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[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Interesting, every day I learn something new about my weird favorite band. Where did you read or hear that?

I actually think that was referring to Tango. She was never there, and barely on the album. The layered her harmonies on at the last minute. But yeah, she wielded control after Bella Donna.

(I just woke up, so maybe I'm not clear, yet. Lol)

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Interesting, every day I learn something new about my weird favorite band. Where did you read or hear that?

Shame on you!
You quote Mick's book all the time. Its in there. Stevie got out of rehab and came into the studio pissed off. She complained to everyone she should be on the album more and should be singing back up on Everywhere. Christine had a few glasses of wine in here confronted Stevie and said that she wanted Stevie on backup vocals BUT YOU WERE NOT HERE. Stevie then threatened to go to Rolling Stone magazine and tell them she had nothing to do with the album.
Mick alleges this is when Lindsey layered her vocals in.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Shame on you!
You quote Mick's book all the time. Its in there. Stevie got out of rehab and came into the studio pissed off. She complained to everyone she should be on the album more and should be singing back up on Everywhere. Christine had a few glasses of wine in here confronted Stevie and said that she wanted Stevie on backup vocals BUT YOU WERE NOT HERE. Stevie then threatened to go to Rolling Stone magazine and tell them she had nothing to do with the album.
Mick alleges this is when Lindsey layered her vocals in.

As Homer recall, the "but you weren't here" is from Tango, not Mirage. I'm not ashamed .

I don't remember a threat from Stevie about leaving the band in France or at any Mirage moment, in Mick's book. But I do remember a quote about Tusk:

The title refers to a jocular term of affection for the Male Member: old habits die hard in Fleetwood Mac. (When Stevie heard that we had decided to name the album Tusk, she threatened to quit the band in revulsion. But I chose to ignore her and nothing ever came of it.)

However it doesn't include a threat to go to the press and say she didn't like an album. I don't remember reading or hearing that, hence the question.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

As Homer recall, the "but you weren't here" is from Tango, not Mirage. I'm not ashamed .

I don't remember a threat from Stevie about leaving the band in France or at any Mirage moment, in Mick's book. But I do remember a quote about Tusk:

The title refers to a jocular term of affection for the Male Member: old habits die hard in Fleetwood Mac. (When Stevie heard that we had decided to name the album Tusk, she threatened to quit the band in revulsion. But I chose to ignore her and nothing ever came of it.)

However it doesn't include a threat to go to the press and say she didn't like an album. I don't remember reading or hearing that, hence the question.

Shame shame everyone knows your name.
The original poster pointed out Stevie threatened to go to the press about an album. As another poster pointed out it was about Tango. The shame on you was because you quote Mick's book every day yet forget this detail from the book. My post was giving you the specific threat from Stevie about going to the press. It was Rolling Stone magazine. Its in the book. Its not that she did not like an album. It was that she was not included and not on the album enough.
Read the book!

[sleepless child]

I believe it was in Micks book and referred to Tango. When she listened to the album, she was mad she was hardly on it. And said something like how would it feel to tell RS she was hardly on it. Chris reminded her she wasn't ever there and apologize and she could be added to some background vocals. Which she did.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by sleepless child

I believe it was in Micks book and referred to Tango. When she listened to the album, she was mad she was hardly on it. And said something like how would it feel to tell RS she was hardly on it. Chris reminded her she wasn't ever there and apologize and she could be added to some background vocals. Which she did.

THat's right. I just checked the book. My confusion was because at first I read about her threatening to say that she didn't like the (Mirage) album. This is what Mick wrote:

We did have one blowout with Stevie when she came to the studio to listen to the mixes before Tango in the Night was released. After the playback was finished, she began to storm around the studio like a tornado. "It's like I'm not evenon this record," she complained. "I can't hear myself at all." I knew Stevie pretty well, and could tell she was angry. Then she threatened us. "All right, maybe I wasn't able to get to the studio that much, but how is it going to look when the record comes out and I might have to tell Rolling Stone that I didn't work on it?"

Christine McVie's eyes narrowed. She'd had a couple of glasses of wine, and wasn't about to be trifled with. "OK, Stevie," she said, "what are you so upset about?" "I should be singing on 'Everywhere,'" Stevie said. "You should hear me singing harmony on that song."

"I wanted you to sing on it too," Chris said in measured tones that signaled she was furious, "but you weren't here. In fact, we've been working for a year and you were only with us for a couple of days. Now why don't you just say you're sorry and we'll work it out?"

Omits gracefully, Stevie capitulated in front of the whole band, and we gleefully layered her vocals into the mix of the album, which now sounded indeed more like Fleetwood Mac. Stevie had been right after all, and so had Christine.

I agree with Christine point. And if it was a threat it was absurd. By acknowledging her absence during the record sessions, she would have been the one who would have looked bad instead of the band.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

THat's right. I just checked the book. My confusion was because at first I read about her threatening to say that she didn't like the (Mirage) album. This is what Mick wrote:

We did have one blowout with Stevie when she came to the studio to listen to the mixes before Tango in the Night was released. After the playback was finished, she began to storm around the studio like a tornado. "It's like I'm not evenon this record," she complained. "I can't hear myself at all." I knew Stevie pretty well, and could tell she was angry. Then she threatened us. "All right, maybe I wasn't able to get to the studio that much, but how is it going to look when the record comes out and I might have to tell Rolling Stone that I didn't work on it?"

