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Old 07-18-2025, 02:16 PM
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When the Instagram posts came out, I thought it was purely a reference to the Buckingham Nicks album being reissued at long last, and that was it. But the amount of press this has gotten is shocking to me, and I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if their handlers said “look at how this news has taken off!” So now, as a result of the flurry of activity those two posts have set off, I really think Lindsey, Stevie, and Mick are going to do something more. And I think it’s totally because everyone is freaking out at even just the possibility they might reunite in some fashion.
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Old 07-18-2025, 02:28 PM
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When the Instagram posts came out, I thought it was purely a reference to the Buckingham Nicks album being reissued at long last, and that was it. But the amount of press this has gotten is shocking to me, and I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if their handlers said “look at how this news has taken off!” So now, as a result of the flurry of activity those two posts have set off, I really think Lindsey, Stevie, and Mick are going to do something more. And I think it’s totally because everyone is freaking out at even just the possibility they might reunite in some fashion.
I hope they play the Behind the Mask album, live in it's entirety! The crowd would throw stuff at them!!
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Old 07-18-2025, 02:40 PM
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I hope they play the Behind the Mask album, live in it's entirety! The crowd would throw stuff at them!!
Throw in the Time album and I am so there! With maybe a couple of Crowded House and Traffic songs for good measure!
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Old 07-18-2025, 02:44 PM
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Throw in the Time album and I am so there! With maybe a couple of Crowded House and Traffic songs for good measure!
Songs from the Big Chair and Blue Lamp!
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Old 07-18-2025, 02:55 PM
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If you all get really quiet and listen carefully you can hear Stand Back coming back to the set.
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Old 07-18-2025, 03:01 PM
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Thing is, the Stones have consistently toured since 2012 (only missing 2020 because of COVID and 2023, when they were recording a new album), they had been those four since 1993, and, as mentioned, they were working on new music and weren’t planning on ending the band. (The lone silver lining is they brought Bill Wyman back for a couple of final songs with the full lineup.)

That’s why the Oceana situation would have been different than now. They knew Christine was rejoining and that John would be back after his treatments were finished. There was a very bright future ahead for Fleetwood Mac.

Fleetwood Mac doesn’t have a future now. Ending the band without one of its namesakes who was on every album, would be sacrilegious. If Lindsey, Stevie, and Mick need to tour together, just call it Buckingham Nicks. They could have their full circle, wound healing reconciliation and still respect the McVies.
A crucifix fell from my wall when I read this. You really think Mick is concerned about being sacrilegious? The guy who fired the band's guitarist and producer that made him rich. The guy that fired his lead singer by fax machine. The guy that held on to a song he did not write just so a former lead singer could not put it on her solo album. The guy that meets fans at concerts with outrageous ticket prices and charges them $500 to meet him and get a photo next to his drums. The guy that refused to give Bob Welch proper royalties. The guy that smeared Lindsey Buckingham in the press. The guy that has lost house after house due to bankruptcy. The guy that bought drugs in Lindsey's driveway. The guy that dumped Stevie for her best friend and cheated on her one year into the marriage. The guy that sold his Rock n Roll Hall of Fame award along with his Rumours balls to the highest bidder.
Just want to make sure we are talking about the same guy here........ Yes for sure he would not call any hodge podge scrappy reunion Fleetwood Mac.
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Old 07-18-2025, 03:04 PM
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Songs from the Big Chair and Blue Lamp!
Ok Time and BTM made sense in this (hilarious!) sarcasm. But now, as Grandpa cried in Moonstruck, I'm confused!!!

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Old 07-18-2025, 03:11 PM
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A crucifix fell from my wall when I read this. You really think Mick is concerned about being sacrilegious? The guy who fired the band's guitarist and producer that made him rich. The guy that fired his lead singer by fax machine. The guy that held on to a song he did not write just so a former lead singer could not put it on her solo album. The guy that meets fans at concerts with outrageous ticket prices and charges them $500 to meet him and get a photo next to his drums. The guy that refused to give Bob Welch proper royalties. The guy that smeared Lindsey Buckingham in the press. The guy that has lost house after house due to bankruptcy. The guy that bought drugs in Lindsey's driveway. The guy that sold his Rock n Roll Hall of Fame award along with his Rumours balls to the highest bidder.
Just want to make sure we are talking about the same guy here........ Yes for sure he would not call any hodge podge scrappy reunion Fleetwood Mac.
The re-release seems to be a done deal at this point. I am not sure they can avoid doing press around it? Stevie has her solo commitments through the fall and I don't think anything will happen before that although her gift for the mentionitist will likely help stoke the fire. I could see the 3 of them doing something tour wise together, I can't see why Mick would lay that first easter egg if he wasn't part of something bigger? But if they were to tour, and its a big BUT, it wouldn't be as FM, it would be BN, Mick on drums, maybe they play Buckingham Nicks through cover to cover and then sprinkle "their" FM songs in at the end? Supporting band can be Waddy, Neal, Stevie's band and Lindsey and Waddy can fight over who gets to play "Landslide" with her. . Something tells me Waddy would concede nightly to avoid the eggs and tomatoes that would get thrown at him by the crowd
All speculation, but the album rerelease I feel is in the bag. FINALLY!!!
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Old 07-18-2025, 03:20 PM
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Thing is, the Stones have consistently toured since 2012 (only missing 2020 because of COVID and 2023, when they were recording a new album), they had been those four since 1993, and, as mentioned, they were working on new music and weren’t planning on ending the band. (The lone silver lining is they brought Bill Wyman back for a couple of final songs with the full lineup.)

