Behind The Mask Turns 35 Today (April 9)

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

This is why Skies The Limit is a rare song for the album. She is singing live with the rest of the band. The only song 4 singers authentically singing and harmonizing together. There should have been more of that.
Stevie's songs were so bad that she did not even care to promote them on the tour and chose her classic Mac stuff instead. Besides the lead single Save Me (which was dropped late in the tour) Chris never promoted anything from the album either. The album was almost used exclusively to allow the new members to have songs of their own to sing at a Mac concert (Stand on The Rock and In The Back of My Mind).

I agree, Stevie’s songs were awful, with the exception of Love is Dangerous, which was a co-write with Rick Vito. I suspect he wrote most of that song. And I totally agree about Skies the Limit, it always makes me feel good when I hear all four voices on a song.

As I recall, FM performed Save Me, Love is Dangerous, Stand on the Rock, and In the Back of My Mind live, and even dropped Save Me near the end of the tour. Frankly, I was surprised they didn’t perform Skies, as it was the second single. When It Comes to Love would have been catchy live., too.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I agree, Stevie’s songs were awful, with the exception of Love is Dangerous, which was a co-write with Rick Vito. I suspect he wrote most of that song. And I totally agree about Skies the Limit, it always makes me feel good when I hear all four voices on a song.

As I recall, FM performed Save Me, Love is Dangerous, Stand on the Rock, and In the Back of My Mind live, and even dropped Save Me near the end of the tour. Frankly, I was surprised they didn’t perform Skies, as it was the second single. When It Comes to Love would have been catchy live., too.

Disappointment would become their middle name.
It seriously was a disappointing year. Working so hard and releasing a new album with the new lineup. They started the tour in Australia because they had to cancel the Tango Australian leg because Stevie was sick. The band promised to come there first the next tour and they kept their promise. They did their quick tour of Australia, a few gigs in Japan and by the time the tour touched down in western Canada and Washington State, Save Me was already dropping out of the top 40 after only reaching 32? They just got to the states and the album was tanking. It must have really stung hard. Combine that with Chris's dad dying, Stevie threatening to sue Mick over his book, it was a bad year. Having said that, it was one of the best concerts I've seen in my life.

[UnwindedDreams]

Love Is Dangerous wasn’t performed at many shows. It was a treat to get it at one of those shows. For some reason, I thought Save Me was played at every show and In The Back of My Mind was dropped because they opened with Say You Love Me instead!

[Street_Dreamer]

Freedom would have been a great song for the band to perform live. Would have been nice if they had done it.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Love Is Dangerous wasn’t performed at many shows. It was a treat to get it at one of those shows. For some reason, I thought Save Me was played at every show and In The Back of My Mind was dropped because they opened with Say You Love Me instead!

I saw them I think the day after Thanksgiving in 1990 in Cincinnati, which was near the end of their tour, and they dropped Save Me for Say You Love Me, and played Love is Dangerous. They started with ITBOMM, which segued into the Chain. I was really disappointed they had dropped Save Me, but it’s nice to see videos on YouTube where they did perform it.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I saw them I think the day after Thanksgiving in 1990 in Cincinnati, which was near the end of their tour, and they dropped Save Me for Say You Love Me, and played Love is Dangerous. They started with ITBOMM, which segued into the Chain. I was really disappointed they had dropped Save Me, but it’s nice to see videos on YouTube where they did perform it.

I saw them 4 days before you in Pittsburgh. Save Me was dropped but the band put in Say You Love Me instead. I originally had mid July tickets but the tour was postponed about 2 weeks before the show. Stevie dedicated Landslide to a woman that worked with her father at Greyhound that was in the audience. Do you remember who she dedicated Landslide to in Cincy?
Attendance in Pittsburgh was not great. It was a good crowd but the entire upper arena balcony was empty. A recession was brewing, the Mac had a flop album, it was the holidays and no one really was interested in seeing them I guess. But I heard attendance was better in other cities.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I saw them I think the day after Thanksgiving in 1990 in Cincinnati, which was near the end of their tour, and they dropped Save Me for Say You Love Me, and played Love is Dangerous. They started with ITBOMM, which segued into the Chain. I was really disappointed they had dropped Save Me, but it’s nice to see videos on YouTube where they did perform it.

Ok thanks for letting me know. The setlist.fm website is really messed up because they say Save Me was played at every BTM Tour concert!!!

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Ok thanks for letting me know. The setlist.fm website is really messed up because they say Save Me was played at every BTM Tour concert!!!

I read setlist.fm is not a 100% reliable source, but I usually check it, too. In that webpage, the average Mirage tour setlist includes 4 Mirage songs, and the average Tusk tour setlist includes 6 Tusk songs. What is the right number of songs to include on a new album when you already have several albums out? There is no rule, that's right. But in the 70s and 80s when the tours were to support album sales, at least 4 or 5 songs were ok. And BTM belongs to that era.

