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Old 05-30-2025, 05:19 PM
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Do you know if ITBOMM was played at every BTM Tour show? It’s a great song and I commend them for opening their show with a new song. Stevie hasn’t opened a show with a new song since Fall From Grace in 2011(still newish and certainly not mostly known in the arenas she played)
Per David, the very early shows opened with SYLM.

I saw them on 06/26 and it was ITBOMM.
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Old 05-30-2025, 05:46 PM
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Here is late in the tour and Love is Dangerous is in the set. Save Me played too.
Toronto October 1990

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4OA7fk7RSk
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Old 05-30-2025, 08:45 PM
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Really interesting! It looks like towards the end of 1990 they played all the BTM songs they wanted to live.

That setlist.fm site is really messed up. It had some shows opening with The Chain!
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Old 05-31-2025, 06:52 AM
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Stevie dedicated Landslide to a woman that worked with her father at Greyhound that was in the audience. Do you remember who she dedicated Landslide to in Cincy?
I don’t remember, unfortunately. I was with 3 friends who were casual fans, so when I realized FM was getting ready to play Landslide, I was so excited I told them this was Stevie’s best song, and they laughed, I guess because they had never heard it before. I think they thought Dreams was her best song.
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Old 05-31-2025, 01:32 PM
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Really interesting! It looks like towards the end of 1990 they played all the BTM songs they wanted to live.

That setlist.fm site is really messed up. It had some shows opening with The Chain!
Looking back you can really see how Rick and Billy were treated as real and full members of the band. I think it surprised many of us when Billy wrote in his book that Stevie and the band decided to pay them equally. Rick got to perform 4 songs. 2 off the new album and 2 Mac classics. Billy got to perform 1 off the new album, 1 Mac Classic, one of his dad's songs, and sung Lindsey's parts on GYOW, World Turning, The Chain, and Don't Stop. They really were equal members of the band.
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I told them this was Stevie’s best song, and they laughed, I guess because they had never heard it before. I think they thought Dreams was her best song.
I remember one night in 1997, I went to a beach with friends, to drink some beers and listen music (yes, in Lima you could drink in some outdoor places in the 90s), and I was happy with my new car stereo, coaxial speakers and all that stuff that matters when you are young, and I played some Mac songs. My friends only knew the usual hits, Dreams, Don't Stop, etc., mentioning those were the best.

I then put The Dance version of Songbird, at full volume. They were speechless, stunned, barely said wow or something like that. The kind of wonderful moments I had thanks to Fleetwood Mac.
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Looking back you can really see how Rick and Billy were treated as real and full members of the band. I think it surprised many of us when Billy wrote in his book that Stevie and the band decided to pay them equally. Rick got to perform 4 songs. 2 off the new album and 2 Mac classics. Billy got to perform 1 off the new album, 1 Mac Classic, one of his dad's songs, and sung Lindsey's parts on GYOW, World Turning, The Chain, and Don't Stop. They really were equal members of the band.
That was great. It's too bad they only did 4 BTM songs and Stevie didn't do Affairs, Second Time, No Questions Asked, or Freedom.
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I remember one night in 1997, I went to a beach with friends, to drink some beers and listen music (yes, in Lima you could drink in some outdoor places in the 90s), and I was happy with my new car stereo, coaxial speakers and all that stuff that matters when you are young, and I played some Mac songs. My friends only knew the usual hits, Dreams, Don't Stop, etc., mentioning those were the best.

