,” “Long Distance Winner,” “Don’t Let Me Down Again,” and “Frozen Love”?

One possibility we hadn’t thought of in relation to all this press and buzz, is it possible that the two ex-lovers have signed a suicide pact?
HAHA I actually really agree with you. That’s why I really think the only way they could pull this off well is to do it in some kind of unplugged, scaled back performance. It would require a TON of effort to put it together. They have largely been able to pull the Fleetwood Mac tours out of their a$$es since 2009 without really needing to learn anything new.

Do I really want to see some arena show with their usual arsenal cranking through Frozen Love? Nope.

Stevie’s band is so freaking stale. She’s auto-piloted that show out the wazoo. I hope the paycheck is good because they all look like they could order takeout and play a round of poker while playing that set. I still say those club shows she did with the Foo Fighters were the most interesting live thing she’s done since the Enchanted tour.

I gotta hand it to folks like Dr. John or Dylan that get to a point where they know they need some fresh air and they basically hire an entire brand new band for the next project etc.
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Old 07-18-2025, 08:57 PM
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Just an FYI, I think Wyman only played on one song “Live By The Sword.” I don’t get the Stones point sorry. I can try and reread it to make sense- I was just saying John would need to publish a statement telling he handpicked a bass player.
Except, the situation leading up to Charlie’s announcement wouldn’t be comparable. The Stones played on as they’d been doing with Charlie’s blessings on the assumption he’d be back. What you’re talking about would have worked in 2013, but not so much in 2025.

Fleetwood Mac had a scandalous, acrimonious episode that saw Lindsey fired and two new guys taking over. Then Christine died. So, to go from that to the SYW lineup minus John is a stretch, especially in the context of it being a farewell type scenario.

That was my point.

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Re, the Australia and New Zealand 2013 Tour - you don’t give any props to Lindsey for saying no to proceeding without John? It’s my understanding they didn’t know Christine was joining until January 2014. That’s per all the press and interviews I’ve read. Mick announced it then in January and Stevie said at the 2014 Grammys that Fm will go back on the road this year.
If Stevie was the one who said she wouldn’t do the 2013 Final Leg without John, would you honestly within your heart not give her props? Just sincerely curious.
Christine did an article with The Guardian dated 12 Dec 2013 where she said "If they were to ask me, I would probably be very delighted”. That was a month and a half after the tour was canceled.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...ine-mcvie-nuns

Considering she was at the hotel for the last show before the 2013 tour was canceled, it was pretty obvious her return was imminent. Mick even said “it’s the worst kept secret” when he made the announcement.

Regarding the whole Oceana situation, the doctors are the only ones who get the props.

Exploring all options, reviewing contracts, and seeing which obligations are covered by insurance in that moment wasn’t wrong. We don’t know what the conversations were. John might well have given his blessings once he knew he couldn’t go. I’m glad it didn’t come to that and I’m sure they’re all glad it didn’t come to that. It was never the first choice.

That Christine was returning and that John’s cancer was caught early enough to be treatable, they knew there was a future, so it was an easy call. Whether or not it was Lindsey or Stevie who made the call isn’t especially relevant to me.

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To me this is about The White Album rerelease.
That was my thought, too, until Rhino put up a Buckingham Nicks page.
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Old 07-19-2025, 08:24 AM
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And it just say Stay In Touch. But it's more than obvious.
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One possibility we hadn’t thought of in relation to all this press and buzz, is it possible that the two ex-lovers have signed a suicide pact?
Been there done that already, in 2003!

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Old 07-20-2025, 09:15 AM
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Do a show and record it, like was done for The Dance (which was actually compiled from the best performances over several nights. The same would be necessary for BN, and sadly, probably lots of overdubbing like The Dance as well but oh well.....) Do it in a small, intimate venue. Then put it out as one of those lightning-in-a-bottle, once-in-a-lifetime shows captured forever on film and leave that as the final memory of it.
i sort of agree. The album deluxe re-release (with the 'second' album demos and live shows+ single mixes) and then a one-off show that is filmed. I feel like there will be a documentary element too but maybe not.
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Old 07-20-2025, 09:35 AM
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I feel like there will be a documentary element too but maybe not.
I would be really interested in a documentary about the 1973 album and all events around them. Much more than a show.