Nowadays the concerts are the main product, not the albums, because the business model has changed, and for an old band is more difficult to sell records. Not surprise they turn to the well-known hits.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I read setlist.fm is not a 100% reliable source, but I usually check it, too. In that webpage, the average Mirage tour setlist includes 4 Mirage songs, and the average Tusk tour setlist includes 6 Tusk songs. What is the right number of songs to include on a new album when you already have several albums out? There is no rule, that's right. But in the 70s and 80s when the tours were to support album sales, at least 4 or 5 songs were ok. And BTM belongs to that era.

Nowadays the concerts are the main product, not the albums, because the business model has changed, and for an old band is more difficult to sell records. Not surprise they turn to the well-known hits.

Web archives of the 1990 tour are all messed up. Many of the U.S. dates were cancelled and made up later yet many sites don't show that. There were variations in the set list too. Very early in the tour the band opened with Say You Love Me like they did on the 1987 tour. That was quickly scrapped and Say You Love Me was dropped completely from the set only to reappear mid-set in the "Farewell" part of the tour post cancellation. But it only appeared off and on variating Save Me and Say You Love Me during the last month or so.

[Villavic]

I wonder if the 1995 tour included BTM songs. Billy played in that tour so they could have done it. I just checked one 1995 show where they played with Reo S. and Pat Benatar. If the setlist is accurate, it's weird they included Lennon's Imagine and no Billy BTM song.

The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Dreams
Oh Well
All Along the Watchtower
The Bigger the Love
Blow by Blow
We Just Disagree
Gold Dust Woman
Only You Know and I Know
World Turning
Dear Mr. Fantasy
Say You Love Me
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Tear It Up
Imagine

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I wonder if the 1995 tour included BTM songs. Billy played in that tour so they could have done it. I just checked one 1995 show where they played with Reo S. and Pat Benatar. If the setlist is accurate, it's weird they included Lennon's Imagine and no Billy BTM song.

The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Dreams
Oh Well
All Along the Watchtower
The Bigger the Love
Blow by Blow
We Just Disagree
Gold Dust Woman
Only You Know and I Know
World Turning
Dear Mr. Fantasy
Say You Love Me
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Tear It Up
Imagine

That’s one seriously messed up setlist!

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Love Is Dangerous wasn’t performed at many shows. It was a treat to get it at one of those shows. For some reason, I thought Save Me was played at every show and In The Back of My Mind was dropped because they opened with Say You Love Me instead!

You have that in reverse. In The Back Of My Mind became the mainstay opener when the tour got going. In Las Vegas and a few other early cities Say You Love Me was the opener. Las Vegas is on Youtube. Love Is Dangerous was played at every show I have heard and the one I attended. When the band regrouped and made up the last shows Chris and Stevie already announced they were leaving the touring band. I think Chris felt some nostalgia to put Say You Love Me in the mix again. But Save Me was not played at all the shows during the make up dates. As I pointed out in an earlier post, it almost seemed the BTM tour was just giving Rick and Billy a chance to sing and perform their original songs. Love Is Dangerous is mostly Rick's song and the nights Save Me was dropped only Rick and Billy were performing songs from the new album. Stevie and Chris relied on classics which tells you everything you know about their disappointment in the album sales.

[UnwindedDreams]

Interesting, thank you. Love Is Dangerous wasn’t played at this show at The Meadowlands:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuPh...9kIG1hYyAxOTkw

It’s a great tune.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Interesting, thank you. Love Is Dangerous wasn’t played at this show at The Meadowlands:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuPh...9kIG1hYyAxOTkw

It’s a great tune.

You are right. It was not played everywhere. I thought maybe it was dropped for Another Woman or Stopp Messin Around but Rick played all 3 plus Stand On The Rock when I saw them in November.
This reminds me of when I read Mick's book in 1990. I had just saw them in 1990 and saw them in 1987. He wrote in his book that Stevie no longer allows them to play Rhiannon. I was like what? I saw it performed both in 1987 and 1990. But apparently it was only performed early tour in 1987. I also saw Gypsy in 1990 which was another rarity. In any event this was the setlist I saw and recall every song. Notice Love Is Dangerous came right after Isn't It Midnight. That arena was rockin!

In the Back of My Mind
The Chain
Dreams
Isn't It Midnight
Love Is Dangerous
Oh Well
Rhiannon
Stop Messin' Round
Say You Love Me
Gold Dust Woman
I Loved Another Woman
Landslide
World Turning
Everywhere
Stand on the Rock
Little Lies
Stand Back
(Stevie Nicks song)
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way
Encore:
Tear It Up
(Johnny Burnette and the Rock ’n’ Roll Trio cover)
Don't Stop
Songbird

[UnwindedDreams]

Do you know if ITBOMM was played at every BTM Tour show? It’s a great song and I commend them for opening their show with a new song. Stevie hasn’t opened a show with a new song since Fall From Grace in 2011(still newish and certainly not mostly known in the arenas she played)