That’s why the Oceana situation would have been different than now. They knew Christine was rejoining and that John would be back after his treatments were finished. There was a very bright future ahead for Fleetwood Mac.

Fleetwood Mac doesn’t have a future now. Ending the band without one of its namesakes who was on every album, would be sacrilegious. If Lindsey, Stevie, and Mick need to tour together, just call it Buckingham Nicks. They could have their full circle, wound healing reconciliation and still respect the McVies.
Just an FYI, I think Wyman only played on one song “Live By The Sword.” I don’t get the Stones point sorry. I can try and reread it to make sense- I was just saying John would need to publish a statement telling he handpicked a bass player.

Re, the Australia and New Zealand 2013 Tour - you don’t give any props to Lindsey for saying no to proceeding without John? It’s my understanding they didn’t know Christine was joining until January 2014. That’s per all the press and interviews I’ve read. Mick announced it then in January and Stevie said at the 2014 Grammys that Fm will go back on the road this year.
If Stevie was the one who said she wouldn’t do the 2013 Final Leg without John, would you honestly within your heart not give her props? Just sincerely curious.

John and Lindsey may’ve not been best friends but they engaged with each other during GYOW in the last few years and LB even tried to to the twist or waltz with him at MusiCares. The most I see Stevie do to him is point at her nose to him. Again, I think Stevie despises Lindsey and never wants to see him again. To me this is about The White Album rerelease.

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Old 07-18-2025, 05:04 PM
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I really don't think this is all that deep. Frozen Love was the song that turned Mick's ear to Lindsey's playing which of course led to his (and Stevie's) hiring. In that sense, it makes sense that it's being used as a promotional tool for a modern release. Also, the fact he's listening to a digital copy shows that someone has been working on the masters at some point whether it's recent or some time in the past.
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If they do anything live, I agree that it should be billed as a Buckingham Nicks event with guest Mick Fleetwood.
For Lindsey and a backup band to learn the Buckingham Nicks songs would take months and months of rehearsing — and programming. It’s a huge undertaking for the elderly, and everybody in the “family” is old now.

I was just listening to Stevie’s 24 Karat concert CD and was kind of shocked at how much dexterity that band of hers has lost. They play at a retirement community pace.

And, really, when you listen to Stevie, Lindsey, and Mick play onstage nowadays, do you want to hear them try to sing and play “Without a Leg to Stand On,” “Crystal,” “Long Distance Winner,” “Don’t Let Me Down Again,” and “Frozen Love”?

One possibility we hadn’t thought of in relation to all this press and buzz, is it possible that the two ex-lovers have signed a suicide pact?
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Old 07-18-2025, 05:07 PM
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Also, the fact he's listening to a digital copy shows that someone has been working on the masters at some point whether it's recent or some time in the past.
In the old Penguin Q&As, somebody — maybe Keith Olsen — said he had baked himself a new digital copy from the masters. This was back around 15 years ago.
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Old 07-18-2025, 05:14 PM
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If Mick is broke he's an even bigger a$$hole than anyone imagined....he just sold his music catalog for bunches of millions (sure, not as much as the writers, but a piece of the FM catalog will carry you for life....) So fork him.

As for BN doing any sort of show(s), big or small, with the likes of Waddy etc.... recall a number of years back now when people were pestering them about re-releasing the album and they each had very different ideas (I think this was that interview where they talked to S&L separately and the reporter was telling Lindsey what Stevie had answered to various questions and got Lindsey's opinion-- Rolling Stone maybe???) anyway Stevie had said like yeah we could release it and then tour with like Waddy Wachtel and stuff... and when the reporter told LB this his response was a classic Lindsey passive-aggressive thing of like trying to sound neutral but making it abundantly clear he thought it was a bad idea...He said something like "Oh? with Waddy Wachtel? Hmmm.....wow....."

So......that was then and this is now, and whether Lindsey is so far over the line in capitulating to Stevie and would give her whatever she wants remains to be seen.