But if they decide to go live, I really hope Stevie convinces Lindsey to get a different haircut.
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Old 07-20-2025, 10:17 AM
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Fleetwood Mac reunion = HELL NO. Not without Christine. I seriously doubt John would say yes, anyway.

Buckingham Nicks reunion = HELL YES. Remaster and reissue the album, with bonus tracks. And a tour.

My idea for a bonus disc for a Buckingham Nicks deluxe edition that I put together a few years ago:

Disc 1: Buckingham Nicks [1973]
1. Crying In The Night
2. Stephanie
3. Without A Leg To Stand On
4. Crystal
5. Long Distance Winner
6. Don't Let Me Down Again
7. Django
8. Races Are Run
9. Lola (My Love)
10. Frozen Love

Disc 2: Demos & Live
1. Lady [demo, 1971]
2. Amber [demo, 1971]
3. Rose Garden [demo, 1971]
4. Anybody There [demo, 1972]
5. Sorcerer [demo, 1972]
6. Nomad [demo, 1972]
7. That's Alright [demo, 1972]
8. Garbo [demo, 1972]
9. Without You [demo, 1972]
10. Cathouse Blues [demo, 1972]
11. Goldfish And The Ladybug [demo, 1972]
12. When We Love Again [demo, 1972]
13. See The World Go By [demo, 1972]
14. Going Home [demo, 1973]
15. Heartbreaker (Circles In Time) [Live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama 1/28/75]
16. You Won't Forget Me [Live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama 1/28/75]
17. Rhiannon [Live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama 1/28/75]
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Old 07-20-2025, 10:50 AM
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And a tour.
I don't see that coming, at least this year.

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Old 07-20-2025, 11:26 AM
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This board is 100x more entertaining than a tired, embarrassing, fragmented, inexplicable money-grab tour would be at this point. The idea of them half-heartedly shuffling onto the stage is exasperating and depressing. Another boxing match and pretend hug at the end? Siiiiigh. Very glad The Ledge is back up.
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Old 07-20-2025, 11:34 AM
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I say again, I don't want any kind of reunion, but I'm enjoying all opinions, theories, etc. posted here. It's been a while since The Ledge was such active.
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Fleetwood Mac reunion = HELL NO. Not without Christine. I seriously doubt John would say yes, anyway.

Buckingham Nicks reunion = HELL YES. Remaster and reissue the album, with bonus tracks. And a tour.

My idea for a bonus disc for a Buckingham Nicks deluxe edition that I put together a few years ago:

Disc 1: Buckingham Nicks [1973]
1. Crying In The Night
2. Stephanie
3. Without A Leg To Stand On
4. Crystal
5. Long Distance Winner
6. Don't Let Me Down Again
7. Django
8. Races Are Run
9. Lola (My Love)
10. Frozen Love

Disc 2: Demos & Live
1. Lady [demo, 1971]
2. Amber [demo, 1971]
3. Rose Garden [demo, 1971]
4. Anybody There [demo, 1972]
5. Sorcerer [demo, 1972]
6. Nomad [demo, 1972]
7. That's Alright [demo, 1972]
8. Garbo [demo, 1972]
9. Without You [demo, 1972]
10. Cathouse Blues [demo, 1972]
11. Goldfish And The Ladybug [demo, 1972]
12. When We Love Again [demo, 1972]
13. See The World Go By [demo, 1972]
14. Going Home [demo, 1973]
15. Heartbreaker (Circles In Time) [Live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama 1/28/75]
16. You Won't Forget Me [Live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama 1/28/75]
17. Rhiannon [Live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama 1/28/75]
Need the single version of “Crying In The Night”. Waddy’s two songs, which were recorded at the same time with the same people, would be kind of interesting to add, but I could see Lindsey being a hard no on that.
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Old 07-20-2025, 02:30 PM
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I don't see that coming, at least this year.

Such specific timing - we have exactly three weeks (and a day) between the Instagram posts and Stevie's tour starting (August 8th)
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I thought the story was that Lindsey let the drug dealer stay in a camper in his driveway so Mick would have easier access to drugs. We in the rehab biz would call that “enabling.” Beyond enabling, actually. I’ve always thought that story reflected more poorly on Lindsey than Mick. I’m very glad Mick and Lindsey are in a much better place in their lives now than they were 40 years ago.
the story was that LB put the RV in his driveway to keep Mick and whoever else was hanging around OUT of his house.

Not specifically for the dealer to stay in
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