I then put The Dance version of Songbird, at full volume. They were speechless, stunned, barely said wow or something like that. The kind of wonderful moments I had thanks to Fleetwood Mac.
Songbird is a great song. However my favorite and the best version is the Rumours 20th anniversary special when they tried to recreate the magic and they put roses and champagne on her piano. Her singing alone without an audience is so powerful. It moved me so much that I was going to play it at my mother's funeral but the full song is nowhere available. They only show little bits of it. With life its sometimes those little morsels that are so good but we only get a taste. Songbird on her solo tour was fantastic too. Performed in small theaters.
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Do you know if ITBOMM was played at every BTM Tour show? It’s a great song and I commend them for opening their show with a new song. Stevie hasn’t opened a show with a new song since Fall From Grace in 2011(still newish and certainly not mostly known in the arenas she played)
The only part of the song I could bear was when Christine chimed in with the verse that starts "I remember your eyes burning bright.." and lifts the enterprise a little- it reminded me that amidst all the wreckage, this was still Fleetwood Mac in some form or other. The rest of the song is a bit ponderous, corporate and tedious. Vito has a Floydian moment at 2.20 which gave me a it of hope, but it soon faded. The least said about the video, the better.
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Vito has a Floydian moment at 2.20 which gave me a it of hope, but it soon faded. The least said about the video, the better.
Sorry but if you didn't mention the video, I didn't remember there was one.
Yes, well, it looks like it was made by a student who failed the Cinematography I exam. Ok it was 1990, visual effects are not like today so I can forgive him, but the director must be burned at the stake of the Holy Inquisition of Audiovisuals. Who would think of mixing scenes from the 1987 tour into a video for a 1990 song? That's fine for an fledgling, unknown band, but not for a legend like Fleetwood Mac. And don't tell me they didn't have the money to do something better.

Is that girl Amy Fleetwood? Maybe the entire budget went to her salary, because agreeing to participate in that... OMG.

By floydian you mean Pink Floyd?
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Sorry but if you didn't mention the video, I didn't remember there was one.
Yes, well, it looks like it was made by a student who failed the Cinematography I exam. Ok it was 1990, visual effects are not like today so I can forgive him, but the director must be burned at the stake of the Holy Inquisition of Audiovisuals. Who would think of mixing scenes from the 1987 tour into a video for a 1990 song? That's fine for an fledgling, unknown band, but not for a legend like Fleetwood Mac. And don't tell me they didn't have the money to do something better.

Is that girl Amy Fleetwood? Maybe the entire budget went to her salary, because agreeing to participate in that... OMG.

By floydian you mean Pink Floyd?
Hi Villavic, yes indeed, an admittedly dollar store Pink Floyd guitar hook that is soon betrayed by the blandness of the song. After listening to that interminable intro with Mick making various garbled spoken contributions ("what's it really like?" indeed) I just wanted to be released from the experience, but no luck...

The video truly is so bad that it can't be unseen. Other Ledgies have stated Amy Fleetwood is the young woman featured, although I'm not sure I've heard that from the mouths of a band member.

Sometimes I feel that I really ought to stop myself commenting on posts about BTM, but like some rubbernecker at a motorway accident on I plough, remorseless as an avenging angel. Apologies to those Ledgies who find enough elsewhere in this hot mess (title track excepted) of an album to feel it redeems itself. I don't want to stop your fun! Each to their own!
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The only part of the song I could bear was when Christine chimed in with the verse that starts "I remember your eyes burning bright.." and lifts the enterprise a little- it reminded me that amidst all the wreckage, this was still Fleetwood Mac in some form or other. The rest of the song is a bit ponderous, corporate and tedious. Vito has a Floydian moment at 2.20 which gave me a it of hope, but it soon faded. The least said about the video, the better.
Yes, the ‘I remember….’ bit is really good.
Overall this track is possibly the best of a bad bunch.
Stoopid intro though
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I like the intro and the song. I think its the best song on the album and I don't even think Billy is a good singer. I don't get the corporate label. Its the most unconventional Mac track on the album. Tango is pure corporate pop. Its programmed, commercial, synth corporate pop which is why it was so successful. In 1990 the music industry was changing and no one was into blusey pop rock. BTM was played with all real instruments which I give it credit for.
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I love Billy's voice. I've always thought he was a MUCH better singer than Lindsey.

Billy has a Christine voice, IMO. Warm and sweet.
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In the Back of My Mind and Hard Feelings are both great songs. I don't really see merit in the criticism levied against them. Billy did a nice job on Behind the Mask.
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