I agree, no tour, no stadiums, I'm not even sure it should be more than one venue. Do a show and record it, like was done for The Dance (which was actually compiled from the best performances over several nights. The same would be necessary for BN, and sadly, probably lots of overdubbing like The Dance as well but oh well.....) Do it in a small, intimate venue. Then put it out as one of those lightning-in-a-bottle, once-in-a-lifetime shows captured forever on film and leave that as the final memory of it.
You know Stevie was talking out of her a** with that “idea” about a BN tour, right? I mean you’re a long term fan. That was her Orange Rally incoherent stream of consciousness. She talked about doing it in between legs of FM tours - Lindsey said essentially it would be economically suicidal. Stevie wasn’t sincere about doing a BN tour, she just indulged and excited interviewers. That 2013 FM tour Lindsey mentioned Stubner or Marty Hom told him if they lost some of the stage pieces they’d save thousands. Lindsey was being the economic one then.
Lindsey wasn’t opposed to a BN tour; it was doing enough to make it profitable. Irving was his manager which probably made him think economics then and Lindsey was happy because new FM music was coming out in the EP so he essentially wasn’t doing an oldies tour. All love to you!

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Ok Time and BTM made sense in this (hilarious!) sarcasm. But now, as Grandpa cried in Moonstruck, I'm confused!!!

A few jokes of sarcasm in here. Songs from the Big Chair.. (She often sings about Furniture) Also, Tears for Fears has nothing to do w/ FMac other than Lindsey and Roland had an interview together. Much like Crowded House has nothing to do w/ FM.

Well now they do, unfortunately.

Blue Lamp is a Stevie song they would never play. More sarcasm. And more furniture and accessories. Songs from the Blue Lamp!!!
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The guy who fired the band's guitarist and producer that made him rich.
The choice was that or tour without the singer who’s in the Hall of Fame as a solo artist. We weren’t getting the Rumours lineup regardless of how it played out and that wasn’t his fault and certainly not his choice.

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The guy that fired his lead singer by fax machine.
Eh, if someone in my band ever said they wished they were in R.E.O. Speedwagon instead, I’d probably do the same.

That said, it’s still nowhere near as bad as when Greg Allman fired Dickey Betts by fax while Dickey was being interviewed by a guitar magazine.

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The guy that held on to a song he did not write just so a former lead singer could not put it on her solo album.
That was out of his control. Warner owns the release rights for “Silver Springs”. Labels own the release rights for ten years after the last time a work is in-print, hence why “Silver Springs” was released as a b-side to “Don’t Stop” in 1988 as part of Warner’s Back-To-Back Hits series of 45s. (My friend signed away the release rights to his first few albums that he made when music was a glorified hobby when he signed to his first label, the last being considered one of his classics. Every ten years or so, those get special edition reissues.)

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The guy that meets fans at concerts with outrageous ticket prices and charges them $500 to meet him and get a photo next to his drums.
Who’s forcing them to pay that? Anyway, it’s a fairly common practice these days.

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The guy that refused to give Bob Welch proper royalties.
We don’t know the whole story, but, I never said the guy was a saint. That was BS. That being said, who did Bob contact almost immediately after the lawsuit settled? I seem to recall Bob saying Mick was the only human in the band on here when he was organizing a fund raiser for Wendy.

In fact, ever notice how they ALWAYS come back to Mick? Stevie, Bob, Billy, Rick, Bekka, Mason, Lindsey…Nobody ever stays mad.

And, when Christine decided she wanted to get back to the world, who did she call? Who did she fly with?

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The guy that smeared Lindsey Buckingham in the press.
And St. Lindsey didn’t smear him right back, right?

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The guy that has lost house after house due to bankruptcy.
Over 40 years ago.

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The guy that bought drugs in Lindsey's driveway.
Dude was an addict.

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The guy that dumped Stevie for her best friend and cheated on her one year into the marriage.
We’re not really going to shame Mick for cheating on Stevie as if she wasn’t getting around, are we? And, sure, it must have sucked for Sara, but I seem to recall she was married to Jim Recor when she got together with Mick. I also seem to recall her posing for Playboy after her divorce from Mick. NONE of these people live by proper Midwestern values, which kind of goes with the territory.

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The guy that sold his Rock n Roll Hall of Fame award along with his Rumours balls to the highest bidder.
Can’t take it with you. They were probably just gathering dust in storage. What about Christine and her estate selling off gold and platinum records?

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Maybe he would. That said, I said it would be sacrilegious. Never said it was beneath any of them.

However, I don’t think Mick would do a farewell scenario without John. I also take Stevie at her word about not being interested in doing Fleetwood Mac without Christine. Lindsey would, but it seems to be more to properly close the book on him and Stevie, plus I also don’t think he’d be interested in Fleetwood Mac without John for the same reason he refused to even consider Oceana without John. So, if the three of them do get back together, doing so as Buckingham Nicks makes the most sense.
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