Christine McVie's eyes narrowed. She'd had a couple of glasses of wine, and wasn't about to be trifled with. "OK, Stevie," she said, "what are you so upset about?" "I should be singing on 'Everywhere,'" Stevie said. "You should hear me singing harmony on that song."

"I wanted you to sing on it too," Chris said in measured tones that signaled she was furious, "but you weren't here. In fact, we've been working for a year and you were only with us for a couple of days. Now why don't you just say you're sorry and we'll work it out?"

Omits gracefully, Stevie capitulated in front of the whole band, and we gleefully layered her vocals into the mix of the album, which now sounded indeed more like Fleetwood Mac. Stevie had been right after all, and so had Christine.

I agree with Christine point. And if it was a threat it was absurd. By acknowledging her absence during the record sessions, she would have been the one who would have looked bad instead of the band.

************ applause **********

For the record, Stevie did like Mirage. She is asked about Mirage during her MTV interviews in 1982 where she said she liked it much more than Tusk and that is was much more like Rumours.
And if Stevie is on Everywhere I can't hear her

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

And if Stevie is on Everywhere I can't hear her

That's what I immediately thought after reading it for the first time. And I still do. Did she actually complain about Everywhere? Or was it a Mick's confusion? Cause I never found where Stevie sings there. I supposed it was Little Lies, but there is no "early version" of LL in the Deluxe edition. I wonder why not.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

That's what I immediately thought after reading it for the first time. And I still do. Did she actually complain about Everywhere? Or was it a Mick's confusion? Cause I never found where Stevie sings there. I supposed it was Little Lies, but there is no "early version" of LL in the Deluxe edition. I wonder why not.

Only Lindsey knows for sure and unless he writes a tell all book we shall never know. Lindsey only said he used technology to make his voice sound like Stevie on a few places and it was him that did the last verse of When I See You Again to finish the song. We dont know what is real and what is not real and probably never will.
Mick could have been purposely misleading or in the dark like the rest of us.
Her layered in vocals are much more obvious on BTM. Besides her songs she only sings with the band on Skies The Limit and Back of My Mind. She is not even on the chorus of Save Me but layered in a few times at the end "Save Me." She does one moan on the title track. She does not sing chorus on When The Sun Goes Down but mysteriously appears for one "take good care."

[WalkAThinLine.]

Originally Posted by Villavic

That's what I immediately thought after reading it for the first time. And I still do. Did she actually complain about Everywhere? Or was it a Mick's confusion? Cause I never found where Stevie sings there. I supposed it was Little Lies, but there is no "early version" of LL in the Deluxe edition. I wonder why not.

Someone isolated the vocals for "Everywhere" in this video, which you can find below. I might hear Stevie at the 20 second mark of this video, particularly for the lyric "be with you everywhere". On the regular studio version, it's far more difficult to make out her voice with all of the instrumentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzzKQ9R0RTU

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine.

Someone isolated the vocals for "Everywhere" in this video, which you can find below. I might hear Stevie at the 20 second mark of this video, particularly for the lyric "be with you everywhere". On the regular studio version, it's far more difficult to make out her voice with all of the instrumentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzzKQ9R0RTU

Lindsey checked both boxes on that one.

Layer her vocals in on the track check
Make sure she is not heard check



Its like her vocals on Don't Stop and Hold Me

[WalkAThinLine.]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Lindsey checked both boxes on that one.

Layer her vocals in on the track check
Make sure she is not heard check



Its like her vocals on Don't Stop and Hold Me

I was under the impression that Stevie wasn't even present on "Hold Me".

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine.

I was under the impression that Stevie wasn't even present on "Hold Me".

It was a joke

[Villavic]

By the way, I remember reading a post a few weeks ago about Never Going Back Again, where it was mentioned that Stevie sings there. I remember live duet versions, but on the Rumours track? I just listened this song again, this time with earphones to hear clearly, and I can't find any moment where I hear her sing except perhaps the "mmmm" at 0:50 and repeated afterward. But that's just a harmony, and I'm still not sure if it's her or someone else, or 2 or 3 of them. I can’t be sure.

The ”personnel” segment in its Wikipedia page just mention “Lindsey Buckingham – acoustic guitar, vocals”. I don’t know how reliable it is.

[BLY]

Originally Posted by Villavic

By the way, I remember reading a post a few weeks ago about Never Going Back Again, where it was mentioned that Stevie sings there. I remember live duet versions, but on the Rumours track? I just listened this song again, this time with earphones to hear clearly, and I can't find any moment where I hear her sing except perhaps the "mmmm" at 0:50 and repeated afterward. But that's just a harmony, and I'm still not sure if it's her or someone else, or 2 or 3 of them. I can’t be sure.

The ”personnel” segment in its Wikipedia page just mention “Lindsey Buckingham – acoustic guitar, vocals”. I don’t know how reliable it is.

There is a great studio duet version of NGBA on one of the Rumours outtakes discs from the Rumours box set.